Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] 20th discussion meeting proceedings, mumbai

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Dear Vistiji, Sarajitji and Jkda

Pranam,

 

THanks for the analysis, her grandmother from the maternal side died

on 11th Aug 2001, she died of cancer and the last 11 days was real

bad, her death was also bad. The native was very close to her Nan.

The last 4 months was also bad.

 

>From what u wrote , it suggested that her Nan might be troubling her,

but most feel that it is two specific cases black magic by the

African woman and haunting of spirits in the current house which was

originally lived by some unwanted elements.

 

 

Check for any deaths in the maternal side of the family (invisible

signs).

 

Visti, what are invisible signs? Pls expand. also, pls tell the

difference between preta and pisacha, I thought both meant spirits.

 

Looking forward for your letter.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sunil John

 

 

 

, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...>

wrote:

> |Hare Rama Krishna|

> Dear Sarajit and JK,

> The chart has Preta Badhak and hence the preta has come as a

pisacha to torment her and her family - Gulika joined Badhaka Mars,

and Rahu is also there.

> Whenever nodes are in Saturns signs, the native will not observe

the last rights of their relatives. Check for any deaths in the

maternal side of the family (invisible signs).

>

> Best wishes

> Visti

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> Monday, May 26, 2003 3:23 AM

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] 20th

discussion meeting proceedings, mumbai

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>

> Jaya Jagannath

> Dear Jkda,

>

> Here are my comments:

>

> +--------------+

> | \ | | / |

> | \ | HL | GL / |

> | \ | | / |

> | \ SaR | | Mo / |

> | \ | | / |

> | \ | | / |

> | \ | | / |

> |---------------+---------------+---------------|

> | | | |

> | Ke | | As Ma |

> | | | Ra Md |

> | | Rasi | Gk |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |---------------+---------------+---------------|

> | / | | \ |

> | / | | \ |

> | / | | \ |

> | / Su | | Ju \ |

> | / | | \ |

> | / Ve Me | | \ |

> | / AL | | \ |

> +---------------+---------------+---------------+

>

> +--------------+

> | \ | | / |

> | \ | Me SaR | / |

> | \ | | / |

> | Su \ Gk | | / As |

> | \ | | / |

> | Ra \ | | / |

> | \ | | / |

> |---------------+---------------+---------------|

> | | | |

> | Ma | | |

> | | | |

> | | Navamsa | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |---------------+---------------+---------------|

> | / | | \ |

> | / | Mo AL | \ |

> | / | | \ |

> | Md / Ju | | \ Ke |

> | / | | \ |

> | / HL Ve | | \ |

> | / GL | | \ |

> +---------------+---------------+---------------+

>

>

> -

> j.k. dasgupta

>

> Sunday, May 25, 2003 11:35 PM

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 20th discussion meeting

proceedings, mumbai

>

>

> Respected learned list members,

>

> Our 20th meeting was held on 18.05.03. The same was attended by,

>

> 1. Anand Sonde

> 2. Sunil John

> 3. Dr. ramchandani

> 4. Aparna Vedula

> 5. Vishwanatham

> 6. Dr. rajeev Karekar

> 7. Dasgupta

>

> We had discussion on horoscope of a female native who is

reportedly troubled by spirits and actually sees them. We tried to

look for the reason. The chart is attached herewith in jhl4.1 format.

We would request learned members to kindly comment on the same

> ===============================================

> Chart Details:

> 4th October 1971 at 1pm in Townsville, Queensland, Australia

> 146E48, 19S16

> TZ: 10.00 (east of GMT)

>

> 1. She left her birth place and went to Saudi for job in

April'1999 and came back to Australia in Sept'2000

> 2. She started seeing one muslim boy in August 1999 and was

engaged on the 21st October 1999 but the marriage did not ultimately

took place.

> 3. Miscarried a child in April 2000 and then gave birth to a

daughter in April 2001 in Australia

> 4. While in Saudi she had a lot of lucid dreaming with snakes.

> 5. Arround July'1999, while in Saudi..she started seeing

spirits. She tells that one woman there, who threatened her earlier

on account of relationship jealousy - applied black magic on her.

>

> This woman is reported to have very high passion which leads

her into various relations and subsequent troubles. But she is not

happy with her own passion and feels guilty about it. Is it due to

her placement of Ke in 7th - who acts like Mars creating lot of

passions and debilated AK Venus - who tries to show her the correct

way? Plz note that Ven is also aspected by Rahu- aflicting Ven as

well as Sun.

>

> [sP] Venus the karaka for sexual relationship is debilitated

and vargottama, showing that she shall have a sense of deprivation in

the matters of sex and as Venus is the AK, she would have a great

lesson to learn from it. The same Venus is aspcting the 2nd from the

Navamsa Lagna aspected by Rahu, however the aspect of Ketu can put

that in bounds.The cancellation of debilitation by Mercury can also

pull her out of the sexual passion generated by Venus.

>

> AK Ven is debilated and in the star of Mars. She left her birth

place in Ke-Ma-Me dasa. Ke is in her 7th house of foreign journey and

Ve is in Virgo. She came back as her Ke-Jup started. Jup is her DK in

badhaka sthana. Actually the main reason for her coming back was

disappointment created due to refusal of the boy to marry her.

Religion (karaka Jup) was the main reason for the muslim boy's

refusal. Her AL is in 12th from UL and this was her 1st serious

relationship with intention to marry. Hence rejection by her would be

spouse is clear from the chart.

>

> In rashi, 9th house has rahu aspect-shows problem for 1st child

birth. In her D7, lagna is Le - odd sign. counting in zodiac

direction, 5th from Le (Sg) has Mars...showing medical problems. her

miscarriage occured in Ke-Ra-Ve dasa. Ve is in Mars star. 3rd from Sg

is Aq. Lord Sa is in Cp a female rashi. So her 2nd child was a

daughter.

>

> Dreaming of snakes:

> She has 3 malefics in 2 kendras. It should be a sarpa dosha.

Can we confer that the dreaming of snakes were due to the sarpa

dosha? This happened in her Ke-Ra dasa.

>

> [sP] This is partial sarpa dosa. Snakes are related to the

nodes and dreaming is related to 9th house. Check their connection.

Rahu is aspecting the 9th house by Graha Drsti. This shall only be

limited to some particular dasa- antar periods.

>

> Black magic & Preta dosha:

> She becomes adept to black magic due to,

> 1. Ketu and Sat aspecting each other and have connection to 5th

house.

> 2. AL in dual rashi..conjunct with 6L Mer and Ket in 7th

behaving like mars (as Ketu is alone)

>

> Now her badhaka lord is Mars..who is also aspecting Sat by

rashi dristi and Ket by graha dristi. This constitutes Preta Badha or

the native is so haunted by spirits. Also combination of Ketu & Mars

causes Preta dosha as well as affliction by spirits.

>

> [sP] Yes, you have identified the problem well as you said,

Ketus aspect on the Lagna with Mars in it cause the Pisacha Badha and

more strongly as Mars happens to be the badhakesh and placed with

Rahu.

>

> It may be note here that 7th house is involved in the

dosha..and the dosha got kick started due to problems of 7th house

affairs.

>

> Remedy:

> Jup aspects Ketu and Rahu+mars all by rashi dristi and Sat by

graha dristi. So it was felt that Jup can give the solution. Jup is

in 9th from moon so gem will not work. Maha Mrityunjaya mantra was

suggested for the native to avert the effect of black magic and

haunting by spirits. Mrityunjaya mantra being the best remedy for

such doshas. This mantra must do the needfull also due to the reason

that her ketu dasa is ending and ven dasa would start shortly and

venus is the owner of mrityunjaya mantra. Sun indicates her ista as

Shiva. Jup also indicates Shiva in higher form. So Mrityunjaya mantra

will propiciate Jup & Sun also. Jup is aspecting Ketu. So by

propiciating Jup..ketu will get a head and become ganesha to drive

away the spirits.

>

> [sP] Mars is exalted in the Lagna formning Ruchaka yoga, which

has the power to destroy all evils. He is the badhakesh and hence

will not give good results so easily. Propitiate Mars and see the

result. Mars is the dispositor of Jup too, so if Mars is happy,

Jupiter shall also be happy...

>

> Is the remedy suggested is correct?

>

> Please guide us with further valuable comments on the same -

from gurus and other learned members.

>

> Regards

>

> dasgupta

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