Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Dear Vishnu, Thank you for responding. Layla is my daughter. I did not die early in her life though, of course, I would die for her if it were necessary. I would like to hear more about what would have caused the vipareeta ayur yoga not to fructify (is that the correct word?) Love, Gili >|| Hare Rama Krishna || >Madame Gilli, > >If Moon is indeed her atmakaraka, did her mother early? Atmakaraka in the >9th >constitutes a vipareeta ayur yoga. In this case the mother could have died >early >blessing this child with longevity. Could you confirm? > >The way you explained her character, i doubt if Moon in Aries makes sense. >Moon is >in junction point between Aries and Taurus. > >warm regards, >Vishnu > > > >--- gilimary alvey <lopamudraxxx wrote: > > > Dear All > > I’m attaching a chart of a 23 year old woman with kemadruma yoga. > > Raman - dirty, sorrowful, doing unrighteous deeds, poor, dependent, a >rogue > > and swindler. > > Charak – bereft of wealth, health, learning, wisdom, wife, progeny, >mental > > peace, reduces native to a pauper, suffers misery, failures, physical > > illness and humiliation > > > > In her chart there is only a tenuous ( in my opinion) cancellation. >These > > include (please someone advise if these are incorrect or incomplete):- > > 1. planets in kendras from lagna > > 2. planets in kendras from Moon. > > 3. all planets aspecting Moon > > 4. Moon or Venus occupying a Kendra and aspected by Jupiter > > 5. strong Moon in Kendra associated with or aspected by benefics >(mercury, > > Venus, Jupiter) > > 6. Moon associated with a benefic planet or located between two benefic > > planets and aspected by Jupiter > > 7. Moon occupying its exaltation sign or the house of a very friendly >planet > > in the navamsha and aspected by Jupiter > > 8. a full Moon occupying the lagna in conjunction with a benefic planet > > 9. Moon exalted in 10H and aspected by a benefic > > 10. at birth Mars and Jupiter are in Libra, Sun in Virgo and Moon in >Pisces > > > > > > In this chart Moon, who is atmakaraka, is in 9H Aries aspected by Venus >in > > Libra and AL and isolated from the rest of the planets. However, taking > > Moon as lagna Mars and Rahu are in 4H and Ketu in 10H. Is this enough >to > > cancel the kemadruma yoga? Mars is benefic for Leo lagna. Rahu and >Ketu??? > > Rahu is in 6H in rasi! > > In navamsha Moon is in 6H with Mars and Maandi. > > There is a vesi yoga (another planet, in this case Venus, is in 2H from >Sun) > > and ? also an Amarla yoga, if we can consider Ketu as a benefic in the >sense > > that it induces a good character. > > . > > vesi – fortunate, happy, virtuous, famous and aristocratic > > amala – spotless character , lead a prosperous life and have lasting >fame > > > > some details ofher life and nature > > She is quietly spoken but also quietly defiant. She hated school because >she > > felt she knew more than her teachers. She has a insatiably curious mind >and > > has the facilities to research and understand any subject she takes an > > interest in. Her measured IQ is 165. From age 14 she was home schooled >and > > began to take college credits in a vast and diverse range of subjects. > > Currently she is in Sweden studying biological psychology but this may > > change at a whim. (Her first language is English). > > She is an accomplished actress, singer, ballet dancer and musician >(piano > > and harp) and the stage was her intended career until the beginning of >Rahu > > Rahu dasha when she decided almost overnight to take up more academic > > pursuits. > > > > She is scrupulously honest – often to her own disadvantage and is non > > competitive. She was unpopular at school because she delighted in being > > ‘different’, in dress manner and interests. She is unforgiving of those >who > > she considers have betrayed her or let her down. Once she has made up >her > > mind it is pointless to argue with her. > > Her apartment is extraordinarily untidy but she is over- fastidious in > > personal hygiene. > > She is not interested in acquiring money or many possessions and is > > reluctant to get financial help from her parents. She is fiercely > > independent and could be described as poor. > > > > Her health so far is good and she is considered attractive (one reviewer > > described her as having a face like a Madonna - Venus with AL?) However >she > > does not consider herself to be pretty. She had acne as a teen. > > > > She does seem to bear a kind of sorrowfulness and is certainly not very > > lucky in life. She liked being on the stage because she said, “When I’m > > acting I’m not me”. She is also well aware of the sorrows of others. > > > > It seems that the kemadruma yoga has manifested to some degree but to be > > tempered somewhat. Wouldn’t most of the manifestations be in Moon dasha? > > > > Please, if any one wishes to make any comments or additions, I would be > > happy to hear them. > > Love, > > Gili > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Ramapriya D" <hubli > > > > > ><> > > >[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: [Achyuta Gurukul] please answer > > >Thu, 16 Sep 2004 06:55:13 +0400 > > > > > >Rajesh, > > >The internet is an intriguing, impersonal beast, so let it remain that >way. > > >Please don't use my name in the subject line, yeah? > > >My feel about children would be that you'll either not have them or > > >wouldn't get too much happiness from them even if you had. But you >should > > >take more reasoned takes from the experts hereabouts to either confirm >or > > >deny this. > > >Kemadruma is simple - when Mo has no grahas in the 2nd and 12th houses >from > > >where it is, kemadruma results. It isn't exactly a yoga we should like >to > > >have. > > >Cheers, > > >Ramapriya > > > > > > - > > > rajesh > > > > > > Wednesday, September 15, 2004 7:03 PM > > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] attn: >Ramapriya_D, > > >please answer > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramapriya > > > > > > > > > What about children, i could not understand your comments. > > > > > > Also, eloborate kemadruma yoga, i could not comrehend that. > > > thanks > > > > > > Rajesh > > > > _______________ > > Don’t just search. Find. 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Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 || Hare Rama Krishna || Madame Gilli, Thank you for the additional input. Obviously, Moon is not her AK and he is not in 9th but in the 10th. I will discuss this chart with my guru and let you know more. warm regards, Vishnu --- gilimary alvey <lopamudraxxx wrote: > Dear Vishnu, > Thank you for responding. Layla is my daughter. I did not die early in her > life though, of course, I would die for her if it were necessary. I would > like to hear more about what would have caused the vipareeta ayur yoga not > to fructify (is that the correct word?) > Love, > Gili > > >|| Hare Rama Krishna || > >Madame Gilli, > > > >If Moon is indeed her atmakaraka, did her mother early? Atmakaraka in the > >9th > >constitutes a vipareeta ayur yoga. In this case the mother could have died > >early > >blessing this child with longevity. Could you confirm? > > > >The way you explained her character, i doubt if Moon in Aries makes sense. > >Moon is > >in junction point between Aries and Taurus. > > > >warm regards, > >Vishnu > > > > > > > >--- gilimary alvey <lopamudraxxx wrote: > > > > > Dear All > > > I’m attaching a chart of a 23 year old woman with kemadruma yoga. > > > Raman - dirty, sorrowful, doing unrighteous deeds, poor, dependent, a > >rogue > > > and swindler. > > > Charak – bereft of wealth, health, learning, wisdom, wife, progeny, > >mental > > > peace, reduces native to a pauper, suffers misery, failures, physical > > > illness and humiliation > > > > > > In her chart there is only a tenuous ( in my opinion) cancellation. > >These > > > include (please someone advise if these are incorrect or incomplete):- > > > 1. planets in kendras from lagna > > > 2. planets in kendras from Moon. > > > 3. all planets aspecting Moon > > > 4. Moon or Venus occupying a Kendra and aspected by Jupiter > > > 5. strong Moon in Kendra associated with or aspected by benefics > >(mercury, > > > Venus, Jupiter) > > > 6. Moon associated with a benefic planet or located between two benefic > > > planets and aspected by Jupiter > > > 7. Moon occupying its exaltation sign or the house of a very friendly > >planet > > > in the navamsha and aspected by Jupiter > > > 8. a full Moon occupying the lagna in conjunction with a benefic planet > > > 9. Moon exalted in 10H and aspected by a benefic > > > 10. at birth Mars and Jupiter are in Libra, Sun in Virgo and Moon in > >Pisces > > > > > > > > > In this chart Moon, who is atmakaraka, is in 9H Aries aspected by Venus > >in > > > Libra and AL and isolated from the rest of the planets. However, taking > > > Moon as lagna Mars and Rahu are in 4H and Ketu in 10H. Is this enough > >to > > > cancel the kemadruma yoga? Mars is benefic for Leo lagna. Rahu and > >Ketu??? > > > Rahu is in 6H in rasi! > > > In navamsha Moon is in 6H with Mars and Maandi. > > > There is a vesi yoga (another planet, in this case Venus, is in 2H from > >Sun) > > > and ? also an Amarla yoga, if we can consider Ketu as a benefic in the > >sense > > > that it induces a good character. > > > . > > > vesi – fortunate, happy, virtuous, famous and aristocratic > > > amala – spotless character , lead a prosperous life and have lasting > >fame > > > > > > some details ofher life and nature > > > She is quietly spoken but also quietly defiant. She hated school because > >she > > > felt she knew more than her teachers. She has a insatiably curious mind > >and > > > has the facilities to research and understand any subject she takes an > > > interest in. Her measured IQ is 165. From age 14 she was home schooled > >and > > > began to take college credits in a vast and diverse range of subjects. > > > Currently she is in Sweden studying biological psychology but this may > > > change at a whim. (Her first language is English). > > > She is an accomplished actress, singer, ballet dancer and musician > >(piano > > > and harp) and the stage was her intended career until the beginning of > >Rahu > > > Rahu dasha when she decided almost overnight to take up more academic > > > pursuits. > > > > > > She is scrupulously honest – often to her own disadvantage and is non > > > competitive. She was unpopular at school because she delighted in being > > > ‘different’, in dress manner and interests. She is unforgiving of those > >who > > > she considers have betrayed her or let her down. Once she has made up > >her > > > mind it is pointless to argue with her. > > > Her apartment is extraordinarily untidy but she is over- fastidious in > > > personal hygiene. > > > She is not interested in acquiring money or many possessions and is > > > reluctant to get financial help from her parents. She is fiercely > > > independent and could be described as poor. > > > > > > Her health so far is good and she is considered attractive (one reviewer > > > described her as having a face like a Madonna - Venus with AL?) However > >she > > > does not consider herself to be pretty. She had acne as a teen. > > > > > > She does seem to bear a kind of sorrowfulness and is certainly not very > > > lucky in life. She liked being on the stage because she said, “When I’m > > > acting I’m not me”. She is also well aware of the sorrows of others. > > > > > > It seems that the kemadruma yoga has manifested to some degree but to be > > > tempered somewhat. Wouldn’t most of the manifestations be in Moon dasha? > > > > > > Please, if any one wishes to make any comments or additions, I would be > > > happy to hear them. > > > Love, > > > Gili > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Ramapriya D" <hubli > > > > > > > ><> > > > >[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: [Achyuta Gurukul] please answer > > > >Thu, 16 Sep 2004 06:55:13 +0400 > > > > > > > >Rajesh, > > > >The internet is an intriguing, impersonal beast, so let it remain that > >way. > > > >Please don't use my name in the subject line, yeah? > > > >My feel about children would be that you'll either not have them or > > > >wouldn't get too much happiness from them even if you had. But you > >should > > > >take more reasoned takes from the experts hereabouts to either confirm > >or > > > >deny this. > > > >Kemadruma is simple - when Mo has no grahas in the 2nd and 12th houses > >from > > > >where it is, kemadruma results. It isn't exactly a yoga we should like > >to > > > >have. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Ramapriya > > > > > > > > - > > > > rajesh > > > > > > > > Wednesday, September 15, 2004 7:03 PM > > > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] attn: > >Ramapriya_D, > > > >please answer > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramapriya > > > > > > > > > > > > What about children, i could not understand your comments. > > > > > > > > Also, eloborate kemadruma yoga, i could not comrehend that. > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > _______________ > > > Don’t just search. Find. 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Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Thank you for following up on this. I was awake and aware at her birth. To have Mercury as AK and Moon in 10 she would have had to have been born an hour later. I don't understand this unless I have not allowed for daylight saving. Love, Gili ( please just call me gili : )) ) >Vishnu Jandhyala <jvk1305 > > >CC: lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh >Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] kemadruma yoga, vipareeta ayur yoga >Sat, 18 Sep 2004 06:57:18 -0700 (PDT) > > >|| Hare Rama Krishna || > >Madame Gilli, > >Thank you for the additional input. Obviously, Moon is not her AK and he is >not in >9th but in the 10th. I will discuss this chart with my guru and let you >know more. > >warm regards, >Vishnu > > >--- gilimary alvey <lopamudraxxx wrote: > > > Dear Vishnu, > > Thank you for responding. Layla is my daughter. I did not die early in >her > > life though, of course, I would die for her if it were necessary. I >would > > like to hear more about what would have caused the vipareeta ayur yoga >not > > to fructify (is that the correct word?) > > Love, > > Gili > > > > >|| Hare Rama Krishna || > > >Madame Gilli, > > > > > >If Moon is indeed her atmakaraka, did her mother early? Atmakaraka in >the > > >9th > > >constitutes a vipareeta ayur yoga. In this case the mother could have >died > > >early > > >blessing this child with longevity. Could you confirm? > > > > > >The way you explained her character, i doubt if Moon in Aries makes >sense. > > >Moon is > > >in junction point between Aries and Taurus. > > > > > >warm regards, > > >Vishnu > > > > > > > > > > > >--- gilimary alvey <lopamudraxxx wrote: > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > I’m attaching a chart of a 23 year old woman with kemadruma yoga. > > > > Raman - dirty, sorrowful, doing unrighteous deeds, poor, dependent, >a > > >rogue > > > > and swindler. > > > > Charak – bereft of wealth, health, learning, wisdom, wife, progeny, > > >mental > > > > peace, reduces native to a pauper, suffers misery, failures, >physical > > > > illness and humiliation > > > > > > > > In her chart there is only a tenuous ( in my opinion) cancellation. > > >These > > > > include (please someone advise if these are incorrect or >incomplete):- > > > > 1. planets in kendras from lagna > > > > 2. planets in kendras from Moon. > > > > 3. all planets aspecting Moon > > > > 4. Moon or Venus occupying a Kendra and aspected by Jupiter > > > > 5. strong Moon in Kendra associated with or aspected by benefics > > >(mercury, > > > > Venus, Jupiter) > > > > 6. Moon associated with a benefic planet or located between two >benefic > > > > planets and aspected by Jupiter > > > > 7. Moon occupying its exaltation sign or the house of a very >friendly > > >planet > > > > in the navamsha and aspected by Jupiter > > > > 8. a full Moon occupying the lagna in conjunction with a benefic >planet > > > > 9. Moon exalted in 10H and aspected by a benefic > > > > 10. at birth Mars and Jupiter are in Libra, Sun in Virgo and Moon in > > >Pisces > > > > > > > > > > > > In this chart Moon, who is atmakaraka, is in 9H Aries aspected by >Venus > > >in > > > > Libra and AL and isolated from the rest of the planets. However, >taking > > > > Moon as lagna Mars and Rahu are in 4H and Ketu in 10H. Is this >enough > > >to > > > > cancel the kemadruma yoga? Mars is benefic for Leo lagna. Rahu and > > >Ketu??? > > > > Rahu is in 6H in rasi! > > > > In navamsha Moon is in 6H with Mars and Maandi. > > > > There is a vesi yoga (another planet, in this case Venus, is in 2H >from > > >Sun) > > > > and ? also an Amarla yoga, if we can consider Ketu as a benefic in >the > > >sense > > > > that it induces a good character. > > > > . > > > > vesi – fortunate, happy, virtuous, famous and aristocratic > > > > amala – spotless character , lead a prosperous life and have lasting > > >fame > > > > > > > > some details ofher life and nature > > > > She is quietly spoken but also quietly defiant. She hated school >because > > >she > > > > felt she knew more than her teachers. She has a insatiably curious >mind > > >and > > > > has the facilities to research and understand any subject she takes >an > > > > interest in. Her measured IQ is 165. From age 14 she was home >schooled > > >and > > > > began to take college credits in a vast and diverse range of >subjects. > > > > Currently she is in Sweden studying biological psychology but this >may > > > > change at a whim. (Her first language is English). > > > > She is an accomplished actress, singer, ballet dancer and musician > > >(piano > > > > and harp) and the stage was her intended career until the beginning >of > > >Rahu > > > > Rahu dasha when she decided almost overnight to take up more >academic > > > > pursuits. > > > > > > > > She is scrupulously honest – often to her own disadvantage and is >non > > > > competitive. She was unpopular at school because she delighted in >being > > > > ‘different’, in dress manner and interests. She is unforgiving of >those > > >who > > > > she considers have betrayed her or let her down. Once she has made >up > > >her > > > > mind it is pointless to argue with her. > > > > Her apartment is extraordinarily untidy but she is over- fastidious >in > > > > personal hygiene. > > > > She is not interested in acquiring money or many possessions and is > > > > reluctant to get financial help from her parents. She is fiercely > > > > independent and could be described as poor. > > > > > > > > Her health so far is good and she is considered attractive (one >reviewer > > > > described her as having a face like a Madonna - Venus with AL?) >However > > >she > > > > does not consider herself to be pretty. She had acne as a teen. > > > > > > > > She does seem to bear a kind of sorrowfulness and is certainly not >very > > > > lucky in life. She liked being on the stage because she said, “When >I’m > > > > acting I’m not me”. She is also well aware of the sorrows of others. > > > > > > > > It seems that the kemadruma yoga has manifested to some degree but >to be > > > > tempered somewhat. Wouldn’t most of the manifestations be in Moon >dasha? > > > > > > > > Please, if any one wishes to make any comments or additions, I would >be > > > > happy to hear them. > > > > Love, > > > > Gili > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Ramapriya D" <hubli > > > > > > > > > ><> > > > > >[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: [Achyuta Gurukul] please answer > > > > >Thu, 16 Sep 2004 06:55:13 +0400 > > > > > > > > > >Rajesh, > > > > >The internet is an intriguing, impersonal beast, so let it remain >that > > >way. > > > > >Please don't use my name in the subject line, yeah? > > > > >My feel about children would be that you'll either not have them or > > > > >wouldn't get too much happiness from them even if you had. But you > > >should > > > > >take more reasoned takes from the experts hereabouts to either >confirm > > >or > > > > >deny this. > > > > >Kemadruma is simple - when Mo has no grahas in the 2nd and 12th >houses > > >from > > > > >where it is, kemadruma results. It isn't exactly a yoga we should >like > > >to > > > > >have. > > > > >Cheers, > > > > >Ramapriya > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > rajesh > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, September 15, 2004 7:03 PM > > > > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] attn: > > >Ramapriya_D, > > > > >please answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramapriya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What about children, i could not understand your comments. > > > > > > > > > > Also, eloborate kemadruma yoga, i could not comrehend that. > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > > Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > > > > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream name=layla.jhd > > > > > > > > > > > >===== > > >||Om akhandala mandalaa kaaram > > > vyaaptam yena charaa charam > > > tatpadam darsitam yena > > > tasmai sri gurave namaha || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > >Send a blank mail > > >=== message truncated === > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream name=gili.7.30.jhd > > > >===== >||Om akhandala mandalaa kaaram > vyaaptam yena charaa charam > tatpadam darsitam yena > tasmai sri gurave namaha || > > > > > >Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. >http://messenger. > > > >[Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] >Send a blank mail >To : - >To : > Links > > > > > > > _______________ Don’t just search. Find. 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