Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Dear Jay and all, May I add something? Lots of Qs have to be answered- If egg was fertilized- let's say that's "initiation" Than it's planted /20yrs later/ in 'mother's /or surrogate mother's????/ womb for 'sustenance 'Normally' the two go together simultaneously- but not here!- Is adhana lagna decided 20 years in advance? For all fertilized eggs same Lagna? I am not getting this, really.. Any clarifications? Anna - "J.Weiss" <jayhw <> Friday, February 06, 2004 1:50 AM [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Classics: Astrological challange beyond your wildest fantasy > Dear Nitin, > > I have the same "why's" and as I wrote earlier, there must be more to it as > the entire stanza is "lose" (in my opinion), which is beyond me. > > regards > /Jay Weiss > > > > - > "Nitin Khanna" <sjvc > <> > Friday, February 06, 2004 2:45 AM > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Classics: Astrological challange beyond your > wildest fantasy > > > > ||Namah Shivaaya|| > > > > Dear Jay, > > > > I'm jumpiing in a little late, but the Classics on the light of the Stars > also reveal more.... > > > > > > ================================ > > Brihat Jataka: > > > > CHAPTER IV > > Stanza 22: > > If Makara or Kumbha navamsa rises at the time of conception, aspected by > Sani, the child will be born after 4 years. > > > > If Katakamsa rises at the time of conception, aspected by Chandra, then > the birth occurs after 12 years of pregnancy. > > > > ================================ > > > > Why Makar or Kumbh alone? > > > > Why the aspects of Shani? > > > > Why 4 years? > > > > Why Chandra? > > > > Why 12 years? > > > > There is much more said here, than what the Maharishis revealed to us. I > do not have the reasons for this, but am reflective, as are many... > > > > Hope that this helps. > > Nitin. > > :> > > > > ||Namah Shivaaya|| > > > > -- > > "dhamakesin" <dhamakesin > > > > Thu, 05 Feb 2004 06:48:08 -0000 > > > > >Dear J, > > > > > >Each moment and location is significant, as the birth of something. > > >Such as a prasna chart, which is cast for the moment the astrologer > > >answers the question at his location. So a birth is a question of a > > >sort too, for which the time (and location) of emergence from the > > >womb is significant. All things have different gestation periods and > > >we have a very difficult time determining the actual first cause. > > >But the moment of birth is identifiable. Measurements are always > > >variable however, such as the time of sunrise for example, which may > > >vary based upon the definition of the sunrise (first ray, middle, > > >completely free of the horizon) or the observation techniques. It > > >doesn't seem to me that this is a new issue at all. > > > > > >, "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote: > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> We have seen various astrological dilemmas in the past, some of > > >which remain a future challenge. > > >> If the surrogate mother issue confused you in the past, this one > > >will blow your mind out as it is beyond anything known so far, > > >breaking every rule in the book(s)! > > >> > > >> Imagine that a woman's eggs are fertilized outside the womb. > > >Nothing new about that, right ? > > >> That was back in 1990. > > >> As a result of this process 12 embryos were 'created' of which 4 > > >were returned to the mothers womb, 2 were accepted, resulting in the > > >birth of 2 healthy girls (now about 11 years old). > > >> The other 8 embryos were FROZEN and stored in the hospital! > > >> > > >> Two years ago the couple decided to have more children and the > > >hospital defrosted 4 of the frozen embryos, which were placed in the > > >mothers womb, three were accepted, one removed AND 2 developed > > >normaly into a boy and a girl that were born about 9 month ago. > > >> That is 12 years (!!!) AFTER 'creation'. > > >> The doctors say that the now 9 month old twins develop normally. > > >> > > >> The above true event happened in Jerusalem's (Israel) Hadasa > > >hospital and the entire story appears in the February issue of "The > > >Reproduction Journal" and I assume will be available on the net in a > > >couple of month (http://www.reproduction-online.org/). > > >> > > >> This event is a historical and as such it is in a complete > > >opposition to any theory of a conception chart in relation with a > > >birth chart. > > >> > > >> Instead of writing tons of astrological and moral issues here I > > >leave the rest to your vivid imagination. > > >> > > >> What does any learned astrologer have to say about such a > > >challenge ? > > >> > > >> Blessings > > >> /Jay Weiss > > >> http://www.alvicomm.com > > >> http://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > Send a blank mail > > To : - > > To : > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > Send a blank mail > To : - > To : > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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