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::Hare Rama Krsna::

Esteemed members and Jyotish Gurus,

The following are details of Mohammed Ali.

Birth details are as follows: Jan. 17, 1942, 18:30, 85W46, 38N15, TZ 6:00W.

"In the shashtamsa, the lords of the second and seventh houses are marakas" COVA pg. 223.

In this chart Mercury and Mars take these positions.

My question: Does Mercury's rasi drsti onto Sun, the sixth lord, show the defeat of his enemies?

Is this the manner in which one should read the chart? That the first lord

indicates the person themselves

and the sixth lord rule their opponents? Marakas influencing either of these

planets should show their defeat?

When Ali won a gold medal at the olympics in 1960 he was running antar of Mercury.

When Ali regained heavyweight title in October 1974 against tough opposition,

again it was Mercury antar.

Is this the correct approach?

Corrections and advice would be appreciated.

Regards,

Michal.

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Dear Michal, Namaskar

That approach is not entirely correct. The

D6 is used to see ones overcoming of sharipu or sins, and it would not be right

to say that Mr. Ali was fighitng sin when he was fighting in the ring. That

would also mean that each of his competitors were his enemies.

But you are right that the 7th lord

is the destroyer of the enemy, as it is maraka to the 6th house.

 

A more acurate approach would be to analyze

the d-10 and see Mercury there. Mercury is debilitated ensuring great wealth in

career. Sun is 10th lord and debilitated again promising great

wealth. Mars the lagna lord is also debilitated promising the same.

Note that the planets being debilitated

shows that the method using to gain wealth was one of defaming, dethrowning or

scaring other beings, which basically is what a boxer does to his opponent, and

earns from.

Best wishes,

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Rama Krsna::

Esteemed

members and Jyotish Gurus,

The

following are details of Mohammed Ali.

Birth

details are as follows: Jan. 17, 1942, 18:30, 85W46, 38N15, TZ 6:00W.

"In

the shashtamsa, the lords of the second and seventh houses are marakas"

COVA pg. 223.

In this

chart Mercury and Mars take these positions.

My

question: Does Mercury's rasi drsti onto Sun, the sixth lord, show the defeat

of his enemies?

Is this

the manner in which one should read the chart? That the first lord indicates

the person themselves

and the

sixth lord rule their opponents? Marakas influencing either of these planets

should show their defeat?

When Ali

won a gold medal at the olympics in 1960 he was running antar of Mercury.

When Ali

regained heavyweight title in October 1974 against tough opposition, again it

was Mercury antar.

Is this

the correct approach?

Corrections

and advice would be appreciated.

Regards,

Michal.

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Hi, Visti,

Why look at D-10 for wealth? Why look at L10 in D10

for wealth?

Jai Guru Dev,

Steve

--- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

 

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Michal, Namaskar

>

> That approach is not entirely correct. The D6 is

> used to see ones overcoming

> of sharipu or sins, and it would not be right to say

> that Mr. Ali was

> fighitng sin when he was fighting in the ring. That

> would also mean that

> each of his competitors were his enemies.

>

> But you are right that the 7th lord is the destroyer

> of the enemy, as it is

> maraka to the 6th house.

>

>

>

> A more acurate approach would be to analyze the d-10

> and see Mercury there.

> Mercury is debilitated ensuring great wealth in

> career. Sun is 10th lord and

> debilitated again promising great wealth. Mars the

> lagna lord is also

> debilitated promising the same.

>

> Note that the planets being debilitated shows that

> the method using to gain

> wealth was one of defaming, dethrowning or scaring

> other beings, which

> basically is what a boxer does to his opponent, and

> earns from.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti visti

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal]

>

> 08 December 2004 01:35

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] shashtamsa chart

>

>

>

> ::Hare Rama Krsna::

>

> Esteemed members and Jyotish Gurus,

>

> The following are details of Mohammed Ali.

>

> Birth details are as follows: Jan. 17, 1942, 18:30,

> 85W46, 38N15, TZ 6:00W.

>

> "In the shashtamsa, the lords of the second and

> seventh houses are marakas"

> COVA pg. 223.

>

> In this chart Mercury and Mars take these positions.

>

> My question: Does Mercury's rasi drsti onto Sun, the

> sixth lord, show the

> defeat of his enemies?

>

> Is this the manner in which one should read the

> chart? That the first lord

> indicates the person themselves

>

> and the sixth lord rule their opponents? Marakas

> influencing either of these

> planets should show their defeat?

>

> When Ali won a gold medal at the olympics in 1960 he

> was running antar of

> Mercury.

>

> When Ali regained heavyweight title in October 1974

> against tough

> opposition, again it was Mercury antar.

>

> Is this the correct approach?

>

> Corrections and advice would be appreciated.

>

> Regards,

>

> Michal.

>

> ::Om Tat Sat::

>

> _____

>

>

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> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

> Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> Great who said that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

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|| Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Steve, Namaskar

Actually the D-10 can be used to see how much wealth your work gives you,

this is then distributed to a manager, if you have one, and other expenses.

Your own wealth and when it comes and goes is seen from the D2 chart - I

presented this topic at the West Coast 2004 - Kasinatha Hora.

Best wishes,

 

Visti Larsen

visti

 

 

 

 

Stephen K. Sufian [veda108]

10 December 2004 16:59

 

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Hi, Visti,

Why look at D-10 for wealth? Why look at L10 in D10

for wealth?

Jai Guru Dev,

Steve

--- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

 

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Michal, Namaskar

>

> That approach is not entirely correct. The D6 is

> used to see ones overcoming

> of sharipu or sins, and it would not be right to say

> that Mr. Ali was

> fighitng sin when he was fighting in the ring. That

> would also mean that

> each of his competitors were his enemies.

>

> But you are right that the 7th lord is the destroyer

> of the enemy, as it is

> maraka to the 6th house.

>

>

>

> A more acurate approach would be to analyze the d-10

> and see Mercury there.

> Mercury is debilitated ensuring great wealth in

> career. Sun is 10th lord and

> debilitated again promising great wealth. Mars the

> lagna lord is also

> debilitated promising the same.

>

> Note that the planets being debilitated shows that

> the method using to gain

> wealth was one of defaming, dethrowning or scaring

> other beings, which

> basically is what a boxer does to his opponent, and

> earns from.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti visti

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal]

>

> 08 December 2004 01:35

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] shashtamsa chart

>

>

>

> ::Hare Rama Krsna::

>

> Esteemed members and Jyotish Gurus,

>

> The following are details of Mohammed Ali.

>

> Birth details are as follows: Jan. 17, 1942, 18:30,

> 85W46, 38N15, TZ 6:00W.

>

> "In the shashtamsa, the lords of the second and

> seventh houses are marakas"

> COVA pg. 223.

>

> In this chart Mercury and Mars take these positions.

>

> My question: Does Mercury's rasi drsti onto Sun, the

> sixth lord, show the

> defeat of his enemies?

>

> Is this the manner in which one should read the

> chart? That the first lord

> indicates the person themselves

>

> and the sixth lord rule their opponents? Marakas

> influencing either of these

> planets should show their defeat?

>

> When Ali won a gold medal at the olympics in 1960 he

> was running antar of

> Mercury.

>

> When Ali regained heavyweight title in October 1974

> against tough

> opposition, again it was Mercury antar.

>

> Is this the correct approach?

>

> Corrections and advice would be appreciated.

>

> Regards,

>

> Michal.

>

> ::Om Tat Sat::

>

> _____

>

>

> Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn

>

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> more.

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

> Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> Great who said that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> free chart reading today

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OK. To make sure I'm understanding correctly--I've

always understood that the 11th house is the house of

revolving income (routine income that comes from one's

profession, status, actions). The 11th is the 2d from

the 10th so it's the wealth of the 10th. Is this the

idea?

Hare Rama Bol,

Steve

--- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

 

> || Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear Steve, Namaskar

> Actually the D-10 can be used to see how much wealth

> your work gives you,

> this is then distributed to a manager, if you have

> one, and other expenses.

> Your own wealth and when it comes and goes is seen

> from the D2 chart - I

> presented this topic at the West Coast 2004 -

> Kasinatha Hora.

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

> visti

>

>

>

>

> Stephen K. Sufian [veda108]

> 10 December 2004 16:59

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] shashtamsa chart

>

>

> Hi, Visti,

> Why look at D-10 for wealth? Why look at L10 in D10

> for wealth?

> Jai Guru Dev,

> Steve

> --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Michal, Namaskar

> >

> > That approach is not entirely correct. The D6 is

> > used to see ones overcoming

> > of sharipu or sins, and it would not be right to

> say

> > that Mr. Ali was

> > fighitng sin when he was fighting in the ring.

> That

> > would also mean that

> > each of his competitors were his enemies.

> >

> > But you are right that the 7th lord is the

> destroyer

> > of the enemy, as it is

> > maraka to the 6th house.

> >

> >

> >

> > A more acurate approach would be to analyze the

> d-10

> > and see Mercury there.

> > Mercury is debilitated ensuring great wealth in

> > career. Sun is 10th lord and

> > debilitated again promising great wealth. Mars the

> > lagna lord is also

> > debilitated promising the same.

> >

> > Note that the planets being debilitated shows that

> > the method using to gain

> > wealth was one of defaming, dethrowning or scaring

> > other beings, which

> > basically is what a boxer does to his opponent,

> and

> > earns from.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > http://srigaruda.com

> >

> > <visti visti

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Michal Dziwulski

> [nearmichal]

> >

> > 08 December 2004 01:35

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] shashtamsa chart

> >

> >

> >

> > ::Hare Rama Krsna::

> >

> > Esteemed members and Jyotish Gurus,

> >

> > The following are details of Mohammed Ali.

> >

> > Birth details are as follows: Jan. 17, 1942,

> 18:30,

> > 85W46, 38N15, TZ 6:00W.

> >

> > "In the shashtamsa, the lords of the second and

> > seventh houses are marakas"

> > COVA pg. 223.

> >

> > In this chart Mercury and Mars take these

> positions.

> >

> > My question: Does Mercury's rasi drsti onto Sun,

> the

> > sixth lord, show the

> > defeat of his enemies?

> >

> > Is this the manner in which one should read the

> > chart? That the first lord

> > indicates the person themselves

> >

> > and the sixth lord rule their opponents? Marakas

> > influencing either of these

> > planets should show their defeat?

> >

> > When Ali won a gold medal at the olympics in 1960

> he

> > was running antar of

> > Mercury.

> >

> > When Ali regained heavyweight title in October

> 1974

> > against tough

> > opposition, again it was Mercury antar.

> >

> > Is this the correct approach?

> >

> > Corrections and advice would be appreciated.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Michal.

> >

> > ::Om Tat Sat::

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> > Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn

> >

>

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> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

> Achyuta

> > Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> > Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> > Great who said that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> > free chart reading today

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Hi Steve, Namaskar

Ever seen the depiction of a donkey driven

by a man holding a carrot on a string in front of it? This is what the 11th

house is – it’s the hopes and desires that we can look forward to

fulfilling.

So since the 11th house is the

2nd from the 10th house, these hopes and desires sustain

our career and karma yoga. Problem is that once we achieve our desires we make

new ones, and then we are only getting ready for our rebirth, and can risk

changing/ending our karma yoga too early. So when Sri Krishna asks us to work

without expectations, he was actually highlighting this aspect of Jyotish.

Best wishes,

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To make sure I'm understanding correctly--I've

always understood that the 11th house is the house

of

revolving income (routine income that comes from

one's

profession, status, actions). The 11th is the 2d

from

the 10th so it's the wealth of the 10th. Is this

the

idea?

Hare Rama Bol,

Steve

--- Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org>

wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear Steve, Namaskar

> Actually the D-10 can be used to see how much

wealth

> your work gives you,

> this is then distributed to a manager, if you

have

> one, and other expenses.

> Your own wealth and when it comes and goes is

seen

> from the D2 chart - I

> presented this topic at the West Coast 2004 -

> Kasinatha Hora.

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

> visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

>

>

>

>

> Stephen K. Sufian

[veda108 ]

> 10 December 2004 16:59

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] shashtamsa

chart

>

>

> Hi, Visti,

> Why look at D-10 for wealth? Why look at L10

in D10

> for wealth?

> Jai Guru Dev,

> Steve

> --- Visti Larsen

<visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

>

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Michal, Namaskar

> >

> > That approach is not entirely correct.

The D6 is

> > used to see ones overcoming

> > of sharipu or sins, and it would not be

right to

> say

> > that Mr. Ali was

> > fighitng sin when he was fighting in the

ring.

> That

> > would also mean that

> > each of his competitors were his

enemies.

> >

> > But you are right that the 7th lord is

the

> destroyer

> > of the enemy, as it is

> > maraka to the 6th house.

> >

> >

> >

> > A more acurate approach would be to

analyze the

> d-10

> > and see Mercury there.

> > Mercury is debilitated ensuring great

wealth in

> > career. Sun is 10th lord and

> > debilitated again promising great wealth.

Mars the

> > lagna lord is also

> > debilitated promising the same.

> >

> > Note that the planets being debilitated

shows that

> > the method using to gain

> > wealth was one of defaming, dethrowning

or scaring

> > other beings, which

> > basically is what a boxer does to his

opponent,

> and

> > earns from.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > http://srigaruda.com

> >

> > <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Michal Dziwulski

> [nearmichal ]

> >

> > 08 December 2004 01:35

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] shashtamsa

chart

> >

> >

> >

> > ::Hare Rama Krsna::

> >

> > Esteemed members and Jyotish Gurus,

> >

> > The following are details of Mohammed

Ali.

> >

> > Birth details are as follows: Jan. 17,

1942,

> 18:30,

> > 85W46, 38N15, TZ 6:00W.

> >

> > "In the shashtamsa, the lords of

the second and

> > seventh houses are marakas"

> > COVA pg. 223.

> >

> > In this chart Mercury and Mars take

these

> positions.

> >

> > My question: Does Mercury's rasi drsti

onto Sun,

> the

> > sixth lord, show the

> > defeat of his enemies?

> >

> > Is this the manner in which one should

read the

> > chart? That the first lord

> > indicates the person themselves

> >

> > and the sixth lord rule their opponents?

Marakas

> > influencing either of these

> > planets should show their defeat?

> >

> > When Ali won a gold medal at the olympics

in 1960

> he

> > was running antar of

> > Mercury.

> >

> > When Ali regained heavyweight title in

October

> 1974

> > against tough

> > opposition, again it was Mercury antar.

> >

> > Is this the correct approach?

> >

> > Corrections and advice would be

appreciated.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Michal.

> >

> > ::Om Tat Sat::

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Hare Rama Krshna,

OK. So we expand our conception of wealth to be based

on spiritual wealth; then the 11th house carrot takes

us to Narayana.

Backtracking: how did this thread of D6, D10 arise

from shastiamsa? I seem to have missed or accidentally

deleted some email.

Steve

--- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

 

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Hi Steve, Namaskar

>

> Ever seen the depiction of a donkey driven by a man

> holding a carrot on a

> string in front of it? This is what the 11th house

> is - it's the hopes and

> desires that we can look forward to fulfilling.

>

> So since the 11th house is the 2nd from the 10th

> house, these hopes and

> desires sustain our career and karma yoga. Problem

> is that once we achieve

> our desires we make new ones, and then we are only

> getting ready for our

> rebirth, and can risk changing/ending our karma yoga

> too early. So when Sri

> Krishna asks us to work without expectations, he was

> actually highlighting

> this aspect of Jyotish.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti visti

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Stephen K. Sufian [veda108]

> 10 December 2004 20:07

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] shashtamsa chart

>

>

>

>

>

> Survey

> Please help us to improve .

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>

>

> OK. To make sure I'm understanding correctly--I've

> always understood that the 11th house is the house

> of

> revolving income (routine income that comes from

> one's

> profession, status, actions). The 11th is the 2d

> from

> the 10th so it's the wealth of the 10th. Is this the

> idea?

> Hare Rama Bol,

> Steve

> --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> > || Hare Rama Krsna||

> > Dear Steve, Namaskar

> > Actually the D-10 can be used to see how much

> wealth

> > your work gives you,

> > this is then distributed to a manager, if you have

> > one, and other expenses.

> > Your own wealth and when it comes and goes is seen

> > from the D2 chart - I

> > presented this topic at the West Coast 2004 -

> > Kasinatha Hora.

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> > visti

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Stephen K. Sufian [veda108]

>

> > 10 December 2004 16:59

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] shashtamsa chart

> >

> >

> > Hi, Visti,

> > Why look at D-10 for wealth? Why look at L10 in

> D10

> > for wealth?

> > Jai Guru Dev,

> > Steve

> > --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

> >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Michal, Namaskar

> > >

> > > That approach is not entirely correct. The D6 is

> > > used to see ones overcoming

> > > of sharipu or sins, and it would not be right to

> > say

> > > that Mr. Ali was

> > > fighitng sin when he was fighting in the ring.

> > That

> > > would also mean that

> > > each of his competitors were his enemies.

> > >

> > > But you are right that the 7th lord is the

> > destroyer

> > > of the enemy, as it is

> > > maraka to the 6th house.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > A more acurate approach would be to analyze the

> > d-10

> > > and see Mercury there.

> > > Mercury is debilitated ensuring great wealth in

> > > career. Sun is 10th lord and

> > > debilitated again promising great wealth. Mars

> the

> > > lagna lord is also

> > > debilitated promising the same.

> > >

> > > Note that the planets being debilitated shows

> that

> > > the method using to gain

> > > wealth was one of defaming, dethrowning or

> scaring

> > > other beings, which

> > > basically is what a boxer does to his opponent,

> > and

> > > earns from.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > http://srigaruda.com

> > >

> > > <visti

> visti

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Michal Dziwulski

> > [nearmichal]

> > >

> > > 08 December 2004 01:35

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] shashtamsa chart

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ::Hare Rama Krsna::

> > >

> > > Esteemed members and Jyotish Gurus,

> > >

> > > The following are details of Mohammed Ali.

> > >

> > > Birth details are as follows: Jan. 17, 1942,

> > 18:30,

> > > 85W46, 38N15, TZ 6:00W.

> > >

> > > "In the shashtamsa, the lords of the second and

> > > seventh houses are marakas"

> > > COVA pg. 223.

> > >

> > > In this chart Mercury and Mars take these

> > positions.

> > >

> > > My question: Does Mercury's rasi drsti onto Sun,

> > the

> > > sixth lord, show the

> > > defeat of his enemies?

> > >

> > > Is this the manner in which one should read the

> > > chart? That the first lord

> > > indicates the person themselves

> > >

> > > and the sixth lord rule their opponents? Marakas

> > > influencing either of these

> > > planets should show their defeat?

> > >

> > > When Ali won a gold medal at the olympics in

> 1960

>

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Steve, Namaskar

Unfortunately the 11th house

carrot causes our rebirth – the idea is to avoid the carrot, then the 11th

house doesn’t dominate over the 12th house which gives us

moksha.

Shasthamsa was the thread – Shasta means

6. You mistook if for Shasty-amsa

Best wishes,

font-weight:bold">

color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen

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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Stephen K.

Sufian [veda108 ]

11 December 2004 20:14

 

RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

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12.0pt">

10.0pt">Hare Rama Krshna,

OK. So we expand our conception of wealth to be

based

on spiritual wealth; then the 11th house carrot

takes

us to Narayana.

Backtracking: how did this thread of D6, D10 arise

from shastiamsa? I seem to have missed or

accidentally

deleted some email.

Steve

--- Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Hi Steve, Namaskar

>

> Ever seen the depiction of a donkey driven by

a man

> holding a carrot on a

> string in front of it? This is what the 11th

house

> is - it's the hopes and

> desires that we can look forward to

fulfilling.

>

> So since the 11th house is the 2nd from the

10th

> house, these hopes and

> desires sustain our career and karma yoga.

Problem

> is that once we achieve

> our desires we make new ones, and then we are

only

> getting ready for our

> rebirth, and can risk changing/ending our

karma yoga

> too early. So when Sri

> Krishna asks

us to work without expectations, he was

> actually highlighting

> this aspect of Jyotish.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Stephen K. Sufian

[veda108 ]

> 10 December 2004 20:07

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] shashtamsa

chart

>

>

>

>

>

> Survey

> Please help us to improve .

>

<http://v2.decipherinc.com/survey//yah04021?list=2>

> Take the survey

> now!

>

>

> OK. To make sure I'm understanding

correctly--I've

> always understood that the 11th house is the

house

> of

> revolving income (routine income that comes

from

> one's

> profession, status, actions). The 11th is the

2d

> from

> the 10th so it's the wealth of the 10th. Is

this the

> idea?

> Hare Rama Bol,

> Steve

> --- Visti Larsen

<visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

>

> > || Hare Rama Krsna||

> > Dear Steve, Namaskar

> > Actually the D-10 can be used to see how

much

> wealth

> > your work gives you,

> > this is then distributed to a manager,

if you have

> > one, and other expenses.

> > Your own wealth and when it comes and

goes is seen

> > from the D2 chart - I

> > presented this topic at the West Coast

2004 -

> > Kasinatha Hora.

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> > visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Stephen K. Sufian

[veda108 ]

>

> > 10 December 2004 16:59

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

shashtamsa chart

> >

> >

> > Hi, Visti,

> > Why look at D-10 for wealth? Why look at

L10 in

> D10

> > for wealth?

> > Jai Guru Dev,

> > Steve

> > --- Visti Larsen

<visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

> >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Michal, Namaskar

> > >

> > > That approach is not entirely

correct. The D6 is

> > > used to see ones overcoming

> > > of sharipu or sins, and it would

not be right to

> > say

> > > that Mr. Ali was

> > > fighitng sin when he was fighting

in the ring.

> > That

> > > would also mean that

> > > each of his competitors were his

enemies.

> > >

> > > But you are right that the 7th lord

is the

> > destroyer

> > > of the enemy, as it is

> > > maraka to the 6th house.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > A more acurate approach would be to

analyze the

> > d-10

> > > and see Mercury there.

> > > Mercury is debilitated ensuring

great wealth in

> > > career. Sun is 10th lord and

> > > debilitated again promising great

wealth. Mars

> the

> > > lagna lord is also

> > > debilitated promising the same.

> > >

> > > Note that the planets being

debilitated shows

> that

> > > the method using to gain

> > > wealth was one of defaming,

dethrowning or

> scaring

> > > other beings, which

> > > basically is what a boxer does to

his opponent,

> > and

> > > earns from.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > http://srigaruda.com

> > >

> > >

<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Michal Dziwulski

> > [nearmichal ]

> > >

> > > 08 December 2004 01:35

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru]

shashtamsa chart

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ::Hare Rama Krsna::

> > >

> > > Esteemed members and Jyotish Gurus,

> > >

> > > The following are details of

Mohammed Ali.

> > >

> > > Birth details are as follows: Jan.

17, 1942,

> > 18:30,

> > > 85W46, 38N15, TZ 6:00W.

> > >

> > > "In the shashtamsa, the lords

of the second and

> > > seventh houses are marakas"

> > > COVA pg. 223.

> > >

> > > In this chart Mercury and Mars take

these

> > positions.

> > >

> > > My question: Does Mercury's rasi

drsti onto Sun,

> > the

> > > sixth lord, show the

> > > defeat of his enemies?

> > >

> > > Is this the manner in which one

should read the

> > > chart? That the first lord

> > > indicates the person themselves

> > >

> > > and the sixth lord rule their

opponents? Marakas

> > > influencing either of these

> > > planets should show their defeat?

> > >

> > > When Ali won a gold medal at the

olympics in

> 1960

>

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Ah!

Steve

--- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

 

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Steve, Namaskar

>

> Unfortunately the 11th house carrot causes our

> rebirth - the idea is to

> avoid the carrot, then the 11th house doesn't

> dominate over the 12th house

> which gives us moksha.

>

> Shasthamsa was the thread - Shasta means 6. You

> mistook if for Shasty-amsa

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti visti

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Stephen K. Sufian [veda108]

> 11 December 2004 20:14

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] shashtamsa chart

>

>

>

> Hare Rama Krshna,

> OK. So we expand our conception of wealth to be

> based

> on spiritual wealth; then the 11th house carrot

> takes

> us to Narayana.

> Backtracking: how did this thread of D6, D10 arise

> from shastiamsa? I seem to have missed or

> accidentally

> deleted some email.

> Steve

> --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Hi Steve, Namaskar

> >

> > Ever seen the depiction of a donkey driven by a

> man

> > holding a carrot on a

> > string in front of it? This is what the 11th house

> > is - it's the hopes and

> > desires that we can look forward to fulfilling.

> >

> > So since the 11th house is the 2nd from the 10th

> > house, these hopes and

> > desires sustain our career and karma yoga. Problem

> > is that once we achieve

> > our desires we make new ones, and then we are only

> > getting ready for our

> > rebirth, and can risk changing/ending our karma

> yoga

> > too early. So when Sri

> > Krishna asks us to work without expectations, he

> was

> > actually highlighting

> > this aspect of Jyotish.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > http://srigaruda.com

> >

> > <visti visti

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Stephen K. Sufian [veda108]

>

> > 10 December 2004 20:07

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] shashtamsa chart

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Survey

> > Please help us to improve .

> >

>

<http://v2.decipherinc.com/survey//yah04021?list=2>

> > Take the survey

> > now!

> >

> >

> > OK. To make sure I'm understanding correctly--I've

> > always understood that the 11th house is the house

> > of

> > revolving income (routine income that comes from

> > one's

> > profession, status, actions). The 11th is the 2d

> > from

> > the 10th so it's the wealth of the 10th. Is this

> the

> > idea?

> > Hare Rama Bol,

> > Steve

> > --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

> >

> > > || Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > Dear Steve, Namaskar

> > > Actually the D-10 can be used to see how much

> > wealth

> > > your work gives you,

> > > this is then distributed to a manager, if you

> have

> > > one, and other expenses.

> > > Your own wealth and when it comes and goes is

> seen

> > > from the D2 chart - I

> > > presented this topic at the West Coast 2004 -

> > > Kasinatha Hora.

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > > visti

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Stephen K. Sufian

> [veda108]

> >

> > > 10 December 2004 16:59

> > >

> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] shashtamsa chart

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi, Visti,

> > > Why look at D-10 for wealth? Why look at L10 in

> > D10

> > > for wealth?

> > > Jai Guru Dev,

> > > Steve

> > > --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

> > >

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Michal, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > That approach is not entirely correct. The D6

> is

> > > > used to see ones overcoming

> > > > of sharipu or sins, and it would not be right

> to

> > > say

> > > > that Mr. Ali was

> > > > fighitng sin when he was fighting in the ring.

> > > That

> > > > would also mean that

> > > > each of his competitors were his enemies.

> > > >

> > > > But you are right that the 7th lord is the

> > > destroyer

> > > > of the enemy, as it is

> > > > maraka to the 6th house.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > A more acurate approach would be to analyze

> the

> > > d-10

> > > > and see Mercury there.

> > > > Mercury is debilitated ensuring great wealth

> in

> > > > career. Sun is 10th lord and

> > > > debilitated again promising great wealth. Mars

> > the

> > > > lagna lord is also

> > > > debilitated promising the same.

> > > >

> > > > Note that the planets being debilitated shows

> > that

> > > > the method using to gain

> > > > wealth was one of defaming, dethrowning or

> > scaring

>

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