A Can anyone help me understand functional malefics? 3rd/6th from AL-> 4 SR

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Hare Krishna

Dear Jay,

Greetings,,, need to see your chart ,,,you must have a great chart

for marraige,,,congratulations...that is a great thing nowadays.

I wanted to point out that The 3rd and 6th from the AL also indicate

our ambitions and what we do and or use to get what we want.That is

why malefics are good for material prosperity...it wont work it a

sadhu is aggressive,overly ambitious,cheats,or is in general forceful.

Another example- there are combinations for sadhus/saintly persons

that look alot like mental afflictions-but just so turns out that

same mental afflcition(sufferings/frustrations) in the chart of a

prediposed sadhu like person turn to higher thoughts(that is higher

form of malefic planets-when they give benefic results)

 

When In the chart of a non-religious person or one who doesnt show

religiousity or interest in spirituality- and 9th house affairs are

afflcited badly

then we can assume the person is just mentally afflcited.(along with

other clues)

so first we need to identify if the person IS a sadhu AND then see

what are the planets in 3rd and 6th.

Also isnt it possible to have a saintly person,who is attached to

wife,,there are so many combinations of qualities,

so there are two things,,, saintly person-who are good hearted,(act

like saints)

who havent renounced everything(mother Theresa didnt renounce many

things-she was using her position/image to help her cause) although

she lived like a sointly person and did saintly things) and then

there are

renunciates who have given up everything and are on a yogi like path.

Like controling the senses.

Anyway and some people try to give up everything ,, there are all

sorts of combinations for these things,.

so ideal is a person who is so naturally renounced(because he is more

attracted to higher goals) and also is a real saintly person...but

there is a place for all types in this world.

and no one is in the same path to liberation. Its an individual thing

of course.

Take Care,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:

> Dear Visti,

>

> Thanks for your kind and detailed reply.

> {A side-note: I have Venus in the 6th from AL and ... have no

intention to

> renounce my spouse of 22 years...}.

>

> Kind regards

> /Jay Weiss

>

>

> -

> "Visti Larsen" <balabhadra@j...>

> <>

> Wednesday, April 14, 2004 4:45 AM

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Can anyone

help me

> understand functional malefics? -> 4 SR

>

>

> > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > Dear List, Namaskar.

> > This problem applies to planets in 3rd, 6th, 9th and 12th, off

which

> > 3rd, 6th and 12th are the worst. Especially 6th from AL can give a

> > high level of spirituality, if the two Rajas Guna plant - Venus

and

> > Mercury are placed there.

> >

> > The reason being that the Apoklima houses from AL are presided by

> > alot of Tamas Guna, and this causes the destruction of any Rajas

or

> > Sattva Guna planets therein. Only the Tamas Guna planets will do

well

> > here, thats why Mars, Saturn an Rahu do extremely well in the 3rd

and

> > 6th from AL and give Raja Yoga. They can even do so in 9th and

12th,

> > but then you are protected by crooks (9th from AL) or all your

> > expenditure goes to keep crooks happy (12th from AL).

> >

> > Hence the basis is Gunas. Now the two Grahas keeping us in this

> > Samsara all the time are the Two Rajas Guna Grahas - Venus and

> > Mercury. Venus keeping our ties to spouses, relationships, etc.

> > whilst Mercury keeps our ties to work, karma yoga, etc.

> >

> > Observe these two Grahas very carefully in th charts of Sadhus,

> > either of Venus or Mercury should be placed in the Apoklimas from

AL.

> > And that too preferably in the 6th from AL just like Srila

> > Prabhupada, Swami Vivekananda, etc. In some cases you will find

only

> > either of the 2 in these positions, showing that the native still

has

> > a tie to soceity in some form or mannor. i.e. many people renounce

> > because they renounce work; Mercury, whilst others renounce

because

> > they renounce their relationships. I.e. Jayendra Saraswati

> > Sankaracharya is on such case, where the renunciation of spouse,

> > lovers, etc has become prevailent but he is still attached to his

> > karma Yoga... offcourse he needs todo alot of good work for

soceity,

> > hence that is a given.

> >

> > Hope this helps,

> > Best wishes, Visti.

> >

> > , "Ramapriya D" <hubli@h...>

wrote:

> > > Hi Jay,

> > >

> > > If I've to guess why Sanjay says so, it can be that Ve, a karaka

> > for both relationships and material pleasures, is in marana

avastha

> > in 6th. I know that the mks thing is from the lagna but I suppose

you

> > could make an analogous inference/interpretation from the AL too.

> > >

> > > Just my 0.02,

> > >

> > > Ramapriya

> > >

> > > -

> > > J. Weiss

> > >

> > > Sunday, April 11, 2004 1:22 PM

> > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Can anyone help me

understand

> > functional malefics? -> 4 SR

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sanjay,

> > >

> > > Can you please elaborate on WHY Venus in the 6th from AL is

bad

> > for relationships and material world ?

> > > (I relation to your article "Benefics and Malefics in the 6th

> > from AL").

> > >

> > > Kind regards

> > > /Jay Weiss

> > >

> >

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