Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Nisha, Allow me to jump in! i just tried to answer one question of yours. (In Caps) xcuse me writing in caps(i am not trying to shout),as writing from the web formatting is not possible! regards viswanadham , "nisha malik" <nisha1970@h...> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah Om Namah Shivaye > > > Dear Mr Mahendra, > > You are completely right this is one of the best articles I have read on this highly debatable topic so much so it remains saved on my hard disc. > > But it does not put and end to debate and is infact a beginning to a lot of questions an astrologer (specially a student)encounters. > > How does one relate to the present karma a native is doing in this birth.Can astrology really explain what the individual is doing in this birth..isn't freewill already defined in the chart ...i.e. the ability to the right karma and the course to spiritual evolution already laid down.Then where is free will. > INDEED A VERY NICE ARTICLE. IT SAYS THAT KARMA IS A RESULT OF EXCERSISE OF OUR FREE WILL IN OUR PAST LIFE (s).THE ARTICLE MAKES A FINE DISTINCTION BETWEEN 'VASANAS' AND 'KARMA'. USING FREE WILL ONE CAN CHANGE 'VASANAS'. SO IF I AM TELLING LIES, I DO NOT HAVE TO SAY THAT IT IS MY KARMA! HERE 'EFFORTS'IS THE KEY WORD. WHAT I FEEL NEEDS TO BE DEFINED IS THE WORD 'I', 'MY' etc. THEN we can understand FREE WILL IS OF who and why WE ARE GETTING BOUNDED BY KARMA (WHICH IS CREATED BY OUR EXCERCISE OF FREE WILL). If 'i' is our mind & body, then we are getting bounded. SO IT BECOMES IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE GATI OF OUR ATMA! (AK & ISHTA COME IN HERE). WHEN YOU USE YOUR FREE WILL (TO CHANGE YOUR 'VASANAS') TO FOLLOW YOUR ATMA's GATI, THEN YOUR FREE WILL IS TRULY FREED! THIS LEADS TO MOKSHA. (ALSO READ 'COMING BACK' BY BHAKTI VEDANTA BOOK TRUST). 9TH HOUSE SIGNIFIES, WHY A SAINT IS A SAINT, WHEREAS 5TH HOUSE IS THE KEY FOR A SINNER - TO KNOW WHAT IS THE FUTURE? (BOTH ARE IN DHARMA TRIKONA) YES GOD IS EVER SO KIND! EVERY BIT OF ADVANCEMENT TOWARDS SPIRITUALITY IS ADDED & NOTHING IS SUBTRACTED, TO QUALIFY ONE FOR ANOTHER HUMAN LIFE, TO MAKE ONE MORE ATTEMPT AT 'MOKSHA', till the Goal is achieved! HE does not punish anyone, coming back to Bhu loka is itself a punishment! THEN THERE ARE 800,000+ SPECIES ON THIS EARTH AND TAKING BIRTH AS ANY ONE OF THEM IS A PUNISHMENT. STARTING ALL OVER AGAIN!! IS IT NOT TRUE THAT WE SUBTLY WORK TO CREATE ANOTHER BODY FOR OUR FUTURE LIFE, AND THEN ANOTHER BODY, AND THEN YET ANOTHER BODY... AND THEN GRIEVE THAT WE ARE BOUNDED BY KARMA. (you can see the free will working here to bind us!) SO FREE WILL does EXIST, how it works DEPENDS ON, HOW WE DEFINE 'i' & its goal. Simply put, you want liberation or you want to be bounded by karma? Unfortunately,liberation in pratical life is less enticing than the other alternative. This is 'maya'! Yes Astrologers are also within the boundaries of 'maya'. (We need to think why the qualifications for an astrologer are so stiff!). i'll stop here. > If there is free will(which I personally feel is there) then...astrology paves the way to eternal bliss > > How many times does a practicing astrologer relate this back to the advise he/she gives on a practical level.Yes there is talk about remedies prayers devotion to Isht Dev ...but don't most practicising astrologers neglect good old advise on ethics principal right /wrong (in essence good and bad karma) which is the sacred thread the creation is woven from(and in fact the warp and weft of astrology).Didn't God create this entire cycle for jeev to evolve and be close with him paramatma and Jyotish the divine science to give an inkling how to achieve this...... > > Are not relationships defined by rinbandhans ,aspirations by left over wishes from last birth ,talents as blessing from the past .A simple explanation on the same help would help most people .......in not only coming to terms with circumstances in this life but evolve as better and happier individuals in future lives and follow this karmic evolution. > > Simply put why run from the lesson one is supposed to learn ,let life it be your teacher,but no matter what do the right thing don't fail yr ideals ,put the right effort ..don't give up on people or relationships ..... be patient .and smile when miracles happen. > > Yes they do ...... and that's gods prerogative .. > > "Kar Bhala to Ho Bhala" > > Regards > Nisha Malik > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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