To Visti-ji: Lordship based on strengths

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> > >

> > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

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> > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > 10 December 2004 16:43

> > >

> > > Re: #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions

> > >

> > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > O.K. etimologically yes, I agree. But what is

> > > significance in D-1 and D-n's?

> > >

> > > Also, why did you ask about my guru mantra ? I am a bit taken

> > aback.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > - Sourav

> > > =====================================================

> > > , "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > The word Graha comes from the word; Grahana which means to

> > eclipse

> > > or take

> > > > hold of. So this means that the Grahas can control our

minds,

> > our

> > > body and

> > > > etc. An Upagraha can however not control our mind, and

instead

> > can

> > > only

> > > > control some body-parts or organs.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

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> > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > > 10 December 2004 16:29

> > > >

> > > > Re: #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three

questions

> > > >

> > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your input. Yes I am doing guru mantra. why you

ask?

> > > >

> > > > Significance of Upagraha in different houses is given in an

> > > article.

> > > > Like what does Gulika mean in 1H, 2H, etc. Upagraha is a

> > satellite

> > > > of a graha. A Graha has a primary significance. But it also

> can

> > > have

> > > > a secondary or a tertiary significance. Upagraha signifies

> that.

> > > > That is my understanding. Kindly comment.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > - Sourav

> > > >

> > > > =====================================================

> > > >

> > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> <visti@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > Comments below.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > >

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> > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > > > 10 December 2004 14:44

> > > > >

> > > > > #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks a lot. However, I request some clarifications.

> > > > >

> > > > > (1) I am a bit led off by the term "siddhamsa". I thought

it

> > > > > means "siddha" meaning achievement or success in general.

> You

> > > are

> > > > > saying that this is only for educational sphere? Kindly

> > comment.

> > > > >

> > > > > [Visti] When you attain siddhi of something, you have

> attained

> > > full

> > > > > knowledge of that subject. Hence siddhamsa will show all

the

> > > > siddhis you

> > > > > have in formal and informal spheres of learning. The D-10

is

> > the

> > > > Karma-amsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also, I thought 6-th house is a house of obstacles. Is its

> > > > > significance not the same in D-10? So work doesn't involve

> > > > > overcoming a lot of resistance?

> > > > >

> > > > > [Visti] In the dasamsa the 6th house is the house of work

> and

> > > > service. This

> > > > > service is necessary for one to later express ones

> > > qualifications

> > > > indicated

> > > > > by the 10th house, and finally retire with a big bundle of

> > money

> > > > indicated

> > > > > by the 2nd house.

> > > > >

> > > > > (2) My AK is in 3H (with Ke,Ve,A7,UL) in Aries lorded by

> Mars,

> > > > owned

> > > > > of 10-th House)

> > > > >

> > > > > [Visti] So?

> > > > >

> > > > > (3) My question about AK and DK was that from your

charting

> > > > > experiences, have you seen for a husband & wife charts,

that

> > DK

> > > > > graha in husband's chart is same as AK graha in wife's

> chart?

> > Is

> > > > it

> > > > > commonly like this? I know DK also means partners.

> > > > >

> > > > > [Visti] No it is not common in my experience.

> > > > >

> > > > > (4) New Question: What are the role of Upagrahas in D-n

> charts?

> > > > >

> > > > > [Visti] First understand their role in the d1 chart. What

is

> > the

> > > > difference

> > > > > between a Graha and an Upagraha?

> > > > >

> > > > > A separate question; You are not doing a Guru mantra are

you?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your time,

> > > > >

> > > > > - Sourav

> > > > >

> > =================================================================

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > <visti@s...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sourav,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Comments below.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://srigaruda.com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > > > > 10 December 2004 01:34

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (1) In my D-10, if I am looking at the 2-6-10 houses, I

> find

> > > an

> > > > > > exalted Jupiter and a debilitated Ma, both retrograde,

are

> > > > sitting

> > > > > > in the 6-th house. It is interesting because Ju owns 2H

> > > (Pisces)

> > > > > and

> > > > > > Ma owns 10H (Scorpio). What does this mean? Does it mean

> my

> > > work

> > > > > > will be done by overcoming a lot of resistance (10-th

Lord

> > in

> > > 6H)

> > > > I

> > > > > > will be provided with a lot of resources (2nd lord in

6H) ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] 10th house shows the work you are qualified to

do,

> > if

> > > > the

> > > > > 10th lord

> > > > > > is in the 6th house, you actually do the work you were

> > trained

> > > > to

> > > > > do. In

> > > > > > many cases people are educated as engineers and end up

> being

> > > > > salesmen or

> > > > > > managers of some sort – so what you are qualified to do

> and

> > > what

> > > > > you are

> > > > > > doing need not be the same.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If this is true (a) what is the nature of work (b) How

do

> we

> > > see

> > > > > > success/failure in this work/career (in D-10 or

Siddhamsa)?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] The nature of the work is indicated by the

planets

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > 6th

> > > > > > initially, then the 10th and lastly the 2nd. Planets in

> the

> > > 6th

> > > > > will

> > > > > > dominate initially, then the lord of 6th, and then the

> > aspects

> > > > on

> > > > > 6th –

> > > > > > after which we move to the 10th house and analyze in the

> > same

> > > > way.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mars with Jupiter indicates working with a lot of money

> and

> > > > > logistics is

> > > > > > indicated. D-10 alone is used to analyze the work we do,

> > > whilst

> > > > the

> > > > > > siddhamsa (d-24) is seen for education and learning.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (2) What is the significance of AK in D-10 and other D-

n ?

> > AK

> > > > > > signifies punishments/setbacks that are supposed to

> > enlighten

> > > us.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] The atmakäraka in d10 indicates that work which

> will

> > > > bring

> > > > > you

> > > > > > closer to God. If AK is in 6th house in D-10 then the

> nature

> > > of

> > > > > the work can

> > > > > > have strong spiritual overtones, or bring you closer to

> God –

> >

> > > > > provided that

> > > > > > the deity of the dasamsa (the 10 dikpalas) are also

> > spiritual

> > > in

> > > > > nature.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (3) This question is out of curiosity: what does DK

> signify?

> > > Is

> > > > > the

> > > > > > DK planet of husband the AK of the wife? what is your

> > > experience?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] The AK is yourself, and the DK is your

> > > spouses/partners.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your time,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Sourav

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

> Ashram.

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> > > said

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December 12, 2004

Dear Sourav, Namaskar

Here is what I can share about lordship from my little knowledge.

Scorpio is ruled by both Mars and Ketu and similarly Aquarius is

ruled by Rahu and Saturn.

There is a standard way of determining the stronger co-lord which is

then used as the house lord.

Regards,

Sameer

, "feynman_8" <feynman_8>

wrote:

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> (1) you said Ra is Lord of A5 (Aquarius), because Ra is is a better

> position than Sa? Does Lord of 9th in 4-th (kendra)constitute a

> Rajayoga ? Do we consider such lordship only for some specific

> purpose and not in general for like determining yogas?

>

> (2) If so, because Ke is in a better porition than Ma so Ke lords

my

> 6H (Sc) and 11H (Aries) ? Please correct me. Thanks,

>

> - Sourav

>

=====================================================================

>

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Jupiter is in Lagna ensuring that through austerities Vach-

> Siddhi

> > will come.

> > > Rähu and Ketu rule mathematics and Ganita which are important

> for

> > Jyotish,

> > > hence when analyzing an astrologers chart, these two must be

> > checked. Ketu

> > > is auspiciously placed in his moolatrikona sign in the 10th

> house,

> > showing

> > > strong sense of spirituality and spiritual direction in life.

> > >

> > > Rähu is also well placed in his moolatrikona sign, however Rähu

> is

> > in 4th

> > > house indicating kapata yoga, which will cause you to be

cheated

> > by many

> > > people in your attempts to learn and use astrology – you should

> > learn the

> > > Prasna Shastra well to be able to spot this – Since Rähu is

> joined

> > A7 it

> > > will be business partners, or people seeking your companionship

> > who will try

> > > to cheat you. Since the A7 also shows the clients reasons for

> > seeing you,

> > > most of the clients will either be seeking to cheat or scheme

> > against others

> > > or have already been cheated by others. Rähu is the natural

> > badhakesh, so

> > > many Bädhak related problems will be seen in the charts of your

> > clients.

> > >

> > > Now these are normally not severe problems, but Rähu is also

> lord

> > of the A5

> > > showing your learning of Jyotisha and these clients can make

you

> > doubt or

> > > loose faith in your learning – Jupiters aspect on Rähu and A5

> will

> > however

> > > help you regain your faith, and continue learning Jyotish.

> > >

> > > One thing I must bring up – jyotish or non-jyotish. The 2nd

from

> > the A5

> > > shows the predictions you make, and since Ketu is there, you

can

> > tend to

> > > give negative predictions quite easily and sometimes without

> > thinking. This

> > > is not the way to use your Vach – Siddhi, and you must practice

> > > throughfullness due to the strength of your austerities.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > >

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> > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > 10 December 2004 17:31

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: Personal Question

> > >

> > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > what is the best and most authoritative source

> > (classical

> > > source) for Upagrahas?

> > >

> > > No, I am having a diksha-mantra but I am also passing through a

> > > tremendous change in spiritual outlook. I am running Me

> antardasa

> > > and Me is my AK/LL/Navamsa-LL. So that is indicated that I will

> be

> > > going through such a change. I can't talk about it any more

> though

> > I

> > > know that you have seen in in my chart.

> > >

> > > I want to ask you a question. I am thinking of learning Jyotish

> > > properly, not in an offhand way. Although, (it may be

> apparently)

> > > Jyotish talks too much about our relative existance, I

> understand

> > > that unless and until a firm understanding of this relativeness

> of

> > > life in under grasp, one cannot transcend it. Having said that

I

> > > also want to say that learning Jyotish is not going to be my

> > primary

> > > objective in life - it is to take care of all my present and

> > future

> > > responsibilities and realize my Ishtam. But I realize Jyotish

> will

> > > help.

> > >

> > > (Are there any indication if learning Jyotish will be

> auspicious /

> > > inauspicious ? please see my chart)

> > >

> > > I believe in a strong traditional guru-sishya parampara and I

> dont

> > > think the real light will come only through my own intelligence

> > and

> > > intellectuality. I want to ask if there is a possibility of

> being

> > in

> > > touch with an upaguru/acharya in SJC, one who can accept me as

a

> > > distant pupil and who will be able to provide me with guidance.

> > What

> > > is SJC's stand on such a request.

> > >

> > > You have been a big help is many little ways. Thanks.

> > >

> > > - Sourav

> > > =======================================================

> > >

> > > , "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > The next division of the Upagrahas is in; Aprakasha vs

> Upagraha.

> > > >

> > > > Here; Dhuma, Indra Chaapa, Parivesha, Vyatipata and Upaketu

> are

> > > Aprakasha

> > > > Grahas, and can cause direct physical damage to the body or

> > other

> > > peoples

> > > > bodies.

> > > >

> > > > The other upagrahas can cause loss of memory, or lack of

> > > knowledge, and in

> > > > few cases avert evil, like Yamaghantaka.

> > > >

> > > > In d9 they say that: Mandi placed in trines to Navamsa lagna

> > > causes one to

> > > > be without knowledge of ones birthtime.

> > > >

> > > > The reason I asked about your Mantra is because of the

ammount

> > of

> > > questions

> > > > you posed – I use vedic-numerology to see what influences the

> > > person is

> > > > under from their style of writing or the number of questions

> > they

> > > ask.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

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> > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > > 10 December 2004 16:43

> > > >

> > > > Re: #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three

questions

> > > >

> > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > O.K. etimologically yes, I agree. But what is

> > > > significance in D-1 and D-n's?

> > > >

> > > > Also, why did you ask about my guru mantra ? I am a bit taken

> > > aback.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > - Sourav

> > > > =====================================================

> > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> <visti@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > The word Graha comes from the word; Grahana which means to

> > > eclipse

> > > > or take

> > > > > hold of. So this means that the Grahas can control our

> minds,

> > > our

> > > > body and

> > > > > etc. An Upagraha can however not control our mind, and

> instead

> > > can

> > > > only

> > > > > control some body-parts or organs.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

> > > > >

> > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > > > 10 December 2004 16:29

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three

> questions

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your input. Yes I am doing guru mantra. why you

> ask?

> > > > >

> > > > > Significance of Upagraha in different houses is given in an

> > > > article.

> > > > > Like what does Gulika mean in 1H, 2H, etc. Upagraha is a

> > > satellite

> > > > > of a graha. A Graha has a primary significance. But it also

> > can

> > > > have

> > > > > a secondary or a tertiary significance. Upagraha signifies

> > that.

> > > > > That is my understanding. Kindly comment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > - Sourav

> > > > >

> > > > > =====================================================

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > <visti@s...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Comments below.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://srigaruda.com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > > > > 10 December 2004 14:44

> > > > > >

> > > > > > #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three

questions

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks a lot. However, I request some clarifications.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (1) I am a bit led off by the term "siddhamsa". I thought

> it

> > > > > > means "siddha" meaning achievement or success in general.

> > You

> > > > are

> > > > > > saying that this is only for educational sphere? Kindly

> > > comment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] When you attain siddhi of something, you have

> > attained

> > > > full

> > > > > > knowledge of that subject. Hence siddhamsa will show all

> the

> > > > > siddhis you

> > > > > > have in formal and informal spheres of learning. The D-10

> is

> > > the

> > > > > Karma-amsa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also, I thought 6-th house is a house of obstacles. Is

its

> > > > > > significance not the same in D-10? So work doesn't

involve

> > > > > > overcoming a lot of resistance?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] In the dasamsa the 6th house is the house of work

> > and

> > > > > service. This

> > > > > > service is necessary for one to later express ones

> > > > qualifications

> > > > > indicated

> > > > > > by the 10th house, and finally retire with a big bundle

of

> > > money

> > > > > indicated

> > > > > > by the 2nd house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (2) My AK is in 3H (with Ke,Ve,A7,UL) in Aries lorded by

> > Mars,

> > > > > owned

> > > > > > of 10-th House)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] So?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (3) My question about AK and DK was that from your

> charting

> > > > > > experiences, have you seen for a husband & wife charts,

> that

> > > DK

> > > > > > graha in husband's chart is same as AK graha in wife's

> > chart?

> > > Is

> > > > > it

> > > > > > commonly like this? I know DK also means partners.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] No it is not common in my experience.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (4) New Question: What are the role of Upagrahas in D-n

> > charts?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] First understand their role in the d1 chart. What

> is

> > > the

> > > > > difference

> > > > > > between a Graha and an Upagraha?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A separate question; You are not doing a Guru mantra are

> you?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your time,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Sourav

> > > > > >

> > >

=================================================================

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > > <visti@s...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sourav,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Comments below.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > http://srigaruda.com

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > > > > > 10 December 2004 01:34

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (1) In my D-10, if I am looking at the 2-6-10 houses, I

> > find

> > > > an

> > > > > > > exalted Jupiter and a debilitated Ma, both retrograde,

> are

> > > > > sitting

> > > > > > > in the 6-th house. It is interesting because Ju owns 2H

> > > > (Pisces)

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > Ma owns 10H (Scorpio). What does this mean? Does it

mean

> > my

> > > > work

> > > > > > > will be done by overcoming a lot of resistance (10-th

> Lord

> > > in

> > > > 6H)

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > will be provided with a lot of resources (2nd lord in

> 6H) ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Visti] 10th house shows the work you are qualified to

> do,

> > > if

> > > > > the

> > > > > > 10th lord

> > > > > > > is in the 6th house, you actually do the work you were

> > > trained

> > > > > to

> > > > > > do. In

> > > > > > > many cases people are educated as engineers and end up

> > being

> > > > > > salesmen or

> > > > > > > managers of some sort – so what you are qualified to do

> > and

> > > > what

> > > > > > you are

> > > > > > > doing need not be the same.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If this is true (a) what is the nature of work (b) How

> do

> > we

> > > > see

> > > > > > > success/failure in this work/career (in D-10 or

> Siddhamsa)?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Visti] The nature of the work is indicated by the

> planets

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > initially, then the 10th and lastly the 2nd. Planets in

> > the

> > > > 6th

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > dominate initially, then the lord of 6th, and then the

> > > aspects

> > > > > on

> > > > > > 6th –

> > > > > > > after which we move to the 10th house and analyze in

the

> > > same

> > > > > way.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars with Jupiter indicates working with a lot of money

> > and

> > > > > > logistics is

> > > > > > > indicated. D-10 alone is used to analyze the work we

do,

> > > > whilst

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > siddhamsa (d-24) is seen for education and learning.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (2) What is the significance of AK in D-10 and other D-

> n ?

> > > AK

> > > > > > > signifies punishments/setbacks that are supposed to

> > > enlighten

> > > > us.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Visti] The atmakäraka in d10 indicates that work which

> > will

> > > > > bring

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > closer to God. If AK is in 6th house in D-10 then the

> > nature

> > > > of

> > > > > > the work can

> > > > > > > have strong spiritual overtones, or bring you closer to

> > God –

> > >

> > > > > > provided that

> > > > > > > the deity of the dasamsa (the 10 dikpalas) are also

> > > spiritual

> > > > in

> > > > > > nature.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (3) This question is out of curiosity: what does DK

> > signify?

> > > > Is

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > DK planet of husband the AK of the wife? what is your

> > > > experience?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Visti] The AK is yourself, and the DK is your

> > > > spouses/partners.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for your time,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - Sourav

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav, Namaskar

Always use both lords – never exclude

one. Point is that whilst one may dominate most of the time, the other WILL

come into play sometimes in life. Which one is dominant is decided through

strength rules. The less dominant one will come into being during certain dasas.

Best wishes,

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[Om Krishna Guru] To

Visti-ji: Lordship based on strengths

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Dear Vistiji,

(1) you said Ra is Lord of A5 (Aquarius), because

Ra is is a better

position than Sa? Does Lord of 9th in 4-th

(kendra)constitute a

Rajayoga ? Do we consider such lordship only for

some specific

purpose and not in general for like determining

yogas?

(2) If so, because Ke is in a better porition than

Ma so Ke lords my

6H (Sc) and 11H (Aries) ? Please correct me.

Thanks,

- Sourav

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>

> ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> >

> > Jupiter is in Lagna ensuring that

through austerities Vach-

Siddhi

> will come.

> > Rähu and Ketu rule mathematics and

Ganita which are important

for

> Jyotish,

> > hence when analyzing an astrologers

chart, these two must be

> checked. Ketu

> > is auspiciously placed in his

moolatrikona sign in the 10th

house,

> showing

> > strong sense of spirituality and

spiritual direction in life.

> >

> > Rähu is also well placed in his

moolatrikona sign, however Rähu

is

> in 4th

> > house indicating kapata yoga, which will

cause you to be cheated

> by many

> > people in your attempts to learn and use

astrology – you should

> learn the

> > Prasna Shastra well to be able to spot

this – Since Rähu is

joined

> A7 it

> > will be business partners, or people seeking

your companionship

> who will try

> > to cheat you. Since the A7 also shows

the clients reasons for

> seeing you,

> > most of the clients will either be

seeking to cheat or scheme

> against others

> > or have already been cheated by others.

Rähu is the natural

> badhakesh, so

> > many Bädhak related problems will be

seen in the charts of your

> clients.

> >

> > Now these are normally not severe

problems, but Rähu is also

lord

> of the A5

> > showing your learning of Jyotisha and

these clients can make you

> doubt or

> > loose faith in your learning –

Jupiters aspect on Rähu and A5

will

> however

> > help you regain your faith, and continue

learning Jyotish.

> >

> > One thing I must bring up –

jyotish or non-jyotish. The 2nd from

> the A5

> > shows the predictions you make, and

since Ketu is there, you can

> tend to

> > give negative predictions quite easily

and sometimes without

> thinking. This

> > is not the way to use your Vach –

Siddhi, and you must practice

> > throughfullness due to the strength of

your austerities.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

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> > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > 10 December 2004 17:31

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji:

Personal Question

> >

> > Dear Visti-ji,

>

> what is the

best and most authoritative source

> (classical

> > source) for Upagrahas?

> >

> > No, I am having a diksha-mantra but I am

also passing through a

> > tremendous change in spiritual outlook.

I am running Me

antardasa

> > and Me is my AK/LL/Navamsa-LL. So that

is indicated that I will

be

> > going through such a change. I can't

talk about it any more

though

> I

> > know that you have seen in in my chart.

> >

> > I want to ask you a question. I am

thinking of learning Jyotish

> > properly, not in an offhand way.

Although, (it may be

apparently)

> > Jyotish talks too much about our

relative existance, I

understand

> > that unless and until a firm

understanding of this relativeness

of

> > life in under grasp, one cannot

transcend it. Having said that I

> > also want to say that learning Jyotish

is not going to be my

> primary

> > objective in life - it is to take care

of all my present and

> future

> > responsibilities and realize my Ishtam.

But I realize Jyotish

will

> > help.

> >

> > (Are there any indication if learning

Jyotish will be

auspicious /

> > inauspicious ? please see my chart)

> >

> > I believe in a strong traditional guru-sishya

parampara and I

dont

> > think the real light will come only

through my own intelligence

> and

> > intellectuality. I want to ask if there

is a possibility of

being

> in

> > touch with an upaguru/acharya in SJC,

one who can accept me as a

> > distant pupil and who will be able to

provide me with guidance.

> What

> > is SJC's stand on such a request.

> >

> > You have been a big help is many little

ways. Thanks.

> >

> > - Sourav

> >

=======================================================

> >

> > ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > >

> > > The next division of the Upagrahas

is in; Aprakasha vs

Upagraha.

> > >

> > > Here; Dhuma, Indra Chaapa,

Parivesha, Vyatipata and Upaketu

are

> > Aprakasha

> > > Grahas, and can cause direct

physical damage to the body or

> other

> > peoples

> > > bodies.

> > >

> > > The other upagrahas can cause loss

of memory, or lack of

> > knowledge, and in

> > > few cases avert evil, like

Yamaghantaka.

> > >

> > > In d9 they say that: Mandi placed

in trines to Navamsa lagna

> > causes one to

> > > be without knowledge of ones

birthtime.

> > >

> > > The reason I asked about your

Mantra is because of the ammount

> of

> > questions

> > > you posed – I use

vedic-numerology to see what influences the

> > person is

> > > under from their style of writing

or the number of questions

> they

> > ask.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

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> > >

> > > <visti@s...>

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> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > feynman_8

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> > > 10 December 2004 16:43

> > >

> > > Re: #2: [Om Krishna Guru]

To Visti-ji: three questions

> > >

> > > Dear Visti-ji,

> >

>

O.K. etimologically yes, I agree. But what is

> > > significance in D-1 and D-n's?

> > >

> > > Also, why did you ask about my guru

mantra ? I am a bit taken

> > aback.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > - Sourav

> > >

=====================================================

> > > --- In

, "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > The word Graha comes from the

word; Grahana which means to

> > eclipse

> > > or take

> > > > hold of. So this means that

the Grahas can control our

minds,

> > our

> > > body and

> > > > etc. An Upagraha can however

not control our mind, and

instead

> > can

> > > only

> > > > control some body-parts or

organs.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

> > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > feynman_8

[feynman_8]

> > > > 10 December 2004 16:29

> > > > To:

> > > > Re: #2: [Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti-ji: three

questions

> > > >

> > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > >

>

> > > > Thanks for your input. Yes I

am doing guru mantra. why you

ask?

> > > >

> > > > Significance of Upagraha in

different houses is given in an

> > > article.

> > > > Like what does Gulika mean in

1H, 2H, etc. Upagraha is a

> > satellite

> > > > of a graha. A Graha has a

primary significance. But it also

> can

> > > have

> > > > a secondary or a tertiary

significance. Upagraha signifies

> that.

> > > > That is my understanding.

Kindly comment.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > - Sourav

> > > >

=====================================================

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, "Visti Larsen"

> <visti@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > Comments below.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > > http://srigaruda.com

> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > feynman_8

[feynman_8]

> > > > > 10 December 2004

14:44

> > > > > To:

> > > > > #2: [Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks a lot. However, I

request some clarifications.

> > > >

>

> > > > > (1) I am a bit led off by

the term "siddhamsa". I thought

it

> > > > > means "siddha"

meaning achievement or success in general.

> You

> > > are

> > > > > saying that this is only

for educational sphere? Kindly

> > comment.

> > > > >

> > > > > [Visti] When you attain

siddhi of something, you have

> attained

> > > full

> > > > > knowledge of that

subject. Hence siddhamsa will show all

the

> > > > siddhis you

> > > > > have in formal and

informal spheres of learning. The D-10

is

> > the

> > > > Karma-amsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also, I thought 6-th

house is a house of obstacles. Is its

> > > > > significance not the same

in D-10? So work doesn't involve

> > > > > overcoming a lot of

resistance?

> > > > >

> > > > > [Visti] In the dasamsa

the 6th house is the house of work

> and

> > > > service. This

> > > > > service is necessary for

one to later express ones

> > > qualifications

> > > > indicated

> > > > > by the 10th house, and

finally retire with a big bundle of

> > money

> > > > indicated

> > > > > by the 2nd house.

> > > > >

> > > > > (2) My AK is in 3H (with

Ke,Ve,A7,UL) in Aries lorded by

> Mars,

> > > > owned

> > > > > of 10-th House)

> > > > >

> > > > > [Visti] So?

> > > > >

> > > > > (3) My question about AK

and DK was that from your

charting

> > > > > experiences, have you

seen for a husband & wife charts,

that

> > DK

> > > > > graha in husband's chart

is same as AK graha in wife's

> chart?

> > Is

> > > > it

> > > > > commonly like this? I

know DK also means partners.

> > > > >

> > > > > [Visti] No it is not

common in my experience.

> > > > >

> > > > > (4) New Question: What

are the role of Upagrahas in D-n

> charts?

> > > > >

> > > > > [Visti] First understand

their role in the d1 chart. What

is

> > the

> > > > difference

> > > > > between a Graha and an

Upagraha?

> > > > >

> > > > > A separate question; You

are not doing a Guru mantra are

you?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your time,

> > > > >

> > > > > - Sourav

> > > > >

> >

=================================================================

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, "Visti Larsen"

> > <visti@s...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sourav,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Comments below.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://srigaruda.com

> > > > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > > > >

_____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > feynman_8

[feynman_8]

> > > > > > 10 December

2004 01:34

> > > > > > To:

> > > > > > [Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > (1) In my D-10, if I

am looking at the 2-6-10 houses, I

> find

> > > an

> > > > > > exalted Jupiter and

a debilitated Ma, both retrograde,

are

> > > > sitting

> > > > > > in the 6-th house.

It is interesting because Ju owns 2H

> > > (Pisces)

> > > > > and

> > > > > > Ma owns 10H

(Scorpio). What does this mean? Does it mean

> my

> > > work

> > > > > > will be done by

overcoming a lot of resistance (10-th

Lord

> > in

> > > 6H)

> > > > I

> > > > > > will be provided

with a lot of resources (2nd lord in

6H) ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] 10th house

shows the work you are qualified to

do,

> > if

> > > > the

> > > > > 10th lord

> > > > > > is in the 6th house,

you actually do the work you were

> > trained

> > > > to

> > > > > do. In

> > > > > > many cases people

are educated as engineers and end up

> being

> > > > > salesmen or

> > > > > > managers of some

sort – so what you are qualified to do

> and

> > > what

> > > > > you are

> > > > > > doing need not be

the same.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If this is true (a)

what is the nature of work (b) How

do

> we

> > > see

> > > > > > success/failure in

this work/career (in D-10 or

Siddhamsa)?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] The nature

of the work is indicated by the

planets

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > 6th

> > > > > > initially, then the

10th and lastly the 2nd. Planets in

> the

> > > 6th

> > > > > will

> > > > > > dominate initially,

then the lord of 6th, and then the

> > aspects

> > > > on

> > > > > 6th –

> > > > > > after which we move

to the 10th house and analyze in the

> > same

> > > > way.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mars with Jupiter

indicates working with a lot of money

> and

> > > > > logistics is

> > > > > > indicated. D-10

alone is used to analyze the work we do,

> > > whilst

> > > > the

> > > > > > siddhamsa (d-24) is

seen for education and learning.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (2) What is the

significance of AK in D-10 and other D-

n ?

> > AK

> > > > > > signifies

punishments/setbacks that are supposed to

> > enlighten

> > > us.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] The

atmakäraka in d10 indicates that work which

> will

> > > > bring

> > > > > you

> > > > > > closer to God. If AK

is in 6th house in D-10 then the

> nature

> > > of

> > > > > the work can

> > > > > > have strong

spiritual overtones, or bring you closer to

> God –

> >

> > > > > provided that

> > > > > > the deity of the

dasamsa (the 10 dikpalas) are also

> > spiritual

> > > in

> > > > > nature.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (3) This question is

out of curiosity: what does DK

> signify?

> > > Is

> > > > > the

> > > > > > DK planet of husband

the AK of the wife? what is your

> > > experience?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] The AK is

yourself, and the DK is your

> > > spouses/partners.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your

time,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Sourav

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

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> Ashram.

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thanks for help.

- Sourav

============================================================

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>

> Always use both lords – never exclude one. Point is that whilst

one may

> dominate most of the time, the other WILL come into play sometimes

in life.

> Which one is dominant is decided through strength rules. The less

dominant

> one will come into being during certain dasas.

>

> Best wishes,

>

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>

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> feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> 12 December 2004 18:02

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: Lordship based on strengths

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> (1) you said Ra is Lord of A5 (Aquarius), because Ra is is a

better

> position than Sa? Does Lord of 9th in 4-th (kendra)constitute a

> Rajayoga ? Do we consider such lordship only for some specific

> purpose and not in general for like determining yogas?

>

> (2) If so, because Ke is in a better porition than Ma so Ke lords

my

> 6H (Sc) and 11H (Aries) ? Please correct me. Thanks,

>

> - Sourav

>

=====================================================================

>

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Jupiter is in Lagna ensuring that through austerities Vach-

> Siddhi

> > will come.

> > > Rähu and Ketu rule mathematics and Ganita which are important

> for

> > Jyotish,

> > > hence when analyzing an astrologers chart, these two must be

> > checked. Ketu

> > > is auspiciously placed in his moolatrikona sign in the 10th

> house,

> > showing

> > > strong sense of spirituality and spiritual direction in life.

> > >

> > > Rähu is also well placed in his moolatrikona sign, however

Rähu

> is

> > in 4th

> > > house indicating kapata yoga, which will cause you to be

cheated

> > by many

> > > people in your attempts to learn and use astrology – you

should

> > learn the

> > > Prasna Shastra well to be able to spot this – Since Rähu is

> joined

> > A7 it

> > > will be business partners, or people seeking your

companionship

> > who will try

> > > to cheat you. Since the A7 also shows the clients reasons for

> > seeing you,

> > > most of the clients will either be seeking to cheat or scheme

> > against others

> > > or have already been cheated by others. Rähu is the natural

> > badhakesh, so

> > > many Bädhak related problems will be seen in the charts of

your

> > clients.

> > >

> > > Now these are normally not severe problems, but Rähu is also

> lord

> > of the A5

> > > showing your learning of Jyotisha and these clients can make

you

> > doubt or

> > > loose faith in your learning – Jupiters aspect on Rähu and A5

> will

> > however

> > > help you regain your faith, and continue learning Jyotish.

> > >

> > > One thing I must bring up – jyotish or non-jyotish. The 2nd

from

> > the A5

> > > shows the predictions you make, and since Ketu is there, you

can

> > tend to

> > > give negative predictions quite easily and sometimes without

> > thinking. This

> > > is not the way to use your Vach – Siddhi, and you must practice

> > > throughfullness due to the strength of your austerities.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > >

> > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > 10 December 2004 17:31

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: Personal Question

> > >

> > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > what is the best and most authoritative source

> > (classical

> > > source) for Upagrahas?

> > >

> > > No, I am having a diksha-mantra but I am also passing through

a

> > > tremendous change in spiritual outlook. I am running Me

> antardasa

> > > and Me is my AK/LL/Navamsa-LL. So that is indicated that I

will

> be

> > > going through such a change. I can't talk about it any more

> though

> > I

> > > know that you have seen in in my chart.

> > >

> > > I want to ask you a question. I am thinking of learning

Jyotish

> > > properly, not in an offhand way. Although, (it may be

> apparently)

> > > Jyotish talks too much about our relative existance, I

> understand

> > > that unless and until a firm understanding of this

relativeness

> of

> > > life in under grasp, one cannot transcend it. Having said that

I

> > > also want to say that learning Jyotish is not going to be my

> > primary

> > > objective in life - it is to take care of all my present and

> > future

> > > responsibilities and realize my Ishtam. But I realize Jyotish

> will

> > > help.

> > >

> > > (Are there any indication if learning Jyotish will be

> auspicious /

> > > inauspicious ? please see my chart)

> > >

> > > I believe in a strong traditional guru-sishya parampara and I

> dont

> > > think the real light will come only through my own

intelligence

> > and

> > > intellectuality. I want to ask if there is a possibility of

> being

> > in

> > > touch with an upaguru/acharya in SJC, one who can accept me as

a

> > > distant pupil and who will be able to provide me with

guidance.

> > What

> > > is SJC's stand on such a request.

> > >

> > > You have been a big help is many little ways. Thanks.

> > >

> > > - Sourav

> > > =======================================================

> > >

> > > , "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > The next division of the Upagrahas is in; Aprakasha vs

> Upagraha.

> > > >

> > > > Here; Dhuma, Indra Chaapa, Parivesha, Vyatipata and Upaketu

> are

> > > Aprakasha

> > > > Grahas, and can cause direct physical damage to the body or

> > other

> > > peoples

> > > > bodies.

> > > >

> > > > The other upagrahas can cause loss of memory, or lack of

> > > knowledge, and in

> > > > few cases avert evil, like Yamaghantaka.

> > > >

> > > > In d9 they say that: Mandi placed in trines to Navamsa lagna

> > > causes one to

> > > > be without knowledge of ones birthtime.

> > > >

> > > > The reason I asked about your Mantra is because of the

ammount

> > of

> > > questions

> > > > you posed – I use vedic-numerology to see what influences

the

> > > person is

> > > > under from their style of writing or the number of questions

> > they

> > > ask.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

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> > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > > 10 December 2004 16:43

> > > >

> > > > Re: #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three

questions

> > > >

> > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > O.K. etimologically yes, I agree. But what is

> > > > significance in D-1 and D-n's?

> > > >

> > > > Also, why did you ask about my guru mantra ? I am a bit

taken

> > > aback.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > - Sourav

> > > > =====================================================

> > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> <visti@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > The word Graha comes from the word; Grahana which means to

> > > eclipse

> > > > or take

> > > > > hold of. So this means that the Grahas can control our

> minds,

> > > our

> > > > body and

> > > > > etc. An Upagraha can however not control our mind, and

> instead

> > > can

> > > > only

> > > > > control some body-parts or organs.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

> > > > >

> > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > > > 10 December 2004 16:29

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three

> questions

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your input. Yes I am doing guru mantra. why you

> ask?

> > > > >

> > > > > Significance of Upagraha in different houses is given in

an

> > > > article.

> > > > > Like what does Gulika mean in 1H, 2H, etc. Upagraha is a

> > > satellite

> > > > > of a graha. A Graha has a primary significance. But it

also

> > can

> > > > have

> > > > > a secondary or a tertiary significance. Upagraha signifies

> > that.

> > > > > That is my understanding. Kindly comment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > - Sourav

> > > > >

> > > > > =====================================================

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > <visti@s...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Comments below.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://srigaruda.com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > > > > 10 December 2004 14:44

> > > > > >

> > > > > > #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three

questions

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks a lot. However, I request some clarifications.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (1) I am a bit led off by the term "siddhamsa". I

thought

> it

> > > > > > means "siddha" meaning achievement or success in

general.

> > You

> > > > are

> > > > > > saying that this is only for educational sphere? Kindly

> > > comment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] When you attain siddhi of something, you have

> > attained

> > > > full

> > > > > > knowledge of that subject. Hence siddhamsa will show all

> the

> > > > > siddhis you

> > > > > > have in formal and informal spheres of learning. The D-

10

> is

> > > the

> > > > > Karma-amsa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also, I thought 6-th house is a house of obstacles. Is

its

> > > > > > significance not the same in D-10? So work doesn't

involve

> > > > > > overcoming a lot of resistance?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] In the dasamsa the 6th house is the house of

work

> > and

> > > > > service. This

> > > > > > service is necessary for one to later express ones

> > > > qualifications

> > > > > indicated

> > > > > > by the 10th house, and finally retire with a big bundle

of

> > > money

> > > > > indicated

> > > > > > by the 2nd house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (2) My AK is in 3H (with Ke,Ve,A7,UL) in Aries lorded by

> > Mars,

> > > > > owned

> > > > > > of 10-th House)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] So?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (3) My question about AK and DK was that from your

> charting

> > > > > > experiences, have you seen for a husband & wife charts,

> that

> > > DK

> > > > > > graha in husband's chart is same as AK graha in wife's

> > chart?

> > > Is

> > > > > it

> > > > > > commonly like this? I know DK also means partners.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] No it is not common in my experience.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (4) New Question: What are the role of Upagrahas in D-n

> > charts?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] First understand their role in the d1 chart.

What

> is

> > > the

> > > > > difference

> > > > > > between a Graha and an Upagraha?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A separate question; You are not doing a Guru mantra are

> you?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your time,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Sourav

> > > > > >

> > >

=================================================================

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > > <visti@s...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sourav,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Comments below.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > http://srigaruda.com

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > > > > > 10 December 2004 01:34

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (1) In my D-10, if I am looking at the 2-6-10 houses,

I

> > find

> > > > an

> > > > > > > exalted Jupiter and a debilitated Ma, both retrograde,

> are

> > > > > sitting

> > > > > > > in the 6-th house. It is interesting because Ju owns

2H

> > > > (Pisces)

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > Ma owns 10H (Scorpio). What does this mean? Does it

mean

> > my

> > > > work

> > > > > > > will be done by overcoming a lot of resistance (10-th

> Lord

> > > in

> > > > 6H)

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > will be provided with a lot of resources (2nd lord in

> 6H) ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Visti] 10th house shows the work you are qualified to

> do,

> > > if

> > > > > the

> > > > > > 10th lord

> > > > > > > is in the 6th house, you actually do the work you were

> > > trained

> > > > > to

> > > > > > do. In

> > > > > > > many cases people are educated as engineers and end up

> > being

> > > > > > salesmen or

> > > > > > > managers of some sort – so what you are qualified to

do

> > and

> > > > what

> > > > > > you are

> > > > > > > doing need not be the same.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If this is true (a) what is the nature of work (b) How

> do

> > we

> > > > see

> > > > > > > success/failure in this work/career (in D-10 or

> Siddhamsa)?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Visti] The nature of the work is indicated by the

> planets

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > initially, then the 10th and lastly the 2nd. Planets

in

> > the

> > > > 6th

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > dominate initially, then the lord of 6th, and then the

> > > aspects

> > > > > on

> > > > > > 6th –

> > > > > > > after which we move to the 10th house and analyze in

the

> > > same

> > > > > way.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars with Jupiter indicates working with a lot of

money

> > and

> > > > > > logistics is

> > > > > > > indicated. D-10 alone is used to analyze the work we

do,

> > > > whilst

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > siddhamsa (d-24) is seen for education and learning.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (2) What is the significance of AK in D-10 and other D-

> n ?

> > > AK

> > > > > > > signifies punishments/setbacks that are supposed to

> > > enlighten

> > > > us.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Visti] The atmakäraka in d10 indicates that work

which

> > will

> > > > > bring

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > closer to God. If AK is in 6th house in D-10 then the

> > nature

> > > > of

> > > > > > the work can

> > > > > > > have strong spiritual overtones, or bring you closer

to

> > God –

> > >

> > > > > > provided that

> > > > > > > the deity of the dasamsa (the 10 dikpalas) are also

> > > spiritual

> > > > in

> > > > > > nature.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (3) This question is out of curiosity: what does DK

> > signify?

> > > > Is

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > DK planet of husband the AK of the wife? what is your

> > > > experience?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Visti] The AK is yourself, and the DK is your

> > > > spouses/partners.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for your time,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - Sourav

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

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December 12, 2004

Dear Visti,Namaskar

Can you please elaborate on the following :

"The less dominant one will come into being during certain dasas."

Regards,

Sameer

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>

> Always use both lords – never exclude one. Point is that whilst one

may

> dominate most of the time, the other WILL come into play sometimes

in life.

> Which one is dominant is decided through strength rules. The less

dominant

> one will come into being during certain dasas.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> 12 December 2004 18:02

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: Lordship based on strengths

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> (1) you said Ra is Lord of A5 (Aquarius), because Ra is is a better

> position than Sa? Does Lord of 9th in 4-th (kendra)constitute a

> Rajayoga ? Do we consider such lordship only for some specific

> purpose and not in general for like determining yogas?

>

> (2) If so, because Ke is in a better porition than Ma so Ke lords

my

> 6H (Sc) and 11H (Aries) ? Please correct me. Thanks,

>

> - Sourav

>

=====================================================================

>

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Jupiter is in Lagna ensuring that through austerities Vach-

> Siddhi

> > will come.

> > > Rähu and Ketu rule mathematics and Ganita which are important

> for

> > Jyotish,

> > > hence when analyzing an astrologers chart, these two must be

> > checked. Ketu

> > > is auspiciously placed in his moolatrikona sign in the 10th

> house,

> > showing

> > > strong sense of spirituality and spiritual direction in life.

> > >

> > > Rähu is also well placed in his moolatrikona sign, however Rähu

> is

> > in 4th

> > > house indicating kapata yoga, which will cause you to be

cheated

> > by many

> > > people in your attempts to learn and use astrology – you should

> > learn the

> > > Prasna Shastra well to be able to spot this – Since Rähu is

> joined

> > A7 it

> > > will be business partners, or people seeking your companionship

> > who will try

> > > to cheat you. Since the A7 also shows the clients reasons for

> > seeing you,

> > > most of the clients will either be seeking to cheat or scheme

> > against others

> > > or have already been cheated by others. Rähu is the natural

> > badhakesh, so

> > > many Bädhak related problems will be seen in the charts of your

> > clients.

> > >

> > > Now these are normally not severe problems, but Rähu is also

> lord

> > of the A5

> > > showing your learning of Jyotisha and these clients can make

you

> > doubt or

> > > loose faith in your learning – Jupiters aspect on Rähu and A5

> will

> > however

> > > help you regain your faith, and continue learning Jyotish.

> > >

> > > One thing I must bring up – jyotish or non-jyotish. The 2nd

from

> > the A5

> > > shows the predictions you make, and since Ketu is there, you

can

> > tend to

> > > give negative predictions quite easily and sometimes without

> > thinking. This

> > > is not the way to use your Vach – Siddhi, and you must practice

> > > throughfullness due to the strength of your austerities.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > >

> > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > 10 December 2004 17:31

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: Personal Question

> > >

> > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > what is the best and most authoritative source

> > (classical

> > > source) for Upagrahas?

> > >

> > > No, I am having a diksha-mantra but I am also passing through a

> > > tremendous change in spiritual outlook. I am running Me

> antardasa

> > > and Me is my AK/LL/Navamsa-LL. So that is indicated that I will

> be

> > > going through such a change. I can't talk about it any more

> though

> > I

> > > know that you have seen in in my chart.

> > >

> > > I want to ask you a question. I am thinking of learning Jyotish

> > > properly, not in an offhand way. Although, (it may be

> apparently)

> > > Jyotish talks too much about our relative existance, I

> understand

> > > that unless and until a firm understanding of this relativeness

> of

> > > life in under grasp, one cannot transcend it. Having said that

I

> > > also want to say that learning Jyotish is not going to be my

> > primary

> > > objective in life - it is to take care of all my present and

> > future

> > > responsibilities and realize my Ishtam. But I realize Jyotish

> will

> > > help.

> > >

> > > (Are there any indication if learning Jyotish will be

> auspicious /

> > > inauspicious ? please see my chart)

> > >

> > > I believe in a strong traditional guru-sishya parampara and I

> dont

> > > think the real light will come only through my own intelligence

> > and

> > > intellectuality. I want to ask if there is a possibility of

> being

> > in

> > > touch with an upaguru/acharya in SJC, one who can accept me as

a

> > > distant pupil and who will be able to provide me with guidance.

> > What

> > > is SJC's stand on such a request.

> > >

> > > You have been a big help is many little ways. Thanks.

> > >

> > > - Sourav

> > > =======================================================

> > >

> > > , "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > The next division of the Upagrahas is in; Aprakasha vs

> Upagraha.

> > > >

> > > > Here; Dhuma, Indra Chaapa, Parivesha, Vyatipata and Upaketu

> are

> > > Aprakasha

> > > > Grahas, and can cause direct physical damage to the body or

> > other

> > > peoples

> > > > bodies.

> > > >

> > > > The other upagrahas can cause loss of memory, or lack of

> > > knowledge, and in

> > > > few cases avert evil, like Yamaghantaka.

> > > >

> > > > In d9 they say that: Mandi placed in trines to Navamsa lagna

> > > causes one to

> > > > be without knowledge of ones birthtime.

> > > >

> > > > The reason I asked about your Mantra is because of the

ammount

> > of

> > > questions

> > > > you posed – I use vedic-numerology to see what influences the

> > > person is

> > > > under from their style of writing or the number of questions

> > they

> > > ask.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

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> > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > > 10 December 2004 16:43

> > > >

> > > > Re: #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three

questions

> > > >

> > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > O.K. etimologically yes, I agree. But what is

> > > > significance in D-1 and D-n's?

> > > >

> > > > Also, why did you ask about my guru mantra ? I am a bit taken

> > > aback.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > - Sourav

> > > > =====================================================

> > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> <visti@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > The word Graha comes from the word; Grahana which means to

> > > eclipse

> > > > or take

> > > > > hold of. So this means that the Grahas can control our

> minds,

> > > our

> > > > body and

> > > > > etc. An Upagraha can however not control our mind, and

> instead

> > > can

> > > > only

> > > > > control some body-parts or organs.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > > > 10 December 2004 16:29

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three

> questions

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your input. Yes I am doing guru mantra. why you

> ask?

> > > > >

> > > > > Significance of Upagraha in different houses is given in an

> > > > article.

> > > > > Like what does Gulika mean in 1H, 2H, etc. Upagraha is a

> > > satellite

> > > > > of a graha. A Graha has a primary significance. But it also

> > can

> > > > have

> > > > > a secondary or a tertiary significance. Upagraha signifies

> > that.

> > > > > That is my understanding. Kindly comment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > - Sourav

> > > > >

> > > > > =====================================================

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > <visti@s...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Comments below.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > > > > 10 December 2004 14:44

> > > > > >

> > > > > > #2: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three

questions

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks a lot. However, I request some clarifications.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (1) I am a bit led off by the term "siddhamsa". I thought

> it

> > > > > > means "siddha" meaning achievement or success in general.

> > You

> > > > are

> > > > > > saying that this is only for educational sphere? Kindly

> > > comment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] When you attain siddhi of something, you have

> > attained

> > > > full

> > > > > > knowledge of that subject. Hence siddhamsa will show all

> the

> > > > > siddhis you

> > > > > > have in formal and informal spheres of learning. The D-10

> is

> > > the

> > > > > Karma-amsa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also, I thought 6-th house is a house of obstacles. Is

its

> > > > > > significance not the same in D-10? So work doesn't

involve

> > > > > > overcoming a lot of resistance?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] In the dasamsa the 6th house is the house of work

> > and

> > > > > service. This

> > > > > > service is necessary for one to later express ones

> > > > qualifications

> > > > > indicated

> > > > > > by the 10th house, and finally retire with a big bundle

of

> > > money

> > > > > indicated

> > > > > > by the 2nd house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (2) My AK is in 3H (with Ke,Ve,A7,UL) in Aries lorded by

> > Mars,

> > > > > owned

> > > > > > of 10-th House)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] So?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (3) My question about AK and DK was that from your

> charting

> > > > > > experiences, have you seen for a husband & wife charts,

> that

> > > DK

> > > > > > graha in husband's chart is same as AK graha in wife's

> > chart?

> > > Is

> > > > > it

> > > > > > commonly like this? I know DK also means partners.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] No it is not common in my experience.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (4) New Question: What are the role of Upagrahas in D-n

> > charts?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] First understand their role in the d1 chart. What

> is

> > > the

> > > > > difference

> > > > > > between a Graha and an Upagraha?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A separate question; You are not doing a Guru mantra are

> you?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your time,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Sourav

> > > > > >

> > >

=================================================================

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > > <visti@s...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sourav,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Comments below.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> > > > > > > 10 December 2004 01:34

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (1) In my D-10, if I am looking at the 2-6-10 houses, I

> > find

> > > > an

> > > > > > > exalted Jupiter and a debilitated Ma, both retrograde,

> are

> > > > > sitting

> > > > > > > in the 6-th house. It is interesting because Ju owns 2H

> > > > (Pisces)

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > Ma owns 10H (Scorpio). What does this mean? Does it

mean

> > my

> > > > work

> > > > > > > will be done by overcoming a lot of resistance (10-th

> Lord

> > > in

> > > > 6H)

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > will be provided with a lot of resources (2nd lord in

> 6H) ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Visti] 10th house shows the work you are qualified to

> do,

> > > if

> > > > > the

> > > > > > 10th lord

> > > > > > > is in the 6th house, you actually do the work you were

> > > trained

> > > > > to

> > > > > > do. In

> > > > > > > many cases people are educated as engineers and end up

> > being

> > > > > > salesmen or

> > > > > > > managers of some sort – so what you are qualified to do

> > and

> > > > what

> > > > > > you are

> > > > > > > doing need not be the same.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If this is true (a) what is the nature of work (b) How

> do

> > we

> > > > see

> > > > > > > success/failure in this work/career (in D-10 or

> Siddhamsa)?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Visti] The nature of the work is indicated by the

> planets

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > initially, then the 10th and lastly the 2nd. Planets in

> > the

> > > > 6th

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > dominate initially, then the lord of 6th, and then the

> > > aspects

> > > > > on

> > > > > > 6th –

> > > > > > > after which we move to the 10th house and analyze in

the

> > > same

> > > > > way.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars with Jupiter indicates working with a lot of money

> > and

> > > > > > logistics is

> > > > > > > indicated. D-10 alone is used to analyze the work we

do,

> > > > whilst

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > siddhamsa (d-24) is seen for education and learning.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (2) What is the significance of AK in D-10 and other D-

> n ?

> > > AK

> > > > > > > signifies punishments/setbacks that are supposed to

> > > enlighten

> > > > us.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Visti] The atmakäraka in d10 indicates that work which

> > will

> > > > > bring

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > closer to God. If AK is in 6th house in D-10 then the

> > nature

> > > > of

> > > > > > the work can

> > > > > > > have strong spiritual overtones, or bring you closer to

> > God –

> > >

> > > > > > provided that

> > > > > > > the deity of the dasamsa (the 10 dikpalas) are also

> > > spiritual

> > > > in

> > > > > > nature.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (3) This question is out of curiosity: what does DK

> > signify?

> > > > Is

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > DK planet of husband the AK of the wife? what is your

> > > > experience?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Visti] The AK is yourself, and the DK is your

> > > > spouses/partners.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for your time,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - Sourav

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sameer, Namaskar

I have a chart with Rahu in Upapada for

Aquarius Lagna. So this means Lagna lord is in Upapada.

The other lagna lord – Saturn is

placed in the 5th house.

Throughout Rahu dasa she was very

supportive of her spouse and had no objections towards him.

As soon as Jupiter Dasa started she didn’t

even wanto see the spouses face anymore – so we must infer that Rahu cannot

be dominating the lagna’s lordship anymore don’t you think?

Best wishes,

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Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To

Visti-ji: Lordship based on strengths

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Dear Visti,Namaskar

Can you please elaborate on the following :

"The less dominant one will come into being

during certain dasas."

Regards,

Sameer

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>

> Always use both lords – never exclude

one. Point is that whilst one

may

> dominate most of the time, the other WILL

come into play sometimes

in life.

> Which one is dominant is decided through

strength rules. The less

dominant

> one will come into being during certain

dasas.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> 12 December 2004 18:02

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji:

Lordship based on strengths

>

> Dear Vistiji,

>

> (1) you said Ra is Lord of A5 (Aquarius),

because Ra is is a better

> position than Sa? Does Lord of 9th in 4-th

(kendra)constitute a

> Rajayoga ? Do we consider such lordship only

for some specific

> purpose and not in general for like

determining yogas?

>

> (2) If so, because Ke is in a better porition

than Ma so Ke lords

my

> 6H (Sc) and 11H (Aries) ? Please correct me.

Thanks,

>

> - Sourav

>

=====================================================================

>

> >

> > ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Jupiter is in Lagna ensuring that

through austerities Vach-

> Siddhi

> > will come.

> > > Rähu and Ketu rule mathematics and

Ganita which are important

> for

> > Jyotish,

> > > hence when analyzing an astrologers

chart, these two must be

> > checked. Ketu

> > > is auspiciously placed in his

moolatrikona sign in the 10th

> house,

> > showing

> > > strong sense of spirituality and

spiritual direction in life.

> > >

> > > Rähu is also well placed in his

moolatrikona sign, however Rähu

> is

> > in 4th

> > > house indicating kapata yoga, which

will cause you to be

cheated

> > by many

> > > people in your attempts to learn

and use astrology – you should

> > learn the

> > > Prasna Shastra well to be able to

spot this – Since Rähu is

> joined

> > A7 it

> > > will be business partners, or

people seeking your companionship

> > who will try

> > > to cheat you. Since the A7 also

shows the clients reasons for

> > seeing you,

> > > most of the clients will either be

seeking to cheat or scheme

> > against others

> > > or have already been cheated by

others. Rähu is the natural

> > badhakesh, so

> > > many Bädhak related problems will

be seen in the charts of your

> > clients.

> > >

> > > Now these are normally not severe

problems, but Rähu is also

> lord

> > of the A5

> > > showing your learning of Jyotisha

and these clients can make

you

> > doubt or

> > > loose faith in your learning

– Jupiters aspect on Rähu and A5

> will

> > however

> > > help you regain your faith, and

continue learning Jyotish.

> > >

> > > One thing I must bring up –

jyotish or non-jyotish. The 2nd

from

> > the A5

> > > shows the predictions you make, and

since Ketu is there, you

can

> > tend to

> > > give negative predictions quite

easily and sometimes without

> > thinking. This

> > > is not the way to use your Vach

– Siddhi, and you must practice

> > > throughfullness due to the strength

of your austerities.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > >

> > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > feynman_8

[feynman_8]

> > > 10 December 2004 17:31

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] To

Visti-ji: Personal Question

> > >

> > > Dear Visti-ji,

> >

> what is the

best and most authoritative source

> > (classical

> > > source) for Upagrahas?

> > >

> > > No, I am having a diksha-mantra but

I am also passing through a

> > > tremendous change in spiritual

outlook. I am running Me

> antardasa

> > > and Me is my AK/LL/Navamsa-LL. So

that is indicated that I will

> be

> > > going through such a change. I

can't talk about it any more

> though

> > I

> > > know that you have seen in in my

chart.

> > >

> > > I want to ask you a question. I am

thinking of learning Jyotish

> > > properly, not in an offhand way.

Although, (it may be

> apparently)

> > > Jyotish talks too much about our

relative existance, I

> understand

> > > that unless and until a firm

understanding of this relativeness

> of

> > > life in under grasp, one cannot

transcend it. Having said that

I

> > > also want to say that learning

Jyotish is not going to be my

> > primary

> > > objective in life - it is to take

care of all my present and

> > future

> > > responsibilities and realize my

Ishtam. But I realize Jyotish

> will

> > > help.

> > >

> > > (Are there any indication if

learning Jyotish will be

> auspicious /

> > > inauspicious ? please see my chart)

> > >

> > > I believe in a strong traditional

guru-sishya parampara and I

> dont

> > > think the real light will come only

through my own intelligence

> > and

> > > intellectuality. I want to ask if

there is a possibility of

> being

> > in

> > > touch with an upaguru/acharya in

SJC, one who can accept me as

a

> > > distant pupil and who will be able

to provide me with guidance.

> > What

> > > is SJC's stand on such a request.

> > >

> > > You have been a big help is many

little ways. Thanks.

> > >

> > > - Sourav

> > >

=======================================================

> > >

> > > --- In

, "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > The next division of the

Upagrahas is in; Aprakasha vs

> Upagraha.

> > > >

> > > > Here; Dhuma, Indra Chaapa,

Parivesha, Vyatipata and Upaketu

> are

> > > Aprakasha

> > > > Grahas, and can cause direct

physical damage to the body or

> > other

> > > peoples

> > > > bodies.

> > > >

> > > > The other upagrahas can cause

loss of memory, or lack of

> > > knowledge, and in

> > > > few cases avert evil, like

Yamaghantaka.

> > > >

> > > > In d9 they say that: Mandi

placed in trines to Navamsa lagna

> > > causes one to

> > > > be without knowledge of ones

birthtime.

> > > >

> > > > The reason I asked about your

Mantra is because of the

ammount

> > of

> > > questions

> > > > you posed – I use

vedic-numerology to see what influences the

> > > person is

> > > > under from their style of

writing or the number of questions

> > they

> > > ask.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

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> > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > feynman_8

[feynman_8]

> > > > 10 December 2004 16:43

> > > > To:

> > > > Re: #2: [Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti-ji: three

questions

> > > >

> > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > >

>

O.K. etimologically yes, I agree. But what is

> > > > significance in D-1 and D-n's?

> > > >

> > > > Also, why did you ask about my

guru mantra ? I am a bit taken

> > > aback.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > - Sourav

> > > > =====================================================

> > > > --- In

, "Visti Larsen"

> <visti@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > The word Graha comes from

the word; Grahana which means to

> > > eclipse

> > > > or take

> > > > > hold of. So this means

that the Grahas can control our

> minds,

> > > our

> > > > body and

> > > > > etc. An Upagraha can

however not control our mind, and

> instead

> > > can

> > > > only

> > > > > control some body-parts

or organs.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

> > > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > feynman_8

[feynman_8]

> > > > > 10 December 2004

16:29

> > > > > To:

> > > > > Re: #2: [Om

Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three

> questions

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > >

>

> > > > > Thanks for your input.

Yes I am doing guru mantra. why you

> ask?

> > > > >

> > > > > Significance of Upagraha

in different houses is given in an

> > > > article.

> > > > > Like what does Gulika

mean in 1H, 2H, etc. Upagraha is a

> > > satellite

> > > > > of a graha. A Graha has a

primary significance. But it also

> > can

> > > > have

> > > > > a secondary or a tertiary

significance. Upagraha signifies

> > that.

> > > > > That is my understanding.

Kindly comment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > - Sourav

> > > > >

=====================================================

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, "Visti Larsen"

> > <visti@s...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sourav,

Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Comments below.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://srigaruda.com

> > > > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > > > >

_____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > feynman_8

[feynman_8]

> > > > > > 10 December

2004 14:44

> > > > > > To:

> > > > > > #2: [Om

Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three

questions

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks a lot.

However, I request some clarifications.

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > (1) I am a bit led

off by the term "siddhamsa". I thought

> it

> > > > > > means

"siddha" meaning achievement or success in general.

> > You

> > > > are

> > > > > > saying that this is

only for educational sphere? Kindly

> > > comment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] When you

attain siddhi of something, you have

> > attained

> > > > full

> > > > > > knowledge of that

subject. Hence siddhamsa will show all

> the

> > > > > siddhis you

> > > > > > have in formal and

informal spheres of learning. The D-10

> is

> > > the

> > > > > Karma-amsa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also, I thought 6-th

house is a house of obstacles. Is

its

> > > > > > significance not the

same in D-10? So work doesn't

involve

> > > > > > overcoming a lot of

resistance?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] In the

dasamsa the 6th house is the house of work

> > and

> > > > > service. This

> > > > > > service is necessary

for one to later express ones

> > > > qualifications

> > > > > indicated

> > > > > > by the 10th house,

and finally retire with a big bundle

of

> > > money

> > > > > indicated

> > > > > > by the 2nd house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (2) My AK is in 3H

(with Ke,Ve,A7,UL) in Aries lorded by

> > Mars,

> > > > > owned

> > > > > > of 10-th House)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] So?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (3) My question

about AK and DK was that from your

> charting

> > > > > > experiences, have

you seen for a husband & wife charts,

> that

> > > DK

> > > > > > graha in husband's

chart is same as AK graha in wife's

> > chart?

> > > Is

> > > > > it

> > > > > > commonly like this?

I know DK also means partners.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] No it is not

common in my experience.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (4) New Question:

What are the role of Upagrahas in D-n

> > charts?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Visti] First

understand their role in the d1 chart. What

> is

> > > the

> > > > > difference

> > > > > > between a Graha and

an Upagraha?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A separate question;

You are not doing a Guru mantra are

> you?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your

time,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Sourav

> > > > > >

> > >

=================================================================

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

, "Visti Larsen"

> > > <visti@s...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > ||Hare Rama

Krsna||

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sourav,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Comments below.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > http://srigaruda.com

> > > > > > >

<visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > > > > >

_____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > feynman_8

[feynman_8]

> > > > > > > 10

December 2004 01:34

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Om

Krishna Guru] To Visti-ji: three questions

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Visti-ji,

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > (1) In my D-10,

if I am looking at the 2-6-10 houses, I

> > find

> > > > an

> > > > > > > exalted Jupiter

and a debilitated Ma, both retrograde,

> are

> > > > > sitting

> > > > > > > in the 6-th

house. It is interesting because Ju owns 2H

> > > > (Pisces)

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > Ma owns 10H

(Scorpio). What does this mean? Does it

mean

> > my

> > > > work

> > > > > > > will be done by

overcoming a lot of resistance (10-th

> Lord

> > > in

> > > > 6H)

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > will be

provided with a lot of resources (2nd lord in

> 6H) ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Visti] 10th

house shows the work you are qualified to

> do,

> > > if

> > > > > the

> > > > > > 10th lord

> > > > > > > is in the 6th

house, you actually do the work you were

> > > trained

> > > > > to

> > > > > > do. In

> > > > > > > many cases

people are educated as engineers and end up

> > being

> > > > > > salesmen or

> > > > > > > managers of

some sort – so what you are qualified to do

> > and

> > > > what

> > > > > > you are

> > > > > > > doing need not

be the same.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If this is true

(a) what is the nature of work (b) How

> do

> > we

> > > > see

> > > > > > > success/failure

in this work/career (in D-10 or

> Siddhamsa)?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Visti] The

nature of the work is indicated by the

> planets

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > initially, then

the 10th and lastly the 2nd. Planets in

> > the

> > > > 6th

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > dominate

initially, then the lord of 6th, and then the

> > > aspects

> > > > > on

> > > > > > 6th –

> > > > > > > after which we

move to the 10th house and analyze in

the

> > > same

> > > > > way.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars with

Jupiter indicates working with a lot of money

> > and

> > > > > > logistics is

> > > > > > > indicated. D-10

alone is used to analyze the work we

do,

> > > > whilst

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > siddhamsa

(d-24) is seen for education and learning.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (2) What is the

significance of AK in D-10 and other D-

> n ?

> > > AK

> > > > > > > signifies

punishments/setbacks that are supposed to

> > > enlighten

> > > > us.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Visti] The

atmakäraka in d10 indicates that work which

> > will

> > > > > bring

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > closer to God.

If AK is in 6th house in D-10 then the

> > nature

> > > > of

> > > > > > the work can

> > > > > > > have strong

spiritual overtones, or bring you closer to

> > God –

> > >

> > > > > > provided that

> > > > > > > the deity of

the dasamsa (the 10 dikpalas) are also

> > > spiritual

> > > > in

> > > > > > nature.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (3) This

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> > > > Is

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > DK planet of

husband the AK of the wife? what is your

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> > > > > > > [Visti] The AK

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