|Sri Varaha| RE: [SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

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Dear Visti,

Could you point me to the shloka of Jataka Parijata that associates

Ishta Devata with 5th house?

Chandrashekhar.

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Dear

Ramesh,

Namaskar

Yes

it is

used for rectification.

Actually

Ishta means “most desired”. In Jätaka Parijata, the 5th

house

is called; Ishta Devata, and that’s why many people have argued that

Sanjayji’s use of the term is wrong and have argued against many other

of

his teachings in a similar manor. In fact some have completely

abolished the

use of 12th from Kärakämça because of this.

 

But

in the Parampara

that Sanjayji was brought up in, Ishta Devata SHOULD be that deity

which gives

you moksha! Makes sense eh? This is a Parampara from Orissa where

worship of

Jagannath is at its highest, so you can imagine the logic going into

this.

 

So

because of

this; Sanjayji was taught that the word; Ishta is used for the

Mukti-devata, or

what you may call it.

 

To

save us

from this trouble of having to argue with others - in Chandra Kala

Nadi,

another name is given for the 12th from Kärakämça;

Jeevanmukta-amsa.

Meaning; that division (amsa) that gives liberation in this body

(jeevan-mukta).

 

Once

we’ve

settled the confusion over terms, and we know that Jaimini uses the

same 12th

from Kärakämça, we can proceed.

 

Now

the 5th

house in Vimsamsa (particularly vimsamsa, but doesn’t mean Räçi cannot

be

seen for similar indications) shows which deity you like the most. Some

people

like to worship pisachas, and spirits. There is no chance that this

will give

moksha, so we must admit to ourselves that 5th house does

not have

to be connected to the Jeevanmuktamsa Devata. You may like one deity,

but it is

a different one which is giving moksha. In most cases, the deity giving

moksha

is realized after tedious worship of ones desired deity.

 

Preferably

you should like your Mukti-Devata, so aspire to have the Mukti Devata

associated with 5th house.

I

like

Vishnu, and Mercury lords the 5th house in D-20, Mercury is

also the

Mukti-devata in my case… lucky me. Which deity do you like?

 

Best

wishes,

Visti

Larsen

visti (AT) (DOT) org

Ramesh

Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com]

17 November 2004

14:19

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RE: [sJC:

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Satyam

Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Visti,

I am

tempted to ask about 5H in D20. I

have Saturn, Venus in in 5H with rashi drishti of Sun, Moon, Mars and

Mercury

and graha drishti of Rahu! which deity am I likely to adore?

Can this

knowledge be used for birth

time rectification?

Is there a

link between Ishta Devta and

deity adored? I see Saturn, Venus and Rahu, Mars and Sun involved in

both!

Kind

Regards

Ramesh

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Rama

Krsna|

Dear

Rafal,

Comments below.

Best

wishes,

 

Visti Larsen

visti (AT) (DOT) org

 

 

jyotraff

[jyotraff ]

17 November

2004 05:51

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[sJC:

Achyuta Gurukul]

ques tions - to Visti JI!

 

Dear Visti Ji!

Namaskar.

1. In Navamsa : when 2H is aspected by

venus by

rasi drishti it also

can give extramaritial relationships ?

[Visti]

Räçi dristi = strong libido/virility. Graha

dristi = sexual desires/passion.

2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon -

this makes

me a devotee of

Krsna ?

[Visti]

Yes – Moon or Mercury usually. I use abit

more to confirm whether its devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun

aspecting an

unoccupied 5th house – I’m a bhakta of Sürya and Agni.

3. Why Jup in 3H in d-9 means that she

will be

chaste , 9 house

means morals of spouse (7+9) , not

morals of

herself ?

[Visti]

Sometimes the morals of those you associate

with, influence your morals/ideals. That’s why some people after their

spouse cheats on them, they start cheating on their spouse. In this

chart, Only

planet in trines is Mercury. Mercury is neither influenced strongly by

Moon

(Soma – his promiscuous father) nor Jupiter (Brhaspati his chaste

step-father), so I cannot look at it. Among Moon and Jupiter, Jupiter

has rasi

dristi on the Lagna. I also look at Rähu who also has no connection

with the

Lagna. So finally I decided that she was chaste, as Jupiter has the

strongest

influence on the Lagna.

4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord

of 5

(devotion) in 10 house

(8+3 = energy to make sadhana) it is

sign of work

in sadhana for

devotion ?

[Visti]

What does it mean in Räçi chart?

5. You said that UL with 8 H makes

fixed marriage,

so UL in 8 means

fixed marriage ?

[Visti]

Nope – not necessarily. If UL is in the 8th

house – you feel indebted to your spouse – as if you owe them to be

married to them. But if 8th lord itself is there, then it

may be a

fixed marriage.

6. When Planet is Vakra in Rasi, it is

also Vakra

in D-n and the

meaning of Vakra stays the same in D-n

charts ?

[Visti]

In my experience – yes.

Please tell me when You have enough;)

[Visti]

Every day when i wake up, I do mantra’s

to ensure that I can teach, teach, teach. But now I must teach you to

think in

the right lines, so you can answer your own questions… otherwise we

could

spend a lifetime asking and answering questions.

with respect,

yhs Rafal

[Om

Kleem

Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

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Chandrashekhar,

When I remember

– you will be the first to know.

 

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Re: |Sri Varaha| RE:

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

 

Dear Visti,

Could you point me to the shloka of Jataka Parijata that associates Ishta

Devata with 5th house?

Chandrashekhar.

Visti Larsen wrote:

|Hare

Rama Krsna|

Dear Ramesh,

Namaskar

Yes it is used

for rectification.

Actually

Ishta means “most desired”. In Jätaka Parijata, the 5th

house is called; Ishta Devata, and that’s why many people have argued

that Sanjayji’s use of the term is wrong and have argued against many

other of his teachings in a similar manor. In fact some have completely

abolished the use of 12th from Kärakämça because of this.

 

But in the

Parampara that Sanjayji was brought up in, Ishta Devata SHOULD be that deity

which gives you moksha! Makes sense eh? This is a Parampara from Orissa where

worship of Jagannath is at its highest, so you can imagine the logic going into

this.

 

So because of

this; Sanjayji was taught that the word; Ishta is used for the Mukti-devata, or

what you may call it.

 

To save us

from this trouble of having to argue with others - in Chandra Kala Nadi,

another name is given for the 12th from Kärakämça; Jeevanmukta-amsa.

Meaning; that division (amsa) that gives liberation in this body (jeevan-mukta).

 

Once

we’ve settled the confusion over terms, and we know that Jaimini uses the

same 12th from Kärakämça, we can proceed.

 

Now the 5th

house in Vimsamsa (particularly vimsamsa, but doesn’t mean Räçi cannot be

seen for similar indications) shows which deity you like the most. Some people

like to worship pisachas, and spirits. There is no chance that this will give

moksha, so we must admit to ourselves that 5th house does not have

to be connected to the Jeevanmuktamsa Devata. You may like one deity, but it is

a different one which is giving moksha. In most cases, the deity giving moksha

is realized after tedious worship of ones desired deity.

 

Preferably

you should like your Mukti-Devata, so aspire to have the Mukti Devata

associated with 5th house.

I like

Vishnu, and Mercury lords the 5th house in D-20, Mercury is also the

Mukti-devata in my case… lucky me. Which deity do you like?

 

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

visti (AT) (DOT) org

Ramesh

Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com]

17 November 2004 14:19

 

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

 

10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Dear Visti,

10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">I am tempted to ask about 5H in D20. I

have Saturn, Venus in in 5H with rashi drishti of Sun, Moon, Mars and Mercury

and graha drishti of Rahu! which deity am I likely to adore?

10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Can this knowledge be used for birth

time rectification?

10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Is there a link between Ishta Devta and

deity adored? I see Saturn, Venus and Rahu, Mars and Sun involved in both!

10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Kind Regards

10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Ramesh

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Wednesday, November 17, 2004

4:29 PM

 

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear Rafal,

Comments below.

Best wishes,

 

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jyotraff

[jyotraff ]

17 November 2004 05:51

 

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul]

ques tions - to Visti JI!

 

Dear Visti Ji!

Namaskar.

1. In Navamsa : when 2H is aspected by venus by

rasi drishti it also

can give extramaritial relationships ?

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] Räçi dristi = strong libido/virility. Graha

dristi = sexual desires/passion.

2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon - this makes

me a devotee of

Krsna ?

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] Yes – Moon or Mercury usually. I use abit

more to confirm whether its devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun aspecting an

unoccupied 5th house – I’m a bhakta of Sürya and Agni.

3. Why Jup in 3H in d-9 means that she will be

chaste , 9 house

means morals of spouse (7+9) , not morals of

herself ?

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] Sometimes the morals of those you associate

with, influence your morals/ideals. That’s why some people after their

spouse cheats on them, they start cheating on their spouse. In this chart, Only

planet in trines is Mercury. Mercury is neither influenced strongly by Moon

(Soma – his promiscuous father) nor Jupiter (Brhaspati his chaste

step-father), so I cannot look at it. Among Moon and Jupiter, Jupiter has rasi

dristi on the Lagna. I also look at Rähu who also has no connection with the

Lagna. So finally I decided that she was chaste, as Jupiter has the strongest

influence on the Lagna.

4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord of 5

(devotion) in 10 house

(8+3 = energy to make sadhana) it is sign of work

in sadhana for

devotion ?

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] What does it mean in Räçi chart?

5. You said that UL with 8 H makes fixed marriage,

so UL in 8 means

fixed marriage ?

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] Nope – not necessarily. If UL is in the 8th

house – you feel indebted to your spouse – as if you owe them to be

married to them. But if 8th lord itself is there, then it may be a

fixed marriage.

6. When Planet is Vakra in Rasi, it is also Vakra

in D-n and the

meaning of Vakra stays the same in D-n charts ?

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] In my experience – yes.

Please tell me when You have enough;)

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] Every day when i wake up, I do mantra’s

to ensure that I can teach, teach, teach. But now I must teach you to think in

the right lines, so you can answer your own questions… otherwise we could

spend a lifetime asking and answering questions.

with respect,

yhs Rafal

[Om Kleem

Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

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