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Dear

Rafal, Namaskar.

Brhat

Parasara Hora Shastra has in its last chapters various Yogas for determining

curses. An abridged version of this has been presented first at the West Coast

Conference 2002, try to get the mp3’s from Lakshmi, or refer to the

email-archives of this list.

Hope this

helps.

Best wishes,

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Dear Visti'ji

Thank You for this important rules.

Can You say in simple way how to determine that we

are cursed ?

How we see planet which signify curse.

i hope this doesnt'bother.

yhs rafal

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Lakshmi, Namaskar.

>

> Try this – identify the planets in the

Rasi which are causing

curses.

>

> i.e. in Guruji's chart, Jupiter is causing

the curse.

>

> Next identify the malefics which indicate the

experience of the

curse.

>

> i.e. in Guruji's chart, Mars and Saturn are

aspecting the Jupiter

in Lagna,

> to cause the curse.

>

> Look at these planets in the D-60 from Ärüòha

Lagna to see what

you did to

> cause the curse!

>

> i.e. Jupiter in this case will show what

happened to the Brahmin

who gave

> the curse.

>

> Mars and Saturn's placement from AL in the D-60 will

indicate what

he did to

> get the curse.

>

> See the same placement from D-60 Lagna to

find what he must

experience in

> this life as a result.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> lakshmi ramesh

[b_lakshmi_ramesh]

> 27 October 2004 01:32

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] retro

planets/past life

>

> Om Gurave

Namah

>

> Namaste Visti,

>

> In Guruji's D-60 chart, Saturn is the 7th

lord and is placed in

the 12th

> from D-60 lagna, which again happens to be

Gemini, thus

establishing a

> karmic pattern which can not be ignored.

Would not this also

indicate

> problems in the area of marriage/relationships

and associations?

>

> Regards,

>

> Lakshmi

>

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Hari, Namaskar

>

> Answers below.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> Hari M [onlyhari]

> 26 October 2004 12:27

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] retro

planets/past life

>

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Namaste.

>

> (1) Karaka: is that restricted to naisargika

or do we include

chara as well?

>

> [Visti] When analyzing a Bhdva, we are

concerned about Naisargika

Kdrakatva.

> But that doesnt mean you should not

ignore the Chara Kdrakatva

that will

> show the issue.

>

> I.e. in Guruji Sanjay Raths chart,

the 4th house is occupied by

Rdhu

> causing Kapata Yoga, where one is deceived by

others. Rdhu is

Darakaraka, so

> the issues will be money and

relationships basically everything

Lakshmi

> and he will be deceived in these matters.

This happened in the

Kala Chakra

> Dasa of Taurus Gemini, Gemini housing

Rdhu and causing the Kapata

Yoga.

>

> (2) Do we not see the house where the retro

planet is situated to

find out

> the link with other people? Eg: retro planet

in 7th house could

mean the

> spouse also has similar influence on the 7th

house as well (either

7L is

> retro or retro planet in 7th house etc).

>

> [Visti] If I again cite the above example,

then why didnt Guruji

get

> deceived by his mother? Grahas indicate

people and houses indicate

the

> impact those people have on you. Rdhu lords

the 12th house

indicating secret

> enemies, and in Aquarius 5th lord Moon is

placed, which indicates

that

> students or children may scheme against the

person. Karaka for

students

> Mercury is placed in the 6th house from Lagna

whilst Jupiter is in

the

> Lagna, hence the prediction can be given that

students will

perform the

> cheating.

>

> (3) How far do you to this theory

of mapping 1 year to

each day

> the planet is retrograde after the time of

birth? Eg: if a planet

is

> retrograde for say 100 days after birth, that

would mean the

retrograde

> effects last for approx 100 years.

>

> [Visti] Saturn, Mars and Jupiter will all be

retrograde for a time

period of

> 4 months at a time, i.e. approx 120 days,

which is the natural

lifespan of

> human beings. Naturally the amount of days

before ones retrograde

planet

> goes direct will be 120 days or less, and

hence it would make

sense to

> attribute this calculation to find when

retrograde planets will

act direct

> in a chart. But what does one do incase of

Venus and Mercury?

>

> (4) Is it possible that retro planets would

give results faster

than usual?

> If yes, under what conditions?

>

> [Visti] Retro planets have a very strong

desire to get things

done hence

> the actions of a person under the influence

of a retrograde Dasa

will be

> very focused on the goal. In a way you can

say it will be attained

faster

> but that is a relative question. Usually

retrograde planets tend

to give

> something initially and then take it away

later i.e. cause

denial. Incase

> of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, he had lagna lord

exalted in the 9th

house

> showing a person who could have enjoyed an

almost kingly stature.

Now does

> that sound like a man who used his hair to

clean the bathroom

floor? Nope it

> doesnt and lagna lord was indeed

retrograde in his chart.

>

> regards

>

> Hari

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Vishwanatham, Namaskar

>

> Analyze in 2 steps;

>

> 1) Karaka

>

> 2)

Lordship

>

> I.e. if Jupiter is retrograde, then also

analyze 5th lord to see

whether the

> problem is in the area of children. Otherwise

see the lordship of

Jupiter

> and the Karakas of the house which

Jupiter lords.

>

> If both the Karaka and the lordship have a

dosha, then make your

prediction.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

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October 27, 2004

dEAR Visti Ji!

Namaskar,

I know they are some Yogas for curse, but If i remember

You said somewhere that where are 2 malefics it's signify curse,

when i have mars-ketu in 7 or sat-sun in 5 it signify 2 curses

and i can go ahead to d-60 for this ?

Or i should only follow parasara yogas ?

with respect,

rafal

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, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

>

> Brhat Parasara Hora Shastra has in its last chapters various Yogas

for

> determining curses. An abridged version of this has been presented

first at

> the West Coast Conference 2002, try to get the mp3's from Lakshmi,

or refer

> to the email-archives of this list.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

_____

>

> jyotraff [jyotraff]

> 27 October 2004 12:25

>

> Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] retro planets/past life - to

Visti Ji

>

> Dear Visti'ji

>

> Thank You for this important rules.

> Can You say in simple way how to determine that we are cursed ?

> How we see planet which signify curse.

>

> i hope this doesnt'bother.

> yhs rafal

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > |Hare Rama Krsna|

> >

> > Dear Lakshmi, Namaskar.

> >

> > Try this – identify the planets in the Rasi which are causing

> curses.

> >

> > i.e. in Guruji's chart, Jupiter is causing the curse.

> >

> > Next identify the malefics which indicate the experience of the

> curse.

> >

> > i.e. in Guruji's chart, Mars and Saturn are aspecting the

Jupiter

> in Lagna,

> > to cause the curse.

> >

> > Look at these planets in the D-60 from Ärüòha Lagna to see what

> you did to

> > cause the curse!

> >

> > i.e. Jupiter in this case will show what happened to the Brahmin

> who gave

> > the curse.

> >

> > Mars and Saturn's placement from AL in the D-60 will indicate

what

> he did to

> > get the curse.

> >

> > See the same placement from D-60 Lagna to find what he must

> experience in

> > this life as a result.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > lakshmi ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh]

> > 27 October 2004 01:32

> >

> > RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] retro planets/past life

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Visti,

> >

> > In Guruji's D-60 chart, Saturn is the 7th lord and is placed in

> the 12th

> > from D-60 lagna, which again happens to be Gemini, thus

> establishing a

> > karmic pattern which can not be ignored. Would not this also

> indicate

> > problems in the area of marriage/relationships and associations?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Lakshmi

> >

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krsna|

> >

> > Dear Hari, Namaskar

> >

> > Answers below.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Hari M [onlyhari]

> > 26 October 2004 12:27

> >

> > RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] retro planets/past life

> >

> > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > (1) Karaka: is that restricted to naisargika or do we include

> chara as well?

> >

> > [Visti] When analyzing a Bhdva, we are concerned about

Naisargika

> Kdrakatva.

> > But that doesnt mean you should not ignore the Chara Kdrakatva

> that will

> > show the issue.

> >

> > I.e. in Guruji Sanjay Raths chart, the 4th house is occupied

by

> Rdhu

> > causing Kapata Yoga, where one is deceived by others. Rdhu is

> Darakaraka, so

> > the issues will be money and relationships basically everything

> Lakshmi

> > and he will be deceived in these matters. This happened in the

> Kala Chakra

> > Dasa of Taurus Gemini, Gemini housing Rdhu and causing the

Kapata

> Yoga.

> >

> > (2) Do we not see the house where the retro planet is situated

to

> find out

> > the link with other people? Eg: retro planet in 7th house could

> mean the

> > spouse also has similar influence on the 7th house as well

(either

> 7L is

> > retro or retro planet in 7th house etc).

> >

> > [Visti] If I again cite the above example, then why didnt

Guruji

> get

> > deceived by his mother? Grahas indicate people and houses

indicate

> the

> > impact those people have on you. Rdhu lords the 12th house

> indicating secret

> > enemies, and in Aquarius 5th lord Moon is placed, which

indicates

> that

> > students or children may scheme against the person. Karaka for

> students

> > Mercury is placed in the 6th house from Lagna whilst Jupiter is

in

> the

> > Lagna, hence the prediction can be given that students will

> perform the

> > cheating.

> >

> > (3) How far do you to this theory of mapping 1 year to

> each day

> > the planet is retrograde after the time of birth? Eg: if a

planet

> is

> > retrograde for say 100 days after birth, that would mean the

> retrograde

> > effects last for approx 100 years.

> >

> > [Visti] Saturn, Mars and Jupiter will all be retrograde for a

time

> period of

> > 4 months at a time, i.e. approx 120 days, which is the natural

> lifespan of

> > human beings. Naturally the amount of days before ones

retrograde

> planet

> > goes direct will be 120 days or less, and hence it would make

> sense to

> > attribute this calculation to find when retrograde planets will

> act direct

> > in a chart. But what does one do incase of Venus and Mercury?

> >

> > (4) Is it possible that retro planets would give results faster

> than usual?

> > If yes, under what conditions?

> >

> > [Visti] Retro planets have a very strong desire to get things

> done hence

> > the actions of a person under the influence of a retrograde Dasa

> will be

> > very focused on the goal. In a way you can say it will be

attained

> faster

> > but that is a relative question. Usually retrograde planets tend

> to give

> > something initially and then take it away later i.e. cause

> denial. Incase

> > of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, he had lagna lord exalted in the 9th

> house

> > showing a person who could have enjoyed an almost kingly

stature.

> Now does

> > that sound like a man who used his hair to clean the bathroom

> floor? Nope it

> > doesnt and lagna lord was indeed retrograde in his chart.

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Hari

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krsna|

> >

> > Dear Vishwanatham, Namaskar

> >

> > Analyze in 2 steps;

> >

> > 1) Karaka

> >

> > 2) Lordship

> >

> > I.e. if Jupiter is retrograde, then also analyze 5th lord to see

> whether the

> > problem is in the area of children. Otherwise see the lordship

of

> Jupiter

> > and the Karakas of the house which Jupiter lords.

> >

> > If both the Karaka and the lordship have a dosha, then make your

> prediction.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> > _____

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|Hare

Rama Krsna|

Dear

Rafal, Namaskar

I’m

sure one person on this list will be able to provide you with a thorough

documentation about seeing curses in a chart, and upload it somewhere for

future reference of other students.

Best wishes,

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Re: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] retro planets/past life - to Visti Ji

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dEAR Visti Ji!

Namaskar,

I know they are some Yogas for curse, but If i

remember

You said somewhere that where are 2 malefics it's

signify curse,

when i have mars-ketu in 7 or sat-sun in 5 it

signify 2 curses

and i can go ahead to d-60 for this ?

Or i should only follow parasara yogas ?

with respect,

rafal

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

>

> Brhat Parasara Hora Shastra has in its last

chapters various Yogas

for

> determining curses. An abridged version of

this has been presented

first at

> the West Coast Conference 2002, try to get

the mp3's from Lakshmi,

or refer

> to the email-archives of this list.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> jyotraff [jyotraff]

> 27 October 2004 12:25

>

> Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] retro

planets/past life - to

Visti Ji

>

> Dear Visti'ji

>

> Thank You for this important rules.

> Can You say in simple way how to determine

that we are cursed ?

> How we see planet which signify curse.

>

> i hope this doesnt'bother.

> yhs rafal

>

> ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > |Hare Rama Krsna|

> >

> > Dear Lakshmi, Namaskar.

> >

> > Try this – identify the planets in

the Rasi which are causing

> curses.

> >

> > i.e. in Guruji's chart, Jupiter is

causing the curse.

> >

> > Next identify the malefics which

indicate the experience of the

> curse.

> >

> > i.e. in Guruji's chart, Mars and Saturn

are aspecting the

Jupiter

> in Lagna,

> > to cause the curse.

> >

> > Look at these planets in the D-60 from

Ärüòha Lagna to see what

> you did to

> > cause the curse!

> >

> > i.e. Jupiter in this case will show what

happened to the Brahmin

> who gave

> > the curse.

> >

> > Mars and Saturn's placement from AL in the D-60 will

indicate

what

> he did to

> > get the curse.

> >

> > See the same placement from D-60 Lagna

to find what he must

> experience in

> > this life as a result.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > lakshmi ramesh

[b_lakshmi_ramesh]

> > 27 October 2004 01:32

> >

> > RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul]

retro planets/past life

> >

> > Om

Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Visti,

> >

> > In Guruji's D-60 chart, Saturn is the

7th lord and is placed in

> the 12th

> > from D-60 lagna, which again happens to

be Gemini, thus

> establishing a

> > karmic pattern which can not be ignored.

Would not this also

> indicate

> > problems in the area of

marriage/relationships and associations?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Lakshmi

> >

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krsna|

> >

> > Dear Hari, Namaskar

> >

> > Answers below.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Hari M [onlyhari]

> > 26 October 2004 12:27

> >

> > RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul]

retro planets/past life

> >

> > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > (1) Karaka: is that restricted to

naisargika or do we include

> chara as well?

> >

> > [Visti] When analyzing a Bhdva, we are

concerned about

Naisargika

> Kdrakatva.

> > But that doesnt mean you should not

ignore the Chara Kdrakatva

> that will

> > show the issue.

> >

> > I.e. in Guruji Sanjay Raths

chart, the 4th house is occupied

by

> Rdhu

> > causing Kapata Yoga, where one is

deceived by others. Rdhu is

> Darakaraka, so

> > the issues will be money and

relationships basically everything

> Lakshmi

> > and he will be deceived in these

matters. This happened in the

> Kala Chakra

> > Dasa of Taurus Gemini, Gemini

housing Rdhu and causing the

Kapata

> Yoga.

> >

> > (2) Do we not see the house where the

retro planet is situated

to

> find out

> > the link with other people? Eg: retro

planet in 7th house could

> mean the

> > spouse also has similar influence on the

7th house as well

(either

> 7L is

> > retro or retro planet in 7th house etc).

> >

> > [Visti] If I again cite the above example,

then why didnt

Guruji

> get

> > deceived by his mother? Grahas indicate

people and houses

indicate

> the

> > impact those people have on you. Rdhu

lords the 12th house

> indicating secret

> > enemies, and in Aquarius 5th lord Moon

is placed, which

indicates

> that

> > students or children may scheme against

the person. Karaka for

> students

> > Mercury is placed in the 6th house from

Lagna whilst Jupiter is

in

> the

> > Lagna, hence the prediction can be given

that students will

> perform the

> > cheating.

> >

> > (3) How far do you to this

theory of mapping 1 year to

> each day

> > the planet is retrograde after the time

of birth? Eg: if a

planet

> is

> > retrograde for say 100 days after birth,

that would mean the

> retrograde

> > effects last for approx 100 years.

> >

> > [Visti] Saturn, Mars and Jupiter will

all be retrograde for a

time

> period of

> > 4 months at a time, i.e. approx 120

days, which is the natural

> lifespan of

> > human beings. Naturally the amount of

days before ones

retrograde

> planet

> > goes direct will be 120 days or less,

and hence it would make

> sense to

> > attribute this calculation to find when

retrograde planets will

> act direct

> > in a chart. But what does one do incase

of Venus and Mercury?

> >

> > (4) Is it possible that retro planets

would give results faster

> than usual?

> > If yes, under what conditions?

> >

> > [Visti] Retro planets have a very strong

desire to get things

> done hence

> > the actions of a person under the

influence of a retrograde Dasa

> will be

> > very focused on the goal. In a way you

can say it will be

attained

> faster

> > but that is a relative question. Usually

retrograde planets tend

> to give

> > something initially and then take it away

later i.e. cause

> denial. Incase

> > of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, he had lagna

lord exalted in the 9th

> house

> > showing a person who could have enjoyed

an almost kingly

stature.

> Now does

> > that sound like a man who used his hair

to clean the bathroom

> floor? Nope it

> > doesnt and lagna lord was

indeed retrograde in his chart.

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Hari

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krsna|

> >

> > Dear Vishwanatham, Namaskar

> >

> > Analyze in 2 steps;

> >

> > 1)

Karaka

> >

> > 2)

Lordship

> >

> > I.e. if Jupiter is retrograde, then also

analyze 5th lord to see

> whether the

> > problem is in the area of children.

Otherwise see the lordship

of

> Jupiter

> > and the Karakas of the house which

Jupiter lords.

> >

> > If both the Karaka and the lordship have

a dosha, then make your

> prediction.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

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