Appointment of new Gurus and Administra...

[Guest guest]

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sanjay,

I would suggest that if you are really serious about developing an academic

model and using such titles, and I believe you are, then we need to develop a

very rigorous program of study and demand rigorous orignal research from those

who carry such titles. Otherwise SJC becomes little more than amusment park and

a source of ridicule.

When I became your sishya, you said to me that one day this organization would

become an institution/university of great learning and indeed the seed is there

for that to happen.

We should develop a program that embraces all that you teach, including vedic

culture, vedic philosophy, religion, rituals, politics, music, poetry,

jyotisha, ayurveda, sanantan dharma, etc, etc. And again I emphasize learning

goals whether that be degrees, diplomas or certificates. Otherwise, it remains

that wild steed running in many different directions... out of control with 90%

of the students lacking solid guidance... only because they require more

structure. Forgive my metaphor and I only use them to get my point across. They

are not intended to be literals.

You have given to all of us with unmatched selfless generosity and you will

always do that. It is you nature, your Jupiter. In this sense you are an

example for each of us and it is doubtful that we can ever live by your

example. Nonetheless, all seeds sprout in time. It is a law of the universe.

My hunch is that the day is soon to arrive where we can organize in that

fashion. Your teaching has set very high standards in jyotish and also in vedic

knowledge. And again I say, if you are going to introduce the title of

professor, please demand and insist that those who hold the title are held to

the standard. This can not be taken lightly otherwise we make light of

ourselves and make astrology a show of comedians lacking meaningful and

intelligent intention.

If we maintain a high standard in philosophy, spirituality, jyotish and

ayurveda, then we will attract the best in the world and SJC can become a

recognized institution that upholds the mission of the Rishis. The 'best' here

means those with sincere intention.

I say all this in the context of the orignal vision that you shared with me some

4 years ago. This in my view, would be the highest expression of your Jupiter,

your genius. Yes, indeed, in the present system of learning, a human being is

born a genius but dies an ignorant fool, not even understanding the cause of

his birth or his suffering. It is beaten out of him through years of brain

washing. You put it very well.

Some fortunate ones, out of their own good intelligence, come to their own

conclusions but only after they have differentiated themselves from that which

is considered to be standard and normal. This has to be changed and this is how

I read the spark of your inspiration. The lotus seed of that inherent genius

needs to be nurtured and watered so that it can blossom and bloom. What soul

wouldn't want that?

It would be your great service to humanity to do such work.

Warm Regards,

Brendan

Dear Brendan

Thanks for the encouraging words. 'Lucky are those who can dream dreams and are

prepared to pay the price to achieve them'. As I entered this Jupiter

pratyantara in Mercury-Venus, the impulse was too strong to hold back. With a

Jupiter sitting in Simhasana-amsa or maybe higher (?!) in Simhasana yoga (10th

lord in Lagna), it was perhaps natural (after thought) that Guru wanted to

redefine the nature of the simhasana and titles that go with it. Perhaps giving

a meaning to the words which would be more comprehensible for the world around.

I wonder if such a Guru in dharma-karmadhipati yoga would have made a mistake .

I also wonder if such a Guru in kalpadruma yoga is going to give up easily.

You are very right in suggesting that education the world over, has followed the

path of the old public school system and this is only good for preparing skilled

labour (automatons) to replace worn out ones in society. It fails to create a

genius and actually believes that a genius is born and nothing can be done

about him!! A genius is regarded as a freak of nature!!! Perhaps this is true

but then such a genius mind as that of man needs a proper place in education

and that is what Dr.Murli Manohar Joshi has done, or rather is doing. This

great Cabinet Minister for education, science and human resources has

introduced Jyotish in universities. How would a teacher of Jyotish be addressed

in a college? As Guruji or Professor??

[Guest guest]

Dear List members,

 

Just a gentle reminder, that despite the necessary polemics on the

tittle of the 'professor', the only tittle so far used officially by

SJC is that of "guru". The word 'professor' was used within

parenthesis by Sanjayji, in order to explain the term guru. This is

because some of our members in Europe had specifically made this

request, as they faced trouble from the officials while conducting

SJC activities. So the term professor was used in brackets to explain

the term guru solely for the benefit of our internatioal members. It

is NOT a tittle that is being used by SJC. Of course, the question

remains, whether professor is an adequate translation of guru? For

Guru transcends far beyond than what Professor implies, and many feel

that professor is a derogatory translation of the term guru. But I

believe we need to cross the bridge only when SJC reaches the level

of a research instituion or a university...ad even then perhaps the

tittle guru will be preferred over that of professor. The tittles

professor and guru belong to two separate cosmologies and are not

interchangeable. It will eventually depend on what is the path that

we are pursuing and what SJC's ultimate goals and aims are.

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani

[Guest guest]

Dear Sanjay Ji, Sarabani Ji, Guru's and Members,

 

Sarabani Ji, I agree with you the way you have

explained the Guru (Professor) title, for the SJC

activities in other countries.

 

With your permission Guru Ji, it is my duty as a

members of SJC learning, I would like to add my

opinion as follows:

 

I sincerely, wish to become a SJC Jyotish Guru one day

(Surely will with your blessings and if god willing).

 

 

At that (future) time, I personally prefer to be

addressed as "Jyotish Guru Rao Nemani", rather than

"Professor (In Vedic Astrology) Rao Nemani".

 

Thank you,

Rao

 

---- original message-----

"Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani@s...>

Sun Jul 13, 2003 7:39 am

Re: Appointment of new Gurus and

Administra...

 

 

Dear List members,

 

Just a gentle reminder, that despite the necessary

polemics on the

tittle of the 'professor', the only tittle so far used

officially by

SJC is that of "guru". The word 'professor' was used

within

parenthesis by Sanjayji, in order to explain the term

guru. This is

because some of our members in Europe had specifically

made this

request, as they faced trouble from the officials

while conducting

SJC activities. So the term professor was used in

brackets to explain

the term guru solely for the benefit of our

internatioal members. It

is NOT a tittle that is being used by SJC. Of course,

the question

remains, whether professor is an adequate translation

of guru? For

Guru transcends far beyond than what Professor

implies, and many feel

that professor is a derogatory translation of the term

guru. But I

believe we need to cross the bridge only when SJC

reaches the level

of a research instituion or a university...ad even

then perhaps the

tittle guru will be preferred over that of professor.

The tittles

professor and guru belong to two separate cosmologies

and are not

interchangeable. It will eventually depend on what is

the path that

we are pursuing and what SJC's ultimate goals and aims

are.

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

 

 

 

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