Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Aum Namo Bhagvate Hrishikeshaya Respected Gurudeva, Guruji(s) and friends: The topic of Vipareeta Raja Yoga; surfaces rather regularly on our lists. The archives have a lot of information regarding VRY. However, like all yogas, there are different variations [as explained at Gurudeva Sanjay Rathji's site] and further discussions are always welcome. Personally, I have been studying Vipareeta Raja Yoga since two years [and still not good at it - LOL] because my own chart has a strong Vipareeta Raja Yoga which is going to trigger from November 25, 2003 [not very distant, yes?]. Attached, please find my own chart [it has been rectified to seconds] and observe the VRY therein. Here are some notes on my own observations: I] Major & Minor details regarding this VRY: 1) It is a strong Vipareeta Raja Yoga [condition satisfied by 6th lord in 12th with 12th lord in own house]. 2) Venus and Mars aspect Mercury [Lagna Lord] by Rashi Drishti. 3) Mars aspects Moon, AL, A7, A6 in 3rd house by Graha Dristi. 4) Saturn [lord of 8th and also 9th] is in best trine and own house + moolatrikona [though Retrograde]. 5) Saturn also aspects Moon, AL, A7, A6 by Graha Drishti and aspects Lagna Lord Mercury by Rashi Drishti. 6) Venus is debilitated in Navamsa. 7) Venus is Ishta Devata, Palana Devata, and Guru Devata. 8) Hora Lagna is in 12th house [stage settings of VRY]. 9) Ghati Lagna is in 9th house [stage settings for Saturn's indirect involvement]. 10) Arudha Lagna is in 3rd house [as noted above] and forms Srimantha Yoga [AL + A7]. II] Dasa analysis and observations: Not considering individual bala, Venus is actually weaker than Mars. Currently, I am running Rahu/Moon [Vimsottari] and almost at the end of it. Rahu/Venus was mixed... in that... first part of Rahu/Venus gave me increased business opportunities, I even bought a new BMW car [above average in terms of luxurious gadgets fixed in it], and money just poured in without much effort. However, after Rahu/Venus/Mars [Maha/Antar/Pratyantar] things started going downhill. For example, Rahu/Venus/Jupiter saw me losing my luxurious and well decorated house DUE to enemies [Exactly on September 4, 2003 when Venus, Mars, and Moon were all debilitated - Gochara]. The downfall continued well into Rahu/Sun [Vimsottari], however, Rahu/Moon was comparatively nice and comfortable. In fact, I started *gaining* back in Rahu/Moon and this year got an EVEN better and luxuriously decorated house. I am keeping away from cars as I am prone to accidents, etc. during this period. Anyway, coming back to VRY, now Rahu/Mars/Mars will trigger the strongest VRY in this period of my life. The only signification that will be affected and has me more than worried... is the 5th house [Venus lords the 5th house as well]. Human beings, by nature, are very selfish. Therefore, I will admit that I am not much concerned by significations of other houses that will be affected [6th, 11th, and 12th]. Gains of 11th are guaranteed, as HL is in 12th and therefore, money will not be an issue after VRY triggers. Protecting the 5th therefore is a major concern [and yes I am doing appropriate remedies and mantras]. Also note that Venus is the hidden enemy [12th house] while it is still the Ishta, Palana, and Guru Devata. In the upcoming VRY, Venus is most definitely bound to fall and Mars will do that job. However, it is not a pleasant scenario when one's Ishta falls. Therefore, that is my other worry and concern in this VRY. Hopefully, Hrishikesha will come to aid and everything will be fine. Finally, as I said above, I am studying VRY since two years and am still not good at it. In case, I have made any errors in analysis or predictions above, I hope that Gurudeva, Guruji(s) and experts at this list will kindly correct me. One more thing... two years ago when I first knew I had a strong VRY, I was thrilled [expecting materialistic bliss, etc.]. However, now having understood its effects and consequences, I am not excited about Vipareeta Raja Yoga. Perhaps, for a very desperate person, such Yogas would be welcome. For most of us, we rather wish we had some good yogas like a strong Gaja Kesari, Dharmakarmadhipati, or even better, Pancha Mahapurusha! With that, please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you all take care too. Aum Namo Narayana Kind regards from, Ron suchandr (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote: NamasShivaaya! Dear Pranav, Please read Gurudev Sanjay ji's article on VRY from the following link. http://www.srath.com/lesson/vry.htm Generally, the planet conjoing VRY causing planets will suffer it's significations. In this case, Mother passing away early on is an indication of Moon's tryst with Vipareetha. As Moon being 5th lord, it may bring lot of sorrow/suffering related to 5th house matters such as children, instability of mind etc... Best Regards, -Suresh. 7 14 1964 4.2833 -5.30 -73.48 19.59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Aum Namo Bhagvate Hrishikeshayaa I bow down at the lotus feet of my Gurudeva. Pranaams Ramesh, I apologize for the delay in getting back to you; as I was tied up over the weekend. Please see my comments in blue below: rgangaramani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Ron, You have posted an interesting example. The example however includes additional parameters. Though it is true that even VRY has be looked in 'total perspective', I shall appreciate if you can indicate basic guidelines to show ; 1. when VRY fructifies and During the dashas of the planets involved. Mostly during Maha and Antar [and to a minor extent Pratyantar as well]. Using a Phalita Dasa like Vimsottari could give near enough accurate timing. Provided that Vimsottari has been used based on the stronger of Moon, Lagna, or Sun in the chart. In my case [the original attached chart], while Lagna is stronger with Sun in it, I still use Vimsottari from Moon as that seems to match pretty much with events in my life. So I would say you could experiment with all starting points of Vimsottari including other taras. 2. which house significations get a boost Since Vipareeta Raja Yoga works on the basis of Negative and Negative = Positive, the houses lorded by the planets involved cancel out the bad effects of each other. Related houses or other associated houses *may* also get destroyed in the process. For example, in my case, Venus lords 5th house and 12th house. Whereas Mars lords 6th house and 11th house. Therefore matters related to these houses will suffer. About which house gets significant boost, Vipareeta Raja Yoga is supposed to give an overall boost to the Jataka. Therefore, Lagna and/or AL and the houses co-lorded by the lord of these. It would be good to have Cancer or Leo involved in Vipareeta Raja Yoga [not that Vipareeta Raja Yoga is good], simply from my point of view that since Cancer and Leo own only one house, the destruction or effect on other houses is *minimal*. Similarly, if Scorpio or Aquarius are involved in Vipareeta Raja Yoga, then one must also take into account the aspects or effects of other co-lords namely Ketu and Rahu respectively. Nonetheless, such a Vipareeta Raja Yoga would be very interesting indeed. 3. which house significations get a down turn. I have covered the answer of this in the answers to point (2) above. Thanks and kind regards Ramesh You are always welcome. However, please do remember as I stated earlier that I am not a totally reliable authority on Vipareeta Raja Yoga as I am biased despite studying it for 2 years. Biased because my own chart has it and the upcoming trigger is not that far enough. And besides that, I am still a average shishya of our divine parampara at the lotus feet of amazing Gurudeva. Therefore, if I have made any errors or misjudgments, may Gurudeva or Guruji(s) kindly correct me. Many thanks in advance. Aum Namo Narayana With that, please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you all take care too. Kind regards and best wishes from Ron Bach - Ron Bach Saturday, September 13, 2003 5:23 PM [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Vipreeta Raja Yoga Aum Namo Bhagvate Hrishikeshaya Respected Gurudeva, Guruji(s) and friends: The topic of Vipareeta Raja Yoga; surfaces rather regularly on our lists. The archives have a lot of information regarding VRY. However, like all yogas, there are different variations [as explained at Gurudeva Sanjay Rathji's site] and further discussions are always welcome. Personally, I have been studying Vipareeta Raja Yoga since two years [and still not good at it - LOL] because my own chart has a strong Vipareeta Raja Yoga which is going to trigger from November 25, 2003 [not very distant, yes?]. Attached, please find my own chart [it has been rectified to seconds] and observe the VRY therein. Here are some notes on my own observations: I] Major & Minor details regarding this VRY: 1) It is a strong Vipareeta Raja Yoga [condition satisfied by 6th lord in 12th with 12th lord in own house]. 2) Venus and Mars aspect Mercury [Lagna Lord] by Rashi Drishti. 3) Mars aspects Moon, AL, A7, A6 in 3rd house by Graha Dristi. 4) Saturn [lord of 8th and also 9th] is in best trine and own house + moolatrikona [though Retrograde]. 5) Saturn also aspects Moon, AL, A7, A6 by Graha Drishti and aspects Lagna Lord Mercury by Rashi Drishti. 6) Venus is debilitated in Navamsa. 7) Venus is Ishta Devata, Palana Devata, and Guru Devata. 8) Hora Lagna is in 12th house [stage settings of VRY]. 9) Ghati Lagna is in 9th house [stage settings for Saturn's indirect involvement]. 10) Arudha Lagna is in 3rd house [as noted above] and forms Srimantha Yoga [AL + A7]. II] Dasa analysis and observations: Not considering individual bala, Venus is actually weaker than Mars. Currently, I am running Rahu/Moon [Vimsottari] and almost at the end of it. Rahu/Venus was mixed... in that... first part of Rahu/Venus gave me increased business opportunities, I even bought a new BMW car [above average in terms of luxurious gadgets fixed in it], and money just poured in without much effort. However, after Rahu/Venus/Mars [Maha/Antar/Pratyantar] things started going downhill. For example, Rahu/Venus/Jupiter saw me losing my luxurious and well decorated house DUE to enemies [Exactly on September 4, 2003 when Venus, Mars, and Moon were all debilitated - Gochara]. The downfall continued well into Rahu/Sun [Vimsottari], however, Rahu/Moon was comparatively nice and comfortable. In fact, I started *gaining* back in Rahu/Moon and this year got an EVEN better and luxuriously decorated house. I am keeping away from cars as I am prone to accidents, etc. during this period. Anyway, coming back to VRY, now Rahu/Mars/Mars will trigger the strongest VRY in this period of my life. The only signification that will be affected and has me more than worried... is the 5th house [Venus lords the 5th house as well]. Human beings, by nature, are very selfish. Therefore, I will admit that I am not much concerned by significations of other houses that will be affected [6th, 11th, and 12th]. Gains of 11th are guaranteed, as HL is in 12th and therefore, money will not be an issue after VRY triggers. Protecting the 5th therefore is a major concern [and yes I am doing appropriate remedies and mantras]. Also note that Venus is the hidden enemy [12th house] while it is still the Ishta, Palana, and Guru Devata. In the upcoming VRY, Venus is most definitely bound to fall and Mars will do that job. However, it is not a pleasant scenario when one's Ishta falls. Therefore, that is my other worry and concern in this VRY. Hopefully, Hrishikesha will come to aid and everything will be fine. Finally, as I said above, I am studying VRY since two years and am still not good at it. In case, I have made any errors in analysis or predictions above, I hope that Gurudeva, Guruji(s) and experts at this list will kindly correct me. One more thing... two years ago when I first knew I had a strong VRY, I was thrilled [expecting materialistic bliss, etc.]. However, now having understood its effects and consequences, I am not excited about Vipareeta Raja Yoga. Perhaps, for a very desperate person, such Yogas would be welcome. For most of us, we rather wish we had some good yogas like a strong Gaja Kesari, Dharmakarmadhipati, or even better, Pancha Mahapurusha! With that, please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you all take care too. Aum Namo Narayana Kind regards from, Ron 7 14 1964 4.28.20 -5.30 -73.48 19.59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Ron, excellent post and self-analysis. However I shudder at the thought of the amount of reading/thinking/analysis that I have to do in order to be even called an 'average' shishya of Gurudeva! And I am only a second generation student here (second generation being defined as student of ex-student of Gurudeva)! I suppose the status of being a student in this Achutya Dasa parampara (divine as you call it) would be enough for me, :-) regards Hari , Ron Bach <humbleshishya@n...> wrote: And besides that, I am still a average shishya of our divine > parampara at the lotus feet of amazing Gurudeva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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