Achyuta Gurukul] 20th discussion meeting proceedings---> Sanjay Ji,

[Guest guest]

Dear Rao,

 

It has been taught by Sanjayji that..generally planets in quadrant or traingle

to asc. will resiprocate to gems (as asc. is the physical body) and planets in

quadrant or traingle to moon will resiprocate to mantras (as moon is the mana).

 

best regards

 

jk

 

 

 

-

Rao Nemani

 

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 8:59 PM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: 20th discussion meeting proceedings---> Sanjay Ji,

Dear Sanjay Ji,Namaste,I have read DasGupta ji's chart analysis and your

comments with great interest and leaned many things. From the following

rememdy I was not able to understand one thing:Can you please tell me, what is

the rule/dictum for a gemstone is not a remedy for a native, for example in

this chart it was mentioned that "Jup is in 9th from moon so gem will not

work".================Remedy: Jup aspects Ketu and Rahu+mars all by rashi

dristi and Sat by graha dristi. So it was felt that Jup can give the solution.

Jup is in 9th from moon so gem will not work. Maha Mrityunjaya mantra was

suggested for the native to avert the effect of black magic and haunting by

spirits. Mrityunjaya mantra being the best remedy for such doshas. This mantra

must do the needfull also due to the reason that her ketu dasa is ending and

ven dasa would start shortly and venus is the owner of mrityunjaya mantra. Sun

indicates her ista as Shiva. Jup also indicates Shiva in higher form. So

Mrityunjaya mantra will propiciate Jup & Sun also. Jup is aspecting Ketu. So by

propiciating Jup..ketu will get a head and become ganesha to drive away the

spirits.=================Thanks for your time and help.RegardsRao--- In

, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...> wrote:> > >

|brihaspatim varenyam|> Dear JK and Mumbai group:> Some points to ponder are

listed under.> ~ om tat sat ~> Yours truly,> Sanjay Rath>

---------------------------> H-5, B.J.B Nagar,

Bhubaneswar 751014, India> +91-674-2436871 http://srath.com>

---------------------------> -----Original

Message-----> sentto-1045255-5082-1053876951-srath=vsnl.com@r...

[sentto-1045255-5082-1053876951-srath=vsnl.com@r...]On Behalf Of j.k.

dasgupta> Sunday, May 25, 2003 9:06 PM> >

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 20th discussion meeting proceedings, mumbai> > >

Respected learned list members,> > Our 20th meeting was held on 18.05.03. The

same was attended by,> > 1. Anand Sonde> 2. Sunil John> 3. Dr. ramchandani> 4.

Aparna Vedula> 5. Vishwanatham> 6. Dr. rajeev Karekar> 7. Dasgupta> [Rath:]

Some names seem to be missing. I hope all is fine. > > We had discussion on

horoscope of a female native who is reportedly troubled by spirits and actually

sees them. We tried to look for the reason. The chart is attached herewith in

jhl4.1 format. We would request learned members to kindly comment on the same>

===============================================> Chart Details:> 4th October

1971 at 1pm in Townsville, Queensland, Australia> 146E48, 19S16> TZ: 10.00

(east of GMT)> > 1. She left her birth place and went to Saudi for job in

April'1999 and came back to Australia in Sept'2000 > [Rath:] The planets that

take a person to a foreign land should be examined very carefully. Here they

are Ketu dasa Mars anterdasa in April 1999. Thus Ketu and Mars have to be

examined in the chart for the results of what will follow in the foreign land.

Note that both Ketu and Mars are the lords of the badhak house indicating

foreign travel. Further, Ketu is placed in a Kendra as mars associates/aspects

lagna causes Pisacha badhak. Thus, the trip to foreign land shall bring some

serious problem regarding Pisacha badhak due to Ketu and Mars should be the

inference.> > 2. She started seeing one muslim boy in August 1999 and was

engaged on the 21st October 1999 but the marriage did not ultimately took

place.> [Rath:] Why arn't the views of the group not given here? The dasa had

changed to Ketu dasa Rahu antardasa and both planets are involved in a sarpa

yoga without a break. Normally sarpa yoga makes a person very sexually inclined

and agressive in sexual activity. both these planets also aspect the darapada A7

indicating that she will think of marriage as physical contact and will suffer

consequently. The point is that Brihaspati is sitting very strong in the

darapada and is also aspecting the 5th house. So we can see a battle of sorts

between Jupiter and Rahu to have a relationship with her. Now see the raha

arudha of Jupiter - Jup (9) is in Lagna andd is protecting her reputation and

name while Jup (12) is in 7th house in Cancer. So Jupiters influence in her

personal life is going to be strong. Also he dominates darapada and put a fight

against Rahu. So, she cannot marry the man she meets in Ketu dasa Rahu

antardasa. More so as UL is Libra and its lord is debilitated and it is Jupiter

who gives neechabhanga for Venus, but this neechabhanga is not present naturally

from Guru and Mercury does neechabhanga i.e. Mercury intervenes on behalf of

Juptier. Speak to her and try to identify these people Jupiter & Mercury while

Rahu is identified as the boy she met in Ketu-Rahu period.> > 3. Miscarried a

child in April 2000 and then gave birth to a daughter in April 2001 in

Australia > [Rath:] This must be before April 20 2000 in Ketu-Rahu-Venus

period. Who was the prospective father? Mr.Rahu?? Tell her she has lost a

fantastic son (see Mars in Sg in D7). Next child is indicated by Moon in

Scorpio in D7 - daughter. Come Jupiter and she got out of the direct influence

of the sarpa yoga and other evils. > > 4. While in Saudi she had a lot of lucid

dreaming with snakes.> [Rath:] Did you notice the sarpa yoga? I find no mention

of this. Also there is no mention of Rahu aspecting the 9th lord Mercury which

is the cause of the dreams. Dreams of snakes is indicative of terrible enemies

working against her. Mercury is also the 6th lord. > 5. Arround July'1999,

while in Saudi..she started seeing spirits. She tells that one woman there, who

threatened her earlier on account of relationship jealousy - applied black magic

on her.> [Rath:] No I don't agree with this. The sixth lord is Mercury and it

does not have any contact with the badhak sign Scorpio nor with the badhakesh

Mars. Sixth lord conjoining debilitated Venus indicates that she had problems

and fight with a woman but there is no indication that that lady was able to do

any black magic that afflicted her. What she suffers from is prarabdha karma and

this is due to a past life karma that she carries.> > This woman is reported to

have very high passion which leads her into various relations and subsequent

troubles. But she is not happy with her own passion and feels guilty about it.

Is it due to her placement of Ke in 7th - who acts like Mars creating lot of

passions and debilated AK Venus - who tries to show her the correct way? Plz

note that Ven is also aspected by Rahu- aflicting Ven as well as Sun.> [Rath:]

True. Venus shows correct way? Like how?? Please spell out. Of course I missed

it - Venus is Atmakaraka, so she will learn life through terrible mistakes

related to sexual activity and 'love'. (Gauranga made this point earlier about

AK Venus). > > AK Ven is debilated and in the star of Mars. She left her birth

place in Ke-Ma-Me dasa. Ke is in her 7th house of foreign journey and Ve is in

Virgo. She came back as her Ke-Jup started. Jup is her DK in badhaka sthana.

Actually the main reason for her coming back was disappointment created due to

refusal of the boy to marry her. Religion (karaka Jup) was the main reason for

the muslim boy's refusal. Her AL is in 12th from UL and this was her 1st

serious relationship with intention to marry. Hence rejection by her would be

spouse is clear from the chart.> [Rath:] Excellent. See how a Jupiter placed in

badhak can cause differences related to religion. Brilliant point. So whose

child is the daughter?? GRAPES ARE SOUR - the boy says no and so she finds it

convenient to blame a woman for black magic. Rejection is something lovers find

hard to digest.> > In rashi, 9th house has rahu aspect-shows problem for 1st

child birth. In her D7, lagna is Le - odd sign. counting in zodiac direction,

5th from Le (Sg) has Mars...showing medical problems. her miscarriage occured

in Ke-Ra-Ve dasa. Ve is in Mars star. 3rd from Sg is Aq. Lord Sa is in Cp a

female rashi. So her 2nd child was a daughter.> [Rath:] So my guess was right -

Venus pratyantar as Venus is TENTH LORD in Saptamsa and aspects the fifth house.

Also see the dictum about Rasi chart Lagna lord in 5th house..first child....>

> Dreaming of snakes:> She has 3 malefics in 2 kendras. It should be a sarpa

dosha. Can we confer that the dreaming of snakes were due to the sarpa dosha?

This happened in her Ke-Ra dasa.> [Rath:] Sarpa yoga - correct JK > > Black

magic & Preta dosha:> She becomes adept to black magic due to,> 1. Ketu and Sat

aspecting each other and have connection to 5th house.> [Rath:] Ok first

pregnancy was miscarriage (ask her if this miscarriage was FORCED like say

abortion).> > 2. AL in dual rashi..conjunct with 6L Mer and Ket in 7th

behaving like mars (as Ketu is alone)> [Rath:] come off it. Loneliness and

depression following rejection in love can make people see things. Preta badhak

is far too serious a thing and if the affliction actually occurs, then there

will be tremendous violence and some terrible physical conditions that beyond

normal description. Split personality and other traits are noticed. i have

witness only one preta badhak till now and also saw the exorcism. Long time

back - durig Sat-Venus period when I was studying these things.> > Now her

badhaka lord is Mars..who is also aspecting Sat by rashi dristi and Ket by

graha dristi. This constitutes Preta Badha or the native is so haunted by

spirits. Also combination of Ketu & Mars causes Preta dosha as well as

affliction by spirits.> > It may be note here that 7th house is involved in

the dosha..and the dosha got kick started due to problems of 7th house

affairs.> [Rath:] Agreed about this that the 7th house is the cause of the

sarpa entangling her in a terrible mess. During Ketu-Jup she might have

contemplated suicide as well. But then its over now.> > Remedy:> Jup aspects

Ketu and Rahu+mars all by rashi dristi and Sat by graha dristi. So it was felt

that Jup can give the solution. Jup is in 9th from moon so gem will not work.

Maha Mrityunjaya mantra was suggested for the native to avert the effect of

black magic and haunting by spirits. Mrityunjaya mantra being the best remedy

for such doshas. This mantra must do the needfull also due to the reason that

her ketu dasa is ending and ven dasa would start shortly and venus is the owner

of mrityunjaya mantra. Sun indicates her ista as Shiva. Jup also indicates Shiva

in higher form. So Mrityunjaya mantra will propiciate Jup & Sun also. Jup is

aspecting Ketu. So by propiciating Jup..ketu will get a head and become ganesha

to drive away the spirits.> [Rath:] PERFECT JK da..all the hard work you have

done on remedial measures is paying off now. > > Is the remedy suggested is

correct?> > Please guide us with further valuable comments on the same - from

gurus and other learned members.> > Regards> > dasgupta> [Rath:] Very very good

and challenging case study. I have seen that sometimes the groups gets carried

away in a particular thread. This is due to the planetary positions for the day

when the meeting was being held. For example when this chart was being

discussed, the Moon was in exact 180 degrees aspect with Saturn!!!..so i don't

blame anyone. The graha are powerful...> > Sit back sometimes and think about

the other alternatives with a silent prayer to Shiva.> Best regards> Sanjay[Om

Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo :

-To :

Your use of is subject

to the