[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] retro planets/past life-Vargottam Planets

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Hello AR,

 

Would you please elaborate what that rule is ? I know of a chart

(the same whose exampleI have been quoting) has retrograde jupiter

in 5th house in trine with sun inlagna.To add further in navamsa

both the sun and retrograde jupiter are vargottam and hence again in

trine.What is the significance of this particular combination?

 

Regarding Vargottam planets I had another query.I read in one of Pt

Sanjay Rath's lectures that if a planet is vargottam in some

particular number of divisional charts then the person is said to

have 'passed'the test of that planet.I would appreciate if anyone

would elaborate upon this rule.

 

, "A.R." <bonamente108>

wrote:

> Dear Visti,

> I am nor sure I understood you properly- for ex- the RULE is that

Ju is always retrograde when in TRINE with the Sun which is highly

desirable/beneficial case- if exact, or almost so, it will be conj.

in Nav. So, where/and why/ is negative conotation coming from- as I

have perceived- please clarify.

> Regards,

> A.

>

>

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > |Hare Rama Krsna|

> >

> > Dear Vishwanatham, Namaskar

> >

> > Analyze in 2 steps;

> >

> > 1) Karaka

> >

> > 2) Lordship

> >

> >

> >

> > I.e. if Jupiter is retrograde, then also analyze 5th lord to see

> whether the

> > problem is in the area of children. Otherwise see the lordship

of

> Jupiter

> > and the Karaka's of the house which Jupiter lords.

> >

> >

> >

> > If both the Karaka and the lordship have a dosha, then make your

> prediction.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > vishwanatham [vishwanatham@r...]

> > 26 October 2004 05:26

> >

> > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] retro planets/past life

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Dear Suchitra,

> >

> > Good question.

> >

> > Look at the naisargika karakatwa of the planet. In case of

Jupiter,

> > say children.

> >

> > Second is look at the 7th from the planet. That is because we

are

> > talking of desires(7th house) and every planet(except moksha

karaka

> > Ketu) gives 7th house aspect! The retrograde planet will give

> results

> > in the area of that house, which is in the 7th from it. This

also

> > explains, why a retrograde planet acts as debilitated, when in

> > exaltation sign and vice-versa.

> >

> > Generally, retro planets give results very late, after a lot of

> > effort! There was an exchange of mails a couple of weeks ago.

> Please

> > have a look at them.

> >

> > In case of a retro Jupiter, the native may have lot of desire

for

> > having children and adopt modern methods (unconventional, which

is

> > not a Jupiterian trait, rather like a Rahu!) to obtain children.

(i

> > am not judging any one here)

> >

> > Atmakaraka is a different thing. Car owner (jeevatma) is going

> > wherever the driver (mind) is taking. Car itself is like the

lagna,

> > which the driver is more concerned about, because here the owner

is

> a

> > silent spectator! Try to understand retrograde planets, without

> > getting into AK, which is like a King's desire, overrides

> everything

> > else.

> >

> > Hope this helps.

> >

> > regards

> > viswanadham

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , "suchitra_kamath"

> > <suchitra_kamath> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello Viswanatham,

> > >

> > > I want to clarify myself from whatever I understood from your

> > > explanation.

> > > Suppose a person has retrograde Jupiter(house 5) and Mercury

> (House

> > > 1/Lagna).However the atmakarak is a NON retrograde MArs,then

> should

> > > the interpretation for desire of atma be taken as if Jupiter

and

> > > Mercury are also atmakarak other than Mars ?

> > >

> > > An atmakarak Jupietr would mean caring for family.

> > > An atmakarak Mercury wouldmena trying to speak truth always.

> > >

> > > So is the atma desiring this or has the desire to do with

> someother

> > > thing which would be related to these planets say knowledge

for

> > > Jupiter ?

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Suchitra

> > > , "gilimary alvey"

> > > <lopamudraxxx@h...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Vishwanathan,

> > > > Yes. That is how I understood it too. Thanks for

explaining

> it

> > > so well to

> > > > us all.

> > > > Love,

> > > > Gili

> > > >

> > > > >"vishwanatham" <vishwanatham@r...>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: retro planets/past life

> > > > >Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:42:41 -0000

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > >Dear Gili & others,

> > > > >

> > > > >It has been said by Guruji & others, like Visti, that Retro

> > > planets

> > > > >are more like the Nodes.

> > > > >

> > > > >The path of Sun & Moon is followed by planets when they are

in

> > > > >forward motion.

> > > > >

> > > > >This also explains why Rahu & Ketu in Vedic astrology are

> > *always*

> > > > >retro.

> > > > >

> > > > >While Ketu points to moksha, it is implied that the birth

> occured

> > > > >because moksha did not take place. It is understandable to

> most

> > > that

> > > > >Rahu is a karmic planet.

> > > > >

> > > > >So it is retro planets, which act like Rahu. It is

unfulfilled

> > > > >desires, which carry us from one life to another.. it is

Rahu

> > > giving

> > > > >us a new birth (Varaha avatara resurrecting the earth,

> symbolises

> > > > >rebirth), which is always opposing Ketu sitting in the 7th

> house.

> > > > >

> > > > >The logic for rebirth, pointing to the retro planets (apart

> from

> > > > >Rahu), is clear i think.

> > > > >

> > > > >This is only my loud thinking.

> > > > >

> > > > >Thanks & regards

> > > > >viswanadham

> > > > >, "gilimary alvey"

> > > > ><lopamudraxxx@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > I heard Sanjay say once that retro planets are strong

> desires

> > > from

> > > > >past

> > > > > > life. Perhaps we should check with him.

> > > > > > Love,

> > > > > > Gili

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >"Ramapriya D" <hubli@h...>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > ><>

> > > > > > >Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta

Gurukul]

> Re:

> > > > >Achyuta

> > > > > > >Gurukul] Retrograde exalted saturn in 6th House

> > > > > > >Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:04:06 +0400

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Hi there Pratibha,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >I've heard that too. Kind of adds up, isn't it? Karmic

> > desires

> > > > >might stem

> > > > > > >from what price there is yet unpaid, which can mean

those

> > that

> > > > >curses

> > > > > > >bestow. Honestly, this curse-karma-rebirth road is one

I

> > don't

> > > > >much travel

> > > > > > >on

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Cheers,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Ramapriya

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > Orchid

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sunday, October 24, 2004 7:10 AM

> > > > > > > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta

> Gurukul]

> > > Re:

> > > > >Achyuta

> > > > > > >Gurukul] Retrograde exalted saturn in 6th House

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ramapriya,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sorry to jump in, but in your reply you said that

Retro

> > > planets

> > > > >indicate

> > > > > > >curses of a past life. Could you elaborate on that. I

> > remember

> > > > >reading that

> > > > > > >retro means, that this rebirth is due to a storng

desire

> > from

> > > a

> > > > >past life,

> > > > > > >or does that apply only to a retro AK?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Would appreciate your comments.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > Pratibha

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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