how to rectify time of birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

>

> Visti Larsen

>

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> 29 November 2004 17:39

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify

time of birth for

this chart

> -- to Visti ji

>

> Dear Visti Ji,

>

Her Mars is debilitated in the Navamsa. But aspected by

> Juites with 5th Drishti and still she is

passing thru Moon dasa . I

> am convinced by your explanation that her

ascendant is Scorpio, If

we

> take scorpio ascendant then 10th house has

Sun (lord of 10th) ,

Moon

> (lord of 9th) , Mercury ( lord of 8th and

11th) and Venus (lord of

> 7th and 12th ) . 8th house denotes the

degradation and since 8th

lord

> is in 10th house with 10th lord gives

demotion due to subordinate (

> As per Dr. B.V. Raman , how to judge

horoscope part II) and exactly

> same thing happened with her Still need

to work on the Dasas.

> If we take Scorpio asc. then will

she regain her position ? If

> yes , when?

> One more question, if Ascendant is in Krur

planets rashis (i.e.

> Rashis of Mars, Sun and Saturn ) and Krur

planet is present in the

> Ascendant then stature of native would be skinny

or slim but she is

> not skinny at all.

>

> Thank You,

> Yogesh Shah

>

> ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > Check the Navdmga dispositor of Mars

if its well placed, then

she

> may

> > enjoy.

> >

> > As for Rdhu in 6th house I find that

such people have terrible

> enemies!

> > Look at Sri Rama's chart: Rdhu in 6th

house you think He and

> Ravana were

> > friends?

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> >

> > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Jitjag [jitjag1]

> > 28 November 2004 20:27

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] how to

rectify time of birth for

> this chart

> > -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Thank You Visti Ji.

> >

> > I have one doubt about Scorpio as

Ascendant . If scorpio is

> ascendant then

> > Retro Sat. is in 5th house and she has 3

sons . Also 9th,10th and

> 11th lord

> > in 10th house which is Dharma-Karmadhi

pati yoga most powerful

yoga

> and Mars

> > in 1st house scorpio which is one more

maha purusha yoga But she

is

> not

> > enjoying any Raj yoga .. Also as per Dr.

B.V. Raman if Rahu is in

> 6th,

> > native will not have enemies which is

not true in her case.

> >

> > I think i am tryin to come to conclusion

with only Rasi Chart and

> that is

> > why i am asking so many question.

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > Im pretty convinced that its

Scorpio. Mars in Lagna can act like

a

> General

> > and be very dominating.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> >

> > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > 28 November 2004 16:47

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] how to

rectify time of birth for

> this chart

> > -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Hi Visti Ji, Namsakar..

> >

> > Based on my limited knowledge i tried to

find out the ascendant

of

> > my ex-manager.

> > Could you please give your opinion about

my understanding and

> > interpretetion...

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > ,

"jitjag1" <jitjag1>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Visti Ji,

> > >

> > > Her parents gave two different

timing i.e. 5.00 AM and 2.00

PM...

> > > Birth Date : 03- Sep-1967 , Place :

Madison

, WI,

USA

> >

> > > 1>5.00 AM gives

> >

>

Rasi

> > >

+--------------+

> > > |

\

/ \

HL / |

> > > |

\

/ \

Ju / |

> > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > >

| \ 6

/ Su

\ / |

> > >

| \

/

\ 4 / |

> > > |Ke

7 x Me As

VeR x 3 Md |

> > >

| / \

/ \ |

> > >

| /

\ Mo

/ \ |

> > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > |

/

\ 5 /

Gk \ |

> > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > >

|

Ma 8 x

2

GL |

> > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > |

\

/ 11 \ AL

/ |

> > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > >

| 9

x

x 1 Ra |

> > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > >

| / 10

\

/ 12 \ |

> > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > |

/

\ /

SaR \ |

> > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > >

+--------------+

> > >

> > > she has 3 son and jupiter is in

12th house and 5th house is

> > aspected

> > > by saturn so Leo cann't be

her ascendant. After that i changed

> > time

> > > to 4.50 AM and ascendant

changed to Cancer with Jupiter in it..

> > >

> > > 2> 4.50 AM

> > >

> >

>

Rasi

> > >

+--------------+

> > > | \

Mo Me /

\

Md / |

> > > |

\ Su

/ \

HL / |

> > > | \

VeR

/

\

/ |

> > >

| \

/ Ju

\ 3 / |

> > >

| \

5/

\ / |

> > > |AL

6 x

As x

2 Gk |

> > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > >

| / \

/ \ |

> > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > |

/

\ 4 /

GL \ |

> > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > >

|

Ke 7 x

1

Ra |

> > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > |

\

/ 10

\

/ |

> > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > >

|Ma 8

x

x 12 SaR |

> > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > >

| / 9

\

/ 11 \ |

> > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > >

+--------------+

> > >

> > > Which matches her few past events

.... Jupiter , putra karka

> > exalted

> > > and aspecting 5th(1st son),7th

house(2nd son) and 9th house

(3rd

> > > son). also 5th house lord is placed

in 5th house ...

> > >

> > > Also Rahu is in 10th house shows

she has problem with her

> > colleagues

> > > and i have been witness of it. Also

currently Gochar rahu is on

> > > Natal Rahu .. so It shows issue

related to career...

> > >

> > > Timing : 2.00 PM...

> >

>

Rasi

> > >

+--------------+

> > > | \

Gk

/

\

/ |

> > > |

\ Md

/ \

Ke / |

> > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > >

| \

/ Ma

\ 7 / |

> > > |

\ 9 /

\ / |

> > >

| 10

x

As x

6 AL

|

> > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > |

/

\ 8 /

Mo \ |

> > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > |

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> > > |

\

/ 2

\

/ |

> > > |

\

/ \

Me / |

> > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > |SaR GL 12

x

x 4 Ju |

> > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > >

| / 1

\

/ 3 \ |

> > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > |

/ Ra

\

/

\ |

> > > | /

HL

\

/

\ |

> > >

+--------------+

> > >

> > > This chart also show the tension at

work front but saturn's

> > presence

> > > in makes bit difficult to explain 3

sons... Also Normally i

have

> > > noticed that if Mars is in ascendant

, normally person has some

> > > marks due to injury on

forhead which is not present in her

> case .

> > > Also combination of 9th , 10th ,

11th (also 8th) and 7th ( also

> > > 12th) lords in 10th is great raja

yoga but she is not enjoying

> any

> > > Raja yoga .. Also as per Dr.

B.V. Raman If Rahu in 6th ,

native

> > > will not have many enemies, which

is not true in her case...

> > >

> > > Visti Ji, Do you think that the

reasons given by me are on

right

> > > direction or did i miss manythings..

first of all since she is

> > very

> > > nice to me so i am bit biased while

looking at her chart...

> > >

> > > Thank You,

> > >

> > > Yogesh Shah

> > >

> > > --- In

, "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Try Scorpio or Capricorn

lagna - It seems, at her work

place,

> > > somebody is

> > > > jealous and has given her some

bad-reputation, which is the

> > reason

> > > for her

> > > > demotion.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > visti@s...

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > Jitjag

[jitjag1]

> > > > 25 November 2004 21:14

> > > >

> > >

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of birth

for

> > > this chart

> > > > -- to Visti ji

> > > >

> > > > Hi Visti Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thank You for quick reply..

She was my ex-manger .. she

helped

> > me

> > > a lot

> > > > during last 1 and half year

....

> > > >

> > > > you said that ...

> > > >

> > > > >>however there is some

sort of jealousy going on, which is

> > > obstructing it.

> > > >

> > > > Could you please explain what

it means?

> > > >

> > > > Thank You,

> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

<visti@s...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > With such little information

about the birthtime, you should

> > have

> > > applied

> > > > Nashta Jdtaka Prasna

principles on her chart to find the

right

> > > birthtime.

> > > > Drawing a prasna and asking

someone else to answer it defies

> the

> > > point of

> > > > drawing it in the first place.

>From the Prasna I drew, I saw

a

> > > possibility

> > > > of a promotion, however there

is some sort of jealousy going

> on,

> > > which is

> > > > obstructing it.

> > > >

> > > > Please tell how this person is

related to you so I can

continue.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > visti@s...

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > jitjag1

[jitjag1]

> > > > 25 November 2004 19:19

> > > > To:

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] how

to rectify time of birth for

> this

> > > chart -- to

> > > > Visti ji

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I got

Date of birth from a person who just got demoted

from

> > > > Manager's position to Project

manager .. (initially 5 ppl

> > > reporting

> > > > and now none is reporting to

her) and she has has to report

to

> > her

> > > > colleague. Also one of her

junior who was reporting to her

got

> > > > double promotion and he will

lead her past team.

> > > >

> > > > Birth Date : 03- Sep-1967 ,

Place : Madison

, WI,

USA

> > > >

> > > > Parent gave her two diff. time

of birth : 2,00 AM and 5.0 PM.

> > > >

> > > > past event ...

> > > >

> > > > 1> three sons...

> > > > 2> one year back husband

went thru cataract operation.

> > > > 3> has one sister.

> > > > 4> Husband was not working

for long time .. very recently 15-

20

> > > days

> > > > back started working again.

> > > > 5> around 15 months back

2nd son had fracture...

> > > > 6> Very diwn to earth lady,

won't hesitate to say truth...

> > > > 7> Very passionate about

her work.

> > > > 8>She got news of demotion

om 16th Sep'2004 between 3.30 to

4.00

> > > > 10> she still tells that

the person who got promoted is very

> > nice

> > > > person .. shows how kind

hearted she is !!!

> > > > 11>Very dominating in

nature...

> > > >

> > > > Visti ji , could you please

help me to rectify her time of

> > > birth ...

> > > >

> > > > Today, I asked myself question

will she regain her position

> > > >

> > > > Date : Nov-25-2004

> > > > Time : 10:52:41

> > > > Place : Madison

, WI.

> > > >

> > > > And i got vergottama lagna and

lagna lord ... lagna lord

> > aspecting

> > > > lagna .. so i think, she will

regain her position as soon as

> > Sani

> > > > will be margi but i can not

come to conclusion that in same

> > > company

> > > > or other company ?

> > > >

> > > > Is my conclusion based on

Langa and Lagnes is corrct?

> > > >

> > > > Thank You,

> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Shah

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Dear Visti ji, Namsakar.

Thanks again for reply. You said that planet in 7th house in D-10

gives excuse to end your job, could you please explain how to find

the timing of such events?

Also there were two demotions at same time. In her scenario, she is

demoted to one level down while another person got demoted to 3 level

down. Beside that while announcing demotions her immediate boss said

many good things about her and also made her Project manage of very

prestigious project (they did not gave her pink slip (even layoffs

are on card)). Is it due to Jupiter, Mars well placed in D-1 Artha

trikona or this things also should be judged from D-10 (9th lord

Venus in 10th house in D-10)?

When I was going thru some articles on how to read divisional charts,

which I have downloaded from the SJC site. According to it 5th house

in D-10 indicates change job and most of the time it happens in PD of

lord of the 5th. She is currently passing thru Mercury(which is 5th

lord in D-10) PD and after that Ketu(which is in 11th house aspecting

5th house) PD , does that mean both the PD are fav. For change in job.

Her D-10 does not have too much strength ( as per my little

knowledge) , I could be wrong. She is very ambitious, How would her

career be?

Thank you,

Yogesh Shah

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

>

> Planets in the 7th house in d10 give you excuses to end your job,

This is

> the case in her chart.

>

> The 5th lord Mercury have become weak due to Saturns debility. So

if we

> wanto enhance her potential we must enhance Mercury and ensure

Saturn does

> not get enhanced in the process. Another way is by giving Saturn

neecha

> bhanga in the D10, but this is much harder.

>

> The 10th house in the d1 chart shows how you work. This is heavily

based on

> seasons and how people work during those seasons. Saturn is Sisira

Rtu,

> namely Winter, and during this time everybody stays indoors most of

the

> time. This causes long periods without jobs and then when the job

is there,

> the stress-load is huge.

>

> Everything we need to know about the job is seen in the d10.

>

> If she gets a promotion then it will be in the same job. If she

gets a new

> job, then a job-loss must be indicated. Mercury is however

indicating the

> latter, as it is 8th lord, so I doubt she will regain her position.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/>

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> Jitjag [jitjag1]

> 19 December 2004 07:14

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth for

this

> chart -- to Visti ji

>

> Dear Visti Ji , Namsakar.

>

> Initially when she asked her parent for TOB , she got 2 different

time of

> birth and that is why I was trying to rectify her TOB.

>

> In your mail you mentioned that "moon lord of 6th in 7th giving

her some

> ideas about converting her Job into a business" but as far as I

know she is

> not planning any business as of now she is just trying to come out

of this

> shock because actually she was expecting promotion but altogether

opposite

> happend.

>

> I have read in many books that the Saturn in 10th gives very

revolutionary

> results like sudden ups and downs and exactly same thing

happening with

> her also... I am still learning Jyotish and still i do rely too

much on the

> Rasi chart ( because not knowing how to interprete Divisional

charts) . I

> will send my reading to group tomorrow so you and other learned

member can

> teach/correct me.

>

> You also mentioned that debiliated Saturn and Mer is 3rd house

in D-10

> and you recommed her to wear emrald to strenghtn Mer .. But since

Mercury is

> with the Saturn , Mercury dasa/antar/pratyanpar dasa also will not

be

> favorable , is that correct ?

>

> Also, will she regain position in same company or other company?

How can we

> see that .. which house/divisional chart should be considered for

that?

>

> Thank You,

>

> Yogesh Shah

>

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

>

> Im curious why was this a lost horoscope before?

>

> Vimshottari is fine for this chart, open the dasamsa and see that

Moon maha

> dagd is running and is the 6th lord in 7th giving her some ideas

about

> converting her job into a business.

>

> Saturn antara dasa is running so check Saturn;

>

> See that the 5th lord mercury is joined a debilitated Saturn this

is very

> bad, especially as Saturn is lagna lord, showing bad name,

reputation and a

> resultant demotion. The good side is that Lagna lord Rdhu is

exalted in the

> 5th house, but this has other downsides, such as over-dependancy on

others

> to do the work.

>

> The demotion happened in 16th Nov, during Moon-Saturn-Saturn. Right

now

> Moon-Saturn-Mercury is running and if we give her an emerald to

wear then we

> can get her promoted quicker ENSURE that she is not wearing a blue

saffire!

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

_____

>

> Jitjag [jitjag1]

> 17 December 2004 21:07

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth for

this

> chart -- to Visti ji

>

> Sorry , it for typo

>

> Got news of demotion on on 16th Nov'04 instead of 16th Sep'04.

>

> Thank You,

>

> Yogesh Shah

>

> Jitjag <jitjag1> wrote:

>

> Dear Visti ji,

>

> Finally got My ex-manager's correct time of birth,

>

> Date : 03-sep-1967

>

> Place: Wausau, Wisconsin,USA

>

> Time : 01.58 AM

>

> Got news of demotion on on 16th Sep'2004.

>

> Could you please now analyze her chart and tell, will she be able

to regain

> her position , yes then when ? How her career will be?

>

> Thank You,

>

> Yogesh Shah

>

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

>

> Comments below.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

_____

>

> jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> 30 November 2004 22:51

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth for

this chart

> -- to Visti ji

>

> Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar

>

> I have a friend who has Mars with Scorpio ascendant and he is

skinny

> so just got carried away with that. I am aware of that the Scorpio

is

> Kapha.

>

> [Visti] Mars can give a very thin waist.

>

> I have one more question for you if planet is owner of two rashis

> (except Moon and Sun) in that scenario while interpreting results

> which house ownership should be given more important compare to

other

> house.

>

> [Visti] Rafal knows the answer to this, ask him.

>

> If we take her chart with scorpio ascendant then Mercury became

lord

> of 8th and 11th 8th house and lord indicates the demotion or

degrade

> of person. But 11th house and lord of 11th indicates Labh i.e.

> benefits How to interpret it's association with 10th lord in 10th

> house.

>

> >From Prasna chart you predicted that she will be promoted but you

did

> not mention when , could you please tell tentative time period.

>

> Thank You,

> Yogesh Shah

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > I have Scorpio Lagna with the Sun in it, and I have put on a good

> ammount of

> > weight. First learn the Dosha's of Ayurveda; Vaata, Pitta, Kapha

and

> > Tridoshic. Did you know that Scorpio is Kapha?

> >

> > As for her regaining of position, I still cannot say anything

just

> with the

> > Rdgi, but I have given my oppinion based on the Prasna chart.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> >

> > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > 29 November 2004 17:39

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth for

> this chart

> > -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Dear Visti Ji,

> > Her Mars is debilitated in the Navamsa. But aspected by

> > Juites with 5th Drishti and still she is passing thru Moon dasa .

I

> > am convinced by your explanation that her ascendant is Scorpio,

If

> we

> > take scorpio ascendant then 10th house has Sun (lord of 10th) ,

> Moon

> > (lord of 9th) , Mercury ( lord of 8th and 11th) and Venus (lord

of

> > 7th and 12th ) . 8th house denotes the degradation and since 8th

> lord

> > is in 10th house with 10th lord gives demotion due to subordinate

(

> > As per Dr. B.V. Raman , how to judge horoscope part II) and

exactly

> > same thing happened with her Still need to work on the Dasas.

> > If we take Scorpio asc. then will she regain her position ? If

> > yes , when?

> > One more question, if Ascendant is in Krur planets rashis (i.e.

> > Rashis of Mars, Sun and Saturn ) and Krur planet is present in

the

> > Ascendant then stature of native would be skinny or slim but she

is

> > not skinny at all.

> >

> > Thank You,

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Check the Navdmga dispositor of Mars if its well placed, then

> she

> > may

> > > enjoy.

> > >

> > > As for Rdhu in 6th house I find that such people have terrible

> > enemies!

> > > Look at Sri Rama's chart: Rdhu in 6th house you think He and

> > Ravana were

> > > friends?

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> > >

> > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Jitjag [jitjag1]

> > > 28 November 2004 20:27

> > >

> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of birth for

> > this chart

> > > -- to Visti ji

> > >

> > > Thank You Visti Ji.

> > >

> > > I have one doubt about Scorpio as Ascendant . If scorpio is

> > ascendant then

> > > Retro Sat. is in 5th house and she has 3 sons . Also 9th,10th

and

> > 11th lord

> > > in 10th house which is Dharma-Karmadhi pati yoga most powerful

> yoga

> > and Mars

> > > in 1st house scorpio which is one more maha purusha yoga But

she

> is

> > not

> > > enjoying any Raj yoga .. Also as per Dr. B.V. Raman if Rahu is

in

> > 6th,

> > > native will not have enemies which is not true in her case.

> > >

> > > I think i am tryin to come to conclusion with only Rasi Chart

and

> > that is

> > > why i am asking so many question.

> > >

> > > Thank You,

> > >

> > > Yogesh Shah

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> > >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Im pretty convinced that its Scorpio. Mars in Lagna can act

like

> a

> > General

> > > and be very dominating.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> > >

> > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > > 28 November 2004 16:47

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of birth for

> > this chart

> > > -- to Visti ji

> > >

> > > Hi Visti Ji, Namsakar..

> > >

> > > Based on my limited knowledge i tried to find out the ascendant

> of

> > > my ex-manager.

> > > Could you please give your opinion about my understanding and

> > > interpretetion...

> > >

> > > Thank You,

> > >

> > > Yogesh Shah

> > >

> > > , "jitjag1" <jitjag1>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi Visti Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Her parents gave two different timing i.e. 5.00 AM and 2.00

> PM...

> > > > Birth Date : 03- Sep-1967 , Place : Madison , WI, USA

> > >

> > > > 1>5.00 AM gives

> > > > Rasi

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ / \ HL / |

> > > > | \ / \ Ju / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ 6 / Su \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ 4 / |

> > > > |Ke 7 x Me As VeR x 3 Md |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ Mo / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ 5 / Gk \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | Ma 8 x 2 GL |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / 11 \ AL / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | 9 x x 1 Ra |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / 10 \ / 12 \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ / SaR \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > she has 3 son and jupiter is in 12th house and 5th house is

> > > aspected

> > > > by saturn so Leo cann't be her ascendant. After that i

changed

> > > time

> > > > to 4.50 AM and ascendant changed to Cancer with Jupiter in

it..

> > > >

> > > > 2> 4.50 AM

> > > >

> > > > Rasi

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ Mo Me / \ Md / |

> > > > | \ Su / \ HL / |

> > > > | \ VeR / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Ju \ 3 / |

> > > > | \ 5/ \ / |

> > > > |AL 6 x As x 2 Gk |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ 4 / GL \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | Ke 7 x 1 Ra |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / 10 \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Ma 8 x x 12 SaR |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / 9 \ / 11 \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Which matches her few past events ... Jupiter , putra karka

> > > exalted

> > > > and aspecting 5th(1st son),7th house(2nd son) and 9th house

> (3rd

> > > > son). also 5th house lord is placed in 5th house ...

> > > >

> > > > Also Rahu is in 10th house shows she has problem with her

> > > colleagues

> > > > and i have been witness of it. Also currently Gochar rahu is

on

> > > > Natal Rahu .. so It shows issue related to career...

> > > >

> > > > Timing : 2.00 PM...

> > > > Rasi

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ Gk / \ / |

> > > > | \ Md / \ Ke / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Ma \ 7 / |

> > > > | \ 9 / \ / |

> > > > | 10 x As x 6 AL |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ 8 / Mo \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | 11 x 5VeR Su |

> > > > | \ / 2 \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ Me / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |SaR GL 12 x x 4 Ju |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / 1 \ / 3 \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / Ra \ / \ |

> > > > | / HL \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > This chart also show the tension at work front but saturn's

> > > presence

> > > > in makes bit difficult to explain 3 sons... Also Normally i

> have

> > > > noticed that if Mars is in ascendant , normally person has

some

> > > > marks due to injury on forhead which is not present in her

> > case .

> > > > Also combination of 9th , 10th , 11th (also 8th) and 7th (

also

> > > > 12th) lords in 10th is great raja yoga but she is not

enjoying

> > any

> > > > Raja yoga .. Also as per Dr. B.V. Raman If Rahu in 6th ,

> native

> > > > will not have many enemies, which is not true in her case...

> > > >

> > > > Visti Ji, Do you think that the reasons given by me are on

> right

> > > > direction or did i miss manythings.. first of all since she

is

> > > very

> > > > nice to me so i am bit biased while looking at her chart...

> > > >

> > > > Thank You,

> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > >

> > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> <visti@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > Try Scorpio or Capricorn lagna - It seems, at her work

> place,

> > > > somebody is

> > > > > jealous and has given her some bad-reputation, which is the

> > > reason

> > > > for her

> > > > > demotion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > > visti@s...

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > Jitjag [jitjag1]

> > > > > 25 November 2004 21:14

> > > > >

> > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of birth

> for

> > > > this chart

> > > > > -- to Visti ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Visti Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank You for quick reply.. She was my ex-manger .. she

> helped

> > > me

> > > > a lot

> > > > > during last 1 and half year ...

> > > > >

> > > > > you said that ...

> > > > >

> > > > > >>however there is some sort of jealousy going on, which is

> > > > obstructing it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Could you please explain what it means?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank You,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > With such little information about the birthtime, you

should

> > > have

> > > > applied

> > > > > Nashta Jdtaka Prasna principles on her chart to find the

> right

> > > > birthtime.

> > > > > Drawing a prasna and asking someone else to answer it

defies

> > the

> > > > point of

> > > > > drawing it in the first place. From the Prasna I drew, I

saw

> a

> > > > possibility

> > > > > of a promotion, however there is some sort of jealousy

going

> > on,

> > > > which is

> > > > > obstructing it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please tell how this person is related to you so I can

> continue.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > > visti@s...

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > > > > 25 November 2004 19:19

> > > > >

> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of birth for

> > this

> > > > chart -- to

> > > > > Visti ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > I got Date of birth from a person who just got demoted

> from

> > > > > Manager's position to Project manager .. (initially 5 ppl

> > > > reporting

> > > > > and now none is reporting to her) and she has has to report

> to

> > > her

> > > > > colleague. Also one of her junior who was reporting to her

> got

> > > > > double promotion and he will lead her past team.

> > > > >

> > > > > Birth Date : 03- Sep-1967 , Place : Madison , WI, USA

> > > > >

> > > > > Parent gave her two diff. time of birth : 2,00 AM and 5.0

PM.

> > > > >

> > > > > past event ...

> > > > >

> > > > > 1> three sons...

> > > > > 2> one year back husband went thru cataract operation.

> > > > > 3> has one sister.

> > > > > 4> Husband was not working for long time .. very recently

15-

> 20

> > > > days

> > > > > back started working again.

> > > > > 5> around 15 months back 2nd son had fracture...

> > > > > 6> Very diwn to earth lady, won't hesitate to say truth...

> > > > > 7> Very passionate about her work.

> > > > > 8>She got news of demotion om 16th Sep'2004 between 3.30 to

> 4.00

> > > > > 10> she still tells that the person who got promoted is

very

> > > nice

> > > > > person .. shows how kind hearted she is !!!

> > > > > 11>Very dominating in nature...

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti ji , could you please help me to rectify her time of

> > > > birth ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Today, I asked myself question will she regain her position

> > > > >

> > > > > Date : Nov-25-2004

> > > > > Time : 10:52:41

> > > > > Place : Madison , WI.

> > > > >

> > > > > And i got vergottama lagna and lagna lord ... lagna lord

> > > aspecting

> > > > > lagna .. so i think, she will regain her position as soon

as

> > > Sani

> > > > > will be margi but i can not come to conclusion that in same

> > > > company

> > > > > or other company ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Is my conclusion based on Langa and Lagnes is corrct?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank You,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yogesh Shah

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Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

You can find most of the answers to this

in Crux of Vedic Astrology – 10th house Chapter.

I shall be presenting some techniques for

timing in this regard, for this upcoming conference.

Best wishes,

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[Om Krishna Guru] Re: how

to rectify time of birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

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Dear Visti ji, Namsakar.

Thanks again for reply. You said that planet

in 7th house in D-10

gives excuse to end your job, could you please

explain how to find

the timing of such events?

Also there were two demotions at same time. In her

scenario, she is

demoted to one level down while another person got

demoted to 3 level

down. Beside that while announcing demotions her

immediate boss said

many good things about her and also made her

Project manage of very

prestigious project (they did not gave her pink

slip (even layoffs

are on card)). Is it due to Jupiter,

Mars well placed in D-1 Artha

trikona or this things also should be judged from

D-10 (9th lord

Venus in 10th house in D-10)?

When I was going thru some articles on how to read

divisional charts,

which I have downloaded from the SJC site.

According to it 5th house

in D-10 indicates change job and most of the time

it happens in PD of

lord of the 5th. She is currently

passing thru Mercury(which is 5th

lord in D-10) PD and after that Ketu(which is in

11th house aspecting

5th house) PD , does that mean both the PD are

fav. For change in job.

Her D-10 does not have too much strength ( as per

my little

knowledge) , I could be wrong. She is very

ambitious, How would her

career be?

Thank you,

Yogesh Shah

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

>

> Planets in the 7th house in d10 give you

excuses to end your job,

This is

> the case in her chart.

>

> The 5th lord Mercury have become weak due to

Saturns debility. So

if we

> wanto enhance her potential we must enhance

Mercury and ensure

Saturn does

> not get enhanced in the process. Another way

is by giving Saturn

neecha

> bhanga in the D10, but this is much harder.

>

> The 10th house in the d1 chart shows how you

work. This is heavily

based on

> seasons and how people work during those

seasons. Saturn is Sisira

Rtu,

> namely Winter, and during this time everybody

stays indoors most of

the

> time. This causes long periods without jobs

and then when the job

is there,

> the stress-load is huge.

>

> Everything we need to know about the job is

seen in the d10.

>

> If she gets a promotion then it will be in

the same job. If she

gets a new

> job, then a job-loss must be indicated.

Mercury is however

indicating the

> latter, as it is 8th lord, so I doubt she

will regain her position.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> Jitjag [jitjag1]

> 19 December 2004 07:14

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to

rectify time of birth for

this

> chart -- to Visti ji

>

> Dear Visti Ji , Namsakar.

>

> Initially when she asked her parent for TOB ,

she got 2 different

time of

> birth and that is why I was trying to rectify

her TOB.

>

> In your mail you mentioned that

"moon lord of 6th in 7th giving

her some

> ideas about converting her Job into a

business" but as far as I

know she is

> not planning any business as of now she is

just trying to come out

of this

> shock because actually she was expecting

promotion but altogether

opposite

> happend.

>

> I have read in many books that the Saturn in

10th gives very

revolutionary

> results like sudden ups and downs and

exactly same thing

happening with

> her also... I am still learning Jyotish and

still i do rely too

much on the

> Rasi chart ( because not knowing how to

interprete Divisional

charts) . I

> will send my reading to group tomorrow so you

and other learned

member can

> teach/correct me.

>

> You also mentioned that debiliated

Saturn and Mer is 3rd house

in D-10

> and you recommed her to wear emrald to

strenghtn Mer .. But since

Mercury is

> with the Saturn , Mercury

dasa/antar/pratyanpar dasa also will not

be

> favorable , is that correct ?

>

> Also, will she regain position in same

company or other company?

How can we

> see that .. which house/divisional chart

should be considered for

that?

>

> Thank You,

>

> Yogesh Shah

>

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

>

> Im curious why was this a lost

horoscope before?

>

> Vimshottari is fine for this chart, open the

dasamsa and see that

Moon maha

> dagd is running and is the 6th lord in 7th

giving her some ideas

about

> converting her job into a business.

>

> Saturn antara dasa is running so check

Saturn;

>

> See that the 5th lord mercury is joined a

debilitated Saturn this

is very

> bad, especially as Saturn is lagna lord,

showing bad name,

reputation and a

> resultant demotion. The good side is that

Lagna lord Rdhu is

exalted in the

> 5th house, but this has other downsides, such

as over-dependancy on

others

> to do the work.

>

> The demotion happened in 16th Nov, during

Moon-Saturn-Saturn. Right

now

> Moon-Saturn-Mercury is running and if we give

her an emerald to

wear then we

> can get her promoted quicker ENSURE that she

is not wearing a blue

saffire!

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> Jitjag [jitjag1]

> 17 December 2004 21:07

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to

rectify time of birth for

this

> chart -- to Visti ji

>

> Sorry , it for typo

>

> Got news of demotion on on 16th

Nov'04 instead of 16th Sep'04.

>

> Thank You,

>

> Yogesh Shah

>

> Jitjag <jitjag1> wrote:

>

> Dear Visti ji,

>

> Finally got My ex-manager's correct

time of birth,

>

> Date : 03-sep-1967

>

> Place: Wausau,

Wisconsin,USA

>

> Time : 01.58 AM

>

> Got news of demotion on on 16th

Sep'2004.

>

> Could you please now analyze her chart and

tell, will she be able

to regain

> her position , yes then when ? How her career

will be?

>

> Thank You,

>

> Yogesh Shah

>

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

>

> Comments below.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> 30 November 2004 22:51

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify

time of birth for

this chart

> -- to Visti ji

>

> Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar

>

> I have a friend who has Mars with Scorpio

ascendant and he is

skinny

> so just got carried away with that. I am

aware of that the Scorpio

is

> Kapha.

>

> [Visti] Mars can give a very thin waist.

>

> I have one more question for you if planet is

owner of two rashis

> (except Moon and Sun) in that scenario while

interpreting results

> which house ownership should be given more

important compare to

other

> house.

>

> [Visti] Rafal knows the answer to this, ask

him.

>

> If we take her chart with scorpio ascendant

then Mercury became

lord

> of 8th and 11th 8th house and lord indicates

the demotion or

degrade

> of person. But 11th house and lord of 11th

indicates Labh i.e.

> benefits How to interpret it's association

with 10th lord in 10th

> house.

>

> >From Prasna chart you predicted that she

will be promoted but you

did

> not mention when , could you please tell

tentative time period.

>

> Thank You,

> Yogesh Shah

>

> ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > I have Scorpio Lagna with the Sun in it,

and I have put on a good

> ammount of

> > weight. First learn the Dosha's of

Ayurveda; Vaata, Pitta, Kapha

and

> > Tridoshic. Did you know that Scorpio is Kapha?

> >

> > As for her regaining of position, I

still cannot say anything

just

> with the

> > Rdgi, but I have given my oppinion based

on the Prasna chart.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> >

> > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > 29 November 2004 17:39

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to

rectify time of birth for

> this chart

> > -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Dear Visti Ji,

>

> Her Mars is debilitated in

the Navamsa. But aspected by

> > Juites with 5th Drishti and still she is

passing thru Moon dasa .

I

> > am convinced by your explanation that

her ascendant is Scorpio,

If

> we

> > take scorpio ascendant then 10th house

has Sun (lord of 10th) ,

> Moon

> > (lord of 9th) , Mercury ( lord of 8th

and 11th) and Venus (lord

of

> > 7th and 12th ) . 8th house denotes the

degradation and since 8th

> lord

> > is in 10th house with 10th lord gives

demotion due to subordinate

(

> > As per Dr. B.V. Raman , how to judge

horoscope part II) and

exactly

> > same thing happened with her Still

need to work on the Dasas.

> > If we take Scorpio asc. then

will she regain her position ? If

> > yes , when?

> > One more question, if Ascendant is in

Krur planets rashis (i.e.

> > Rashis of Mars, Sun and Saturn ) and

Krur planet is present in

the

> > Ascendant then stature of native would

be skinny or slim but she

is

> > not skinny at all.

> >

> > Thank You,

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Check the Navdmga dispositor of

Mars if its well placed, then

> she

> > may

> > > enjoy.

> > >

> > > As for Rdhu in 6th house I find

that such people have terrible

> > enemies!

> > > Look at Sri Rama's chart: Rdhu in

6th house you think He and

> > Ravana were

> > > friends?

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > >

> > > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Jitjag [jitjag1]

> > > 28 November 2004 20:27

> > >

> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] how

to rectify time of birth for

> > this chart

> > > -- to Visti ji

> > >

> > > Thank You Visti Ji.

> > >

> > > I have one doubt about Scorpio as

Ascendant . If scorpio is

> > ascendant then

> > > Retro Sat. is in 5th house and she

has 3 sons . Also 9th,10th

and

> > 11th lord

> > > in 10th house which is

Dharma-Karmadhi pati yoga most powerful

> yoga

> > and Mars

> > > in 1st house scorpio which is one

more maha purusha yoga But

she

> is

> > not

> > > enjoying any Raj yoga .. Also as

per Dr. B.V. Raman if Rahu is

in

> > 6th,

> > > native will not have enemies which

is not true in her case.

> > >

> > > I think i am tryin to come to

conclusion with only Rasi Chart

and

> > that is

> > > why i am asking so many question.

> > >

> > > Thank You,

> > >

> > > Yogesh Shah

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Im pretty convinced that its

Scorpio. Mars in Lagna can act

like

> a

> > General

> > > and be very dominating.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > >

> > > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > > 28 November 2004 16:47

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] how

to rectify time of birth for

> > this chart

> > > -- to Visti ji

> > >

> > > Hi Visti Ji, Namsakar..

> > >

> > > Based on my limited knowledge i

tried to find out the ascendant

> of

> > > my ex-manager.

> > > Could you please give your opinion

about my understanding and

> > > interpretetion...

> > >

> > > Thank You,

> > >

> > > Yogesh Shah

> > >

> > > --- In

, "jitjag1" <jitjag1>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi Visti Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Her parents gave two different

timing i.e. 5.00 AM and 2.00

> PM...

> > > > Birth Date : 03- Sep-1967 ,

Place : Madison , WI, USA

> > >

> > > > 1>5.00 AM gives

> > >

>

Rasi

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > |

\

/ \

HL / |

> > > > |

\

/ \

Ju / |

> > > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > >

| \ 6

/ Su \

/ |

> > > >

| \

/

\ 4 / |

> > > >

|Ke 7 x

Me As VeR x

3 Md |

> > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > >

| /

\ Mo

/ \ |

> > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > |

/

\ 5 /

Gk \ |

> > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > >

|

Ma 8 x

2

GL |

> > > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > > |

\

/ 11 \ AL

/ |

> > > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > >

| 9

x

x 1 Ra |

> > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > >

| / 10

\

/ 12 \ |

> > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > |

/

\ /

SaR \ |

> > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > >

+--------------+

> > > >

> > > > she has 3 son and jupiter is

in 12th house and 5th house is

> > > aspected

> > > > by saturn so Leo cann't

be her ascendant. After that i

changed

> > > time

> > > > to 4.50 AM and ascendant

changed to Cancer with Jupiter in

it..

> > > >

> > > > 2> 4.50 AM

> > > >

> > >

>

Rasi

> > > >

+--------------+

> > > > | \

Mo Me /

\

Md / |

> > > > |

\ Su

/ \

HL / |

> > > > | \

VeR

/

\

/ |

> > > >

| \

/ Ju

\ 3 / |

> > > >

| \

5/

\ / |

> > > >

|AL 6

x

As x

2 Gk |

> > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > |

/

\ 4 /

GL \ |

> > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > >

|

Ke 7 x

1

Ra |

> > > > | \

/

\

/ |

> > > > |

\

/ 10

\

/ |

> > > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > >

|Ma 8

x

x 12 SaR |

> > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > >

| / 9

\

/ 11 \ |

> > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > >

+--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Which matches her few past

events ... Jupiter , putra karka

> > > exalted

> > > > and aspecting 5th(1st son),7th

house(2nd son) and 9th house

> (3rd

> > > > son). also 5th house lord is

placed in 5th house ...

> > > >

> > > > Also Rahu is in 10th house

shows she has problem with her

> > > colleagues

> > > > and i have been witness of it.

Also currently Gochar rahu is

on

> > > > Natal Rahu .. so It shows

issue related to career...

> > > >

> > > > Timing : 2.00 PM...

> > >

>

Rasi

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \

Gk

/

\

/ |

> > > > |

\ Md

/ \

Ke / |

> > > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > >

| \

/ Ma

\ 7 / |

> > > >

| \ 9

/

\ / |

> > > >

| 10

x

As x

6 AL

|

> > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > |

/

\ 8 /

Mo \ |

> > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > >

|

11 x 5VeR

Su |

> > > > |

\

/ 2

\

/ |

> > > > |

\

/ \

Me / |

> > > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > > |SaR GL 12

x

x 4 Ju |

> > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > >

| / 1

\

/ 3 \ |

> > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > |

/ Ra

\

/

\ |

> > > > | /

HL

\

/

\ |

> > > >

+--------------+

> > > >

> > > > This chart also show the

tension at work front but saturn's

> > > presence

> > > > in makes bit difficult to

explain 3 sons... Also Normally i

> have

> > > > noticed that if Mars is in

ascendant , normally person has

some

> > > > marks due to injury on

forhead which is not present in her

> > case .

> > > > Also combination of 9th , 10th

, 11th (also 8th) and 7th (

also

> > > > 12th) lords in 10th is great

raja yoga but she is not

enjoying

> > any

> > > > Raja yoga .. Also as per

Dr. B.V. Raman If Rahu in 6th ,

> native

> > > > will not have many enemies,

which is not true in her case...

> > > >

> > > > Visti Ji, Do you think that

the reasons given by me are on

> right

> > > > direction or did i miss

manythings.. first of all since she

is

> > > very

> > > > nice to me so i am bit biased

while looking at her chart...

> > > >

> > > > Thank You,

> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, "Visti Larsen"

> <visti@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > Try Scorpio or

Capricorn lagna - It seems, at her work

> place,

> > > > somebody is

> > > > > jealous and has given her

some bad-reputation, which is the

> > > reason

> > > > for her

> > > > > demotion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > > visti@s...

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > Jitjag

[jitjag1]

> > > > > 25 November 2004

21:14

> > > > > To:

> > > > > RE: [Om Krishna

Guru] how to rectify time of birth

> for

> > > > this chart

> > > > > -- to Visti ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Visti Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank You for quick

reply.. She was my ex-manger .. she

> helped

> > > me

> > > > a lot

> > > > > during last 1 and half

year ...

> > > > >

> > > > > you said that ...

> > > > >

> > > > > >>however there is

some sort of jealousy going on, which is

> > > > obstructing it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Could you please explain

what it means?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank You,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

<visti@s...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > With such little

information about the birthtime, you

should

> > > have

> > > > applied

> > > > > Nashta Jdtaka

Prasna principles on her chart to find the

> right

> > > > birthtime.

> > > > > Drawing a prasna and

asking someone else to answer it

defies

> > the

> > > > point of

> > > > > drawing it in the first

place. From the Prasna I drew, I

saw

> a

> > > > possibility

> > > > > of a promotion, however

there is some sort of jealousy

going

> > on,

> > > > which is

> > > > > obstructing it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please tell how this

person is related to you so I can

> continue.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > > visti@s...

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > jitjag1

[jitjag1]

> > > > > 25 November 2004

19:19

> > > > > To:

> > > > > [Om Krishna

Guru] how to rectify time of birth for

> > this

> > > > chart -- to

> > > > > Visti ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > I got

Date of birth from a person who just got demoted

> from

> > > > > Manager's position to

Project manager .. (initially 5 ppl

> > > > reporting

> > > > > and now none is reporting

to her) and she has has to report

> to

> > > her

> > > > > colleague. Also one of

her junior who was reporting to her

> got

> > > > > double promotion and he

will lead her past team.

> > > > >

> > > > > Birth Date : 03- Sep-1967

, Place : Madison , WI, USA

> > > > >

> > > > > Parent gave her two diff.

time of birth : 2,00 AM and 5.0

PM.

> > > > >

> > > > > past event ...

> > > > >

> > > > > 1> three sons...

> > > > > 2> one year back

husband went thru cataract operation.

> > > > > 3> has one sister.

> > > > > 4> Husband was not

working for long time .. very recently

15-

> 20

> > > > days

> > > > > back started working

again.

> > > > > 5> around 15 months

back 2nd son had fracture...

> > > > > 6> Very diwn to earth

lady, won't hesitate to say truth...

> > > > > 7> Very passionate

about her work.

> > > > > 8>She got news of

demotion om 16th Sep'2004 between 3.30 to

> 4.00

> > > > > 10> she still tells

that the person who got promoted is

very

> > > nice

> > > > > person .. shows how kind

hearted she is !!!

> > > > > 11>Very dominating in

nature...

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti ji , could you

please help me to rectify her time of

> > > > birth ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Today, I asked myself

question will she regain her position

> > > > >

> > > > > Date : Nov-25-2004

> > > > > Time : 10:52:41

> > > > > Place : Madison , WI.

> > > > >

> > > > > And i got vergottama

lagna and lagna lord ... lagna lord

> > > aspecting

> > > > > lagna .. so i think, she

will regain her position as soon

as

> > > Sani

> > > > > will be margi but i can

not come to conclusion that in same

> > > > company

> > > > > or other company ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Is my conclusion based on

Langa and Lagnes is corrct?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank You,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yogesh Shah

>

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Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar.

I am going on Vacation to Bombay, India at end of this week. I will

try to get copy of `Crux of Vedic'.

In previous mail you said that the It's possible to give neechbhanga

to Saturn in D-10 but it is difficult. Is it possible to produce

neechbhanga even though it is not there in Horoscope? I was not aware

that.

Also, In her D-10 chart Mars and Saturn both are neecha but both are

getting neechbhanga because for Mars, Moon is in Kendra from Lagna

and For Saturn, Venus is in Kendra from Lagna as well as Moon. Again

did I miss something for interpreting neechbhanga? (For neechbhanga I

am taking sloka 26 of Phaldeepika).

Thank You,

Yogesh Shah

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

>

> You can find most of the answers to this in Crux of Vedic

Astrology - 10th

> house Chapter.

>

> I shall be presenting some techniques for timing in this regard,

for this

> upcoming conference.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> 20 December 2004 20:36

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth for

this chart

> -- to Visti ji

>

> Dear Visti ji, Namsakar.

>

> Thanks again for reply. You said that planet in 7th house in D-10

> gives excuse to end your job, could you please explain how to find

> the timing of such events?

>

> Also there were two demotions at same time. In her scenario, she is

> demoted to one level down while another person got demoted to 3

level

> down. Beside that while announcing demotions her immediate boss

said

> many good things about her and also made her Project manage of very

> prestigious project (they did not gave her pink slip (even layoffs

> are on card)). Is it due to Jupiter, Mars well placed in D-1

Artha

> trikona or this things also should be judged from D-10 (9th lord

> Venus in 10th house in D-10)?

>

> When I was going thru some articles on how to read divisional

charts,

> which I have downloaded from the SJC site. According to it 5th

house

> in D-10 indicates change job and most of the time it happens in PD

of

> lord of the 5th. She is currently passing thru Mercury(which is

5th

> lord in D-10) PD and after that Ketu(which is in 11th house

aspecting

> 5th house) PD , does that mean both the PD are fav. For change in

job.

>

> Her D-10 does not have too much strength ( as per my little

> knowledge) , I could be wrong. She is very ambitious, How would

her

> career be?

>

> Thank you,

>

> Yogesh Shah

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > Planets in the 7th house in d10 give you excuses to end your job,

> This is

> > the case in her chart.

> >

> > The 5th lord Mercury have become weak due to Saturns debility. So

> if we

> > wanto enhance her potential we must enhance Mercury and ensure

> Saturn does

> > not get enhanced in the process. Another way is by giving Saturn

> neecha

> > bhanga in the D10, but this is much harder.

> >

> > The 10th house in the d1 chart shows how you work. This is

heavily

> based on

> > seasons and how people work during those seasons. Saturn is

Sisira

> Rtu,

> > namely Winter, and during this time everybody stays indoors most

of

> the

> > time. This causes long periods without jobs and then when the job

> is there,

> > the stress-load is huge.

> >

> > Everything we need to know about the job is seen in the d10.

> >

> > If she gets a promotion then it will be in the same job. If she

> gets a new

> > job, then a job-loss must be indicated. Mercury is however

> indicating the

> > latter, as it is 8th lord, so I doubt she will regain her

position.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> >

> > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Jitjag [jitjag1]

> > 19 December 2004 07:14

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth

for

> this

> > chart -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Dear Visti Ji , Namsakar.

> >

> > Initially when she asked her parent for TOB , she got 2 different

> time of

> > birth and that is why I was trying to rectify her TOB.

> >

> > In your mail you mentioned that "moon lord of 6th in 7th giving

> her some

> > ideas about converting her Job into a business" but as far as I

> know she is

> > not planning any business as of now she is just trying to come

out

> of this

> > shock because actually she was expecting promotion but altogether

> opposite

> > happend.

> >

> > I have read in many books that the Saturn in 10th gives very

> revolutionary

> > results like sudden ups and downs and exactly same thing

> happening with

> > her also... I am still learning Jyotish and still i do rely too

> much on the

> > Rasi chart ( because not knowing how to interprete Divisional

> charts) . I

> > will send my reading to group tomorrow so you and other learned

> member can

> > teach/correct me.

> >

> > You also mentioned that debiliated Saturn and Mer is 3rd house

> in D-10

> > and you recommed her to wear emrald to strenghtn Mer .. But since

> Mercury is

> > with the Saturn , Mercury dasa/antar/pratyanpar dasa also will

not

> be

> > favorable , is that correct ?

> >

> > Also, will she regain position in same company or other company?

> How can we

> > see that .. which house/divisional chart should be considered for

> that?

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > Im curious why was this a lost horoscope before?

> >

> > Vimshottari is fine for this chart, open the dasamsa and see that

> Moon maha

> > dagd is running and is the 6th lord in 7th giving her some ideas

> about

> > converting her job into a business.

> >

> > Saturn antara dasa is running so check Saturn;

> >

> > See that the 5th lord mercury is joined a debilitated Saturn

this

> is very

> > bad, especially as Saturn is lagna lord, showing bad name,

> reputation and a

> > resultant demotion. The good side is that Lagna lord Rdhu is

> exalted in the

> > 5th house, but this has other downsides, such as over-dependancy

on

> others

> > to do the work.

> >

> > The demotion happened in 16th Nov, during Moon-Saturn-Saturn.

Right

> now

> > Moon-Saturn-Mercury is running and if we give her an emerald to

> wear then we

> > can get her promoted quicker ENSURE that she is not wearing a

blue

> saffire!

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> >

> > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Jitjag [jitjag1]

> > 17 December 2004 21:07

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth

for

> this

> > chart -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Sorry , it for typo

> >

> > Got news of demotion on on 16th Nov'04 instead of 16th Sep'04.

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > Jitjag <jitjag1> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Visti ji,

> >

> > Finally got My ex-manager's correct time of birth,

> >

> > Date : 03-sep-1967

> >

> > Place: Wausau, Wisconsin,USA

> >

> > Time : 01.58 AM

> >

> > Got news of demotion on on 16th Sep'2004.

> >

> > Could you please now analyze her chart and tell, will she be able

> to regain

> > her position , yes then when ? How her career will be?

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > Comments below.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> >

> > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > 30 November 2004 22:51

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth for

> this chart

> > -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar

> >

> > I have a friend who has Mars with Scorpio ascendant and he is

> skinny

> > so just got carried away with that. I am aware of that the

Scorpio

> is

> > Kapha.

> >

> > [Visti] Mars can give a very thin waist.

> >

> > I have one more question for you if planet is owner of two rashis

> > (except Moon and Sun) in that scenario while interpreting results

> > which house ownership should be given more important compare to

> other

> > house.

> >

> > [Visti] Rafal knows the answer to this, ask him.

> >

> > If we take her chart with scorpio ascendant then Mercury became

> lord

> > of 8th and 11th 8th house and lord indicates the demotion or

> degrade

> > of person. But 11th house and lord of 11th indicates Labh i.e.

> > benefits How to interpret it's association with 10th lord in 10th

> > house.

> >

> > >From Prasna chart you predicted that she will be promoted but

you

> did

> > not mention when , could you please tell tentative time period.

> >

> > Thank You,

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > >

> > > I have Scorpio Lagna with the Sun in it, and I have put on a

good

> > ammount of

> > > weight. First learn the Dosha's of Ayurveda; Vaata, Pitta,

Kapha

> and

> > > Tridoshic. Did you know that Scorpio is Kapha?

> > >

> > > As for her regaining of position, I still cannot say anything

> just

> > with the

> > > Rdgi, but I have given my oppinion based on the Prasna chart.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> > >

> > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > > 29 November 2004 17:39

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth for

> > this chart

> > > -- to Visti ji

> > >

> > > Dear Visti Ji,

> > > Her Mars is debilitated in the Navamsa. But aspected by

> > > Juites with 5th Drishti and still she is passing thru Moon

dasa .

> I

> > > am convinced by your explanation that her ascendant is Scorpio,

> If

> > we

> > > take scorpio ascendant then 10th house has Sun (lord of 10th) ,

> > Moon

> > > (lord of 9th) , Mercury ( lord of 8th and 11th) and Venus (lord

> of

> > > 7th and 12th ) . 8th house denotes the degradation and since

8th

> > lord

> > > is in 10th house with 10th lord gives demotion due to

subordinate

> (

> > > As per Dr. B.V. Raman , how to judge horoscope part II) and

> exactly

> > > same thing happened with her Still need to work on the Dasas.

> > > If we take Scorpio asc. then will she regain her position ?

If

> > > yes , when?

> > > One more question, if Ascendant is in Krur planets rashis (i.e.

> > > Rashis of Mars, Sun and Saturn ) and Krur planet is present in

> the

> > > Ascendant then stature of native would be skinny or slim but

she

> is

> > > not skinny at all.

> > >

> > > Thank You,

> > > Yogesh Shah

> > >

> > > , "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Check the Navdmga dispositor of Mars if its well placed,

then

> > she

> > > may

> > > > enjoy.

> > > >

> > > > As for Rdhu in 6th house I find that such people have

terrible

> > > enemies!

> > > > Look at Sri Rama's chart: Rdhu in 6th house you think He and

> > > Ravana were

> > > > friends?

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> > > >

> > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > Jitjag [jitjag1]

> > > > 28 November 2004 20:27

> > > >

> > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of birth

for

> > > this chart

> > > > -- to Visti ji

> > > >

> > > > Thank You Visti Ji.

> > > >

> > > > I have one doubt about Scorpio as Ascendant . If scorpio is

> > > ascendant then

> > > > Retro Sat. is in 5th house and she has 3 sons . Also 9th,10th

> and

> > > 11th lord

> > > > in 10th house which is Dharma-Karmadhi pati yoga most

powerful

> > yoga

> > > and Mars

> > > > in 1st house scorpio which is one more maha purusha yoga But

> she

> > is

> > > not

> > > > enjoying any Raj yoga .. Also as per Dr. B.V. Raman if Rahu

is

> in

> > > 6th,

> > > > native will not have enemies which is not true in her case.

> > > >

> > > > I think i am tryin to come to conclusion with only Rasi Chart

> and

> > > that is

> > > > why i am asking so many question.

> > > >

> > > > Thank You,

> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Im pretty convinced that its Scorpio. Mars in Lagna can act

> like

> > a

> > > General

> > > > and be very dominating.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> > > >

> > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > > > 28 November 2004 16:47

> > > >

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of birth

for

> > > this chart

> > > > -- to Visti ji

> > > >

> > > > Hi Visti Ji, Namsakar..

> > > >

> > > > Based on my limited knowledge i tried to find out the

ascendant

> > of

> > > > my ex-manager.

> > > > Could you please give your opinion about my understanding and

> > > > interpretetion...

> > > >

> > > > Thank You,

> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > >

> > > > , "jitjag1" <jitjag1>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Visti Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Her parents gave two different timing i.e. 5.00 AM and 2.00

> > PM...

> > > > > Birth Date : 03- Sep-1967 , Place : Madison , WI, USA

> > > >

> > > > > 1>5.00 AM gives

> > > > > Rasi

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ / \ HL / |

> > > > > | \ / \ Ju / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ 6 / Su \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ 4 / |

> > > > > |Ke 7 x Me As VeR x 3 Md |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ Mo / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ 5 / Gk \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | Ma 8 x 2 GL |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / 11 \ AL / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | 9 x x 1 Ra |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / 10 \ / 12 \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / SaR \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > she has 3 son and jupiter is in 12th house and 5th house is

> > > > aspected

> > > > > by saturn so Leo cann't be her ascendant. After that i

> changed

> > > > time

> > > > > to 4.50 AM and ascendant changed to Cancer with Jupiter in

> it..

> > > > >

> > > > > 2> 4.50 AM

> > > > >

> > > > > Rasi

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ Mo Me / \ Md / |

> > > > > | \ Su / \ HL / |

> > > > > | \ VeR / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Ju \ 3 / |

> > > > > | \ 5/ \ / |

> > > > > |AL 6 x As x 2 Gk |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ 4 / GL \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | Ke 7 x 1 Ra |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / 10 \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Ma 8 x x 12 SaR |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / 9 \ / 11 \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Which matches her few past events ... Jupiter , putra karka

> > > > exalted

> > > > > and aspecting 5th(1st son),7th house(2nd son) and 9th house

> > (3rd

> > > > > son). also 5th house lord is placed in 5th house ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Also Rahu is in 10th house shows she has problem with her

> > > > colleagues

> > > > > and i have been witness of it. Also currently Gochar rahu

is

> on

> > > > > Natal Rahu .. so It shows issue related to career...

> > > > >

> > > > > Timing : 2.00 PM...

> > > > > Rasi

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ Gk / \ / |

> > > > > | \ Md / \ Ke / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Ma \ 7 / |

> > > > > | \ 9 / \ / |

> > > > > | 10 x As x 6 AL |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ 8 / Mo \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | 11 x 5VeR Su |

> > > > > | \ / 2 \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ Me / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |SaR GL 12 x x 4 Ju |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / 1 \ / 3 \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Ra \ / \ |

> > > > > | / HL \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > This chart also show the tension at work front but saturn's

> > > > presence

> > > > > in makes bit difficult to explain 3 sons... Also Normally i

> > have

> > > > > noticed that if Mars is in ascendant , normally person has

> some

> > > > > marks due to injury on forhead which is not present in her

> > > case .

> > > > > Also combination of 9th , 10th , 11th (also 8th) and 7th (

> also

> > > > > 12th) lords in 10th is great raja yoga but she is not

> enjoying

> > > any

> > > > > Raja yoga .. Also as per Dr. B.V. Raman If Rahu in 6th ,

> > native

> > > > > will not have many enemies, which is not true in her case...

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Ji, Do you think that the reasons given by me are on

> > right

> > > > > direction or did i miss manythings.. first of all since she

> is

> > > > very

> > > > > nice to me so i am bit biased while looking at her chart...

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank You,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > <visti@s...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Try Scorpio or Capricorn lagna - It seems, at her work

> > place,

> > > > > somebody is

> > > > > > jealous and has given her some bad-reputation, which is

the

> > > > reason

> > > > > for her

> > > > > > demotion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > visti@s...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jitjag [jitjag1]

> > > > > > 25 November 2004 21:14

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of

birth

> > for

> > > > > this chart

> > > > > > -- to Visti ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Visti Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank You for quick reply.. She was my ex-manger .. she

> > helped

> > > > me

> > > > > a lot

> > > > > > during last 1 and half year ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you said that ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >>however there is some sort of jealousy going on, which

is

> > > > > obstructing it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Could you please explain what it means?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank You,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With such little information about the birthtime, you

> should

> > > > have

> > > > > applied

> > > > > > Nashta Jdtaka Prasna principles on her chart to find the

> > right

> > > > > birthtime.

> > > > > > Drawing a prasna and asking someone else to answer it

> defies

> > > the

> > > > > point of

> > > > > > drawing it in the first place. From the Prasna I drew, I

> saw

> > a

> > > > > possibility

> > > > > > of a promotion, however there is some sort of jealousy

> going

> > > on,

> > > > > which is

> > > > > > obstructing it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please tell how this person is related to you so I can

> > continue.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > visti@s...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > > > > > 25 November 2004 19:19

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of birth

for

> > > this

> > > > > chart -- to

> > > > > > Visti ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I got Date of birth from a person who just got

demoted

> > from

> > > > > > Manager's position to Project manager .. (initially 5 ppl

> > > > > reporting

> > > > > > and now none is reporting to her) and she has has to

report

> > to

> > > > her

> > > > > > colleague. Also one of her junior who was reporting to

her

> > got

> > > > > > double promotion and he will lead her past team.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Birth Date : 03- Sep-1967 , Place : Madison , WI, USA

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Parent gave her two diff. time of birth : 2,00 AM and 5.0

> PM.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > past event ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1> three sons...

> > > > > > 2> one year back husband went thru cataract operation.

> > > > > > 3> has one sister.

> > > > > > 4> Husband was not working for long time .. very recently

> 15-

> > 20

> > > > > days

> > > > > > back started working again.

> > > > > > 5> around 15 months back 2nd son had fracture...

> > > > > > 6> Very diwn to earth lady, won't hesitate to say truth...

> > > > > > 7> Very passionate about her work.

> > > > > > 8>She got news of demotion om 16th Sep'2004 between 3.30

to

> > 4.00

> > > > > > 10> she still tells that the person who got promoted is

> very

> > > > nice

> > > > > > person .. shows how kind hearted she is !!!

> > > > > > 11>Very dominating in nature...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti ji , could you please help me to rectify her time

of

> > > > > birth ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Today, I asked myself question will she regain her

position

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Date : Nov-25-2004

> > > > > > Time : 10:52:41

> > > > > > Place : Madison , WI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And i got vergottama lagna and lagna lord ... lagna lord

> > > > aspecting

> > > > > > lagna .. so i think, she will regain her position as soon

> as

> > > > Sani

> > > > > > will be margi but i can not come to conclusion that in

same

> > > > > company

> > > > > > or other company ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is my conclusion based on Langa and Lagnes is corrct?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank You,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yogesh Shah

> >

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

You see, the extent of neecha bhanga that

a planet gets can also be measured. This is a rule of 4 processes, based on the

4 instances that can cause neecha bhanga namely; 1) lord of exaltation sign 2)

lord of debilitation sign 3) planet which gets exalted in the debilitation sign

4) exaltation in navamsa.

If all 4 cases are there, it is called

Neecha Bhanga Räjya Yoga. Same applies to all 3.

If only 2 are there then some benefits are

there, but if only 1 is there, then it’s a small and almost unnoticed

rise.

Based on this I made the assesment.

Now if the planets causing neecha bhanga

are placed in kendra to Lagna, then the neecha bhanga will come automatically,

and gems can be worn to cause it.

If instead the planets causing neecha

bhanga are placed in a kendra to Moon, then mantras are required.

Best wishes,

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21 December 2004 17:05

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: how

to rectify time of birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

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Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar.

I am going on Vacation to Bombay, India

at end of this week. I will

try to get copy of `Crux of Vedic'.

In previous mail you said that the It's possible

to give neechbhanga

to Saturn in D-10 but it is difficult. Is it

possible to produce

neechbhanga even though it is not there in

Horoscope? I was not aware

that.

Also, In her D-10 chart Mars and Saturn both are

neecha but both are

getting neechbhanga because for Mars, Moon is in

Kendra from Lagna

and For Saturn, Venus is in Kendra from Lagna as

well as Moon. Again

did I miss something for interpreting neechbhanga?

(For neechbhanga I

am taking sloka 26 of Phaldeepika).

Thank You,

Yogesh Shah

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

>

> You can find most of the answers to this in

Crux of Vedic

Astrology - 10th

> house Chapter.

>

> I shall be presenting some techniques for

timing in this regard,

for this

> upcoming conference.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> 20 December 2004 20:36

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify

time of birth for

this chart

> -- to Visti ji

>

> Dear Visti ji, Namsakar.

>

> Thanks again for reply. You said that

planet in 7th house in D-10

> gives excuse to end your job, could you

please explain how to find

> the timing of such events?

>

> Also there were two demotions at same time.

In her scenario, she is

> demoted to one level down while another

person got demoted to 3

level

> down. Beside that while announcing demotions

her immediate boss

said

> many good things about her and also made her

Project manage of very

> prestigious project (they did not gave her

pink slip (even layoffs

> are on card)). Is it due to

Jupiter, Mars well placed in D-1

Artha

> trikona or this things also should be judged

from D-10 (9th lord

> Venus in 10th house in D-10)?

>

> When I was going thru some articles on how to

read divisional

charts,

> which I have downloaded from the SJC site.

According to it 5th

house

> in D-10 indicates change job and most of the

time it happens in PD

of

> lord of the 5th. She is currently

passing thru Mercury(which is

5th

> lord in D-10) PD and after that Ketu(which is

in 11th house

aspecting

> 5th house) PD , does that mean both the PD

are fav. For change in

job.

>

> Her D-10 does not have too much strength ( as

per my little

> knowledge) , I could be wrong. She is very

ambitious, How would

her

> career be?

>

> Thank you,

>

> Yogesh Shah

>

> ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > Planets in the 7th house in d10 give you

excuses to end your job,

> This is

> > the case in her chart.

> >

> > The 5th lord Mercury have become weak

due to Saturns debility. So

> if we

> > wanto enhance her potential we must

enhance Mercury and ensure

> Saturn does

> > not get enhanced in the process. Another

way is by giving Saturn

> neecha

> > bhanga in the D10, but this is much

harder.

> >

> > The 10th house in the d1 chart shows how

you work. This is

heavily

> based on

> > seasons and how people work during those

seasons. Saturn is

Sisira

> Rtu,

> > namely Winter, and during this time everybody

stays indoors most

of

> the

> > time. This causes long periods without

jobs and then when the job

> is there,

> > the stress-load is huge.

> >

> > Everything we need to know about the job

is seen in the d10.

> >

> > If she gets a promotion then it will be

in the same job. If she

> gets a new

> > job, then a job-loss must be indicated.

Mercury is however

> indicating the

> > latter, as it is 8th lord, so I doubt

she will regain her

position.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> >

> > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Jitjag [jitjag1]

> > 19 December 2004 07:14

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how

to rectify time of birth

for

> this

> > chart -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Dear Visti Ji , Namsakar.

> >

> > Initially when she asked her parent for

TOB , she got 2 different

> time of

> > birth and that is why I was trying to

rectify her TOB.

> >

> > In your mail you mentioned that

"moon lord of 6th in 7th giving

> her some

> > ideas about converting her Job into a

business" but as far as I

> know she is

> > not planning any business as of now she

is just trying to come

out

> of this

> > shock because actually she was expecting

promotion but altogether

> opposite

> > happend.

> >

> > I have read in many books that the

Saturn in 10th gives very

> revolutionary

> > results like sudden ups and downs

and exactly same thing

> happening with

> > her also... I am still learning Jyotish

and still i do rely too

> much on the

> > Rasi chart ( because not knowing how to

interprete Divisional

> charts) . I

> > will send my reading to group tomorrow

so you and other learned

> member can

> > teach/correct me.

> >

> > You also mentioned that debiliated

Saturn and Mer is 3rd house

> in D-10

> > and you recommed her to wear emrald to

strenghtn Mer .. But since

> Mercury is

> > with the Saturn , Mercury

dasa/antar/pratyanpar dasa also will

not

> be

> > favorable , is that correct ?

> >

> > Also, will she regain position in same

company or other company?

> How can we

> > see that .. which house/divisional chart

should be considered for

> that?

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > Im curious why was this a

lost horoscope before?

> >

> > Vimshottari is fine for this chart, open

the dasamsa and see that

> Moon maha

> > dagd is running and is the 6th lord in

7th giving her some ideas

> about

> > converting her job into a business.

> >

> > Saturn antara dasa is running so check

Saturn;

> >

> > See that the 5th lord mercury is joined

a debilitated Saturn

this

> is very

> > bad, especially as Saturn is lagna lord,

showing bad name,

> reputation and a

> > resultant demotion. The good side is

that Lagna lord Rdhu is

> exalted in the

> > 5th house, but this has other downsides,

such as over-dependancy

on

> others

> > to do the work.

> >

> > The demotion happened in 16th Nov,

during Moon-Saturn-Saturn.

Right

> now

> > Moon-Saturn-Mercury is running and if we

give her an emerald to

> wear then we

> > can get her promoted quicker ENSURE that

she is not wearing a

blue

> saffire!

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> >

> > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Jitjag [jitjag1]

> > 17 December 2004 21:07

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how

to rectify time of birth

for

> this

> > chart -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Sorry , it for typo

> >

> > Got news of demotion on on

16th Nov'04 instead of 16th Sep'04.

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > Jitjag <jitjag1> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Visti ji,

> >

> > Finally got My ex-manager's

correct time of birth,

> >

> > Date : 03-sep-1967

> >

> > Place: Wausau, Wisconsin,USA

> >

> > Time : 01.58 AM

> >

> > Got news of demotion on on

16th Sep'2004.

> >

> > Could you please now analyze her chart

and tell, will she be able

> to regain

> > her position , yes then when ? How her

career will be?

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > Comments below.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> >

> > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > 30 November 2004 22:51

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to

rectify time of birth for

> this chart

> > -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar

> >

> > I have a friend who has Mars with

Scorpio ascendant and he is

> skinny

> > so just got carried away with that. I am

aware of that the

Scorpio

> is

> > Kapha.

> >

> > [Visti] Mars can give a very thin waist.

> >

> > I have one more question for you if

planet is owner of two rashis

> > (except Moon and Sun) in that scenario

while interpreting results

> > which house ownership should be given

more important compare to

> other

> > house.

> >

> > [Visti] Rafal knows the answer to this,

ask him.

> >

> > If we take her chart with scorpio

ascendant then Mercury became

> lord

> > of 8th and 11th 8th house and lord

indicates the demotion or

> degrade

> > of person. But 11th house and lord of

11th indicates Labh i.e.

> > benefits How to interpret it's

association with 10th lord in 10th

> > house.

> >

> > >From Prasna chart you predicted that

she will be promoted but

you

> did

> > not mention when , could you please tell

tentative time period.

> >

> > Thank You,

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > >

> > > I have Scorpio Lagna with the Sun

in it, and I have put on a

good

> > ammount of

> > > weight. First learn the Dosha's of

Ayurveda; Vaata, Pitta,

Kapha

> and

> > > Tridoshic. Did you know that

Scorpio is Kapha?

> > >

> > > As for her regaining of position, I

still cannot say anything

> just

> > with the

> > > Rdgi, but I have given my oppinion

based on the Prasna chart.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > >

> > > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > > 29 November 2004 17:39

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how

to rectify time of birth for

> > this chart

> > > -- to Visti ji

> > >

> > > Dear Visti Ji,

> >

> Her Mars is debilitated in

the Navamsa. But aspected by

> > > Juites with 5th Drishti and still

she is passing thru Moon

dasa .

> I

> > > am convinced by your explanation

that her ascendant is Scorpio,

> If

> > we

> > > take scorpio ascendant then 10th

house has Sun (lord of 10th) ,

> > Moon

> > > (lord of 9th) , Mercury ( lord of

8th and 11th) and Venus (lord

> of

> > > 7th and 12th ) . 8th house denotes

the degradation and since

8th

> > lord

> > > is in 10th house with 10th lord

gives demotion due to

subordinate

> (

> > > As per Dr. B.V. Raman , how to

judge horoscope part II) and

> exactly

> > > same thing happened with her

Still need to work on the Dasas.

> > > If we take Scorpio asc.

then will she regain her position ?

If

> > > yes , when?

> > > One more question, if Ascendant is

in Krur planets rashis (i.e.

> > > Rashis of Mars, Sun and Saturn )

and Krur planet is present in

> the

> > > Ascendant then stature of native

would be skinny or slim but

she

> is

> > > not skinny at all.

> > >

> > > Thank You,

> > > Yogesh Shah

> > >

> > > ,

"Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Check the Navdmga dispositor

of Mars if its well placed,

then

> > she

> > > may

> > > > enjoy.

> > > >

> > > > As for Rdhu in 6th house I

find that such people have

terrible

> > > enemies!

> > > > Look at Sri Rama's chart: Rdhu

in 6th house you think He and

> > > Ravana were

> > > > friends?

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > Jitjag

[jitjag1]

> > > > 28 November 2004 20:27

> > > > To:

> > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

how to rectify time of birth

for

> > > this chart

> > > > -- to Visti ji

> > > >

> > > > Thank You Visti Ji.

> > > >

> > > > I have one doubt about Scorpio

as Ascendant . If scorpio is

> > > ascendant then

> > > > Retro Sat. is in 5th house and

she has 3 sons . Also 9th,10th

> and

> > > 11th lord

> > > > in 10th house which is

Dharma-Karmadhi pati yoga most

powerful

> > yoga

> > > and Mars

> > > > in 1st house scorpio which is

one more maha purusha yoga But

> she

> > is

> > > not

> > > > enjoying any Raj yoga .. Also

as per Dr. B.V. Raman if Rahu

is

> in

> > > 6th,

> > > > native will not have enemies

which is not true in her case.

> > > >

> > > > I think i am tryin to come to

conclusion with only Rasi Chart

> and

> > > that is

> > > > why i am asking so many

question.

> > > >

> > > > Thank You,

> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

<visti@s...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Im pretty convinced that

its Scorpio. Mars in Lagna can act

> like

> > a

> > > General

> > > > and be very dominating.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > jitjag1

[jitjag1]

> > > > 28 November 2004 16:47

> > > > To:

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

how to rectify time of birth

for

> > > this chart

> > > > -- to Visti ji

> > > >

> > > > Hi Visti Ji, Namsakar..

> > > >

> > > > Based on my limited knowledge

i tried to find out the

ascendant

> > of

> > > > my ex-manager.

> > > > Could you please give your

opinion about my understanding and

> > > > interpretetion...

> > > >

> > > > Thank You,

> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, "jitjag1" <jitjag1>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Visti Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Her parents gave two

different timing i.e. 5.00 AM and 2.00

> > PM...

> > > > > Birth Date : 03- Sep-1967

, Place : Madison , WI, USA

> > > >

> > > > > 1>5.00 AM gives

> > > >

>

Rasi

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > |

\

/ \

HL / |

> > > > > |

\

/ \

Ju / |

> > > > > |

\

/

\ /

|

> > > > >

| \ 6

/ Su

\ / |

> > > > >

| \

/

\ 4 / |

> > > > >

|Ke 7 x

Me As VeR x

3 Md |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > >

| /

\ Mo

/ \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/ \

|

> > > > > |

/

\ 5 /

Gk \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > >

|

Ma 8 x

2

GL |

> > > > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > > > |

\

/ 11 \ AL

/ |

> > > > > |

\

/

\ /

|

> > > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > > >

| 9

x

x 1 Ra |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > >

| / 10

\

/ 12 \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > > |

/

\ /

SaR \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > she has 3 son and jupiter

is in 12th house and 5th house is

> > > > aspected

> > > > > by saturn so Leo

cann't be her ascendant. After that i

> changed

> > > > time

> > > > > to 4.50 AM and

ascendant changed to Cancer with Jupiter in

> it..

> > > > >

> > > > > 2> 4.50 AM

> > > > >

> > > >

>

Rasi

> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > > |

\ Mo Me

/ \

Md / |

> > > > > |

\ Su

/ \

HL / |

> > > > > |

\ VeR

/

\

/ |

> > > > >

| \

/ Ju

\ 3 / |

> > > > >

| \

5/

\ / |

> > > > >

|AL 6

x

As x

2 Gk |

> > > > > |

/

\

/ \ |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/ \

|

> > > > > |

/

\ 4 /

GL \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > >

|

Ke 7 x

1

Ra |

> > > > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > > > |

\

/ 10

\

/ |

> > > > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > > >

|Ma 8

x

x 12 SaR |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > >

| / 9

\

/ 11 \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/ \

|

> > > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Which matches her few

past events ... Jupiter , putra karka

> > > > exalted

> > > > > and aspecting 5th(1st

son),7th house(2nd son) and 9th house

> > (3rd

> > > > > son). also 5th house lord

is placed in 5th house ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Also Rahu is in 10th

house shows she has problem with her

> > > > colleagues

> > > > > and i have been witness

of it. Also currently Gochar rahu

is

> on

> > > > > Natal Rahu .. so It shows

issue related to career...

> > > > >

> > > > > Timing : 2.00 PM...

> > > >

>

Rasi

> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > > |

\

Gk

/

\

/ |

> > > > > |

\ Md

/ \

Ke / |

> > > > > |

\

/

\ /

|

> > > > >

| \

/ Ma

\ 7 / |

> > > > >

| \ 9

/

\ / |

> > > > > |

10 x

As x

6 AL

|

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/ \

|

> > > > > |

/

\ 8 /

Mo \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > >

|

11 x 5VeR

Su |

> > > > > |

\

/ 2

\

/ |

> > > > > |

\

/ \ Me

/ |

> > > > > |

\

/

\ /

|

> > > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > > > |SaR GL 12

x

x 4 Ju |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > >

| / 1

\

/ 3 \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/ \

|

> > > > > |

/ Ra

\

/

\ |

> > > > > |

/

HL

\

/

\ |

> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > This chart also show the

tension at work front but saturn's

> > > > presence

> > > > > in makes bit difficult to

explain 3 sons... Also Normally i

> > have

> > > > > noticed that if Mars is

in ascendant , normally person has

> some

> > > > > marks due to injury on

forhead which is not present in her

> > > case .

> > > > > Also combination of 9th ,

10th , 11th (also 8th) and 7th (

> also

> > > > > 12th) lords in 10th is

great raja yoga but she is not

> enjoying

> > > any

> > > > > Raja yoga .. Also

as per Dr. B.V. Raman If Rahu in 6th ,

> > native

> > > > > will not have many

enemies, which is not true in her case...

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Ji, Do you think

that the reasons given by me are on

> > right

> > > > > direction or did i miss

manythings.. first of all since she

> is

> > > > very

> > > > > nice to me so i am bit

biased while looking at her chart...

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank You,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, "Visti Larsen"

> > <visti@s...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Yogesh,

Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Try Scorpio or

Capricorn lagna - It seems, at her work

> > place,

> > > > > somebody is

> > > > > > jealous and has

given her some bad-reputation, which is

the

> > > > reason

> > > > > for her

> > > > > > demotion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > visti@s...

> > > > > >

_____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jitjag

[jitjag1]

> > > > > > 25 November

2004 21:14

> > > > > > To:

> > > > > > RE: [Om

Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of

birth

> > for

> > > > > this chart

> > > > > > -- to Visti ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Visti Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank You for quick

reply.. She was my ex-manger .. she

> > helped

> > > > me

> > > > > a lot

> > > > > > during last 1 and

half year ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you said that ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >>however

there is some sort of jealousy going on, which

is

> > > > > obstructing it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Could you please

explain what it means?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank You,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

<visti@s...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Yogesh,

Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With such little

information about the birthtime, you

> should

> > > > have

> > > > > applied

> > > > > > Nashta Jdtaka

Prasna principles on her chart to find the

> > right

> > > > > birthtime.

> > > > > > Drawing a prasna and

asking someone else to answer it

> defies

> > > the

> > > > > point of

> > > > > > drawing it in the

first place. From the Prasna I drew, I

> saw

> > a

> > > > > possibility

> > > > > > of a promotion,

however there is some sort of jealousy

> going

> > > on,

> > > > > which is

> > > > > > obstructing it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please tell how this

person is related to you so I can

> > continue.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > visti@s...

> > > > > >

_____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > jitjag1

[jitjag1]

> > > > > > 25 November

2004 19:19

> > > > > > To:

> > > > > > [Om Krishna

Guru] how to rectify time of birth

for

> > > this

> > > > > chart -- to

> > > > > > Visti ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I

got Date of birth from a person who just got

demoted

> > from

> > > > > > Manager's position

to Project manager .. (initially 5 ppl

> > > > > reporting

> > > > > > and now none is

reporting to her) and she has has to

report

> > to

> > > > her

> > > > > > colleague. Also one

of her junior who was reporting to

her

> > got

> > > > > > double promotion and

he will lead her past team.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Birth Date : 03-

Sep-1967 , Place : Madison

, WI, USA

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Parent gave her two

diff. time of birth : 2,00 AM and 5.0

> PM.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > past event ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1> three sons...

> > > > > > 2> one year back

husband went thru cataract operation.

> > > > > > 3> has one

sister.

> > > > > > 4> Husband was

not working for long time .. very recently

> 15-

> > 20

> > > > > days

> > > > > > back started working

again.

> > > > > > 5> around 15

months back 2nd son had fracture...

> > > > > > 6> Very diwn to

earth lady, won't hesitate to say truth...

> > > > > > 7> Very

passionate about her work.

> > > > > > 8>She got news of

demotion om 16th Sep'2004 between 3.30

to

> > 4.00

> > > > > > 10> she still

tells that the person who got promoted is

> very

> > > > nice

> > > > > > person .. shows how

kind hearted she is !!!

> > > > > > 11>Very

dominating in nature...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti ji , could you

please help me to rectify her time

of

> > > > > birth ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Today, I asked

myself question will she regain her

position

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Date : Nov-25-2004

> > > > > > Time : 10:52:41

> > > > > > Place : Madison , WI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And i got vergottama

lagna and lagna lord ... lagna lord

> > > > aspecting

> > > > > > lagna .. so i think,

she will regain her position as soon

> as

> > > > Sani

> > > > > > will be margi but i

can not come to conclusion that in

same

> > > > > company

> > > > > > or other company ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is my conclusion

based on Langa and Lagnes is corrct?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank You,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yogesh Shah

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Thanks for your reply. You said that Planets causing neecha bhanga are in Kendra

from Ascendant then Gems can be worn it . now in her case , planet causing neech

bhanga is Venus so should she wear Diamond? But you recommended her to wear

emerald.

Sorry for asking so many question.. Also could you please tell more about her

career .. how would be her career?

Thank You,

Yogesh Shah

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

You see, the extent of neecha bhanga that a planet gets can also be measured.

This is a rule of 4 processes, based on the 4 instances that can cause neecha

bhanga namely; 1) lord of exaltation sign 2) lord of debilitation sign 3)

planet which gets exalted in the debilitation sign 4) exaltation in navamsa.

If all 4 cases are there, it is called Neecha Bhanga Räjya Yoga. Same applies to all 3.

If only 2 are there then some benefits are there, but if only 1 is there, then

it’s a small and almost unnoticed rise.

Based on this I made the assesment.

Now if the planets causing neecha bhanga are placed in kendra to Lagna, then the

neecha bhanga will come automatically, and gems can be worn to cause it.

If instead the planets causing neecha bhanga are placed in a kendra to Moon,

then mantras are required.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

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jitjag1 [jitjag1 ] 21 December 2004 17:05To:

Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time

of birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar.I am going on Vacation to Bombay, India at end of this

week. I will try to get copy of `Crux of Vedic'. In previous mail you said that

the It's possible to give neechbhanga to Saturn in D-10 but it is difficult. Is

it possible to produce neechbhanga even though it is not there in Horoscope? I

was not aware that.

New">Also, In her D-10 chart Mars and Saturn both are neecha but both are

getting neechbhanga because for Mars, Moon is in Kendra from Lagna and For

Saturn, Venus is in Kendra from Lagna as well as Moon. Again did I miss

something for interpreting neechbhanga? (For neechbhanga I am taking sloka 26

of Phaldeepika).Thank You,Yogesh Shah,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Yogesh,

Namaskar> > You can find most of the answers to this in Crux of Vedic Astrology

- 10th> house Chapter.> > I shall be presenting some techniques for timing in

this regard, for this> upcoming conference.> > Best wishes,> > > > > Visti

Larsen

New">> > http://srigaruda.com> > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > >

_____ > > jitjag1 [jitjag1] > 20 December 2004 20:36>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify

time of

birth for this chart> -- to Visti ji> > > > > Dear Visti ji, Namsakar.> >

Thanks again for reply. You said that planet in 7th house in D-10 > gives

excuse to end your job, could you please explain how to find > the timing of

such events? > > Also there were two demotions at same time. In her scenario,

she is

New">> demoted to one level down while another person got demoted to 3 level >

down. Beside that while announcing demotions her immediate boss said > many

good things about her and also made her Project manage of very > prestigious

project (they did not gave her pink slip (even layoffs > are on card)). Is it

due to Jupiter, Mars well placed in D-1 Artha > trikona or this things also

should be judged from D-10 (9th lord > Venus in 10th house in D-10)? >

New">> When I was going thru some articles on how to read divisional charts, >

which I have downloaded from the SJC site. According to it 5th house > in D-10

indicates change job and most of the time it happens in PD of > lord of the

5th. She is currently passing thru Mercury(which is 5th > lord in D-10) PD

and after that Ketu(which is in 11th house aspecting > 5th house) PD , does

that mean both the PD are fav. For change in job.> > Her D-10 does not have too

much strength ( as per my little > knowledge) , I could be wrong. She is very

ambitious, How would her > career be?> > Thank you,> > Yogesh Shah> > > > ---

In , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote:> > ||Hare

Rama

Krsna||> > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar> > > > Planets in the 7th house in d10 give

you excuses to end your job, > This is> > the case in her chart.> > > > The 5th

lord Mercury have become weak due to Saturns debility. So > if we> > wanto

enhance her potential we must enhance Mercury and ensure > Saturn does> > not

get enhanced in the process. Another way is by giving Saturn

> neecha> > bhanga in the D10, but this is much harder.> > > > The 10th house in

the d1 chart shows how you work. This is heavily > based on> > seasons and how

people work during those seasons. Saturn is Sisira > Rtu,> > namely Winter, and

during this time everybody stays indoors most of > the> > time. This causes long

periods without jobs and then when the job

> is there,> > the stress-load is huge.> > > > Everything we need to know about

the job is seen in the d10.> > > > If she gets a promotion then it will be in

the same job. If she > gets a new> > job, then a job-loss must be indicated.

Mercury is however > indicating the> > latter, as it is 8th lord, so I doubt

she will regain her position.> > > >

Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > http://srigaruda.com> > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > _____

> > > > Jitjag [jitjag1] > > 19 December 2004 07:14> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to

rectify time of birth for > this> > chart -- to Visti ji> > > > > > > > Dear

Visti Ji , Namsakar. > > > >

> > > > Initially when she asked her parent for TOB , she got 2 different > time

of> > birth and that is why I was trying to rectify her TOB. > > > > > > > >

In your mail you mentioned that "moon lord of 6th in 7th giving > her some> >

ideas about converting her Job into a business" but as far as I > know she is>

> not planning any business as of now she is just trying to come

out > of this> > shock because actually she was expecting promotion but

altogether > opposite> > happend.> > > > > > > > I have read in many books

that the Saturn in 10th gives very > revolutionary> > results like sudden ups

and downs and exactly same thing > happening with> > her also... I am still

learning Jyotish and still i do

rely too > much on the> > Rasi chart ( because not knowing how to interprete

Divisional > charts) . I> > will send my reading to group tomorrow so you and

other learned > member can> > teach/correct me.> > > > > > > > You also

mentioned that debiliated Saturn and Mer is 3rd house > in D-10> > and you

recommed her to wear emrald to strenghtn Mer .. But since

> Mercury is> > with the Saturn , Mercury dasa/antar/pratyanpar dasa also will

not > be> > favorable , is that correct ?> > > > > > > > Also, will she regain

position in same company or other company? > How can we> > see that .. which

house/divisional chart should be considered for > that? > > >

> > > > > Thank You,> > > > > > > > Yogesh Shah> > > > > > Visti Larsen

<visti@s...> wrote:> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar> >

> > Im curious why was this a lost

horoscope before?> > > > Vimshottari is fine for this chart, open the dasamsa

and see that > Moon maha> > dagd is running and is the 6th lord in 7th giving

her some ideas > about> > converting her job into a business.> > > > Saturn

antara dasa is running so check Saturn;> > > > See that the 5th lord mercury is

joined a debilitated Saturn this > is very

New">> > bad, especially as Saturn is lagna lord, showing bad name, > reputation

and a> > resultant demotion. The good side is that Lagna lord Rdhu is > exalted

in the> > 5th house, but this has other downsides, such as over-dependancy on >

others> > to do the work.> > > > The demotion happened in 16th Nov, during

Moon-Saturn-Saturn. Right > now> > Moon-Saturn-Mercury is running and if we

give her an

emerald to > wear then we> > can get her promoted quicker ENSURE that she is not

wearing a blue > saffire!> > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> >

> > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >

> > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > >

> > > Jitjag [jitjag1] > > 17 December 2004 21:07> > To:

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to

rectify

time of birth for > this> > chart -- to Visti ji> > > > > > > > Sorry , it for

typo > > > > Got news of demotion on on 16th Nov'04 instead of 16th Sep'04.>

> > > > > > > Thank You,> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Shah> > > > > > Jitjag <jitjag1> wrote:> > > > Dear Visti

ji,> > > > > > > > Finally got My ex-manager's correct time of birth,> > > >

> > > > Date : 03-sep-1967> > > > Place: Wausau, Wisconsin,USA> > > > Time :

01.58 AM> > > > > > > > Got news of demotion on on 16th Sep'2004.> > > > >

> > > Could you please now analyze her chart and tell, will she be able

New">> to regain> > her position , yes then when ? How her career will be?> > >

> > > > > Thank You,> > > > > > > > Yogesh Shah> > > > > > > > Visti Larsen

<visti@s...> wrote:> > > > ||Hare Rama

Krsna||> > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar> > > > Comments below.> > > > Best wishes,>

> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > >

http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > <visti@s...>

visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > jitjag1

[jitjag1] > > 30 November 2004

22:51> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how

to rectify time of birth for > this chart> > -- to Visti ji> > > > > > > > > >

Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar> > > > I have a friend who has Mars with Scorpio

ascendant and he is > skinny > > so just got carried away with that. I am aware

of that the

Scorpio > is > > Kapha. > > > > [Visti] Mars can give a very thin waist.> > > >

> > > > I have one more question for you if planet is owner of two rashis > >

(except Moon and Sun) in that scenario while interpreting results > > which

house ownership should be given more important compare to > other > > house. >

> > > [Visti] Rafal knows the answer to this, ask him.> > > > > > > > If we

take her chart with scorpio ascendant then Mercury became > lord > > of 8th and

11th 8th house and lord indicates the demotion or > degrade > > of person. But

11th house and lord of 11th indicates Labh i.e. > > benefits How to interpret

it's association with 10th lord in 10th > > house.

New">> > > > >From Prasna chart you predicted that she will be promoted but you

> did > > not mention when , could you please tell tentative time period.> > >

> Thank You,> > Yogesh Shah> > > > > > ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > wrote:> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > >

> > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar> > > > > > I have Scorpio Lagna with the Sun in it,

and I have put on a good > > ammount of> > > weight. First learn the Dosha's of

Ayurveda; Vaata, Pitta, Kapha > and> > > Tridoshic. Did you know that Scorpio is

Kapha?> > > > > > As for her regaining of position, I still cannot say anything

> just > >

with the> > > Rdgi, but I have given my oppinion based on the Prasna chart.> > >

> > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > > > > > >

> > > Visti Larsen> > > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >

> > > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

_____ > > > > > > jitjag1 [jitjag1] > > > 29 November

2004 17:39> > >

New">> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth for > >

this chart> > > -- to Visti ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti Ji, > >

> Her Mars is debilitated in the Navamsa. But aspected by > > > Juites

with 5th Drishti and still she is passing thru Moon dasa . > I > > > am

convinced by your explanation that her ascendant is Scorpio, > If > > we > > >

take scorpio ascendant then 10th house has Sun (lord of 10th) , > > Moon > > >

(lord of 9th) , Mercury ( lord of 8th and 11th) and Venus (lord > of > > > 7th

and 12th ) . 8th house denotes the degradation and since 8th > > lord > > > is

in 10th house with 10th lord gives demotion due to subordinate > (

> > > As per Dr. B.V. Raman , how to judge horoscope part II) and > exactly > >

> same thing happened with her Still need to work on the Dasas. > > > If we

take Scorpio asc. then will she regain her position ? If > > > yes , when?> >

> One more question, if Ascendant is in Krur planets rashis (i.e. > > > Rashis

of Mars, Sun and Saturn ) and Krur planet is present in > the > > > Ascendant

then stature of native would be skinny or slim but

she > is > > > not skinny at all.> > > > > > Thank You,> > > Yogesh Shah> > > >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > >

wrote:> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar> > > >

> > > > Check the Navdmga dispositor of Mars if its well placed, then > > she >

> > may> > > > enjoy.> > > > > > > > As for Rdhu in 6th house I find that such

people have terrible > > > enemies!> > > > Look at Sri Rama's chart: Rdhu in

6th house you think He and > > > Ravana were> > > > friends?

New">> > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > >

<http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > >

> > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > > > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> _____ > > > > > > > > Jitjag [jitjag1] > > > > 28

November 2004 20:27> > > > > > > > RE:

[Om Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of birth

for > > > this chart> > > > -- to Visti ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank

You Visti Ji.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have one doubt about Scorpio as

Ascendant . If scorpio is > > > ascendant then> > > > Retro Sat. is in 5th

house and she has 3

sons . Also 9th,10th > and > > > 11th lord> > > > in 10th house which is

Dharma-Karmadhi pati yoga most powerful > > yoga > > > and Mars> > > > in 1st

house scorpio which is one more maha purusha yoga But > she > > is > > > not> >

> > enjoying any Raj yoga .. Also as per Dr. B.V. Raman if Rahu is > in > > >

6th,> > > > native will not have enemies which is not true in her case.> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I think i am tryin to come to conclusion with only

Rasi Chart > and > > > that is> > > > why i am asking so many question.> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank You,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Shah> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:> > > >

> > > > ||Hare Rama

Krsna||> > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar> > > > > > > > Im pretty convinced

that its Scorpio. Mars in Lagna can act > like > > a > > > General> > > > and be

very dominating.> > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > >

<http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > >

> > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> > <http://srigaruda.com/> >

> > > > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > >

New">> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > >

> > > > jitjag1 [jitjag1] > > > > 28 November 2004

16:47> > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] how to rectify time of birth for

> > > this chart> > > > -- to Visti ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Visti Ji, Namsakar..> > > > > > > > Based on my limited knowledge i tried to

find out the ascendant > > of > > > > my ex-manager.> > > > Could you please

give your opinion about my

understanding and > > > > interpretetion...> > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You,> >

> > > > > > Yogesh Shah> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

, "jitjag1" <jitjag1> > > wrote:> > > > > > >

> > > Hi Visti Ji,> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Her parents gave two different timing i.e. 5.00 AM and 2.00

> > PM... > > > > > Birth Date : 03- Sep-1967 , Place : Madison , WI, USA> > >

> > > > > > 1>5.00 AM gives > > > > >

Rasi > > > > >

+--------------+> > > > > | \

/ \ HL / |> > > > > | \ / \ Ju

/ |> > > > > |

\ / \ / |> > > > > | \ 6 / Su

\ / |> > > > > | \ / \ 4 /

|> > > > > |Ke 7 x Me As VeR

x 3 Md |> > > > > | / \ / \ |> > > >

> | / \ Mo / \ |> > > > > | /

\ / \ |

New">> > > > > | / \ 5 / Gk \ |> > > > > | /

\ / \ |> > > > > | Ma 8 x 2

GL |> > > > > |

\ / \ / |> > > > > | \ /

11 \ AL / |> > > > > | \ / \ /

|> > > > >

| \ / \ / |> > > > > | \ /

\ / |> > > > > | 9 x x 1

Ra |> > > > > | /

\ / \ |> > > > > | / 10 \ /

12 \ |> > > > > | / \ / \ |> > >

> > | / \

/ SaR \ |> > > > > | / \ / \

|> > > > > +--------------+> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > she has 3 son and jupiter is in 12th house and 5th house is > > > >

aspected > > > > > by saturn so Leo cann't be her ascendant. After that i

> changed > > > > time > > > > > to 4.50 AM and ascendant changed to Cancer

with Jupiter in > it..> > > > > > > > > > 2> 4.50 AM> > > > > > > > > >

Rasi > > > > >

+--------------+> > > > > | \ Mo Me

/ \ Md / |> > > > > | \ Su / \ HL

/ |> > > > > | \ VeR / \ / |> > > > > |

\ / Ju \ 3 / |> > > > > | \ 5/

\ / |> > > > > |AL 6 x As x 2 Gk |>

> > > > | / \

/ \ |> > > > > | / \ / \ |> > >

> > | / \ / \ |> > > > > | /

\ 4 / GL \ |> > > > > | / \ /

\ |> > > > > | Ke 7 x 1 Ra |> > > > > |

\ / \ / |> > > > > |

\ / 10 \ / |> > > > > | \ /

\ / |> > > > > | \ / \ /

|> > > > > | \

/ \ / |> > > > > |Ma 8 x

x 12 SaR |> > > > > | / \ / \ |> > > >

> | / 9 \ / 11

\ |> > > > > | / \ / \ |> > > > > |

/ \ / \ |> > > > > | / \

/ \ |> > > > >

+--------------+> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > Which matches her few past events ... Jupiter , putra karka > > > >

exalted > > > > > and aspecting 5th(1st son),7th house(2nd son) and 9th house >

> (3rd > > > > > son). also 5th house lord is placed in 5th house ... > > > > >

> > > > > Also Rahu is in 10th house shows

she has problem with her > > > > colleagues > > > > > and i have been witness of

it. Also currently Gochar rahu is > on > > > > > Natal Rahu .. so It shows issue

related to career...> > > > > > > > > > Timing : 2.00 PM...> > > > >

Rasi

New">> > > > > +--------------+> > > > > | \

Gk / \ / |> > > > > | \ Md /

\ Ke / |> > > > > | \ / \ /

|> > > > > | \ / Ma \ 7 / |> > > > > |

\ 9 / \ / |> > > > > | 10 x As

x 6 AL |> > > > >

| / \ / \ |> > > > > | / \

/ \ |> > > > > | / \ / \

|> > > > > |

/ \ 8 / Mo \ |> > > > > | / \

/ \ |> > > > > | 11 x 5VeR Su

|> > > > > | \ / 2

\ / |> > > > > | \ / \ Me /

|> > > > > | \ / \ / |> > > > > | \

/ \

/ |> > > > > | \ / \ / |> > > > >

|SaR GL 12 x x 4 Ju |> > > > > | / \

/ \ |> > > > >

| / 1 \ / 3 \ |> > > > > | / \

/ \ |> > > > > | / Ra \ /

\ |> > > > > | / HL

\ / \ |> > > > >

+--------------+> > > > > > > > > > This

chart also show the tension at work front but saturn's > > > > presence > > > >

> in makes bit difficult to explain 3 sons... Also Normally i > > have > > > > >

noticed that if Mars is in ascendant , normally person has > some > > > > >

marks due to injury on

forhead which is not present in her > > > case . > > > > > Also combination of

9th , 10th , 11th (also 8th) and 7th ( > also > > > > > 12th) lords in 10th is

great raja yoga but she is not > enjoying > > > any > > > > > Raja yoga ..

Also as per Dr. B.V. Raman If Rahu in 6th , > > native > > > > > will not have

many enemies, which is not true in her case...> > > > > > >

> > > Visti Ji, Do you think that the reasons given by me are on > > right > > >

> > direction or did i miss manythings.. first of all since she > is > > > >

very > > > > > nice to me so i am bit biased while looking at her chart... > >

> > > > > > > > Thank You,> > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Shah> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" > >

<visti@s...> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > > > > >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar> > > > > > > > > > > > Try Scorpio or Capricorn lagna

- It seems, at her work > > place, > > > > > somebody is> > >

> > > jealous and has given her some bad-reputation, which is the > > > > reason

> > > > > for her> > > > > > demotion.> > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > >

> > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > > > > > > > > visti@s...> > > > > > > >

> > >

> _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > Jitjag [jitjag1] > > > > >

> 25 November 2004 21:14> > > > > > > > >

> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of birth > > for > > >

> > this chart> > > > > > -- to Visti ji> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Visti Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > Thank You for quick reply.. She was my ex-manger .. she > > helped > > > >

me > > > > > a lot> > > > > > during last 1 and half year ... > > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > you said that ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >>however there is some sort of jealousy going on, which is > > > > >

obstructing it.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please

explain what it means?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Shah> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar> > > > > > > > > > > > With such

little information about the birthtime, you > should > > > > have

> > > > > applied> > > > > > Nashta Jdtaka Prasna principles on her chart to

find the > > right > > > > > birthtime.> > > > > > Drawing a prasna and asking

someone else to answer it > defies > > > the > > > > > point of> > > > > >

drawing it in the first place. From the Prasna I drew, I > saw > > a > > > > >

possibility> > > > > > of a promotion, however there is some sort of jealousy >

going > > > on, > > > > > which is> > > > > > obstructing it. > > > > > > > > >

> > > Please tell how this person is related to you so I can > > continue.> > >

> > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > >

> > > Visti Larsen> > > > > > > > > > > > visti@s...> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jitjag1

[jitjag1] > > > > > > 25 November 2004 19:19> > > > > > To:

> > > > > > [Om

Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of birth for > > > this > > > > > chart -- to>

> > > > > Visti ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got Date of birth from a person

who just

got demoted > > from > > > > > > Manager's position to Project manager ..

(initially 5 ppl > > > > > reporting > > > > > > and now none is reporting to

her) and she has has to report > > to > > > > her > > > > > > colleague. Also

one of her junior who was reporting to her > > got > > > > > > double promotion

and he will lead her

past team. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Date : 03- Sep-1967 , Place

: Madison , WI, USA> > > > > > > > > > > > Parent gave her two diff. time of

birth : 2,00 AM and 5.0 > PM.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > past event

....> > >

> > > > > > > > > 1> three sons...> > > > > > 2> one year back husband went thru

cataract operation.> > > > > > 3> has one sister.> > > > > > 4> Husband was not

working for long time .. very recently > 15-> > 20 > > > > > days > > > > > >

back started working again.> > > > > > 5> around 15 months back 2nd son had

fracture...> > > > > > 6> Very diwn to earth lady,

won't hesitate to say truth...> > > > > > 7> Very passionate about her work.> >

> > > > 8>She got news of demotion om 16th Sep'2004 between 3.30 to > > 4.00> >

> > > > 10> she still tells that the person who got promoted is > very > > > >

nice > > > > > > person .. shows how kind hearted she is !!!> > > > > > 11>Very

dominating in nature...> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Visti ji , could you please help me to rectify her time of

> > > > > birth ...> > > > > > > > > > > > Today, I asked myself question will

she regain her position > > > > > > > > > > > > Date : Nov-25-2004> > > > > >

Time : 10:52:41 > > > > > > Place : Madison , WI.> > > > > > > > > > > > And i

got vergottama lagna and lagna lord ... lagna lord > > > > aspecting > > > > >

> lagna .. so i think, she will regain her position as soon > as > > > > Sani >

> > > > > will be margi but i can not come to conclusion that in same > > > > >

company > > > > > > or other company ?> > > > >

> > > > > > > Is my conclusion based on Langa and Lagnes is corrct?> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thank You,> > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Shah> > > > > >

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Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

The gem of the 5th lord in D10 can

give great rise and good jobs, hence the emerald.

Best wishes,

font-weight:bold">

color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen

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color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Jitjag

[jitjag1 ]

22 December 2004 04:23

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

how to rectify time of birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

12.0pt">

font-family:Arial">Namasakar Visti ji,

12.0pt">

font-family:Arial">Thanks for your reply. You said that Planets causing neecha

bhanga are in Kendra from Ascendant then Gems can be worn it . now in her case

, planet causing neech bhanga is Venus so should she wear Diamond? But

you recommended her to wear emerald.

Sorry

for asking so many question.. Also could you please tell more about her career

... how would be her career?

Thank

You,

Yogesh

Shah

12.0pt">

Visti Larsen

<visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

You see, the extent of neecha bhanga that

a planet gets can also be measured. This is a rule of 4 processes, based on the

4 instances that can cause neecha bhanga namely; 1) lord of exaltation sign 2)

lord of debilitation sign 3) planet which gets exalted in the debilitation sign

4) exaltation in navamsa.

If all 4 cases are there, it is called

Neecha Bhanga Rdjya Yoga. Same applies to all 3.

If only 2 are there then some benefits are

there, but if only 1 is there, then its a small and almost unnoticed rise.

Based on this I made the assesment.

Now if the planets causing neecha bhanga

are placed in kendra to Lagna, then the neecha bhanga will come automatically,

and gems can be worn to cause it.

If instead the planets causing neecha

bhanga are placed in a kendra to Moon, then mantras are required.

Best wishes,

font-weight:bold">

color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen

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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">jitjag1

[jitjag1 ]

21 December 2004 17:05

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: how

to rectify time of birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

12.0pt">

Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar.

I am going on Vacation to Bombay,

India

at end of this week. I will

try to get copy of `Crux of Vedic'.

In previous mail you said that the It's possible

to give neechbhanga

to Saturn in D-10 but it is difficult. Is it

possible to produce

neechbhanga even though it is not there in

Horoscope? I was not aware

that.

Also, In her D-10

chart Mars and Saturn both are neecha but both are

getting neechbhanga because for Mars, Moon is in

Kendra from Lagna

and For Saturn, Venus is in Kendra from Lagna as

well as Moon. Again

did I miss something for interpreting neechbhanga?

(For neechbhanga I

am taking sloka 26 of Phaldeepika).

Thank You,

Yogesh Shah

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

>

> You can find most of the answers to this in

Crux of Vedic

Astrology - 10th

> house Chapter.

>

> I shall be presenting some techniques for

timing in this regard,

for this

> upcoming conference.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> 20 December 2004 20:36

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify

time of birth for

this chart

> -- to Visti ji

>

> Dear Visti ji, Namsakar.

>

> Thanks again for reply. You said that

planet in 7th house in D-10

> gives excuse to end your job, could you

please explain how to find

> the timing of such events?

>

> Also there were two demotions at same time.

In her scenario, she is

> demoted to

one level down while another person got demoted to 3

level

> down. Beside that while announcing demotions

her immediate boss

said

> many good things about her and also made her

Project manage of very

> prestigious project (they did not gave her

pink slip (even layoffs

> are on card)). Is it due to

Jupiter, Mars well placed in D-1

Artha

> trikona or this things also should be judged

from D-10 (9th lord

> Venus in 10th house in D-10)?

>

> When I was

going thru some articles on how to read divisional

charts,

> which I have downloaded from the SJC site.

According to it 5th

house

> in D-10 indicates change job and most of the

time it happens in PD

of

> lord of the 5th. She is currently

passing thru Mercury(which is

5th

> lord in D-10) PD and after that Ketu(which is

in 11th house

aspecting

> 5th house) PD , does that mean both the PD

are fav. For change in

job.

>

> Her D-10 does not have too much strength ( as

per my little

> knowledge) , I could be wrong. She is very

ambitious, How would

her

> career be?

>

> Thank you,

>

> Yogesh Shah

>

> ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > Planets in the 7th house in d10 give you

excuses to end your job,

> This is

> > the case in her chart.

> >

> > The 5th lord Mercury have become weak

due to Saturns debility. So

> if we

> > wanto enhance her potential we must

enhance Mercury and ensure

> Saturn does

> > not get enhanced in the process. Another

way is by giving Saturn

> neecha

> > bhanga in the D10, but this is much

harder.

> >

> > The 10th house in the d1 chart shows how

you work. This is

heavily

> based on

> > seasons and how people work during those

seasons. Saturn is

Sisira

> Rtu,

> > namely Winter, and during this time

everybody stays indoors most

of

> the

> > time. This causes long periods without

jobs and then when the job

> is there,

> > the stress-load is huge.

> >

> > Everything we need to know about the job

is seen in the d10.

> >

> > If she gets a promotion then it will be

in the same job. If she

> gets a new

> > job, then a job-loss must be indicated.

Mercury is however

> indicating the

> > latter, as it is 8th lord, so I doubt

she will regain her

position.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> >

> > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Jitjag [jitjag1]

> > 19 December 2004 07:14

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how

to rectify time of birth

for

> this

> > chart -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Dear Visti Ji , Namsakar.

> >

> > Initially when she asked her parent for

TOB , she got 2 different

> time of

> > birth and that is why I was trying to

rectify her TOB.

> >

> > In your mail you mentioned that

"moon lord of 6th in 7th giving

> her some

> > ideas about converting her Job into a

business" but as far as I

> know she is

> > not planning any business as of now she

is just trying to come

out

> of this

> > shock because actually she was expecting

promotion but altogether

> opposite

> > happend.

> >

> > I have read in many books that the

Saturn in 10th gives very

> revolutionary

> > results like sudden ups and downs

and exactly same thing

> happening with

> > her also... I am still learning Jyotish

and still i do rely too

> much on the

> > Rasi chart ( because not knowing how to

interprete Divisional

> charts) . I

> > will send my reading to group tomorrow

so you and other learned

> member can

> > teach/correct me.

> >

> > You also mentioned that debiliated

Saturn and Mer is 3rd house

> in D-10

> > and you recommed her to wear emrald to

strenghtn Mer .. But since

> Mercury is

> > with the Saturn , Mercury

dasa/antar/pratyanpar dasa also will

not

> be

> > favorable , is that correct ?

> >

> > Also, will she regain position in same

company or other company?

> How can we

> > see that .. which house/divisional chart

should be considered for

> that?

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > Im curious why was this a

lost horoscope before?

> >

> > Vimshottari is fine for this chart, open

the dasamsa and see that

> Moon maha

> > dagd is running and is the 6th lord in

7th giving her some ideas

> about

> > converting her job into a business.

> >

> > Saturn antara dasa is running so check

Saturn;

> >

> > See that the 5th lord mercury is joined

a debilitated Saturn

this

> is very

> > bad,

especially as Saturn is lagna lord, showing bad name,

> reputation and a

> > resultant demotion. The good side is that

Lagna lord Rdhu is

> exalted in the

> > 5th house, but this has other downsides,

such as over-dependancy

on

> others

> > to do the work.

> >

> > The demotion happened in 16th Nov,

during Moon-Saturn-Saturn.

Right

> now

> > Moon-Saturn-Mercury is running and if we

give her an emerald to

> wear then we

> > can get her promoted quicker ENSURE that

she is not wearing a

blue

> saffire!

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> >

> > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Jitjag [jitjag1]

> > 17 December 2004 21:07

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how

to rectify time of birth

for

> this

> > chart -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Sorry , it for typo

> >

> > Got news of demotion on on

16th Nov'04 instead of 16th Sep'04.

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > Jitjag <jitjag1> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Visti ji,

> >

> > Finally got My ex-manager's

correct time of birth,

> >

> > Date : 03-sep-1967

> >

> > Place: Wausau, Wisconsin,USA

> >

> > Time : 01.58 AM

> >

> > Got news of demotion on on

16th Sep'2004.

> >

> > Could you please now analyze her chart

and tell, will she be able

> to regain

> > her position , yes then when ? How her

career will be?

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > Comments below.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> >

> > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > 30 November 2004 22:51

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to

rectify time of birth for

> this chart

> > -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar

> >

> > I have a friend who has Mars with

Scorpio ascendant and he is

> skinny

> > so just got carried away with that. I am

aware of that the

Scorpio

> is

> > Kapha.

> >

> > [Visti] Mars can give a very thin waist.

> >

> > I have one more question for you if

planet is owner of two rashis

> > (except Moon and Sun) in that scenario

while interpreting results

> > which house ownership should be given

more important compare to

> other

> > house.

> >

> > [Visti] Rafal knows the answer to this,

ask him.

> >

> > If we take her chart with scorpio

ascendant then Mercury became

> lord

> > of 8th and 11th 8th house and lord

indicates the demotion or

> degrade

> > of person. But 11th house and lord of

11th indicates Labh i.e.

> > benefits How to interpret it's

association with 10th lord in 10th

> > house.

> >

> > >From Prasna chart you predicted that

she will be promoted but

you

> did

> > not mention when , could you please tell

tentative time period.

> >

> > Thank You,

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > >

> > > I have Scorpio Lagna with the Sun

in it, and I have put on a

good

> > ammount of

> > > weight. First learn the Dosha's of

Ayurveda; Vaata, Pitta,

Kapha

> and

> > > Tridoshic. Did you know that

Scorpio is Kapha?

> > >

> > > As for her regaining of position, I

still cannot say anything

> just

> > with the

> > > Rdgi, but I have given my oppinion

based on the Prasna chart.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > >

> > > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > > 29 November 2004 17:39

> > >

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth for

> > this chart

> > > -- to Visti ji

> > >

> > > Dear Visti Ji,

> >

> Her Mars is debilitated in

the Navamsa. But aspected by

> > > Juites with 5th Drishti and still

she is passing thru Moon

dasa .

> I

> > > am convinced by your explanation

that her ascendant is Scorpio,

> If

> > we

> > > take scorpio ascendant then 10th

house has Sun (lord of 10th) ,

> > Moon

> > > (lord of 9th) , Mercury ( lord of

8th and 11th) and Venus (lord

> of

> > > 7th and 12th ) . 8th house denotes

the degradation and since

8th

> > lord

> > > is in 10th house with 10th lord

gives demotion due to

subordinate

> (

> > > As per Dr. B.V. Raman , how to

judge horoscope part II) and

> exactly

> > > same thing happened with her

Still need to work on the Dasas.

> > > If we take Scorpio asc.

then will she regain her position ?

If

> > > yes , when?

> > > One more question, if Ascendant is

in Krur planets rashis (i.e.

> > > Rashis of Mars, Sun and Saturn )

and Krur planet is present in

> the

> > > Ascendant then stature of native

would be skinny or slim but

she

> is

> > > not skinny at all.

> > >

> > > Thank You,

> > > Yogesh Shah

> > >

> > > --- In

, "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Check the Navdmga dispositor

of Mars if its well placed,

then

> > she

> > > may

> > > > enjoy.

> > > >

> > > > As for Rdhu in 6th house I

find that such people have

terrible

> > > enemies!

> > > > Look at Sri Rama's chart: Rdhu

in 6th house you think He and

> > > Ravana were

> > > > friends?

> > >

>

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> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > Jitjag

[jitjag1]

> > > > 28 November 2004 20:27

> > > > To:

> > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

how to rectify time of birth

for

> > > this chart

> > > > -- to Visti ji

> > > >

> > > > Thank You Visti Ji.

> > > >

> > > > I have one doubt about Scorpio

as Ascendant . If scorpio is

> > > ascendant then

> > > > Retro Sat. is in 5th house and

she has 3 sons . Also 9th,10th

> and

> > > 11th lord

> > > > in 10th house which is

Dharma-Karmadhi pati yoga most

powerful

> > yoga

> > > and Mars

> > > > in 1st house scorpio which is

one more maha purusha yoga But

> she

> > is

> > > not

> > > > enjoying any Raj yoga .. Also

as per Dr. B.V. Raman if Rahu

is

> in

> > > 6th,

> > > > native will not have enemies

which is not true in her case.

> > > >

> > > > I think i am tryin to come to

conclusion with only Rasi Chart

> and

> > > that is

> > > > why i am asking so many

question.

> > > >

> > > > Thank You,

> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

<visti@s...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Im pretty convinced that

its Scorpio. Mars in Lagna can act

> like

> > a

> > > General

> > > > and be very dominating.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > >

> > >

>

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > jitjag1

[jitjag1]

> > > > 28 November 2004 16:47

> > > > To:

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

how to rectify time of birth

for

> > > this chart

> > > > -- to Visti ji

> > > >

> > > > Hi Visti Ji, Namsakar..

> > > >

> > > > Based on my limited knowledge

i tried to find out the

ascendant

> > of

> > > > my ex-manager.

> > > > Could you please give your

opinion about my understanding and

> > > > interpretetion...

> > > >

> > > > Thank You,

> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, "jitjag1" <jitjag1>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Visti Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Her parents gave two

different timing i.e. 5.00 AM and 2.00

> > PM...

> > > > > Birth Date : 03- Sep-1967

, Place : Madison , WI,

USA

> > > >

> > > > > 1>5.00 AM gives

> > > >

>

Rasi

> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > > |

\

/ \

HL / |

> > > > > |

\

/ \

Ju / |

> > > > > |

\

/

\ /

|

> > > > >

| \ 6

/ Su

\ / |

> > > > >

| \ /

\ 4 / |

> > > > >

|Ke 7 x

Me As VeR x

3 Md |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > >

| /

\ Mo

/ \ |

> > > > > |

/

\ /

\ |

> > >

> > | /

\ 5 / Gk

\ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > >

|

Ma 8 x

2

GL |

> > > > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > > > |

\

/ 11 \ AL

/ |

> > > > > |

\

/

\ /

|

> > > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > > > |

9

x

x 1 Ra |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > >

| / 10

\

/ 12 \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/ \

|

> > > > > |

/

\ /

SaR \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > she has 3 son and jupiter

is in 12th house and 5th house is

> > > > aspected

> > > > > by saturn so Leo

cann't be her ascendant. After that i

> changed

> > > > time

> > > > > to 4.50 AM and

ascendant changed to Cancer with Jupiter in

> it..

> > > > >

> > > > > 2> 4.50 AM

> > > > >

> > > >

>

Rasi

> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > > |

\ Mo Me

/ \

Md / |

> > > > > |

\ Su

/ \

HL / |

> > > > > |

\ VeR

/

\ /

|

> > > > >

| \

/ Ju

\ 3 / |

> > > > >

| \

5/

\ / |

> > > > >

|AL 6

x

As x

2 Gk |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/ \

|

> > > > > |

/

\ 4 /

GL \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > >

| Ke

7 x 1

Ra |

> > > > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > > > |

\

/ 10

\

/ |

> > > > > |

\

/

\ /

|

> > > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > > >

|Ma 8

x

x 12 SaR |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > >

| / 9

\

/ 11 \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/ \

|

> > > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Which matches her few

past events ... Jupiter , putra karka

> > > > exalted

> > > > > and aspecting 5th(1st

son),7th house(2nd son) and 9th house

> > (3rd

> > > > > son). also 5th house lord

is placed in 5th house ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Also Rahu is in 10th

house shows she has problem with her

> > > > colleagues

> > > > > and i have been witness

of it. Also currently Gochar rahu

is

> on

> > > > > Natal Rahu .. so It shows

issue related to career...

> > > > >

> > > > > Timing : 2.00 PM...

> > > >

>

Rasi

> > >

> > +--------------+

> > > > > |

\

Gk

/

\

/ |

> > > > > |

\ Md

/ \

Ke / |

> > > > > |

\

/

\ /

|

> > > > >

| \

/ Ma

\ 7 / |

> > > > >

| \ 9

/

\ / |

> > > > >

| 10

x

As x

6 AL |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/ \

|

> > > > > |

/

\ 8 /

Mo \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/

\ |

> > > > >

|

11 x 5VeR

Su |

> > > > > |

\

/ 2

\

/ |

> > > > > |

\

/ \

Me / |

> > > > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > > >

| \

/

\ / |

> > > > > |SaR GL 12

x

x 4 Ju |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > >

| / 1

\

/ 3 \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/ \

|

> > > > > |

/ Ra

\

/

\ |

> > > > > |

/

HL

\

/

\ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > This chart also show the

tension at work front but saturn's

> > > > presence

> > > > > in makes bit difficult to

explain 3 sons... Also Normally i

> > have

> > > > > noticed that if Mars is

in ascendant , normally person has

> some

> > > > > marks due to injury on

forhead which is not present in her

> > > case .

> > > > > Also combination of 9th ,

10th , 11th (also 8th) and 7th (

> also

> > > > > 12th) lords in 10th is

great raja yoga but she is not

> enjoying

> > > any

> > > > > Raja yoga .. Also

as per Dr. B.V. Raman If Rahu in 6th ,

> > native

> > > > > will not have many

enemies, which is not true in her case...

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Ji, Do you think

that the reasons given by me are on

> > right

> > > > > direction or did i miss

manythings.. first of all since she

> is

> > > > very

> > > > > nice to me so i am bit

biased while looking at her chart...

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank You,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, "Visti Larsen"

> > <visti@s...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Yogesh,

Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Try Scorpio or

Capricorn lagna - It seems, at her work

> > place,

> > > > > somebody is

> > > > > > jealous and has

given her some bad-reputation, which is

the

> > > > reason

> > > > > for her

> > > > > > demotion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > visti@s...

> > > > > >

_____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jitjag

[jitjag1]

> > > > > > 25 November

2004 21:14

> > > > > > To:

> > > > > > RE: [Om

Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of

birth

> > for

> > > > > this chart

> > > > > > -- to Visti ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Visti Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank You for quick

reply.. She was my ex-manger .. she

> > helped

> > > > me

> > > > > a lot

> > > > > > during last 1 and

half year ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you said that ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >>however

there is some sort of jealousy going on, which

is

> > > > > obstructing it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Could you please

explain what it means?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank You,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

<visti@s...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Yogesh,

Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With such little

information about the birthtime, you

> should

> > > > have

> > > > > applied

> > > > > > Nashta Jdtaka

Prasna principles on her chart to find the

> > right

> > > > > birthtime.

> > > > > > Drawing a prasna and

asking someone else to answer it

> defies

> > > the

> > > > > point of

> > > > > > drawing it in the

first place. From the Prasna I drew, I

> saw

> > a

> > > > > possibility

> > > > > > of a promotion,

however there is some sort of jealousy

> going

> > > on,

> > > > > which is

> > > > > > obstructing it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please tell how this

person is related to you so I can

> > continue.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > visti@s...

> > > > > >

_____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > jitjag1

[jitjag1]

> > > > > > 25 November

2004 19:19

> > > > > > To:

> > > > > > [Om Krishna

Guru] how to rectify time of birth

for

> > > this

> > > > > chart -- to

> > > > > > Visti ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I

got Date of birth from a person who just got

demoted

> > from

> > > > > > Manager's position

to Project manager .. (initially 5 ppl

> > > > > reporting

> > > > > > and now none is

reporting to her) and she has has to

report

> > to

> > > > her

> > > > > > colleague. Also one

of her junior who was reporting to

her

> > got

> > > > > > double promotion and

he will lead her past team.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Birth Date : 03-

Sep-1967 , Place : Madison , WI,

USA

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Parent gave her two

diff. time of birth : 2,00 AM and 5.0

> PM.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > past event ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1> three sons...

> > > > > > 2> one year back

husband went thru cataract operation.

> > > > > > 3> has one

sister.

> > > > > > 4> Husband was

not working for long time .. very recently

> 15-

> > 20

> > > > > days

> > > > > > back started working

again.

> > > > > > 5> around 15

months back 2nd son had fracture...

> > > > > > 6> Very diwn to

earth lady, won't hesitate to say truth...

> > > > > > 7> Very

passionate about her work.

> > > > > > 8>She got news of

demotion om 16th Sep'2004 between 3.30

to

> > 4.00

> > > > > > 10> she still

tells that the person who got promoted is

> very

> > > > nice

> > > > > > person .. shows how

kind hearted she is !!!

> > > > > > 11>Very

dominating in nature...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti ji , could you

please help me to rectify her time

of

> > > > > birth ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Today, I asked

myself question will she regain her

position

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Date : Nov-25-2004

> > > > > > Time : 10:52:41

> > > > > > Place : Madison , WI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And i got vergottama

lagna and lagna lord ... lagna lord

> > > > aspecting

> > > > > > lagna .. so i think,

she will regain her position as soon

> as

> > > > Sani

> > > > > > will be margi but i

can not come to conclusion that in

same

> > > > > company

> > > > > > or other company ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is my conclusion

based on Langa and Lagnes is corrct?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank You,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yogesh Shah

> >

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Hare Rama Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare||

Dear Sir,

Is it always true? In my case Moon in the Lord of 5th house (Cancer) in

D10 and it is the planet in 5th house (Libra) in Rasi too. But please note that

I have neechabhanga RY due to Ve and Ju in 8th house for Rasi chart. I am told

by you to propitiate this RY by worshipping Ma who is in 11th and also lord of

11th house. So in nutshell, can I wear pearl to propitiate Moon and/or wear

Coral to propitiate Mars?

Also please note that Ma is Ishta Devata for me as it is 12th lord from

Rahu's placement in Navamsa...

Thanks,

Rakesh.

-"Visti Larsen" To:

Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify

time of birth for this chart -- to Visti jiWed, 22 Dec 2004 13:56:16

+0100

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

The gem of the 5th lord in D10 can give great rise and good jobs, hence the emerald.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

Jitjag [jitjag1 ] 22 December 2004 04:23To:

Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify

time of birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

Namasakar Visti ji,

Thanks for your reply. You said that Planets causing neecha bhanga are in Kendra

from Ascendant then Gems can be worn it . now in her case , planet causing neech

bhanga is Venus so should she wear Diamond? But you recommended her to wear

emerald.

Sorry for asking so many question.. Also could you please tell more about her

career .. how would be her career?

Thank You,

Yogesh Shah

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

You see, the extent of neecha bhanga that a planet gets can also be measured.

This is a rule of 4 processes, based on the 4 instances that can cause neecha

bhanga namely; 1) lord of exaltation sign 2) lord of debilitation sign 3)

planet which gets exalted in the debilitation sign 4) exaltation in navamsa.

If all 4 cases are there, it is called Neecha Bhanga Rdjya Yoga. Same applies to all 3.

If only 2 are there then some benefits are there, but if only 1 is there, then

its a small and almost unnoticed rise.

Based on this I made the assesment.

Now if the planets causing neecha bhanga are placed in kendra to Lagna, then the

neecha bhanga will come automatically, and gems can be worn to cause it.

If instead the planets causing neecha bhanga are placed in a kendra to Moon,

then mantras are required.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

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jitjag1 [jitjag1 ] 21 December 2004 17:05To:

Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time

of birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar.I am going on Vacation to Bombay, India at end of this

week. I will try to get copy of `Crux of Vedic'. In previous mail you said that

the It's possible to give neechbhanga to Saturn in D-10 but it is difficult. Is

it possible to produce neechbhanga even though it is not there in Horoscope? I

was not aware that.

New'">Also, In her D-10 chart Mars and Saturn both are neecha but both are

getting neechbhanga because for Mars, Moon is in Kendra from Lagna and For

Saturn, Venus is in Kendra from Lagna as well as Moon. Again did I miss

something for interpreting neechbhanga? (For neechbhanga I am taking sloka 26

of Phaldeepika).Thank You,Yogesh Shah,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Yogesh,

Namaskar> > You can find most of the answers to this in Crux of Vedic Astrology

- 10th> house Chapter.> > I shall be presenting some techniques for timing in

this regard, for this> upcoming conference.> > Best wishes,> > > > > Visti

Larsen

New'">> > http://srigaruda.com> > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > >

_____ > > jitjag1 [jitjag1] > 20 December 2004 20:36>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify

time of birth for this chart> -- to Visti ji> > > > > Dear Visti ji, Namsakar.>

> Thanks again for reply. You said that planet in 7th house in D-10 > gives

excuse to end your job, could you please explain how to find > the timing of

such events? > > Also there were two demotions at same time. In her scenario,

she is

New'">> demoted to one level down while another person got demoted to 3 level >

down. Beside that while announcing demotions her immediate boss said > many

good things about her and also made her Project manage of very > prestigious

project (they did not gave her pink slip (even layoffs > are on card)). Is it

due to Jupiter, Mars well placed in D-1 Artha > trikona or this things also

should be judged from D-10 (9th lord > Venus in 10th house in D-10)? >

New'">> When I was going thru some articles on how to read divisional charts, >

which I have downloaded from the SJC site. According to it 5th house > in D-10

indicates change job and most of the time it happens in PD of > lord of the

5th. She is currently passing thru Mercury(which is 5th > lord in D-10) PD

and after that Ketu(which is in 11th house aspecting > 5th house) PD , does

that mean both the PD are fav. For change in job.> > Her D-10 does not have too

much strength ( as per my little > knowledge) , I could be wrong. She is very

ambitious, How would her > career be?> > Thank you,> > Yogesh Shah> > > > ---

In , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote:> > ||Hare

Rama Krsna||> > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar> > > > Planets in the 7th house in d10

give you excuses to end your job, > This is> > the case in her chart.> > > > The

5th lord Mercury have become weak due to Saturns debility. So > if we> > wanto

enhance her potential we must enhance Mercury and ensure > Saturn does> > not

get enhanced in the process. Another way is by giving Saturn > neecha> > bhanga

in the D10, but this is much harder.> > > > The 10th house in the d1 chart shows

how you work. This is heavily > based on> > seasons and how people work during

those seasons. Saturn is Sisira > Rtu,> > namely Winter, and during this time

everybody stays indoors most of > the> > time. This causes long periods without

jobs and then when the job > is there,> > the stress-load is huge.> > > >

Everything we need to know about the job is seen in the d10.> > > > If she gets

a promotion then it will be in the same job. If she > gets a new> > job, then a

job-loss must be indicated. Mercury is however > indicating the> > latter, as

it is 8th lord, so I doubt she will regain her position.> > > > Best wishes,> >

> > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > http://srigaruda.com> > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > >

Jitjag [jitjag1] > > 19 December 2004 07:14> > To:

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to

rectify time of birth for > this> > chart -- to Visti ji> > > > > > > > Dear

Visti Ji , Namsakar. > > > > > > > > Initially when she asked her parent for

TOB , she got 2 different > time of> > birth and that is why I was trying to

rectify her TOB. > > > > > > > > In your mail you mentioned that "moon lord

of 6th in 7th giving > her some> > ideas about converting her Job into a

business" but as far as I > know she is> > not planning any business as of now

she is just trying to come out > of this> > shock because actually she was

expecting promotion but altogether > opposite> > happend.> > > > > > > > I

have read in many books that the Saturn in 10th gives very > revolutionary> >

results like sudden ups and downs and exactly same thing > happening with> >

her also... I am still learning Jyotish and still i do rely too > much on the>

> Rasi chart ( because not knowing how to interprete Divisional > charts) . I>

> will send my reading to group tomorrow so you and other learned > member can>

> teach/correct me.> > > > > > > > You also mentioned that debiliated Saturn

and Mer is 3rd house > in D-10> > and you recommed her to wear emrald to

strenghtn Mer .. But since > Mercury is> > with the Saturn , Mercury

dasa/antar/pratyanpar dasa also will not > be> > favorable , is that correct ?>

> > > > > > > Also, will she regain position in same company or other company?

> How can we> > see that .. which house/divisional chart should be considered

for > that? > > > > > > > > Thank You,> > > > > > > > Yogesh Shah> > > > >

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > Dear

Yogesh, Namaskar> > > > Im curious why was this a lost horoscope before?> > >

> Vimshottari is fine for this chart, open the dasamsa and see that > Moon maha>

> dagd is running and is the 6th lord in 7th giving her some ideas > about> >

converting her job into a business.> > > > Saturn antara dasa is running so

check Saturn;> > > > See that the 5th lord mercury is joined a debilitated

Saturn this > is very

New'">> > bad, especially as Saturn is lagna lord, showing bad name, >

reputation and a> > resultant demotion. The good side is that Lagna lord Rdhu

is > exalted in the> > 5th house, but this has other downsides, such as

over-dependancy on > others> > to do the work.> > > > The demotion happened in

16th Nov, during Moon-Saturn-Saturn. Right > now> > Moon-Saturn-Mercury is

running and if we give her an emerald to > wear then we> > can get her promoted

quicker ENSURE that she is not wearing a blue > saffire!> > > > Best wishes,> >

> > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > http://srigaruda.com

<http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Jitjag [jitjag1] > >

17 December 2004 21:07> > > > Subject:

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth for > this> > chart --

to Visti ji> > > > > > > > Sorry , it for typo > > > > Got news of demotion on

on 16th Nov'04 instead of 16th Sep'04.> > > > > > > > Thank You,> > > > > >

> > Yogesh Shah> > > > > > Jitjag <jitjag1> wrote:> > > > Dear Visti ji,>

> > > > > > > Finally got My ex-manager's correct time of birth,> > > > > >

> > Date : 03-sep-1967> > > > Place: Wausau, Wisconsin,USA> > > > Time : 01.58

AM> > > > > > > > Got news of demotion on on 16th Sep'2004.> > > > > > > >

Could you please now analyze her chart and tell, will she be able

New'">> to regain> > her position , yes then when ? How her career will be?> > >

> > > > > Thank You,> > > > > > > > Yogesh Shah> > > > > > > > Visti Larsen

<visti@s...> wrote:> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar> >

> > Comments below.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/> > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> >

> > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ >

> > > > > jitjag1 [jitjag1] > > 30 November 2004 22:51>

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to

rectify time of birth for > this chart> > -- to Visti ji> > > > > > > > > >

Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar> > > > I have a friend who has Mars with Scorpio

ascendant and he is > skinny > > so just got carried away with that. I am aware

of that the Scorpio > is > > Kapha. > > > > [Visti] Mars can give a very thin

waist.> > > > > > > > I have one more question for you if planet is owner of

two rashis > > (except Moon and Sun) in that scenario while interpreting

results > > which house ownership should be given more important compare to >

other > > house. > > > > [Visti] Rafal knows the answer to this, ask him.> > >

> > > > > If we take her chart with scorpio ascendant then Mercury became >

lord > > of 8th and 11th 8th house and lord indicates the demotion or > degrade

> > of person. But 11th house and lord of 11th indicates Labh i.e. > > benefits

How to interpret it's association with 10th lord in 10th > > house.

New'">> > > > >From Prasna chart you predicted that she will be promoted but you

> did > > not mention when , could you please tell tentative time period.> > > >

Thank You,> > Yogesh Shah> > > > > > , "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...> > > wrote:> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > Dear Yogesh,

Namaskar> > > > > > I have Scorpio Lagna with the Sun in it, and I have put on a

good > > ammount of> > > weight. First learn the Dosha's of Ayurveda; Vaata,

Pitta, Kapha > and> > > Tridoshic. Did you know that Scorpio is Kapha?> > > > >

> As for her regaining of position, I still cannot say anything > just > > with

the> > > Rdgi, but I have given my oppinion based on the Prasna chart.> > > > >

> Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > > > > > > > >

> Visti Larsen> > > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > >

> > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

_____ > > > > > > jitjag1 [jitjag1] > > > 29 November

2004 17:39> > >

New'">> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth for > >

this chart> > > -- to Visti ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti Ji, > >

> Her Mars is debilitated in the Navamsa. But aspected by > > > Juites

with 5th Drishti and still she is passing thru Moon dasa . > I > > > am

convinced by your explanation that her ascendant is Scorpio, > If > > we > > >

take scorpio ascendant then 10th house has Sun (lord of 10th) , > > Moon > > >

(lord of 9th) , Mercury ( lord of 8th and 11th) and Venus (lord > of > > > 7th

and 12th ) . 8th house denotes the degradation and since 8th > > lord > > > is

in 10th house with 10th lord gives demotion due to subordinate > ( > > > As per

Dr. B.V. Raman , how to judge horoscope part II) and > exactly > > > same thing

happened with her Still need to work on the Dasas. > > > If we take Scorpio

asc. then will she regain her position ? If > > > yes , when?> > > One more

question, if Ascendant is in Krur planets rashis (i.e. > > > Rashis of Mars,

Sun and Saturn ) and Krur planet is present in > the > > > Ascendant then

stature of native would be skinny or slim but she > is > > > not skinny at

all.> > > > > > Thank You,> > > Yogesh Shah> > > > > > --- In

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > > wrote:> > > >

||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar> > > > > > > > Check

the Navdmga dispositor of Mars if its well placed, then > > she > > > may> > >

> enjoy.> > > > > > > > As for Rdhu in 6th house I find that such people have

terrible > > > enemies!> > > > Look at Sri Rama's chart: Rdhu in 6th house you

think He and > > > Ravana were> > > > friends?

New'">> > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > >

<http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > >

> > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > > > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> _____ > > > > > > > > Jitjag [jitjag1] > > > > 28

November 2004 20:27> > > > > > > > RE:

[Om Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of birth for > > > this chart> > > > -- to

Visti ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You Visti Ji.> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > I have one doubt about Scorpio as Ascendant . If scorpio is > > >

ascendant then> > > > Retro Sat. is in 5th house and she has 3 sons . Also

9th,10th > and > > > 11th lord> > > > in 10th house which is Dharma-Karmadhi

pati yoga most powerful > > yoga > > > and Mars> > > > in 1st house scorpio

which is one more maha purusha yoga But > she > > is > > > not> > > > enjoying

any Raj yoga .. Also as per Dr. B.V. Raman if Rahu is > in > > > 6th,> > > >

native will not have enemies which is not true in her case.> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > I think i am tryin to come to conclusion with only Rasi Chart > and

> > > that is> > > > why i am asking so many question.> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh

Shah> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...>

wrote:> > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar>

> > > > > > > Im pretty convinced that its Scorpio. Mars in Lagna can act >

like > > a > > > General> > > > and be very dominating.> > > > > > > > Best

wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > > > > http://srigaruda.com

<http://srigaruda.com/> > <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > > > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s... > > > >

New'">> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > >

> > > > jitjag1 [jitjag1] > > > > 28 November 2004

16:47> > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] how to rectify time of birth for > > > this chart> > > > -- to Visti ji>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Visti Ji, Namsakar..> > > > > > > >

Based on my limited knowledge i tried to find out the ascendant > > of > > > >

my ex-manager.> > > > Could you please give your opinion about my understanding

and > > > > interpretetion...> > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You,> > > > > > > >

Yogesh Shah> > > > > > > > > > > > ,

"jitjag1" <jitjag1> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Hi Visti Ji,> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Her parents gave two different timing i.e. 5.00 AM and 2.00 >

> PM... > > > > > Birth Date : 03- Sep-1967 , Place : Madison , WI, USA> > > > >

> > > > 1>5.00 AM gives > > > > > Rasi

> > > > > +--------------+> > > > > | \

/ \ HL / |> > > > > | \ / \

Ju / |> > > > > | \ / \ / |> >

> > > | \ 6 / Su \ / |> > > > > | \

/ \ 4 / |> > > > > |Ke 7 x Me As VeR

x 3 Md |> > > > > | / \ / \ |> > > >

> | / \ Mo / \ |> > > > > | / \

/ \ |

New'">> > > > > | / \ 5 / Gk \ |> > > > > | /

\ / \ |> > > > > | Ma 8 x

2 GL |> > > > > | \ / \ /

|> > > > > | \ / 11 \ AL / |> > > > > | \

/ \ / |> > > > > | \ /

\ / |> > > > > | \ / \ / |> >

> > > | 9 x x 1 Ra |> > > > > | / \

/ \ |> > > > > | / 10 \ / 12

\ |> > > > > | / \ / \ |> > > > >

| / \ / SaR \ |> > > > > | /

\ / \ |> > > > >

+--------------+> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

she has 3 son and jupiter is in 12th house and 5th house is > > > > aspected > >

> > > by saturn so Leo cann't be her ascendant. After that i > changed > > > >

time > > > > > to 4.50 AM and ascendant changed to Cancer with Jupiter in >

it..> > > > > > > > > > 2> 4.50 AM> > > > > > > > > >

Rasi > > > > >

+--------------+> > > > > | \ Mo Me

/ \ Md / |> > > > > | \ Su / \ HL

/ |> > > > > | \ VeR / \ / |> > > > > |

\ / Ju \ 3 / |> > > > > | \ 5/

\ / |> > > > > |AL 6 x As x 2 Gk

|> > > > > | / \ / \ |> > > > > | /

\ / \ |> > > > > | / \ /

\ |> > > > > | / \ 4 / GL \ |> >

> > > | / \ / \ |> > > > > | Ke

7 x 1 Ra |> > > > > | \ / \

/ |> > > > > | \ / 10 \ / |> > > > >

| \ / \ / |> > > > > | \ /

\ / |> > > > > | \ / \ /

|> > > > > |Ma 8 x x 12 SaR |> > > > > |

/ \ / \ |> > > > > | / 9 \

/ 11 \ |> > > > > | / \ / \ |>

> > > > | / \ / \ |> > > > > | /

\ / \ |> > > > >

+--------------+> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > Which matches her few past events ... Jupiter , putra karka > > > >

exalted > > > > > and aspecting 5th(1st son),7th house(2nd son) and 9th house >

> (3rd > > > > > son). also 5th house lord is placed in 5th house ... > > > > >

> > > > > Also Rahu is in 10th house shows she has problem with her > > > >

colleagues > > > > > and i have been witness of it. Also currently Gochar rahu

is > on > > > > > Natal Rahu .. so It shows issue related to career...> > > > >

> > > > > Timing : 2.00 PM...> > > > > Rasi

New'">> > > > > +--------------+> > > > > | \

Gk / \ / |> > > > > | \ Md /

\ Ke / |> > > > > | \ / \ /

|> > > > > | \ / Ma \ 7 / |> > > > > |

\ 9 / \ / |> > > > > | 10 x As

x 6 AL |> > > > > | / \ / \ |> >

> > > | / \ / \ |> > > > > | /

\ / \ |> > > > > | / \ 8 / Mo

\ |> > > > > | / \ / \ |> > > > >

| 11 x 5VeR Su |> > > > > | \

/ 2 \ / |> > > > > | \ / \ Me

/ |> > > > > | \ / \ / |> > > > > |

\ / \ / |> > > > > | \ /

\ / |> > > > > |SaR GL 12 x x 4 Ju

|> > > > > | / \ / \ |> > > > > | /

1 \ / 3 \ |> > > > > | / \ /

\ |> > > > > | / Ra \ / \ |> >

> > > | / HL \ / \ |> > > > >

+--------------+> > > > > > > > > > This

chart also show the tension at work front but saturn's > > > > presence > > > >

> in makes bit difficult to explain 3 sons... Also Normally i > > have > > > > >

noticed that if Mars is in ascendant , normally person has > some > > > > >

marks due to injury on forhead which is not present in her > > > case . > > >

> > Also combination of 9th , 10th , 11th (also 8th) and 7th ( > also > > > > >

12th) lords in 10th is great raja yoga but she is not > enjoying > > > any > > >

> > Raja yoga .. Also as per Dr. B.V. Raman If Rahu in 6th , > > native > > >

> > will not have many enemies, which is not true in her case...> > > > > > > >

> > Visti Ji, Do you think that the reasons given by me are on > > right > > > >

> direction or did i miss manythings.. first of all since she > is > > > > very

> > > > > nice to me so i am bit biased while looking at her chart... > > > > >

> > > > > Thank You,> > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Shah> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > , "Visti Larsen" > > <visti@s...> >

> > > > wrote:> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear

Yogesh, Namaskar> > > > > > > > > > > > Try Scorpio or Capricorn lagna - It

seems, at her work > > place, > > > > > somebody is> > > > > > jealous and has

given her some bad-reputation, which is the > > > > reason > > > > > for her> >

> > > > demotion.> > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > >

Visti Larsen> > > > > > > > > > > > visti@s...> > > > > > > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jitjag [jitjag1] > > > > > > 25

November 2004 21:14> > > > > > > > > > > >

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of birth > > for > > > > >

this chart> > > > > > -- to Visti ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > Hi Visti Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You

for quick reply.. She was my ex-manger .. she > > helped > > > > me > > > > > a

lot> > > > > > during last 1 and half year ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > you said that ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> >>however there is some sort of jealousy going on, which is > > > > >

obstructing it.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you

please explain what it means?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You,> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Shah> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama

Krsna||> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar> > > > > > > > > > > >

With such little information about the birthtime, you > should > > > > have > >

> > > applied> > > > > > Nashta Jdtaka Prasna principles on her chart to find

the > > right > > > > > birthtime.> > > > > > Drawing a prasna and asking

someone else to answer it > defies > > > the > > > > > point of> > > > > >

drawing it in the first place. From the Prasna I drew, I > saw > > a > > > > >

possibility> > > > > > of a promotion, however there is some sort of jealousy >

going > > > on, > > > > > which is> > > > > > obstructing it. > > > > > > > > >

> > > Please tell how this person is related to you so I can > > continue.> > >

> > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > > >

> > > > > visti@s...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > jitjag1 [jitjag1] > > > > > > 25

November 2004 19:19> > > > > > > > > > > >

[Om Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of birth for > > > this > > > >

> chart -- to> > > > > > Visti ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got Date of birth

from a person who just got demoted > > from > > > > > > Manager's position to

Project manager .. (initially 5 ppl > > > > > reporting > > > > > > and now

none is reporting to her) and she has has to report > > to > > > > her > > > >

> > colleague. Also one of her junior who was reporting to her > > got > > > >

> > double promotion and he will lead her past team. > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > Birth Date : 03- Sep-1967 , Place : Madison , WI, USA> > > > > > > > >

> > > Parent gave her two diff. time of birth : 2,00 AM and 5.0 > PM.> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > past event ...> > > > > > > > > > > > 1> three sons...>

> > > > > 2> one year back husband went thru cataract operation.> > > > > > 3>

has one sister.> > > > > > 4> Husband was not working for long time .. very

recently > 15-> > 20 > > > > > days > > > > > > back started working again.> >

> > > > 5> around 15 months back 2nd son had fracture...> > > > > > 6> Very

diwn to earth lady, won't hesitate to say truth...> > > > > > 7> Very

passionate about her work.> > > > > > 8>She got news of demotion om 16th

Sep'2004 between 3.30 to > > 4.00> > > > > > 10> she still tells that the

person who got promoted is > very > > > > nice > > > > > > person .. shows how

kind hearted she is !!!> > > > > > 11>Very dominating in nature...> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Visti ji , could you please help me to rectify her time of

> > > > > birth ...> > > > > > > > > > > > Today, I asked myself question will

she regain her position > > > > > > > > > > > > Date : Nov-25-2004> > > > > >

Time : 10:52:41 > > > > > > Place : Madison , WI.> > > > > > > > > > > > And i

got vergottama lagna and lagna lord ... lagna lord > > > > aspecting > > > > >

> lagna .. so i think, she will regain her position as soon > as > > > > Sani >

> > > > > will be margi but i can not come to conclusion that in same > > > > >

company > > > > > > or other company ?> > > > > > > > > > > > Is my conclusion

based on Langa and Lagnes is corrct?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank

You,> > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Shah> > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Do you

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Rakesh, Namaskar

The method to identify the deity is;

Planets in the Bhava will indicate the deity, and if none are there, then the

lord will indicate.

Planets aspecting will not indicate the

deity, instead it will indicate the deity which leads the native towards the

Ishta.

So Moon is your Palana Devata, and you can

worship her as Uma or Gouri. Some would advise Bhubanesvari.

Best wishes,

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24 December 2004 12:33

visti (AT) (DOT) org;

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

how to rectify time of birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

12.0pt">

Hare

Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna

Hare Hare|

Hare Rama

Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare||

Dear Sir,

While I was understanding whether I should wear Pearl as it is the Lord of 5th house in D10,

I found some more things... Moon is my Palan Devata (may be) as it the lord of

6th house (Cancer, having no planet) from AMK

in Navamsa. But if you see the aspect to Cancer (movable sign) which are

Scorpio (I have Ke situated there), Taurus (I have four planets Ma, Ra, Su, Ve)

and Aq (no planet there in) I am unable to conclude that Moon is my Palan

Devata!!!

Can u please throw some light on it?

Thanks,

Rakesh.

-

"Visti Larsen"

"'Rakesh Sawant'"

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of

birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:57:14 +0100

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Rakesh, Namaskar

You cannot wear a gem for you mars, as it

is not in a kendra to Lagna. You must recite a mantra instead, which I think I

have given you. If your d10 is right (which I think it is) then you can indeed

wear a pearl…

Best wishes,

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23 December 2004 09:44

;

visti (AT) (DOT) org

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

how to rectify time of birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

12.0pt">

Hare

Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna

Hare Hare|

Hare Rama

Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare||

Dear Sir,

Is it always true? In my case Moon in the Lord of 5th house

(Cancer) in D10 and it is the planet in 5th house (Libra) in Rasi

too. But please note that I have neechabhanga RY due to Ve and Ju in 8th house

for Rasi chart. I am told by you to propitiate this RY by worshipping Ma who is

in 11th and also lord of 11th house. So in nutshell, can I wear pearl to

propitiate Moon and/or wear Coral to propitiate Mars?

Also please note that Ma is Ishta Devata for me as it is 12th lord from

Rahu's placement in Navamsa...

Thanks,

Rakesh.

-

"Visti Larsen"

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth for this chart

-- to Visti ji

Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:56:16 +0100

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

The gem of the 5th lord in D10

can give great rise and good jobs, hence the emerald.

Best wishes,

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[jitjag1 ]

22 December 2004 04:23

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

how to rectify time of birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

12.0pt">

font-family:Arial">Namasakar Visti ji,

12.0pt">

font-family:Arial">Thanks for your reply. You said that Planets causing neecha

bhanga are in Kendra from Ascendant then Gems can be worn it . now in her case

, planet causing neech bhanga is Venus so should she wear Diamond? But

you recommended her to wear emerald.

Sorry

for asking so many question.. Also could you please tell more about her career

... how would be her career?

Thank

You,

Yogesh

Shah

12.0pt">

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org>

wrote:

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

You see, the extent of neecha bhanga that

a planet gets can also be measured. This is a rule of 4 processes, based on the

4 instances that can cause neecha bhanga namely; 1) lord of exaltation sign 2)

lord of debilitation sign 3) planet which gets exalted in the debilitation sign

4) exaltation in navamsa.

If all 4 cases are there, it is called

Neecha Bhanga Rdjya Yoga. Same applies to all 3.

If only 2 are there then some benefits are

there, but if only 1 is there, then its a small and almost unnoticed rise.

Based on this I made the assesment.

Now if the planets causing neecha bhanga

are placed in kendra to Lagna, then the neecha bhanga will come automatically,

and gems can be worn to cause it.

If instead the planets causing neecha

bhanga are placed in a kendra to Moon, then mantras are required.

Best wishes,

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[jitjag1 ]

21 December 2004 17:05

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: how

to rectify time of birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

12.0pt">

Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar.

I am going on Vacation to Bombay,

India

at end of this week. I will

try to get copy of `Crux of Vedic'.

In previous mail you said that the It's possible

to give neechbhanga

to Saturn in D-10 but it is difficult. Is it

possible to produce

neechbhanga even though it is not there in

Horoscope? I was not aware

that.

Also, In her D-10 chart Mars and Saturn both are

neecha but both are

getting neechbhanga because for Mars, Moon is in

Kendra from Lagna

and For Saturn, Venus is in Kendra from Lagna as

well as Moon. Again

did I miss something for interpreting neechbhanga?

(For neechbhanga I

am taking sloka 26 of Phaldeepika).

Thank You,

Yogesh Shah

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

>

> You can find most of the answers to this in

Crux of Vedic

Astrology - 10th

> house Chapter.

>

> I shall be presenting some techniques for

timing in this regard,

for this

> upcoming conference.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> 20 December 2004 20:36

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify

time of birth for

this chart

> -- to Visti ji

>

> Dear Visti ji, Namsakar.

>

> Thanks again for reply. You said that

planet in 7th house in D-10

> gives excuse to end your job, could you

please explain how to find

> the timing of such events?

>

> Also there were two demotions at same time.

In her scenario, she is

> demoted to one level down while another

person got demoted to 3

level

> down. Beside that while announcing demotions

her immediate boss

said

> many good things about her and also made her

Project manage of very

> prestigious project (they did not gave her

pink slip (even layoffs

> are on card)). Is it due to

Jupiter, Mars well placed in D-1

Artha

> trikona or this things also should be judged

from D-10 (9th lord

> Venus in 10th house in D-10)?

>

> When I was going thru some articles on how to

read divisional

charts,

> which I have downloaded from the SJC site.

According to it 5th

house

> in D-10 indicates change job and most of the

time it happens in PD

of

> lord of the 5th. She is currently

passing thru Mercury(which is

5th

> lord in D-10) PD and after that Ketu(which is

in 11th house

aspecting

> 5th house) PD , does that mean both the PD

are fav. For change in

job.

>

> Her D-10 does not have too much strength ( as

per my little

> knowledge) , I could be wrong. She is very

ambitious, How would

her

> career be?

>

> Thank you,

>

> Yogesh Shah

>

> ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > Planets in the 7th house in d10 give you

excuses to end your job,

> This is

> > the case in her chart.

> >

> > The 5th lord Mercury have become weak

due to Saturns debility. So

> if we

> > wanto enhance her potential we must

enhance Mercury and ensure

> Saturn does

> > not get enhanced in the process. Another

way is by giving Saturn

> neecha

> > bhanga in the D10, but this is much

harder.

> >

> > The 10th house in the d1 chart shows how

you work. This is

heavily

> based on

> > seasons and how people work during those

seasons. Saturn is

Sisira

> Rtu,

> > namely Winter, and during this time

everybody stays indoors most

of

> the

> > time. This causes long periods without

jobs and then when the job

> is there,

> > the stress-load is huge.

> >

> > Everything we need to know about the job

is seen in the d10.

> >

> > If she gets a promotion then it will be

in the same job. If she

> gets a new

> > job, then a job-loss must be indicated.

Mercury is however

> indicating the

> > latter, as it is 8th lord, so I doubt

she will regain her

position.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> >

> > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Jitjag [jitjag1]

> > 19 December 2004 07:14

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how

to rectify time of birth

for

> this

> > chart -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Dear Visti Ji , Namsakar.

> >

> > Initially when she asked her parent for

TOB , she got 2 different

> time of

> > birth and that is why I was trying to

rectify her TOB.

> >

> > In your mail you mentioned that

"moon lord of 6th in 7th giving

> her some

> > ideas about converting her Job into a

business" but as far as I

> know she is

> > not planning any business as of now she

is just trying to come

out

> of this

> > shock because actually she was expecting

promotion but altogether

> opposite

> > happend.

> >

> > I have read in many books that the

Saturn in 10th gives very

> revolutionary

> > results like sudden ups and downs

and exactly same thing

> happening with

> > her also... I am still learning Jyotish

and still i do rely too

> much on the

> > Rasi chart ( because not knowing how to

interprete Divisional

> charts) . I

> > will send my reading to group tomorrow

so you and other learned

> member can

> > teach/correct me.

> >

> > You also mentioned that debiliated

Saturn and Mer is 3rd house

> in D-10

> > and you recommed her to wear emrald to

strenghtn Mer .. But since

> Mercury is

> > with the Saturn , Mercury

dasa/antar/pratyanpar dasa also will

not

> be

> > favorable , is that correct ?

> >

> > Also, will she regain position in same

company or other company?

> How can we

> > see that .. which house/divisional chart

should be considered for

> that?

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > Im curious why was this a

lost horoscope before?

> >

> > Vimshottari is fine for this chart, open

the dasamsa and see that

> Moon maha

> > dagd is running and is the 6th lord in

7th giving her some ideas

> about

> > converting her job into a business.

> >

> > Saturn antara dasa is running so check

Saturn;

> >

> > See that the 5th lord mercury is joined

a debilitated Saturn

this

> is very

> > bad, especially as Saturn is lagna lord,

showing bad name,

> reputation and a

> > resultant demotion. The good side is

that Lagna lord Rdhu is

> exalted in the

> > 5th house, but this has other downsides,

such as over-dependancy

on

> others

> > to do the work.

> >

> > The demotion happened in 16th Nov,

during Moon-Saturn-Saturn.

Right

> now

> > Moon-Saturn-Mercury is running and if we

give her an emerald to

> wear then we

> > can get her promoted quicker ENSURE that

she is not wearing a

blue

> saffire!

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> >

> > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Jitjag [jitjag1]

> > 17 December 2004 21:07

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how

to rectify time of birth

for

> this

> > chart -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Sorry , it for typo

> >

> > Got news of demotion on on

16th Nov'04 instead of 16th Sep'04.

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > Jitjag <jitjag1> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Visti ji,

> >

> > Finally got My ex-manager's

correct time of birth,

> >

> > Date : 03-sep-1967

> >

> > Place: Wausau,

Wisconsin,USA

> >

> > Time : 01.58 AM

> >

> > Got news of demotion on on

16th Sep'2004.

> >

> > Could you please now analyze her chart

and tell, will she be able

> to regain

> > her position , yes then when ? How her

career will be?

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> >

> > Comments below.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> >

> > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > 30 November 2004 22:51

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to

rectify time of birth for

> this chart

> > -- to Visti ji

> >

> > Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar

> >

> > I have a friend who has Mars with

Scorpio ascendant and he is

> skinny

> > so just got carried away with that. I am

aware of that the

Scorpio

> is

> > Kapha.

> >

> > [Visti] Mars can give a very thin waist.

> >

> > I have one more question for you if

planet is owner of two rashis

> > (except Moon and Sun) in that scenario

while interpreting results

> > which house ownership should be given

more important compare to

> other

> > house.

> >

> > [Visti] Rafal knows the answer to this,

ask him.

> >

> > If we take her chart with scorpio

ascendant then Mercury became

> lord

> > of 8th and 11th 8th house and lord

indicates the demotion or

> degrade

> > of person. But 11th house and lord of

11th indicates Labh i.e.

> > benefits How to interpret it's

association with 10th lord in 10th

> > house.

> >

> > >From Prasna chart you predicted that

she will be promoted but

you

> did

> > not mention when , could you please tell

tentative time period.

> >

> > Thank You,

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > >

> > > I have Scorpio Lagna with the Sun

in it, and I have put on a

good

> > ammount of

> > > weight. First learn the Dosha's of

Ayurveda; Vaata, Pitta,

Kapha

> and

> > > Tridoshic. Did you know that

Scorpio is Kapha?

> > >

> > > As for her regaining of position, I

still cannot say anything

> just

> > with the

> > > Rdgi, but I have given my oppinion

based on the Prasna chart.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > >

> > > <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > jitjag1 [jitjag1]

> > > 29 November 2004 17:39

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how

to rectify time of birth for

> > this chart

> > > -- to Visti ji

> > >

> > > Dear Visti Ji,

> >

> Her Mars is debilitated in

the Navamsa. But aspected by

> > > Juites with 5th Drishti and still

she is passing thru Moon

dasa .

> I

> > > am convinced by your explanation

that her ascendant is Scorpio,

> If

> > we

> > > take scorpio ascendant then 10th

house has Sun (lord of 10th) ,

> > Moon

> > > (lord of 9th) , Mercury ( lord of

8th and 11th) and Venus (lord

> of

> > > 7th and 12th ) . 8th house denotes

the degradation and since

8th

> > lord

> > > is in 10th house with 10th lord

gives demotion due to

subordinate

> (

> > > As per Dr. B.V. Raman , how to

judge horoscope part II) and

> exactly

> > > same thing happened with her

Still need to work on the Dasas.

> > > If we take Scorpio asc.

then will she regain her position ?

If

> > > yes , when?

> > > One more question, if Ascendant is

in Krur planets rashis (i.e.

> > > Rashis of Mars, Sun and Saturn )

and Krur planet is present in

> the

> > > Ascendant then stature of native

would be skinny or slim but

she

> is

> > > not skinny at all.

> > >

> > > Thank You,

> > > Yogesh Shah

> > >

> > > --- In

, "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Check the Navdmga dispositor

of Mars if its well placed,

then

> > she

> > > may

> > > > enjoy.

> > > >

> > > > As for Rdhu in 6th house I

find that such people have

terrible

> > > enemies!

> > > > Look at Sri Rama's chart: Rdhu

in 6th house you think He and

> > > Ravana were

> > > > friends?

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > Jitjag

[jitjag1]

> > > > 28 November 2004 20:27

> > > > To:

> > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

how to rectify time of birth

for

> > > this chart

> > > > -- to Visti ji

> > > >

> > > > Thank You Visti Ji.

> > > >

> > > > I have one doubt about Scorpio

as Ascendant . If scorpio is

> > > ascendant then

> > > > Retro Sat. is in 5th house and

she has 3 sons . Also 9th,10th

> and

> > > 11th lord

> > > > in 10th house which is

Dharma-Karmadhi pati yoga most

powerful

> > yoga

> > > and Mars

> > > > in 1st house scorpio which is

one more maha purusha yoga But

> she

> > is

> > > not

> > > > enjoying any Raj yoga .. Also

as per Dr. B.V. Raman if Rahu

is

> in

> > > 6th,

> > > > native will not have enemies

which is not true in her case.

> > > >

> > > > I think i am tryin to come to

conclusion with only Rasi Chart

> and

> > > that is

> > > > why i am asking so many

question.

> > > >

> > > > Thank You,

> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

<visti@s...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Im pretty convinced that

its Scorpio. Mars in Lagna can act

> like

> > a

> > > General

> > > > and be very dominating.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > jitjag1

[jitjag1]

> > > > 28 November 2004 16:47

> > > > To:

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

how to rectify time of birth

for

> > > this chart

> > > > -- to Visti ji

> > > >

> > > > Hi Visti Ji, Namsakar..

> > > >

> > > > Based on my limited knowledge

i tried to find out the

ascendant

> > of

> > > > my ex-manager.

> > > > Could you please give your

opinion about my understanding and

> > > > interpretetion...

> > > >

> > > > Thank You,

> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, "jitjag1" <jitjag1>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Visti Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Her parents gave two

different timing i.e. 5.00 AM and 2.00

> > PM...

> > > > > Birth Date : 03- Sep-1967

, Place : Madison

, WI,

USA

> > > >

> > > > > 1>5.00 AM gives

> > > >

>

Rasi

> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > > |

\

/ \

HL / |

> > > > > | \

/ \

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> > > > > |

\

/

\ /

|

> > > > >

| \ 6

/ Su

\ / |

> > > > >

| \

/

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> > > > >

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|

> > > > >

| /

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> > > > >

| /

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> > > > > |

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> > > > > |

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> > > > > |

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> > > > >

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> > > > > |

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> > > > > |

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/ |

> > > > > |

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> > > > >

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> > > > >

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> > > > >

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> > > > >

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> > > > >

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> > > > > |

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> > > > > |

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> > > > > |

/

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> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > she has 3 son and jupiter

is in 12th house and 5th house is

> > > > aspected

> > > > > by saturn so Leo

cann't be her ascendant. After that i

> changed

> > > > time

> > > > > to 4.50 AM and

ascendant changed to Cancer with Jupiter in

> it..

> > > > >

> > > > > 2> 4.50 AM

> > > > >

> > > >

>

Rasi

> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > > |

\ Mo Me

/ \

Md / |

> > > > > |

\ Su

/ \

HL / |

> > > > > |

\ VeR

/

\

/ |

> > > > >

| \

/ Ju

\ 3 / |

> > > > >

| \

5/

\ / |

> > > > >

|AL 6

x

As x

2 Gk |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > > |

/

\

/ \

|

> > > > > |

/

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> > > > > |

/

\

/

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> > > > >

|

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|

> > > > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > > > |

\

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\

/ |

> > > > > |

\

/

\ /

|

> > > > >

| \

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\ / |

> > > > >

| \

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\ / |

> > > > >

|Ma 8

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> > > > >

| /

\

/ \ |

> > > > >

| / 9

\

/ 11 \ |

> > > > > |

/

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> > > > > |

/

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> > > > > |

/

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> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Which matches her few

past events ... Jupiter , putra karka

> > > > exalted

> > > > > and aspecting 5th(1st

son),7th house(2nd son) and 9th house

> > (3rd

> > > > > son). also 5th house lord

is placed in 5th house ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Also Rahu is in 10th

house shows she has problem with her

> > > > colleagues

> > > > > and i have been witness

of it. Also currently Gochar rahu

is

> on

> > > > > Natal Rahu .. so It shows

issue related to career...

> > > > >

> > > > > Timing : 2.00 PM...

> > > >

>

Rasi

> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > > |

\

Gk

/

\

/ |

> > > > > |

\ Md

/ \

Ke / |

> > > > > |

\

/

\

/ |

> > > > >

| \

/ Ma

\ 7 / |

> > > > >

| \ 9

/

\ / |

> > > > >

| 10

x

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|

> > > > >

| /

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> > > > >

| /

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> > > > > |

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> > > > > |

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> > > > > |

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> > > > >

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> > > > > |

\

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\

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> > > > > |

\

/ \

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> > > > > |

\

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> > > > >

| \

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> > > > >

| \

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> > > > > |SaR GL 12

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> > > > >

| /

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> > > > >

| / 1

\

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> > > > > |

/

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/ \

|

> > > > > |

/ Ra

\

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\ |

> > > > > |

/

HL

\

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> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > This chart also show the

tension at work front but saturn's

> > > > presence

> > > > > in makes bit difficult to

explain 3 sons... Also Normally i

> > have

> > > > > noticed that if Mars is

in ascendant , normally person has

> some

> > > > > marks due to injury on

forhead which is not present in her

> > > case .

> > > > > Also combination of 9th ,

10th , 11th (also 8th) and 7th (

> also

> > > > > 12th) lords in 10th is

great raja yoga but she is not

> enjoying

> > > any

> > > > > Raja yoga .. Also

as per Dr. B.V. Raman If Rahu in 6th ,

> > native

> > > > > will not have many

enemies, which is not true in her case...

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Ji, Do you think

that the reasons given by me are on

> > right

> > > > > direction or did i miss

manythings.. first of all since she

> is

> > > > very

> > > > > nice to me so i am bit

biased while looking at her chart...

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank You,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, "Visti Larsen"

> > <visti@s...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Yogesh,

Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Try Scorpio or

Capricorn lagna - It seems, at her work

> > place,

> > > > > somebody is

> > > > > > jealous and has

given her some bad-reputation, which is

the

> > > > reason

> > > > > for her

> > > > > > demotion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > visti@s...

> > > > > >

_____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jitjag

[jitjag1]

> > > > > > 25 November

2004 21:14

> > > > > > To:

> > > > > > RE: [Om

Krishna Guru] how to rectify time of

birth

> > for

> > > > > this chart

> > > > > > -- to Visti ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Visti Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank You for quick

reply.. She was my ex-manger .. she

> > helped

> > > > me

> > > > > a lot

> > > > > > during last 1 and

half year ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you said that ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >>however

there is some sort of jealousy going on, which

is

> > > > > obstructing it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Could you please

explain what it means?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank You,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

<visti@s...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Yogesh,

Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With such little

information about the birthtime, you

> should

> > > > have

> > > > > applied

> > > > > > Nashta Jdtaka

Prasna principles on her chart to find the

> > right

> > > > > birthtime.

> > > > > > Drawing a prasna and

asking someone else to answer it

> defies

> > > the

> > > > > point of

> > > > > > drawing it in the

first place. From the Prasna I drew, I

> saw

> > a

> > > > > possibility

> > > > > > of a promotion, however

there is some sort of jealousy

> going

> > > on,

> > > > > which is

> > > > > > obstructing it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please tell how this

person is related to you so I can

> > continue.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > visti@s...

> > > > > >

_____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > jitjag1

[jitjag1]

> > > > > > 25 November

2004 19:19

> > > > > > To:

> > > > > > [Om Krishna

Guru] how to rectify time of birth

for

> > > this

> > > > > chart -- to

> > > > > > Visti ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I

got Date of birth from a person who just got

demoted

> > from

> > > > > > Manager's position

to Project manager .. (initially 5 ppl

> > > > > reporting

> > > > > > and now none is

reporting to her) and she has has to

report

> > to

> > > > her

> > > > > > colleague. Also one

of her junior who was reporting to

her

> > got

> > > > > > double promotion and

he will lead her past team.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Birth Date : 03-

Sep-1967 , Place : Madison

, WI,

USA

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Parent gave her two

diff. time of birth : 2,00 AM and 5.0

> PM.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > past event ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1> three sons...

> > > > > > 2> one year back

husband went thru cataract operation.

> > > > > > 3> has one

sister.

> > > > > > 4> Husband was

not working for long time .. very recently

> 15-

> > 20

> > > > > days

> > > > > > back started working

again.

> > > > > > 5> around 15

months back 2nd son had fracture...

> > > > > > 6> Very diwn to

earth lady, won't hesitate to say truth...

> > > > > > 7> Very

passionate about her work.

> > > > > > 8>She got news of

demotion om 16th Sep'2004 between 3.30

to

> > 4.00

> > > > > > 10> she still

tells that the person who got promoted is

> very

> > > > nice

> > > > > > person .. shows how

kind hearted she is !!!

> > > > > > 11>Very

dominating in nature...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti ji , could you

please help me to rectify her time

of

> > > > > birth ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Today, I asked

myself question will she regain her

position

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Date : Nov-25-2004

> > > > > > Time : 10:52:41

> > > > > > Place : Madison

, WI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And i got vergottama

lagna and lagna lord ... lagna lord

> > > > aspecting

> > > > > > lagna .. so i think,

she will regain her position as soon

> as

> > > > Sani

> > > > > > will be margi but i

can not come to conclusion that in

same

> > > > > company

> > > > > > or other company ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is my conclusion

based on Langa and Lagnes is corrct?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank You,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yogesh Shah

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December 24, 2004

Hare Rama Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare||

Dear Sir,

How do you worship Uma OR Gauri OR Bhubaneshwari? Any link or readings you

can suggest? How about keeping Moon's Yantra for worshipping in Puja house?

Any mantra you can suggest?

Thanks,

Rakesh.

-"Visti Larsen'Rakesh Sawant'" Subject:

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth for this chart -- to

Visti jiFri, 24 Dec 2004 13:14:11 +0100

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Rakesh, Namaskar

The method to identify the deity is; Planets in the Bhava will indicate the

deity, and if none are there, then the lord will indicate.

Planets aspecting will not indicate the deity, instead it will indicate the

deity which leads the native towards the Ishta.

So Moon is your Palana Devata, and you can worship her as Uma or Gouri. Some

would advise Bhubanesvari.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

Rakesh Sawant [rak1001 (AT) lycos (DOT) com] 24 December 2004 12:33To:

visti (AT) (DOT) org; visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comSubject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

how to rectify time of birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare|

Hare Rama Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare||

Dear Sir,

While I was understanding whether I should wear Pearl as it is the Lord of

5th house in D10, I found some more things... Moon is my Palan Devata (may be)

as it the lord of 6th house (Cancer, having no planet) from AMK in Navamsa. But

if you see the aspect to Cancer (movable sign) which are Scorpio (I have Ke

situated there), Taurus (I have four planets Ma, Ra, Su, Ve) and Aq (no planet

there in) I am unable to conclude that Moon is my Palan Devata!!!

Can u please throw some light on it?

Thanks,

Rakesh.

-"Visti Larsen'Rakesh Sawant'" Subject:

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth for this chart -- to

Visti jiThu, 23 Dec 2004 09:57:14 +0100

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Rakesh, Namaskar

You cannot wear a gem for you mars, as it is not in a kendra to Lagna. You must

recite a mantra instead, which I think I have given you. If your d10 is right

(which I think it is) then you can indeed wear a pearl…

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

Rakesh Sawant [rak1001 (AT) lycos (DOT) com] 23 December 2004 09:44To:

; visti (AT) (DOT) orgSubject: RE: [Om Krishna

Guru] Re: how to rectify time of birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare|

Hare Rama Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare||

Dear Sir,

Is it always true? In my case Moon in the Lord of 5th house (Cancer) in

D10 and it is the planet in 5th house (Libra) in Rasi too. But please note that

I have neechabhanga RY due to Ve and Ju in 8th house for Rasi chart. I am told

by you to propitiate this RY by worshipping Ma who is in 11th and also lord of

11th house. So in nutshell, can I wear pearl to propitiate Moon and/or wear

Coral to propitiate Mars?

Also please note that Ma is Ishta Devata for me as it is 12th lord from

Rahu's placement in Navamsa...

Thanks,

Rakesh.

-"Visti Larsen" To:

Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify

time of birth for this chart -- to Visti jiWed, 22 Dec 2004 13:56:16

+0100

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

The gem of the 5th lord in D10 can give great rise and good jobs, hence the emerald.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

Jitjag [jitjag1 ] 22 December 2004 04:23To:

Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: how to rectify

time of birth for this chart -- to Visti ji

Namasakar Visti ji,

Thanks for your reply. You said that Planets causing neecha bhanga are in Kendra

from Ascendant then Gems can be worn it . now in her case , planet causing neech

bhanga is Venus so should she wear Diamond? But you recommended her to wear

emerald.

Sorry for asking so many question.. Also could you please tell more about her

career .. how would be her career?

Thank You,

Yogesh Shah

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Yogesh, Namaskar

You see, the extent of neecha bhanga that a planet gets can also be measured.

This is a rule of 4 processes, based on the 4 instances that can cause neecha

bhanga namely; 1) lord of exaltation sign 2) lord of debilitation sign 3)

planet which gets exalted in the debilitation sign 4) exaltation in navamsa.

If all 4 cases are there, it is called Neecha Bhanga Rdjya Yoga. Same applies to all 3.

If only 2 are there then some benefits are there, but if only 1 is there, then

its a small and almost unnoticed rise.

Based on this I made the assesment.

Now if the planets causing neecha bhanga are placed in kendra to Lagna, then the

neecha bhanga will come automatically, and gems can be worn to cause it.

If instead the planets causing neecha bhanga are placed in a kendra to Moon,

then mantras are required.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen