Guest guest Posted May 25, 2003 Report Share Posted May 25, 2003 Jaya JagannathDear Sai, Here is my try: +--------------+|Su Mo | |Ju Ve | ||Ma | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ra | |As || | | || | Father | || | | || | Saptamsa | ||-----------| |-----------||MeR | D-7 |Ke Gk || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |HL Md |GL |SaR || |AL | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ Here the first child can be indiacated by 9th lord Jupiter placed with Venus in Taurus. This indicate a female birth. The nature of the child shall be predominantly Jupiterian and also Venusian. This means that the child shall be very generous, broadminded and knowledgeable. She shall be full of compassion and love for others. She shall also be good in at least one arts form. +--------------+|As Ma | |Su HL |Ju Sa || | |GL |AL || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ke | |Ve || | | || | | || | Mother | || | Saptamsa | ||-----------| |-----------|| | D-7 |Ra Gk || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Me Md |Mo | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ Here the first child is either shown by Mars or Mercury. Mars is stronger as it is aspected by the sign lord and Jupiter from Gemini. Mars is placed in Pisces can indicate a male birth. The child shall be predominantly a matian guy with the martian fire under the control of Jupiter's benevolence. This shows that person shall be very knowledgeable (Gurup-Mangala yoga), warm hearted and broad minded. There is discripancy. How accurate do you think the birth time can be? If I move the father's saptamsa lagna to the one sign back, the first child is indicated by Venus, who is placed with Jupiter showing male birth. The Jupiterian quality of the child matches in both the charts. Best Wishes Sarajit - "saikumar" <astrossk > <> Friday, May 23, 2003 10:45 PM [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] SJC-Hyd. Meeting on May 11, 2003 - D7 doubt - Narasimha,Visti - charts enclosed > Dear Sarajit,> > I am enclosing the charts.> > Let me know what you think.> > I am still a beginer, so I may still be wrong. The> point of focus is the first child.> > Regards,> Sai> > > --- Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:> > Jaya Jagannath> > Dear Sai,> > > > I would like to see such horoscopes. If this> > happens, then the father's horoscope shall prevail.> > > > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > > > - > > "saikumar" <astrossk >> > <>> > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 11:22 PM> > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] SJC-Hyd. Meeting on> > May 11, 2003 - D7 doubt - Narasimha,Visti> > > > > > > Dear Naarayana,> > > > > > Thanks for the eye-opener. I think my brain is> > going> > > dead. I was not reading properly I guess.> > > > > > Now another question. What is the result if the> > > husband's chart indicates a male child and the> > wife's> > > chart indicates a female child.> > > > > > How do we reckon the sex of the child then??> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Sai> > > --- naaraayana_iyer <narayan (AT) (DOT) org>> > wrote:> > > > Gam Ganapathaye Namah ||> > > > > > > > Dear Sai,> > > > > > > > These are two independent things. Firstly,> > Pisces> > > > and Cancer are Male > > > > signs and this is used in determination of sex> > of> > > > child. Secondly, > > > > both are Even Signs hence if lagna rises in both> > > > these signs the 5th > > > > house is reckoned in Anti-Zodiacal manner.> > > > > > > > Example: Cancer rises in Saptamsa. Since it is> > an> > > > Even Sign, 5th > > > > house is reckoned Anti-Zodiacally, which is> > Pisces.> > > > 5th Lord is > > > > Jupiter and lets say Jupiter is in Pisces.> > Pisces> > > > being Male sign, > > > > and especially if Jupiter is alone, Pisces will> > have> > > > a say in sex of > > > > the child which will be Male.> > > > > > > > Hope this helps.> > > > Regards> > > > Narayan> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , saikumar> > > > <astrossk> wrote:> > > > > Dear Visti,> > > > > > > > > > My question still remains unanswered.> > > > > > > > > > Pardon me for framing my question wrong.> > > > > > > > > > In the first example they considered Pisces as> > > > female> > > > > sign and hence the counting is reverse.> > > > > > > > > > In the next lesson from Narayana Iyer he says> > > > Pisces> > > > > is male sign and counting is zodiac.> > > > > > > > > > Which one of them is correct ??> > > > > > > > > > So, also is the case with Cancer, is it male> > or> > > > > female.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Sai> > > > > > > > > > --- Visti Larsen <vishnu@l...> wrote:> > > > > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > > > > Dear Sai,> > > > > > I realised i didn't answer your question. If> > the> > > > > > Lagna is odd or even then we count> > > > regular/reverse.> > > > > > Best wishes> > > > > > Visti> > > > > > ---> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center:> > http://.org> > > > > > Bhagavad Purana:> > http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > > > > > iTRANS 99 Font:> > > > http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > > > > > - > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 6:27 PM> > > > > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re:> > Achyuta> > > > > > Gurukul] Re:SJC-Hyd. Meeting on May 11, 2003> > -> > > > D7> > > > > > doubt - Narasimha,Visti> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krishna|> > > > > > Dear Sai,> > > > > > If there are planets joining then the sex> > of> > > > the> > > > > > planet joining will dominate. Moon is a> > female> > > > > > planet and in the given case 5th lord is> > joined> > > > it.> > > > > > Aspects cannot change the sex just as my> > eyes> > > > > > cannot change the color of the grass.> > > > > > Best wishes> > > > > > Visti> > > > > > ---> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center:> > http://.org> > > > > > Bhagavad Purana:> > > > http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > > > > > iTRANS 99 Font:> > > > http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > > > > > - > > > > > > saikumar > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 6:11 PM> > > > > > Subject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul]> > Re:SJC-Hyd.> > > > > > Meeting on May 11, 2003 - D7 doubt -> > > > Narasimha,Visti> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimha,Visti,> > > > > > > > > > > > In the explanation given below we have> > for> > > > > > Saptamsa> > > > > > "If we take Pi as D-7 lagna (TOB +11:40> > > > min),> > > > > > 5th> > > > > > counted in reverse falls in Sc. Its lord> > > > Mars is> > > > > > in Li> > > > > > with Moon aspected by Ve, Ra, Ket and> > Mer,> > > > > > thereby> > > > > > indicating a female child. "> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am looking at the lessons taught by> > > > Narayana> > > > > > Iyer in> > > > > > the Achyuta conference in 2003.> > > > > > According to him "Aries, Cancer, Leo,> > Libra,> > > > > > Saggitarius & Pisces are Male Signs.> > Taurus,> > > > > > Gemini,> > > > > > Virgo, Scorpio,Capricorn & Aquarius are> > > > Female> > > > > > Signs".> > > > > > > > > > > > Which is kind of confusing. Because> > based on> > > > the> > > > > > Lagna> > > > > > whether it is male or female in D7 chart> > the> > > > > > counting> > > > > > order changes and it changes the whole> > end> > > > > > result.> > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please clarify.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Sai> > > > > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. 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