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Pranaam Sanjay,

 

Happy birthday a few days in advance! I guess you will be travelling at the time

of your birthday and we will not be able to wish you.

 

I am glad you saw the end of the Moola dasa of Saturn, who is in Bhrashtamsa

(fallen) in D-60 and shows multiple curses in rasi chart. Ketu, on the other

hand, is well-placed in moolatrikona in D-60 in the 9th house of dharma. The

dharma followed in last life (9th in D-60) will come to your rescue in this

life and aid in the karma of this life (10th of rasi). All the very best for

the Ketu dasa that just started!

 

BTW, talking about Moola dasa, I see from the calculations below that you are

now using Sun along with Moon and lagna for starting the dasa. Sun is stronger

than lagna and Moon in your rasi chart and you have rightly started dasas from

Sun's quadrants below.

 

I don't know if you remember, but we had a big argument on the very same issue a

couple of years back on the list. I insisted that Sun should be used if he is

styronger than lagna and Moon, as Varahamihira, Kalyana Verma and Prithu Yasas

all taught the same. You deviated from the teachings of all these scholars and

insisted that Sun should not be used as the seed. We argued but could not come

to an agreement.

 

As all the ancient writers who covered Moola dasa taught that the stronger of

lagna, Moon and Sun should be used as the seed, I never had any doubt. I knew

all along that you were wrong. I am glad that you have now chosen to start your

Moola dasa from Sun!

 

Your Tithi Pravesha chart of 2003-04 looks good. But watch out during Mercury

dasa. Mercury owns Kali sahamam and 8th house. He is in marana karaka sthana in

7th along with 2nd lord Jupiter. All this is good for astrology (2nd and 8th

lords together and aspecting lagna!), but can suggest some physical danger too.

Whenever the 8th lord occupies 7th in any TP chart, I saw that his dasa would

bring some suffering. Here kali sahamam also goes into 8th. At the time the new

year starts (14th Aug 2003, 7:06 pm IST), please try to pray to Lakshmi and

Vishnu for relief from this bad placement (not only Mercury, but Venus is also

in marana karaka sthana).

 

Except this, the year is great. There is Chandra-Mangala yoga, Gaja-Kesari yoga

and Guru-Mangala yoga on lagna-7th axis and lagna lord is in a trine in the

house of an adhimitra. This will be a great year and all the very best!

 

Your sishya,Narasimha

-

Sanjay Rath

SJC ; Varahamihira (AT) (DOT) ; Vyasa

Sunday, August 10, 2003 4:45 AM

[Vedavyasa] Thank you great souls

parasmai çivajyotiñe namaù

Dear Jyotiña,

 

Thank you one and all, for your heartfelt felicitations on this beginning of a

new year in my life. As the Saturn Müla daçä ends it brings to an end the

eighteen-year curse of a great Brahmin who we had caused frustration and

sorrow. Having crossed that ocean of suffering, anger and frustration, today we

look back with tender thoughts to a period of great learning and salute the

paraà guru symbolized by the Brahmin. Even in the period of suffering, the

omnipotent soul did not fail in doing His duty in teaching me. In

introspection, we deserved every suffering just as we must have caused (perhaps

in another life).

 

Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): Self

Sun: 1963-08-07 (21:15:00) - 1968-08-07 (4:07:01)

Ven: 1968-08-07 (4:07:01) - 1985-08-07 (12:37:37) – Napunsaka curse of spouse

Sat: 1985-08-07 (12:37:37) - 2003-08-08 (3:14:23) – Curse period

Ket: 2003-08-08 (3:14:23) - 2008-08-07 (10:01:52) – Matsya Yoga to function

Rah: 2008-08-07 (10:01:52) - 2017-08-07 (17:25:40) – Dhana yoga to function

Jup: 2017-08-07 (17:25:40) - 2024-08-07 (12:24:32) – Mahapuruña & Kalpadruma yoga

Mars: 2024-08-07 (12:24:32) - 2031-08-08 (7:32:15) – Yogada (+apamåtyu)

Merc: 2031-08-08 (7:32:15) - 2047-08-08 (9:52:16) – Sarada Yoga

Moon: 2047-08-08 (9:52:16) - 2054-08-08 (4:49:00) – The end

 

As the müla daçä of an exalted Ketu begins we have been filled with thoughts of

how best to consolidate the jyotiña knowledge and my learning for the benefit

of my students and all of you. Conferences are necessary points of sharing some

thoughts and must continue although the response has been far from satisfactory.

The economic downturn has been painful for everyone and it is understandable.

 

The need of the hour is to revive the direct learning in a gurukul. We promise

you that this will be started in 2004 inspite of seemingly impossible odds.

There is nothing taller than the sky that cannot be reached once the heart is

set and the mind focused. With a sincere prayer to the sapta-åsi and Çré

Mahamatsya avatar, we begin this journey to the USA. We has asked sarvätma

Sürya for a sign and like the pure, enlightening rays of the sun, your wishes

poured down on my birthday. Thank you. The rays of the real sun (ätma), which

came from your hearts. I asked for a ray and the brilliant sunshine poured down

from your hearts. Thank you again. We were going to speak openly on the

Atmakaraka and had been worried whether opening up the jyotisa secrets like

this was right - you all have answered it. Sarvatma sury a has spoken from your

hearts...to this there is no doubt. I salute the divine lord in your heart with

all sincerity.

 

We have taken this promise to compile the best slokas in the form of a

voluminous book series called ‘Brihajjyotiña saëgrahaà’ and will complete this

work in the next five years from 2003-08. Your good wishes and love is all that

we need to continue in this path.

 

I remain,

At the feet of Çré Jagannätha

Sanjay Rath

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Dear Narasimha Ji,

 

Namaste,

 

I could not resist myself not to write to you in this

forum after reading your reply to Sanjay Ji. Very good

analysis, and I can understand your feeling and happiness

when you are correct on a principle, where your guru

had a different opinion.

 

You have mentioned that:

 

===========

"I don't know if you remember, but we had a big argument on

the very same issue a couple of years back on the list. I

insisted that Sun should be used if he is styronger than

lagna and Moon, as Varahamihira, Kalyana Verma and Prithu

Yasas all taught the same. You deviated from the teachings

of all these scholars and insisted that Sun should not be

used as the seed. We argued but could not come to an agreement.

"

 

"As all the ancient writers who covered Moola dasa taught

that the stronger of lagna, Moon and Sun should be used as

the seed, I never had any doubt. I knew all along that you

were wrong. I am glad that you have now chosen to start your

Moola dasa from Sun!"

 

==========

 

If I were you and I would have wrote to my guru "Privately"

instead in the public form and bring the knowledge to the

public in a different way.

 

As you know, I am no where comparable with you in this

knowlege of Devine Science yet, but you have my chart and

you can see me where I will be destined in this Destined

Science in few years time.

 

Please do not take me wrong here, as, I am trained to

"RESPECT" my Guru without any questions that too in public,

so when I see anyone who show dis-respect any any Guru's,

my AK sun will be in action to protect my Guru.

Otherwise the concept of respecting our guru's will diminish

in next generation.

 

My intension was to show you, how much I pay respect guru's

and my apolgies to you, if I may have hurt your feelings.

 

Regards

Rao

 

 

, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr108> wrote:

> GlacierPranaam Sanjay,

>

> Happy birthday a few days in advance! I guess you will be

travelling at the time of your birthday and we will not be able to

wish you.

>

> I am glad you saw the end of the Moola dasa of Saturn, who is in

Bhrashtamsa (fallen) in D-60 and shows multiple curses in rasi

chart. Ketu, on the other hand, is well-placed in moolatrikona in D-

60 in the 9th house of dharma. The dharma followed in last life (9th

in D-60) will come to your rescue in this life and aid in the karma

of this life (10th of rasi). All the very best for the Ketu dasa

that just started!

>

> BTW, talking about Moola dasa, I see from the calculations below

that you are now using Sun along with Moon and lagna for starting

the dasa. Sun is stronger than lagna and Moon in your rasi chart and

you have rightly started dasas from Sun's quadrants below.

>

> I don't know if you remember, but we had a big argument on the

very same issue a couple of years back on the list. I insisted that

Sun should be used if he is styronger than lagna and Moon, as

Varahamihira, Kalyana Verma and Prithu Yasas all taught the same.

You deviated from the teachings of all these scholars and insisted

that Sun should not be used as the seed. We argued but could not

come to an agreement.

>

> As all the ancient writers who covered Moola dasa taught that the

stronger of lagna, Moon and Sun should be used as the seed, I never

had any doubt. I knew all along that you were wrong. I am glad that

you have now chosen to start your Moola dasa from Sun!

>

> Your Tithi Pravesha chart of 2003-04 looks good. But watch out

during Mercury dasa. Mercury owns Kali sahamam and 8th house. He is

in marana karaka sthana in 7th along with 2nd lord Jupiter. All this

is good for astrology (2nd and 8th lords together and aspecting

lagna!), but can suggest some physical danger too. Whenever the 8th

lord occupies 7th in any TP chart, I saw that his dasa would bring

some suffering. Here kali sahamam also goes into 8th. At the time

the new year starts (14th Aug 2003, 7:06 pm IST), please try to pray

to Lakshmi and Vishnu for relief from this bad placement (not only

Mercury, but Venus is also in marana karaka sthana).

>

> Except this, the year is great. There is Chandra-Mangala yoga,

Gaja-Kesari yoga and Guru-Mangala yoga on lagna-7th axis and lagna

lord is in a trine in the house of an adhimitra. This will be a

great year and all the very best!

>

> Your sishya,

> Narasimha

> -

> Sanjay Rath

> SJC ; Varahamihira (AT) (DOT) ; Vyasa

> Sunday, August 10, 2003 4:45 AM

> [Vedavyasa] Thank you great souls

>

>

> parasmai çivajyotiñe namaù

>

> Dear Jyotiña,

>

>

>

> Thank you one and all, for your heartfelt felicitations on this

beginning of a new year in my life. As the Saturn Müla daçä ends it

brings to an end the eighteen-year curse of a great Brahmin who we

had caused frustration and sorrow. Having crossed that ocean of

suffering, anger and frustration, today we look back with tender

thoughts to a period of great learning and salute the paraà guru

symbolized by the Brahmin. Even in the period of suffering, the

omnipotent soul did not fail in doing His duty in teaching me. In

introspection, we deserved every suffering just as we must have

caused (perhaps in another life).

>

>

>

> Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): Self

> Sun: 1963-08-07 (21:15:00) - 1968-08-07 (4:07:01)

>

> Ven: 1968-08-07 (4:07:01) - 1985-08-07 (12:37:37) – Napunsaka

curse of spouse

>

> Sat: 1985-08-07 (12:37:37) - 2003-08-08 (3:14:23) – Curse period

>

> Ket: 2003-08-08 (3:14:23) - 2008-08-07 (10:01:52) – Matsya Yoga

to function

>

> Rah: 2008-08-07 (10:01:52) - 2017-08-07 (17:25:40) – Dhana yoga

to function

>

> Jup: 2017-08-07 (17:25:40) - 2024-08-07 (12:24:32) – Mahapuruña

& Kalpadruma yoga

>

> Mars: 2024-08-07 (12:24:32) - 2031-08-08 (7:32:15) – Yogada

(+apamåtyu)

>

> Merc: 2031-08-08 (7:32:15) - 2047-08-08 (9:52:16) – Sarada Yoga

>

> Moon: 2047-08-08 (9:52:16) - 2054-08-08 (4:49:00) – The end

>

>

>

> As the müla daçä of an exalted Ketu begins we have been filled

with thoughts of how best to consolidate the jyotiña knowledge and

my learning for the benefit of my students and all of you.

Conferences are necessary points of sharing some thoughts and must

continue although the response has been far from satisfactory. The

economic downturn has been painful for everyone and it is

understandable.

>

>

>

> The need of the hour is to revive the direct learning in a

gurukul. We promise you that this will be started in 2004 inspite of

seemingly impossible odds. There is nothing taller than the sky that

cannot be reached once the heart is set and the mind focused. With a

sincere prayer to the sapta-åsi and Çré Mahamatsya avatar, we begin

this journey to the USA. We has asked sarvätma Sürya for a sign and

like the pure, enlightening rays of the sun, your wishes poured down

on my birthday. Thank you. The rays of the real sun (ätma), which

came from your hearts. I asked for a ray and the brilliant sunshine

poured down from your hearts. Thank you again. We were going to

speak openly on the Atmakaraka and had been worried whether opening

up the jyotisa secrets like this was right - you all have answered

it. Sarvatma sury a has spoken from your hearts...to this there is

no doubt. I salute the divine lord in your heart with all sincerity.

>

>

>

> We have taken this promise to compile the best slokas in the

form of a voluminous book series called `Brihajjyotiña saëgrahaà'

and will complete this work in the next five years from 2003-08.

Your good wishes and love is all that we need to continue in this

path.

>

>

>

> I remain,

>

> At the feet of Çré Jagannätha

>

> Sanjay Rath

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||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

 

Dear Rao,

 

Forgive me for butting in here but what you are talking about is

only one instance! Narasimha and Sanjay have duelled on more than

one occasion and I really enjoy reading their repartees (as do the

others /I hope!/). This is the sign of 'two dancing Wu Li masters'

at work here (to borrow from the book by Gary Zukaw) and just

because they have agreed to disagree does not mean that one

disrespects the other. In fact, if you read the email carefully, you

would note that Narasimha has signed off as "Your shishya" which

inherently shows the respect he has for his Guru. Airing his

differences privately or publicly with his Guru does not make any

difference to Narasimha but it does to us ordinary learners!! This

way, we can grasp the true essence of learning. Probably you feel

different about it, thats all.

 

regards

Hari

 

 

, "Rao Nemani" <raonemani>

wrote:

> Dear Narasimha Ji,

>

> Namaste,

>

> I could not resist myself not to write to you in this

> forum after reading your reply to Sanjay Ji. Very good

> analysis, and I can understand your feeling and happiness

> when you are correct on a principle, where your guru

> had a different opinion.

>

> You have mentioned that:

>

> ===========

> "I don't know if you remember, but we had a big argument on

> the very same issue a couple of years back on the list. I

> insisted that Sun should be used if he is styronger than

> lagna and Moon, as Varahamihira, Kalyana Verma and Prithu

> Yasas all taught the same. You deviated from the teachings

> of all these scholars and insisted that Sun should not be

> used as the seed. We argued but could not come to an agreement.

> "

>

> "As all the ancient writers who covered Moola dasa taught

> that the stronger of lagna, Moon and Sun should be used as

> the seed, I never had any doubt. I knew all along that you

> were wrong. I am glad that you have now chosen to start your

> Moola dasa from Sun!"

>

> ==========

>

> If I were you and I would have wrote to my guru "Privately"

> instead in the public form and bring the knowledge to the

> public in a different way.

>

> As you know, I am no where comparable with you in this

> knowlege of Devine Science yet, but you have my chart and

> you can see me where I will be destined in this Destined

> Science in few years time.

>

> Please do not take me wrong here, as, I am trained to

> "RESPECT" my Guru without any questions that too in public,

> so when I see anyone who show dis-respect any any Guru's,

> my AK sun will be in action to protect my Guru.

> Otherwise the concept of respecting our guru's will diminish

> in next generation.

>

> My intension was to show you, how much I pay respect guru's

> and my apolgies to you, if I may have hurt your feelings.

>

> Regards

> Rao

>

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