To Visti -- Lagna Vargottama : BPHS --- FYI

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Dear Visti,

just read an interesting sloka in BPHS. If Lagna is

vargottama (i.e. Lagna in the same sign in Rasi as well as D-9) then

Vimshottari dasa is the most appropriate.

 

I have a vargottama As in Gemini and I find that to some extent

Vimshottari Dasa shows the general trend of my life.

 

It seems that Maharshi has already delegated

applicability/appropriateness of particular Dasa systems for

particular situations

 

- Sourav

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav, Namaskar

Please give a

reference to this çloka, because Päräçara states that Satabdika Dasa is

applicable when Lagna is Vargottama.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

visti (AT) (DOT) org

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25 November 2004 02:27

 

[Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti -- Lagna Vargottama : BPHS --- FYI

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Dear Visti,

just read an interesting sloka in BPHS. If Lagna is

vargottama (i.e. Lagna in the same sign in Rasi as

well as D-9) then

Vimshottari dasa is the most appropriate.

I have a vargottama As in Gemini and I find that

to some extent

Vimshottari Dasa shows the general trend of my

life.

It seems that Maharshi has already delegated

applicability/appropriateness of particular Dasa

systems for

particular situations

- Sourav

~ om tat sat

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Dear Visti,

please see BPHS Chapter 46, Sloka 31-32. I have a

translation though.

 

Regards,

 

- Sourav

 

In , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>

> Please give a reference to this çloka, because Päräçara states that

> Satabdika Dasa is applicable when Lagna is Vargottama.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> 25 November 2004 02:27

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti -- Lagna Vargottama : BPHS ---

FYI

>

>

>

>

> Dear Visti,

> just read an interesting sloka in BPHS. If Lagna is

> vargottama (i.e. Lagna in the same sign in Rasi as well as D-9)

then

> Vimshottari dasa is the most appropriate.

>

> I have a vargottama As in Gemini and I find that to some extent

> Vimshottari Dasa shows the general trend of my life.

>

> It seems that Maharshi has already delegated

> applicability/appropriateness of particular Dasa systems for

> particular situations

>

> - Sourav

>

>

>

>

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav, Namaskar

vargottamagate lagne

dashaa chintyaa shataabdikaa|

“Should the

lagna be placed in vargottama, the Dasa to be thought about is Shatabdika.”

What do you think

after reading the çloka?

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

visti (AT) (DOT) org

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Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti -- Lagna Vargottama : BPHS --- FYI

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Dear Visti,

please see BPHS Chapter 46, Sloka 31-32. I have a

translation though.

Regards,

- Sourav

 

In , "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>

> Please give a reference to this çloka,

because Päräçara states that

> Satabdika Dasa is applicable when Lagna is

Vargottama.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> 25 November 2004 02:27

>

> [Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti -- Lagna Vargottama : BPHS ---

FYI

>

>

>

>

> Dear Visti,

>

just read an interesting sloka in BPHS. If Lagna is

> vargottama (i.e. Lagna in the same sign in

Rasi as well as D-9)

then

> Vimshottari dasa is the most appropriate.

>

> I have a vargottama As in Gemini and I find

that to some extent

> Vimshottari Dasa shows the general trend of

my life.

>

> It seems that Maharshi has already delegated

> applicability/appropriateness of particular

Dasa systems for

> particular situations

>

> - Sourav

>

>

>

>

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra

'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard

for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do

one free chart

reading today

>

>

>

>

>

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Achyuta Ashram.

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Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

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animals.

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Dear Visti,

is this the same sloka I referred to? Or is it different

one? The drawback is I dont have the original book.

 

BTW, enlighten me about satabdika dasa system.

 

Thanks,

 

- Sourav

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>

> vargottamagate lagne dashaa chintyaa shataabdikaa|

>

> "Should the lagna be placed in vargottama, the Dasa to be thought

about is

> Shatabdika."

>

> What do you think after reading the çloka?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> 25 November 2004 14:08

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti -- Lagna Vargottama :

BPHS --- FYI

>

>

>

>

> Dear Visti,

> please see BPHS Chapter 46, Sloka 31-32. I have a

> translation though.

>

> Regards,

>

> - Sourav

>

> In , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> >

> > Please give a reference to this çloka, because Päräçara states

that

> > Satabdika Dasa is applicable when Lagna is Vargottama.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > 25 November 2004 02:27

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti -- Lagna Vargottama : BPHS --

-

> FYI

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> > just read an interesting sloka in BPHS. If Lagna

is

> > vargottama (i.e. Lagna in the same sign in Rasi as well as D-9)

> then

> > Vimshottari dasa is the most appropriate.

> >

> > I have a vargottama As in Gemini and I find that to some extent

> > Vimshottari Dasa shows the general trend of my life.

> >

> > It seems that Maharshi has already delegated

> > applicability/appropriateness of particular Dasa systems for

> > particular situations

> >

> > - Sourav

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav, Namaskar

It is the same shloka –

actually çloka 32. Çloka 31 deals with the calculations of Panchottari Dasa.

Please get a copy of

Brihat Parashara Horaa Shastra, with Sanskrit in it like G.C. Sharma or Santhanam’s

edition, if you are going to be serious about Jyotish. Satabdika is another one

of the conditional nakshatra Dasa’s. You can read about it in detail in “Udu

Dasa’s” by Sanjay Rath.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

visti (AT) (DOT) org

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25 November 2004 14:27

 

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti -- Lagna Vargottama : BPHS --- FYI

12.0pt">

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Dear Visti,

is this the same sloka I referred to? Or is it different

one? The drawback is I dont have the original

book.

BTW, enlighten me about satabdika dasa system.

Thanks,

- Sourav

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>

> vargottamagate lagne dashaa chintyaa

shataabdikaa|

>

> "Should the lagna be placed in

vargottama, the Dasa to be thought

about is

> Shatabdika."

>

> What do you think after reading the çloka?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> 25 November 2004 14:08

>

> Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti -- Lagna Vargottama :

BPHS --- FYI

>

>

>

>

> Dear Visti,

>

please see BPHS Chapter 46, Sloka 31-32. I have a

> translation though.

>

> Regards,

>

> - Sourav

>

 

> In , "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> >

> > Please give a reference to this çloka,

because Päräçara states

that

> > Satabdika Dasa is applicable when Lagna

is Vargottama.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > 25 November 2004 02:27

> >

> > [Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti -- Lagna Vargottama : BPHS --

-

> FYI

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Visti,

>

>

just read an interesting sloka in BPHS. If Lagna

is

> > vargottama (i.e. Lagna in the same sign

in Rasi as well as D-9)

> then

> > Vimshottari dasa is the most

appropriate.

> >

> > I have a vargottama As in Gemini and I

find that to some extent

> > Vimshottari Dasa shows the general trend

of my life.

> >

> > It seems that Maharshi has already

delegated

> > applicability/appropriateness of

particular Dasa systems for

> > particular situations

> >

> > - Sourav

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of

the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari

Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember

Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a

graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed

- do one free chart

> reading today

> >

> >

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In a message dated 11/25/04 6:25:00 AM Mountain Standard Time,

visti writes:

 

<< “Should the lagna be placed in vargottama, the Dasa to be thought about is

Shatabdika.†>>

______

Visti,

 

I was reading your post regarding Shatabdika dasa and a question occurred to

me.

 

What does one do in cases where two dasa systems apply to a chart?

 

For example, if lagna is vargottama and lagna lord is in 7th or 7th lord is

in lagna, which dasa system is used? Vargottama Lagna would indicate that

Shatabdika Dasas apply, whereas Lagna Lord in 7th or 7th Lord in lagna would

indicate Dwisaptati Sama Dasa. If two dasa systems both apply to a chart, which

one do you use? Are both used, and if so, which one takes precedence? How does

one determine which dasa system will be primary, i.e. will have the strongest

effect on the native? Also, when one of these dasa systems applies, does

Vimshottari dasa have no effect or does it have some effect, but have a lesser

influence (i.e. less strong)?

 

Thanks in advance for your response.

 

Susan

[Guest guest]

Hare Rama Krsna

 

Susan,

I am catching up on old mails, I am unsure if anyone has answered your

query. I am copying a post from the Varahamihira list that is a question but

is pointing in the right direction to the answer of your question.

 

Namah Sivaya

 

 

 

V. Sreelatha [venkatarama_sastry]

Friday, November 19, 2004 11:57 PM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Special Condition Dasas from Rath Ji's book

 

 

 

Dear Gurus and friends,

 

May I request your clarification on dasas? In Pundit Rathji's

Vimsottari and Udu Dasas book, he explains a number of special

condition dasas. On page 36 of the book, his advice is to use "the

order of precedence given by Parasara to select the suitable dasa".

He also says "in case of doubt, use the first source of strangth for

affirmation". However, on page 44 while analyzing Swami

Vivekananda's horoscope, he illustrates how to use a dasa that is

lower in precedence, since the governor of that dasa is stronger.

So, is the rule to first see which governor is stronger, and then

apply that dasa, and in the special case where the governors are

equally strong, to apply the dasa of the strongest governor?

 

My natal chart satisfies the criteria of 3 special conditions, the

Ashtottari, Panchottari and Satabdika. I am curious as to which dasa

to apply in my case.

 

Sanjay Ji mentions the special case of both Panchottari and

Satabdika (vargottama lagna between 0-2.5 degrees in cancer) on page

39, and recommends the use of Panchottari.

 

Astottari dasa has as its theme, export of knowledge or goods or

services. Panchottari has the theme of Radha and Krishna's love that

leads to Moksha. Satabdika has the theme of strong ideals and

beliefs and protection from Mrityunjaya.

 

My personal perception is that Panchottari describes the theme of my

life the best, since Krishna prema has permeated my life from early

childhood, even though our family does not have a tradition of

worshipping Krishna any more than the other forms of God. The other

themes may possibly be applied too, in some fashion. I don't think

this is the appropriate way of deciding which dasa to use though.

 

Could my learned friends please enlighten me on the appropriate

special dasa to study for this chart?

 

DOB: Oct 6, 1967, 00:39:40 AM

Hyderabad, India

 

Thank you for your help.

Sincerely,

Venkatarama Sreelatha

 

 

 

 

abalonemoon [abalonemoon]

Thursday, November 25, 2004 4:03 PM

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti -- Lagna Vargottama : BPHS --- FYI

 

 

In a message dated 11/25/04 6:25:00 AM Mountain Standard Time,

visti writes:

 

<< "Should the lagna be placed in vargottama, the Dasa to be thought about

is

Shatabdika." >>

______

Visti,

 

I was reading your post regarding Shatabdika dasa and a question occurred to

 

me.

 

What does one do in cases where two dasa systems apply to a chart?

 

For example, if lagna is vargottama and lagna lord is in 7th or 7th lord is

in lagna, which dasa system is used? Vargottama Lagna would indicate that

Shatabdika Dasas apply, whereas Lagna Lord in 7th or 7th Lord in lagna would

 

indicate Dwisaptati Sama Dasa. If two dasa systems both apply to a chart,

which

one do you use? Are both used, and if so, which one takes precedence? How

does

one determine which dasa system will be primary, i.e. will have the

strongest

effect on the native? Also, when one of these dasa systems applies, does

Vimshottari dasa have no effect or does it have some effect, but have a

lesser

influence (i.e. less strong)?

 

Thanks in advance for your response.

 

Susan

 

 

 

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In a message dated 11/30/04 8:54:46 PM Mountain Standard Time,

freedom writes:

 

<< I am catching up on old mails, I am unsure if anyone has answered your

query. I am copying a post from the Varahamihira list that is a question but

is pointing in the right direction to the answer of your question. >>

______________

 

Dear Freedom,

 

Thanks so much for responding to my question regarding selection of special

Udu dasas. No, I had not heard back from anyone yet. Thanks for the post from

Varahamihira list with the reference from Vimshottari and Udu Dasas. Were

there any responses to this question posted on Varahamihira list that I could

read? I am not a member of Varahamihira group.

 

I sat down and re-read through Chapter 3, Dasa Applicability, in the

Vimshottari and Udu Dasas book last night. I was left with the following

questions.

 

1. When does one follow Parasara's order of precedence for special dasas and

when does one select the dasa based on First Source of Strength? Does

Parasara's order of precedence ever override the strongest governor? Or is the

strongest governor always given precedence in selecting the dasa?

 

2. Which critera for the First Source of Strength are used? Are the criteria

the same as those used for First Source of Strength for Narayana Dasa (as

listed in Narayana Dasa pp 21-24)?

The examples for selecting special Udu Dasas all use Rule 1 of the First

Source of Strength, i.e. the relationship between the dasa governor and the AK.

Dasa governor in kendra from AK is strongest. Dasa governor in parampara (2,

5, 8, 11th) from AK is second strongest. Dasa governor in apoklima (3, 6, 9,

12th) from AK is weakest. If the governors are both in kendras to AK, (or

both in panapara, or both in apoklima to AK), then does one proceed with Rules 2

through 8 (as used for Narayana Dasa) to determine First Source of Strength?

Are these other 7 rules used when determining dasa applicability, or is only

the relationship to the AK considered?

 

3. Chart 6 (pp. 45-47) also takes into consideration the dasa governor being

lagna lord as a source of its strength. If governor is lagna lord, is this

considered stronger than the criteria in Rules 2-8, First Source of Strength,

(after considering its relationship to AK)?

 

4. Is Second Source of Strength (i.e. dasa governor aspected by its

dispositor, Mercury,or Jupiter) included in determining strength of governor,

or is

this rule omitted in this context?

 

Hope these questions are clear. Please let me know if they require further

clarification. Thanks so much for your response to my questions.

 

Susan

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Visti has already answer my Q.

-Sourav

 

 

 

, abalonemoon@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/30/04 8:54:46 PM Mountain Standard Time,

> freedom@s... writes:

>

> << I am catching up on old mails, I am unsure if anyone has

answered your

> query. I am copying a post from the Varahamihira list that is a

question but

> is pointing in the right direction to the answer of your

question. >>

> ______________

>

> Dear Freedom,

>

> Thanks so much for responding to my question regarding selection

of special

> Udu dasas. No, I had not heard back from anyone yet. Thanks for

the post from

> Varahamihira list with the reference from Vimshottari and Udu

Dasas. Were

> there any responses to this question posted on Varahamihira list

that I could

> read? I am not a member of Varahamihira group.

>

> I sat down and re-read through Chapter 3, Dasa Applicability, in

the

> Vimshottari and Udu Dasas book last night. I was left with the

following questions.

>

> 1. When does one follow Parasara's order of precedence for special

dasas and

> when does one select the dasa based on First Source of Strength?

Does

> Parasara's order of precedence ever override the strongest

governor? Or is the

> strongest governor always given precedence in selecting the dasa?

>

> 2. Which critera for the First Source of Strength are used? Are

the criteria

> the same as those used for First Source of Strength for Narayana

Dasa (as

> listed in Narayana Dasa pp 21-24)?

> The examples for selecting special Udu Dasas all use Rule 1 of the

First

> Source of Strength, i.e. the relationship between the dasa

governor and the AK.

> Dasa governor in kendra from AK is strongest. Dasa governor in

parampara (2,

> 5, 8, 11th) from AK is second strongest. Dasa governor in

apoklima (3, 6, 9,

> 12th) from AK is weakest. If the governors are both in kendras

to AK, (or

> both in panapara, or both in apoklima to AK), then does one

proceed with Rules 2

> through 8 (as used for Narayana Dasa) to determine First Source of

Strength?

> Are these other 7 rules used when determining dasa applicability,

or is only

> the relationship to the AK considered?

>

> 3. Chart 6 (pp. 45-47) also takes into consideration the dasa

governor being

> lagna lord as a source of its strength. If governor is lagna

lord, is this

> considered stronger than the criteria in Rules 2-8, First Source

of Strength,

> (after considering its relationship to AK)?

>

> 4. Is Second Source of Strength (i.e. dasa governor aspected by

its

> dispositor, Mercury,or Jupiter) included in determining strength

of governor, or is

> this rule omitted in this context?

>

> Hope these questions are clear. Please let me know if they

require further

> clarification. Thanks so much for your response to my questions.

>

> Susan