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dear sunil,

 

was the last rights of her grand mother was performed? plz try to get the information from her.

 

in a chart 6 houses are visible and 6 houses are invisible. when lagna rises at

first house imagine the sky map. you will understand that the portion of the

zodiac from the cusp of 7th hse to cusp of Lagna is the visible portion and the

portion from the cusp of the lagna to the cusp of the 7th hse is the invisible

portion.

But the general rule is that the signs from Lagna to the 6th house (i.e 1st,

2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th & 6th) are in the invisible hemisphere (adrisya Rasi)

whereas the signs from the 7th hse to the 12th hse are visible (drisya Rasi).

10th house is then just above the head.

jk

 

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suniljohn_2002

 

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 6:45 PM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] 20th

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Dear Vistiji, Sarajitji and JkdaPranam,THanks for the analysis, her grandmother

from the maternal side died on 11th Aug 2001, she died of cancer and the last

11 days was real bad, her death was also bad. The native was very close to her

Nan. The last 4 months was also bad.From what u wrote , it suggested that her

Nan might be troubling her, but most feel that it is two specific cases black

magic by the African woman and haunting of spirits in the current house which

was originally lived by some unwanted elements.Check for any deaths in the

maternal side of the family (invisible signs).Visti, what are invisible signs?

Pls expand. also, pls tell the difference between preta and pisacha, I thought

both meant spirits.Looking forward for your letter.Best wishes,Sunil John--- In

, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> |Hare Rama

Krishna|> Dear Sarajit and JK,> The chart has Preta Badhak and hence the preta

has come as a pisacha to torment her and her family - Gulika joined Badhaka

Mars, and Rahu is also there. > Whenever nodes are in Saturns signs, the native

will not observe the last rights of their relatives. Check for any deaths in the

maternal side of the family (invisible signs).> > Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri

Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> - >

Sarajit Poddar > > Monday, May 26,

2003 3:23 AM> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] 20th

discussion meeting proceedings, mumbai> > > Jaya Jagannath> Dear Jkda,> >

Here are my comments:> > +--------------+>

| \ | | / |> | \ | HL

| GL / |> | \ | | / |> |

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| / |> | \ | | / |> |

\ | | / |>

|---------------+---------------+---------------|> | |

| |> | Ke | | As Ma |> |

| | Ra Md |> | | Rasi

| Gk |> | | | |> |

| | |> | |

| |> |---------------+---------------+---------------|> |

/ | | \ |> | / | |

\ |> | / | | \ |> |

/ Su | | Ju \ |> | / | |

\ |> | / Ve Me | | \ |> | /

AL | | \ |>

+---------------+---------------+---------------+> >

+--------------+> | \ |

| / |> | \ | Me SaR | / |> |

\ | | / |> | Su \ Gk |

| / As |> | \ | | / |> | Ra

\ | | / |> | \ |

| / |> |---------------+---------------+---------------|> |

| | |> | Ma | |

|> | | | |> |

| Navamsa | |> | | |

|> | | | |> |

| | |>

|---------------+---------------+---------------|> | / |

| \ |> | / | Mo AL | \ |> |

/ | | \ |> | Md / Ju |

| \ Ke |> | / | | \ |> |

/ HL Ve | | \ |> | / GL |

| \ |> +---------------+---------------+---------------+> > >

- > j.k. dasgupta > To:

> Sunday, May 25, 2003 11:35 PM>

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 20th discussion meeting proceedings, mumbai> >

> Respected learned list members,> > Our 20th meeting was held on

18.05.03. The same was attended by,> > 1. Anand Sonde> 2. Sunil John>

3. Dr. ramchandani> 4. Aparna Vedula> 5. Vishwanatham> 6. Dr.

rajeev Karekar> 7. Dasgupta> > We had discussion on horoscope of a

female native who is reportedly troubled by spirits and actually sees them. We

tried to look for the reason. The chart is attached herewith in jhl4.1 format.

We would request learned members to kindly comment on the same>

===============================================> Chart Details:> 4th

October 1971 at 1pm in Townsville, Queensland, Australia> 146E48, 19S16>

TZ: 10.00 (east of GMT)> > 1. She left her birth place and went to Saudi

for job in April'1999 and came back to Australia in Sept'2000 > 2. She

started seeing one muslim boy in August 1999 and was engaged on the 21st

October 1999 but the marriage did not ultimately took place.> 3. Miscarried

a child in April 2000 and then gave birth to a daughter in April 2001 in

Australia > 4. While in Saudi she had a lot of lucid dreaming with snakes.>

5. Arround July'1999, while in Saudi..she started seeing spirits. She tells

that one woman there, who threatened her earlier on account of relationship

jealousy - applied black magic on her.> > This woman is reported to

have very high passion which leads her into various relations and subsequent

troubles. But she is not happy with her own passion and feels guilty about it.

Is it due to her placement of Ke in 7th - who acts like Mars creating lot of

passions and debilated AK Venus - who tries to show her the correct way? Plz

note that Ven is also aspected by Rahu- aflicting Ven as well as Sun.> >

[sP] Venus the karaka for sexual relationship is debilitated and vargottama,

showing that she shall have a sense of deprivation in the matters of sex and as

Venus is the AK, she would have a great lesson to learn from it. The same Venus

is aspcting the 2nd from the Navamsa Lagna aspected by Rahu, however the aspect

of Ketu can put that in bounds.The cancellation of debilitation by Mercury can

also pull her out of the sexual passion generated by Venus.> > AK Ven is

debilated and in the star of Mars. She left her birth place in Ke-Ma-Me dasa.

Ke is in her 7th house of foreign journey and Ve is in Virgo. She came back as

her Ke-Jup started. Jup is her DK in badhaka sthana. Actually the main reason

for her coming back was disappointment created due to refusal of the boy to

marry her. Religion (karaka Jup) was the main reason for the muslim boy's

refusal. Her AL is in 12th from UL and this was her 1st serious relationship

with intention to marry. Hence rejection by her would be spouse is clear from

the chart.> > In rashi, 9th house has rahu aspect-shows problem for

1st child birth. In her D7, lagna is Le - odd sign. counting in zodiac

direction, 5th from Le (Sg) has Mars...showing medical problems. her

miscarriage occured in Ke-Ra-Ve dasa. Ve is in Mars star. 3rd from Sg is Aq.

Lord Sa is in Cp a female rashi. So her 2nd child was a daughter.> >

Dreaming of snakes:> She has 3 malefics in 2 kendras. It should be a sarpa

dosha. Can we confer that the dreaming of snakes were due to the sarpa dosha?

This happened in her Ke-Ra dasa.> > [sP] This is partial sarpa dosa.

Snakes are related to the nodes and dreaming is related to 9th house. Check

their connection. Rahu is aspecting the 9th house by Graha Drsti. This shall

only be limited to some particular dasa- antar periods.> > Black magic

& Preta dosha:> She becomes adept to black magic due to,> 1. Ketu and

Sat aspecting each other and have connection to 5th house.> 2. AL in dual

rashi..conjunct with 6L Mer and Ket in 7th behaving like mars (as Ketu is

alone)> > Now her badhaka lord is Mars..who is also aspecting Sat by

rashi dristi and Ket by graha dristi. This constitutes Preta Badha or the

native is so haunted by spirits. Also combination of Ketu & Mars causes Preta

dosha as well as affliction by spirits.> > [sP] Yes, you have

identified the problem well as you said, Ketus aspect on the Lagna with Mars in

it cause the Pisacha Badha and more strongly as Mars happens to be the badhakesh

and placed with Rahu.> > It may be note here that 7th house is involved

in the dosha..and the dosha got kick started due to problems of 7th house

affairs.> > Remedy:> Jup aspects Ketu and Rahu+mars all by rashi

dristi and Sat by graha dristi. So it was felt that Jup can give the solution.

Jup is in 9th from moon so gem will not work. Maha Mrityunjaya mantra was

suggested for the native to avert the effect of black magic and haunting by

spirits. Mrityunjaya mantra being the best remedy for such doshas. This mantra

must do the needfull also due to the reason that her ketu dasa is ending and

ven dasa would start shortly and venus is the owner of mrityunjaya mantra. Sun

indicates her ista as Shiva. Jup also indicates Shiva in higher form. So

Mrityunjaya mantra will propiciate Jup & Sun also. Jup is aspecting Ketu. So by

propiciating Jup..ketu will get a head and become ganesha to drive away the

spirits.> > [sP] Mars is exalted in the Lagna formning Ruchaka yoga,

which has the power to destroy all evils. He is the badhakesh and hence will

not give good results so easily. Propitiate Mars and see the result. Mars is

the dispositor of Jup too, so if Mars is happy, Jupiter shall also be happy...>

> Is the remedy suggested is correct?> > Please guide us with

further valuable comments on the same - from gurus and other learned members.>

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