Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| Dear Sourav, Although addressed to Visti, allow me to share some of my understanding…. Per definition, the Vipreet Raj Yoga (VRY) is if the lords of the Dushthanas (at least 2) are in Dushthanas themselves. Its as if 2 negatives create a positive. The Dushthanas are those of Houses 6, 8 and 12. Houses 3, 6, 10 and 11 are those of Upachayas. (Some consider the 3rd as a Dushthana, and I am not doing so.) The 7th is neither a Dushthana nor an Upachaya. Based on the scenario you described I am not seeing a VRY. Can you please post the link where you got this from, so I can get a better understanding of the lessons? Thank you. Best wishes and warm regards, Nitin. || Namah Shivaaya || Dear Visti, I was reading in the Varahamihira Blog of Satrajit. There was a posting on Vipareet Raja Yoga in which if lords of 3,6,8,12 join together then they cancel each other's malefic significance and hence is beneficial for the native. But this good effect comes through a fall. If it is a satru-rasi then fall of enemy; if it is a mitra rasi ( benific rasi) then fall of someone close or dear. In my case, I have Su (lord of 3rd) and Ve (lord of 12-th) joining in the 7-th (sagittarius). This by definition is a VRY. What fall does it signify? Thanks for clarification in advance, - Sourav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Dear Nitin, thanks for your reply. please read http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004_07_24_varahamihira_archive.html this is a weblog by Satrajit Poddar who regards Pt. Sanjay Rath as his Guru. Here, it says that the joining of lords of (3,6,8,12) can happen in a dusthana as well as in Kendra or trikona. Thanks, - Sourav , "Nitin" <sjvc@j...> wrote: > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > Dear Sourav, > > Although addressed to Visti, allow me to share some of my understanding…. > > Per definition, the Vipreet Raj Yoga (VRY) is if the lords of the Dushthanas (at least 2) are in Dushthanas themselves. Its as if 2 negatives create a positive. > > The Dushthanas are those of Houses 6, 8 and 12. > > Houses 3, 6, 10 and 11 are those of Upachayas. > (Some consider the 3rd as a Dushthana, and I am not doing so.) > > The 7th is neither a Dushthana nor an Upachaya. > > Based on the scenario you described I am not seeing a VRY. Can you please post the link where you got this from, so I can get a better understanding of the lessons? > > Thank you. > > Best wishes and warm regards, > Nitin. > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > Dear Visti, > I was reading in the Varahamihira Blog of Satrajit. > There was a posting on Vipareet Raja Yoga in which if lords of > 3,6,8,12 join together then they cancel each other's malefic > significance and hence is beneficial for the native. But this good > effect comes through a fall. If it is a satru-rasi then fall of > enemy; if it is a mitra rasi ( benific rasi) then fall of someone > close or dear. > > In my case, I have Su (lord of 3rd) and Ve (lord of 12-th) joining > in the 7-th (sagittarius). This by definition is a VRY. What fall > does it signify? > > Thanks for clarification in advance, > > - Sourav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 | color:blue">Hare Rama Krsna| 10.0pt;font-family:palati;color:blue">Dear Nitin, Namaskar 10.0pt;font-family:palati;color:blue">But Päräçara considers the 3rd house as a Dusthäna – shouldn’t we also? 10.0pt;font-family:palati;color:blue">Best wishes, 10.0pt;font-family:palati;color:blue">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:palati;color:blue">visti (AT) (DOT) org font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Nitin [sjvc (AT) justnitin (DOT) com] 24 November 2004 20:55 [Om Krishna Guru] #2 To Visti - About a Vipareet Raja Yoga in my chart 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| Dear Sourav, Although addressed to Visti, allow me to share some of my understanding…. Per definition, the Vipreet Raj Yoga (VRY) is if the lords of the Dushthanas (at least 2) are in Dushthanas themselves. Its as if 2 negatives create a positive. The Dushthanas are those of Houses 6, 8 and 12. Houses 3, 6, 10 and 11 are those of Upachayas. (Some consider the 3rd as a Dushthana, and I am not doing so.) The 7th is neither a Dushthana nor an Upachaya. Based on the scenario you described I am not seeing a VRY. Can you please post the link where you got this from, so I can get a better understanding of the lessons? Thank you. Best wishes and warm regards, Nitin. || Namah Shivaaya || Dear Visti, I was reading in the Varahamihira Blog of Satrajit. There was a posting on Vipareet Raja Yoga in which if lords of 3,6,8,12 join together then they cancel each other's malefic significance and hence is beneficial for the native. But this good effect comes through a fall. If it is a satru-rasi then fall of enemy; if it is a mitra rasi ( benific rasi) then fall of someone close or dear. In my case, I have Su (lord of 3rd) and Ve (lord of 12-th) joining in the 7-th (sagittarius). This by definition is a VRY. What fall does it signify? Thanks for clarification in advance, - Sourav ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Dear Visti, yes 3rd and 6th are both dusthanas but being upachayas are better than 8th and 12th. So what is the VRY mean? Through whose fall will it fructify? Wife? - Sourav , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > Dear Nitin, Namaskar > > But Päräçara considers the 3rd house as a Dusthäna – shouldn't we also? > > Best wishes, > > Visti Larsen > > visti@s... > > _____ > > Nitin [sjvc@j...] > 24 November 2004 20:55 > > [Om Krishna Guru] #2 To Visti - About a Vipareet Raja Yoga in my > chart > > > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > Dear Sourav, > > Although addressed to Visti, allow me to share some of my understanding…. > > Per definition, the Vipreet Raj Yoga (VRY) is if the lords of the Dushthanas > (at least 2) are in Dushthanas themselves. Its as if 2 negatives create a > positive. > > The Dushthanas are those of Houses 6, 8 and 12. > > Houses 3, 6, 10 and 11 are those of Upachayas. > (Some consider the 3rd as a Dushthana, and I am not doing so.) > > The 7th is neither a Dushthana nor an Upachaya. > > Based on the scenario you described I am not seeing a VRY. Can you please > post the link where you got this from, so I can get a better understanding > of the lessons? > > Thank you. > > Best wishes and warm regards, > Nitin. > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > Dear Visti, > I was reading in the Varahamihira Blog of Satrajit. > There was a posting on Vipareet Raja Yoga in which if lords of > 3,6,8,12 join together then they cancel each other's malefic > significance and hence is beneficial for the native. But this good > effect comes through a fall. If it is a satru-rasi then fall of > enemy; if it is a mitra rasi ( benific rasi) then fall of someone > close or dear. > > In my case, I have Su (lord of 3rd) and Ve (lord of 12-th) joining > in the 7-th (sagittarius). This by definition is a VRY. What fall > does it signify? > > Thanks for clarification in advance, > > - Sourav > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Sponsor > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129hfbr8k/M=298184.5639630.6699735.30011 76/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1101412478/A=2434970/R=0/SIG=11edksnhv/*http :/www.n > etflix.com/Default?mqso=60185402> click here > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? M=298184.5639630.6699735.3001176/D=groups/S= > :HM/A=2434970/rand=506228863> > > > > _____ > > Links > > * > / > > * > > <? subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sourav, Namaskar Actually I don’t like to differentiate between bad or worse, thou 3rd house is part of the Trishadaya (3rd, 6th, 11th) which Päräçara seems to despise utterly. Yes, either wife or a business partner, as indicated by the 7th house. Since Mercury is placed in the 6th house, it is more likely to be a business partner. Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti (AT) (DOT) org font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">feynman_8 [feynman_8 ] 24 November 2004 21:29 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] #2 To Visti - About a Vipareet Raja Yoga in my chart 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Dear Visti, yes 3rd and 6th are both dusthanas but being upachayas are better than 8th and 12th. So what is the VRY mean? Through whose fall will it fructify? Wife? - Sourav , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > Dear Nitin, Namaskar > > But Päräçara considers the 3rd house as a Dusthäna – shouldn't we also? > > Best wishes, > > Visti Larsen > > visti@s... > > _____ > > Nitin [sjvc@j...] > 24 November 2004 20:55 > > [Om Krishna Guru] #2 To Visti - About a Vipareet Raja Yoga in my > chart > > > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > Dear Sourav, > > Although addressed to Visti, allow me to share some of my understanding…. > > Per definition, the Vipreet Raj Yoga (VRY) is if the lords of the Dushthanas > (at least 2) are in Dushthanas themselves. Its as if 2 negatives create a > positive. > > The Dushthanas are those of Houses 6, 8 and 12. > > Houses 3, 6, 10 and 11 are those of Upachayas. > (Some consider the 3rd as a Dushthana, and I am not doing so.) > > The 7th is neither a Dushthana nor an Upachaya. > > Based on the scenario you described I am not seeing a VRY. Can you please > post the link where you got this from, so I can get a better understanding > of the lessons? > > Thank you. > > Best wishes and warm regards, > Nitin. > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > Dear Visti, > I was reading in the Varahamihira Blog of Satrajit. > There was a posting on Vipareet Raja Yoga in which if lords of > 3,6,8,12 join together then they cancel each other's malefic > significance and hence is beneficial for the native. But this good > effect comes through a fall. If it is a satru-rasi then fall of > enemy; if it is a mitra rasi ( benific rasi) then fall of someone > close or dear. > > In my case, I have Su (lord of 3rd) and Ve (lord of 12-th) joining > in the 7-th (sagittarius). This by definition is a VRY. What fall > does it signify? > > Thanks for clarification in advance, > > - Sourav > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129hfbr8k/M=298184.5639630.6699735.30011 76/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1101412478/A=2434970/R=0/SIG=11edksnhv/*http :/www.n > etflix.com/Default?mqso=60185402> click here > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? M=298184.5639630.6699735.3001176/D=groups/S= > :HM/A=2434970/rand=506228863> > > > > _____ > > Links > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > / > > * To from this group, send an email to: > > <? subject=Un> > > * Your use of is subject to the > <> Terms of Service. > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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