Guest guest Posted December 25, 2004 Report Share Posted December 25, 2004 Namaskar, In BPHS Ch 48, Maharishi Parasara states how to determine the effects of a particular Dasha-Antar based on the placement and ownership of the planets concerned. He also stresses, however, that the position of a planet at the commencement of its Dasha is of great importance in determining the results. For example, he says that if the planet is in Ari or Randhr at the commencement of its Dasha (or Antar), then the effects will be bad. Is this considered relative to the natal Lagna or independently? i.e, do we have to look at a prashna chart or just the rasi of the planet, and consider its position relative to the Lagna rasi? The use of a prashna chart seems near impossible since we don't know exactly when the Dasha starts. Also, it is said that in general, the Dasha of 3L will yield negative results… While I am finding this to be true in the absence of benefic drishti/position, I'm unsure as to why this is the case. Does 3H have a darker side? I'll be grateful for your comments. Thank you, Samir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Samir, If you have heard of Dasa Pravesh chart, then your first query gets answered.Infact you mentioned at 'Dasa Pravesha'. Difficult to erect for nakshatra based dasas, and much more difficult for antara dasas. Reason is it is very much time sensitive. Secondly, 3rd is very much a negative house. The seed of kama (3,7 & 11). Hope this helps. regards viswanadham On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 05:57:55 -0000, ray_of_solaris <a48919062 wrote: > > > Namaskar, > > In BPHS Ch 48, Maharishi Parasara states how to determine the effects > of a particular Dasha-Antar based on the placement and ownership of > the planets concerned. He also stresses, however, that the position > of a planet at the commencement of its Dasha is of great importance > in determining the results. > > For example, he says that if the planet is in Ari or Randhr at the > commencement of its Dasha (or Antar), then the effects will be bad. > Is this considered relative to the natal Lagna or independently? > i.e, do we have to look at a prashna chart or just the rasi of the > planet, and consider its position relative to the Lagna rasi? The > use of a prashna chart seems near impossible since we don't know > exactly when the Dasha starts. > > Also, it is said that in general, the Dasha of 3L will yield negative > results… While I am finding this to be true in the absence of benefic > drishti/position, I'm unsure as to why this is the case. Does 3H > have a darker side? > > I'll be grateful for your comments. > > Thank you, > > Samir > Viswanadham Management Consultant MONEYMATTERS + 91 98 202 28271 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Samir, Namaskar Comments below. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">ray_of_solaris [a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk] 26 December 2004 06:58 [Om Krishna Guru] The results of Dashas 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Namaskar, In BPHS Ch 48, Maharishi Parasara states how to determine the effects of a particular Dasha-Antar based on the placement and ownership of the planets concerned. He also stresses, however, that the position of a planet at the commencement of its Dasha is of great importance in determining the results. [Visti] Correct. font-family:"Courier New""> For example, he says that if the planet is in Ari or Randhr at the commencement of its Dasha (or Antar), then the effects will be bad. Is this considered relative to the natal Lagna or independently? i.e, do we have to look at a prashna chart or just the rasi of the planet, and consider its position relative to the Lagna rasi? The use of a prashna chart seems near impossible since we don't know exactly when the Dasha starts. [Visti] This is called Dasa-pravesh, where a chart is drawn for the time of the commencement of a Dasa, just like Tithi-pravesh being the beginning of a Tithi-new year for the native. There are more principles on how to use this specifically with vimshottari dasa, in Jataka Parijata. With the new chart, we have a new lagna, and we see the placement of the planets with regards to this. Yes we can know when the dasa starts, with some precission formulas, that’s why jagannath hora calculates the beginning of the dasa down to seconds. font-family:"Courier New""> Also, it is said that in general, the Dasha of 3L will yield negative results… While I am finding this to be true in the absence of benefic drishti/position, I'm unsure as to why this is the case. Does 3H have a darker side? [Visti] the 3rd house causes us to pick our weapons and struggle. Also the 3rd house obstructs the 11th house, can causes our hopes and desires to be smashed. font-family:"Courier New""> I'll be grateful for your comments. Thank you, Samir ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Attachment: (image/jpeg) image001.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Viswanadham, Namaskar You mean to say that 7th house is inauspicious because it’s a house of enjoymeny (kaama)? Or are you just including it because it is a Maraka? Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Viswanadham [vishwanatham ] 26 December 2004 11:34 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] The results of Dashas 12.0pt"> 10.0pt">Hare Rama Krishna Dear Samir, If you have heard of Dasa Pravesh chart, then your first query gets answered.Infact you mentioned at 'Dasa Pravesha'. Difficult to erect for nakshatra based dasas, and much more difficult for antara dasas. Reason is it is very much time sensitive. Secondly, 3rd is very much a negative house. The seed of kama (3,7 & 11). Hope this helps. regards viswanadham On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 05:57:55 -0000, ray_of_solaris <a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: > > > Namaskar, > > In BPHS Ch 48, Maharishi Parasara states how to determine the effects > of a particular Dasha-Antar based on the placement and ownership of > the planets concerned. He also stresses, however, that the position > of a planet at the commencement of its Dasha is of great importance > in determining the results. > > For example, he says that if the planet is in Ari or Randhr at the > commencement of its Dasha (or Antar), then the effects will be bad. > Is this considered relative to the natal Lagna or independently? > i.e, do we have to look at a prashna chart or just the rasi of the > planet, and consider its position relative to the Lagna rasi? The > use of a prashna chart seems near impossible since we don't know > exactly when the Dasha starts. > > Also, it is said that in general, the Dasha of 3L will yield negative > results… While I am finding this to be true in the absence of benefic > drishti/position, I'm unsure as to why this is the case. Does 3H > have a darker side? > > I'll be grateful for your comments. > > Thank you, > > Samir > Viswanadham Management Consultant MONEYMATTERS + 91 98 202 28271 ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Attachment: (image/jpeg) image001.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Visti, Namaskar. No. 7th is a maraka, 11th is the culmination of everything and so could be death also. 3rd as you said is weapons. So, all are bad. As desires cause rebirth, i said 3rd as the seed of desires (in the trikona) is negative. As a teaching point i agree that 3rd is bad because of 'weapons'. i guess many more lessons will be based on this basis. Thanks for your mail. regards viswanadham On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:13:09 +0100, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Viswanadham, Namaskar > > You mean to say that 7th house is inauspicious because it's a house of > enjoymeny (kaama)? Or are you just including it because it is a Maraka? > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > http://srigaruda.com > > visti > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Viswanadham [vishwanatham] > 26 December 2004 11:34 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] The results of Dashas > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Samir, > > If you have heard of Dasa Pravesh chart, then your first query gets > answered.Infact you mentioned at 'Dasa Pravesha'. Difficult to erect > for nakshatra based dasas, and much more difficult for antara dasas. > Reason is it is very much time sensitive. > > Secondly, 3rd is very much a negative house. The seed of kama (3,7 & 11). > > Hope this helps. > > regards > viswanadham > > > On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 05:57:55 -0000, ray_of_solaris > <a48919062 wrote: > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > In BPHS Ch 48, Maharishi Parasara states how to determine the effects > > of a particular Dasha-Antar based on the placement and ownership of > > the planets concerned. He also stresses, however, that the position > > of a planet at the commencement of its Dasha is of great importance > > in determining the results. > > > > For example, he says that if the planet is in Ari or Randhr at the > > commencement of its Dasha (or Antar), then the effects will be bad. > > Is this considered relative to the natal Lagna or independently? > > i.e, do we have to look at a prashna chart or just the rasi of the > > planet, and consider its position relative to the Lagna rasi? The > > use of a prashna chart seems near impossible since we don't know > > exactly when the Dasha starts. > > > > Also, it is said that in general, the Dasha of 3L will yield negative > > results… While I am finding this to be true in the absence of benefic > > drishti/position, I'm unsure as to why this is the case. Does 3H > > have a darker side? > > > > I'll be grateful for your comments. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Samir > > Viswanadham > > > > > > Management Consultant > MONEYMATTERS > + 91 98 202 28271 > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > Sponsor > > > ________________________________ > Links > > / > > > > > -- Viswanadham Management Consultant MONEYMATTERS + 91 98 202 28271 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 Dear Vistiji, Namaskar, Thank you for your comments. I'm guessing that that feature is not available in the Lite version of JH. Either that or I'm not looking in the right place. I have been trying to understand the Upachayas, and why they are called that. I know that these are linked strongly to free will. I think I can see how this might be the case for 3H (how we use our weapons), 6H (how we react to our enemies), 10H (our deeds within society) – even though that's a very simplistic approach. But I'm not sure how 11H fits into this pattern – because it represents profit, and not how we use that profit. Could you please explain this? Thank you, Samir , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > Comments below. > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > ray_of_solaris [a48919062] > 26 December 2004 06:58 > > [Om Krishna Guru] The results of Dashas > > > > > Namaskar, > > In BPHS Ch 48, Maharishi Parasara states how to determine the effects > of a particular Dasha-Antar based on the placement and ownership of > the planets concerned. He also stresses, however, that the position > of a planet at the commencement of its Dasha is of great importance > in determining the results. > > > > [Visti] Correct. > > > For example, he says that if the planet is in Ari or Randhr at the > commencement of its Dasha (or Antar), then the effects will be bad. > Is this considered relative to the natal Lagna or independently? > i.e, do we have to look at a prashna chart or just the rasi of the > planet, and consider its position relative to the Lagna rasi? The > use of a prashna chart seems near impossible since we don't know > exactly when the Dasha starts. > > > > [Visti] This is called Dasa-pravesh, where a chart is drawn for the time of > the commencement of a Dasa, just like Tithi-pravesh being the beginning of a > Tithi-new year for the native. There are more principles on how to use this > specifically with vimshottari dasa, in Jataka Parijata. With the new chart, > we have a new lagna, and we see the placement of the planets with regards to > this. > > Yes we can know when the dasa starts, with some precission formulas, that's > why jagannath hora calculates the beginning of the dasa down to seconds. > > > Also, it is said that in general, the Dasha of 3L will yield negative > results. While I am finding this to be true in the absence of benefic > drishti/position, I'm unsure as to why this is the case. Does 3H > have a darker side? > > > > [Visti] the 3rd house causes us to pick our weapons and struggle. Also the > 3rd house obstructs the 11th house, can causes our hopes and desires to be > smashed. > > > I'll be grateful for your comments. > > Thank you, > > Samir > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Sponsor > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129b8h8kf/M=294855.5468653.6549235.300117 6/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1104139313/A=2455396/R=0/SIG=119u9qmi7/*http: /small > business./domains/> click here > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? M=294855.5468653.6549235.3001176/D=groups/S= > :HM/A=2455396/rand=637962080> > > > > _____ > > Links > > * > / > > * > > <? subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Samir, Namaskar The 11th house is the profit we are looking forward to. The actual profit only happens from the 11th from AL, and not the 11th from Lagna. The 11th house is like the carrot on the stick and hence also deals with much more than just gains, but also our hope and desires. Because the 11th house is the 2nd from the 10th house, it shows the promise of gains that we can get for work. But the real and material gain is seen from the 11th from AL. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">ray_of_solaris [a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk] 27 December 2004 10:26 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] The results of Dashas 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Dear Vistiji, Namaskar, Thank you for your comments. I'm guessing that that feature is not available in the Lite version of JH. Either that or I'm not looking in the right place. I have been trying to understand the Upachayas, and why they are called that. I know that these are linked strongly to free will. I think I can see how this might be the case for 3H (how we use our weapons), 6H (how we react to our enemies), 10H (our deeds within society) – even though that's a very simplistic approach. But I'm not sure how 11H fits into this pattern – because it represents profit, and not how we use that profit. Could you please explain this? Thank you, Samir , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > Comments below. > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > ray_of_solaris [a48919062] > 26 December 2004 06:58 > > [Om Krishna Guru] The results of Dashas > > > > > Namaskar, > > In BPHS Ch 48, Maharishi Parasara states how to determine the effects > of a particular Dasha-Antar based on the placement and ownership of > the planets concerned. He also stresses, however, that the position > of a planet at the commencement of its Dasha is of great importance > in determining the results. > > > > [Visti] Correct. > > > For example, he says that if the planet is in Ari or Randhr at the > commencement of its Dasha (or Antar), then the effects will be bad. > Is this considered relative to the natal Lagna or independently? > i.e, do we have to look at a prashna chart or just the rasi of the > planet, and consider its position relative to the Lagna rasi? The > use of a prashna chart seems near impossible since we don't know > exactly when the Dasha starts. > > > > [Visti] This is called Dasa-pravesh, where a chart is drawn for the time of > the commencement of a Dasa, just like Tithi-pravesh being the beginning of a > Tithi-new year for the native. There are more principles on how to use this > specifically with vimshottari dasa, in Jataka Parijata. With the new chart, > we have a new lagna, and we see the placement of the planets with regards to > this. > > Yes we can know when the dasa starts, with some precission formulas, that's > why jagannath hora calculates the beginning of the dasa down to seconds. > > > Also, it is said that in general, the Dasha of 3L will yield negative > results. While I am finding this to be true in the absence of benefic > drishti/position, I'm unsure as to why this is the case. Does 3H > have a darker side? > > > > [Visti] the 3rd house causes us to pick our weapons and struggle. Also the > 3rd house obstructs the 11th house, can causes our hopes and desires to be > smashed. > > > I'll be grateful for your comments. > > Thank you, > > Samir > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129b8h8kf/M=294855.5468653.6549235.300117 6/D=gr > oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1104139313/A=2455396/R=0/SIG=119u9qmi7/*http: /small > business./domains/> click here > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? M=294855.5468653.6549235.3001176/D=groups/S= > :HM/A=2455396/rand=637962080> > > > > _____ > > Links > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > / > > * To from this group, send an email to: > > <? subject=Un> > > * Your use of is subject to the > <> Terms of Service. > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. 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