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Guest guest Posted August 10, 2003 Report Share Posted August 10, 2003 Pranaam Sanjay, Happy birthday a few days in advance! I guess you will be travelling at the time of your birthday and we will not be able to wish you. I am glad you saw the end of the Moola dasa of Saturn, who is in Bhrashtamsa (fallen) in D-60 and shows multiple curses in rasi chart. Ketu, on the other hand, is well-placed in moolatrikona in D-60 in the 9th house of dharma. The dharma followed in last life (9th in D-60) will come to your rescue in this life and aid in the karma of this life (10th of rasi). All the very best for the Ketu dasa that just started! BTW, talking about Moola dasa, I see from the calculations below that you are now using Sun along with Moon and lagna for starting the dasa. Sun is stronger than lagna and Moon in your rasi chart and you have rightly started dasas from Sun's quadrants below. I don't know if you remember, but we had a big argument on the very same issue a couple of years back on the list. I insisted that Sun should be used if he is styronger than lagna and Moon, as Varahamihira, Kalyana Verma and Prithu Yasas all taught the same. You deviated from the teachings of all these scholars and insisted that Sun should not be used as the seed. We argued but could not come to an agreement. As all the ancient writers who covered Moola dasa taught that the stronger of lagna, Moon and Sun should be used as the seed, I never had any doubt. I knew all along that you were wrong. I am glad that you have now chosen to start your Moola dasa from Sun! Your Tithi Pravesha chart of 2003-04 looks good. But watch out during Mercury dasa. Mercury owns Kali sahamam and 8th house. He is in marana karaka sthana in 7th along with 2nd lord Jupiter. All this is good for astrology (2nd and 8th lords together and aspecting lagna!), but can suggest some physical danger too. Whenever the 8th lord occupies 7th in any TP chart, I saw that his dasa would bring some suffering. Here kali sahamam also goes into 8th. At the time the new year starts (14th Aug 2003, 7:06 pm IST), please try to pray to Lakshmi and Vishnu for relief from this bad placement (not only Mercury, but Venus is also in marana karaka sthana). Except this, the year is great. There is Chandra-Mangala yoga, Gaja-Kesari yoga and Guru-Mangala yoga on lagna-7th axis and lagna lord is in a trine in the house of an adhimitra. This will be a great year and all the very best! Your sishya,Narasimha - Sanjay Rath SJC ; Varahamihira (AT) (DOT) ; Vyasa Sunday, August 10, 2003 4:45 AM [Vedavyasa] Thank you great souls parasmai çivajyotiñe namaù Dear Jyotiña, Thank you one and all, for your heartfelt felicitations on this beginning of a new year in my life. As the Saturn Müla daçä ends it brings to an end the eighteen-year curse of a great Brahmin who we had caused frustration and sorrow. Having crossed that ocean of suffering, anger and frustration, today we look back with tender thoughts to a period of great learning and salute the paraà guru symbolized by the Brahmin. Even in the period of suffering, the omnipotent soul did not fail in doing His duty in teaching me. In introspection, we deserved every suffering just as we must have caused (perhaps in another life). Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): Self Sun: 1963-08-07 (21:15:00) - 1968-08-07 (4:07:01) Ven: 1968-08-07 (4:07:01) - 1985-08-07 (12:37:37) – Napunsaka curse of spouse Sat: 1985-08-07 (12:37:37) - 2003-08-08 (3:14:23) – Curse period Ket: 2003-08-08 (3:14:23) - 2008-08-07 (10:01:52) – Matsya Yoga to function Rah: 2008-08-07 (10:01:52) - 2017-08-07 (17:25:40) – Dhana yoga to function Jup: 2017-08-07 (17:25:40) - 2024-08-07 (12:24:32) – Mahapuruña & Kalpadruma yoga Mars: 2024-08-07 (12:24:32) - 2031-08-08 (7:32:15) – Yogada (+apamåtyu) Merc: 2031-08-08 (7:32:15) - 2047-08-08 (9:52:16) – Sarada Yoga Moon: 2047-08-08 (9:52:16) - 2054-08-08 (4:49:00) – The end As the müla daçä of an exalted Ketu begins we have been filled with thoughts of how best to consolidate the jyotiña knowledge and my learning for the benefit of my students and all of you. Conferences are necessary points of sharing some thoughts and must continue although the response has been far from satisfactory. The economic downturn has been painful for everyone and it is understandable. The need of the hour is to revive the direct learning in a gurukul. We promise you that this will be started in 2004 inspite of seemingly impossible odds. There is nothing taller than the sky that cannot be reached once the heart is set and the mind focused. With a sincere prayer to the sapta-åsi and Çré Mahamatsya avatar, we begin this journey to the USA. We has asked sarvätma Sürya for a sign and like the pure, enlightening rays of the sun, your wishes poured down on my birthday. Thank you. The rays of the real sun (ätma), which came from your hearts. I asked for a ray and the brilliant sunshine poured down from your hearts. Thank you again. We were going to speak openly on the Atmakaraka and had been worried whether opening up the jyotisa secrets like this was right - you all have answered it. Sarvatma sury a has spoken from your hearts...to this there is no doubt. I salute the divine lord in your heart with all sincerity. We have taken this promise to compile the best slokas in the form of a voluminous book series called ‘Brihajjyotiña saëgrahaà’ and will complete this work in the next five years from 2003-08. Your good wishes and love is all that we need to continue in this path. I remain, At the feet of Çré Jagannätha Sanjay Rath Attachment: (image/gif) bac.gif [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2003 Report Share Posted August 10, 2003 Dear Narasimha Ji, Namaste, I could not resist myself not to write to you in this forum after reading your reply to Sanjay Ji. Very good analysis, and I can understand your feeling and happiness when you are correct on a principle, where your guru had a different opinion. You have mentioned that: =========== "I don't know if you remember, but we had a big argument on the very same issue a couple of years back on the list. I insisted that Sun should be used if he is styronger than lagna and Moon, as Varahamihira, Kalyana Verma and Prithu Yasas all taught the same. You deviated from the teachings of all these scholars and insisted that Sun should not be used as the seed. We argued but could not come to an agreement. " "As all the ancient writers who covered Moola dasa taught that the stronger of lagna, Moon and Sun should be used as the seed, I never had any doubt. I knew all along that you were wrong. I am glad that you have now chosen to start your Moola dasa from Sun!" ========== If I were you and I would have wrote to my guru "Privately" instead in the public form and bring the knowledge to the public in a different way. As you know, I am no where comparable with you in this knowlege of Devine Science yet, but you have my chart and you can see me where I will be destined in this Destined Science in few years time. Please do not take me wrong here, as, I am trained to "RESPECT" my Guru without any questions that too in public, so when I see anyone who show dis-respect any any Guru's, my AK sun will be in action to protect my Guru. Otherwise the concept of respecting our guru's will diminish in next generation. My intension was to show you, how much I pay respect guru's and my apolgies to you, if I may have hurt your feelings. Regards Rao , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr108> wrote: > GlacierPranaam Sanjay, > > Happy birthday a few days in advance! I guess you will be travelling at the time of your birthday and we will not be able to wish you. > > I am glad you saw the end of the Moola dasa of Saturn, who is in Bhrashtamsa (fallen) in D-60 and shows multiple curses in rasi chart. Ketu, on the other hand, is well-placed in moolatrikona in D- 60 in the 9th house of dharma. The dharma followed in last life (9th in D-60) will come to your rescue in this life and aid in the karma of this life (10th of rasi). All the very best for the Ketu dasa that just started! > > BTW, talking about Moola dasa, I see from the calculations below that you are now using Sun along with Moon and lagna for starting the dasa. Sun is stronger than lagna and Moon in your rasi chart and you have rightly started dasas from Sun's quadrants below. > > I don't know if you remember, but we had a big argument on the very same issue a couple of years back on the list. I insisted that Sun should be used if he is styronger than lagna and Moon, as Varahamihira, Kalyana Verma and Prithu Yasas all taught the same. You deviated from the teachings of all these scholars and insisted that Sun should not be used as the seed. We argued but could not come to an agreement. > > As all the ancient writers who covered Moola dasa taught that the stronger of lagna, Moon and Sun should be used as the seed, I never had any doubt. I knew all along that you were wrong. I am glad that you have now chosen to start your Moola dasa from Sun! > > Your Tithi Pravesha chart of 2003-04 looks good. But watch out during Mercury dasa. Mercury owns Kali sahamam and 8th house. He is in marana karaka sthana in 7th along with 2nd lord Jupiter. All this is good for astrology (2nd and 8th lords together and aspecting lagna!), but can suggest some physical danger too. Whenever the 8th lord occupies 7th in any TP chart, I saw that his dasa would bring some suffering. Here kali sahamam also goes into 8th. At the time the new year starts (14th Aug 2003, 7:06 pm IST), please try to pray to Lakshmi and Vishnu for relief from this bad placement (not only Mercury, but Venus is also in marana karaka sthana). > > Except this, the year is great. There is Chandra-Mangala yoga, Gaja-Kesari yoga and Guru-Mangala yoga on lagna-7th axis and lagna lord is in a trine in the house of an adhimitra. This will be a great year and all the very best! > > Your sishya, > Narasimha > - > Sanjay Rath > SJC ; Varahamihira (AT) (DOT) ; Vyasa > Sunday, August 10, 2003 4:45 AM > [Vedavyasa] Thank you great souls > > > parasmai çivajyotiñe namaù > > Dear Jyotiña, > > > > Thank you one and all, for your heartfelt felicitations on this beginning of a new year in my life. As the Saturn Müla daçä ends it brings to an end the eighteen-year curse of a great Brahmin who we had caused frustration and sorrow. Having crossed that ocean of suffering, anger and frustration, today we look back with tender thoughts to a period of great learning and salute the paraà guru symbolized by the Brahmin. Even in the period of suffering, the omnipotent soul did not fail in doing His duty in teaching me. In introspection, we deserved every suffering just as we must have caused (perhaps in another life). > > > > Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): Self > Sun: 1963-08-07 (21:15:00) - 1968-08-07 (4:07:01) > > Ven: 1968-08-07 (4:07:01) - 1985-08-07 (12:37:37) – Napunsaka curse of spouse > > Sat: 1985-08-07 (12:37:37) - 2003-08-08 (3:14:23) – Curse period > > Ket: 2003-08-08 (3:14:23) - 2008-08-07 (10:01:52) – Matsya Yoga to function > > Rah: 2008-08-07 (10:01:52) - 2017-08-07 (17:25:40) – Dhana yoga to function > > Jup: 2017-08-07 (17:25:40) - 2024-08-07 (12:24:32) – Mahapuruña & Kalpadruma yoga > > Mars: 2024-08-07 (12:24:32) - 2031-08-08 (7:32:15) – Yogada (+apamåtyu) > > Merc: 2031-08-08 (7:32:15) - 2047-08-08 (9:52:16) – Sarada Yoga > > Moon: 2047-08-08 (9:52:16) - 2054-08-08 (4:49:00) – The end > > > > As the müla daçä of an exalted Ketu begins we have been filled with thoughts of how best to consolidate the jyotiña knowledge and my learning for the benefit of my students and all of you. Conferences are necessary points of sharing some thoughts and must continue although the response has been far from satisfactory. The economic downturn has been painful for everyone and it is understandable. > > > > The need of the hour is to revive the direct learning in a gurukul. We promise you that this will be started in 2004 inspite of seemingly impossible odds. There is nothing taller than the sky that cannot be reached once the heart is set and the mind focused. With a sincere prayer to the sapta-åsi and Çré Mahamatsya avatar, we begin this journey to the USA. We has asked sarvätma Sürya for a sign and like the pure, enlightening rays of the sun, your wishes poured down on my birthday. Thank you. The rays of the real sun (ätma), which came from your hearts. I asked for a ray and the brilliant sunshine poured down from your hearts. Thank you again. We were going to speak openly on the Atmakaraka and had been worried whether opening up the jyotisa secrets like this was right - you all have answered it. Sarvatma sury a has spoken from your hearts...to this there is no doubt. I salute the divine lord in your heart with all sincerity. > > > > We have taken this promise to compile the best slokas in the form of a voluminous book series called `Brihajjyotiña saëgrahaà' and will complete this work in the next five years from 2003-08. Your good wishes and love is all that we need to continue in this path. > > > > I remain, > > At the feet of Çré Jagannätha > > Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2003 Report Share Posted August 10, 2003 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Rao, Forgive me for butting in here but what you are talking about is only one instance! Narasimha and Sanjay have duelled on more than one occasion and I really enjoy reading their repartees (as do the others /I hope!/). This is the sign of 'two dancing Wu Li masters' at work here (to borrow from the book by Gary Zukaw) and just because they have agreed to disagree does not mean that one disrespects the other. In fact, if you read the email carefully, you would note that Narasimha has signed off as "Your shishya" which inherently shows the respect he has for his Guru. Airing his differences privately or publicly with his Guru does not make any difference to Narasimha but it does to us ordinary learners!! This way, we can grasp the true essence of learning. Probably you feel different about it, thats all. regards Hari , "Rao Nemani" <raonemani> wrote: > Dear Narasimha Ji, > > Namaste, > > I could not resist myself not to write to you in this > forum after reading your reply to Sanjay Ji. Very good > analysis, and I can understand your feeling and happiness > when you are correct on a principle, where your guru > had a different opinion. > > You have mentioned that: > > =========== > "I don't know if you remember, but we had a big argument on > the very same issue a couple of years back on the list. I > insisted that Sun should be used if he is styronger than > lagna and Moon, as Varahamihira, Kalyana Verma and Prithu > Yasas all taught the same. You deviated from the teachings > of all these scholars and insisted that Sun should not be > used as the seed. We argued but could not come to an agreement. > " > > "As all the ancient writers who covered Moola dasa taught > that the stronger of lagna, Moon and Sun should be used as > the seed, I never had any doubt. I knew all along that you > were wrong. I am glad that you have now chosen to start your > Moola dasa from Sun!" > > ========== > > If I were you and I would have wrote to my guru "Privately" > instead in the public form and bring the knowledge to the > public in a different way. > > As you know, I am no where comparable with you in this > knowlege of Devine Science yet, but you have my chart and > you can see me where I will be destined in this Destined > Science in few years time. > > Please do not take me wrong here, as, I am trained to > "RESPECT" my Guru without any questions that too in public, > so when I see anyone who show dis-respect any any Guru's, > my AK sun will be in action to protect my Guru. > Otherwise the concept of respecting our guru's will diminish > in next generation. > > My intension was to show you, how much I pay respect guru's > and my apolgies to you, if I may have hurt your feelings. > > Regards > Rao > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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