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Dear Vistiji,

This seemingly doesn't work for me. I was running

Ju/Me/Mo. Ju is in Lagna, Me is my AK & LL, Mo is in 5-th House . I

met my Spiritual Guru in this dasa and very soon received Mantram. I

don't see the connection to the 9-th H from Ju. 9-th L from Ju is Ra

which is placed 12-th to my Mo. Please shed some light.

 

However, the sign on the 9th H from Ju is Aq. and so I met my guru

in my USA which is far away from my native country, India. Also, I

met my Guru in an Ashram. Ra being the Lord of this house, the

occurance and receiving mantram afterwards was sudden. Does it make

sense?

 

I have also another question, there are many ppl who live and die

w/o a guru (formal guru). For them this dictum means they atleast

would meet some one special who in a way act as guide and shows them

the right path ?

 

Respectfully,

 

- Sourav

==============================================================

 

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sushmita, Namaskar

>

> The 9th lord from Jupiter brings the Guru. The placement of this

lord will

> reveal where one meets him/her.

>

> If the sign is movable then far away/overseas or a place which

does not

> speak the same language as your natal language.

>

> The planets joined will indicate the direction.

>

> The sign indicates the nature of the place where the meeting

occurs.

>

> Use Drig Dasa and find out when the 5th house/lord or A5 gets

activated, as

> this is when the mantra is given by the Guru and hence ones

initiation.

> After this then Diksha is given later on and is indicated by the

drig dasa

> of the 9th house/lord and A9 .

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Sushmita S [sushmita34]

> 01 January 2005 20:34

> Visti Larsen

> Cc:

> [Om Krishna Guru] Finding one's Guru

>

>

>

> || Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Namaskar

>

> Thanks so much for this detailed explanation. It truly is

insightful, more

> than I could ask for.

>

> Could I ask as to how to see in a chart the process of finding

one's Jyotish

> Guru and Diksha Guru.

>

> When how and where we would meet him.

>

> Can you be kind enough to outline a step by step procedure.

>

> I am truly confused whether I should see it from 9th lords

> placement/association or BKs placement.I am only aware that Jups

transit

> over A5 can give one a Guru.

>

> Kind regards,

>

>

>

> Sushmita

>

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sushmita, Namaskar

>

> Long distance usually means overseas or to a place which doesnt

speak the

> same language as you. i.e. a planet in own sign but a movable sign

can

> indicate same country, but in a place of a foreign language like

in india.

>

>

>

> The movable sign is the longest distance, whilst the fixed sign is

just

> around the corner or in same town. The dual signs are in between

the two

> distances, and can indicate a meeting whilst travelling between

home and

> overseas.

>

>

>

> These signs of nations are the result of discussion between my

Guru and I.

> Some people have published books on the countries and their signs,

but I

> havent studied this much. Basically you must compare the nature

of the

> country and its culture i.e. Germany is known for its efficiency

and its

> warmongering so Aries is an appropriate sign. The UK is known for

its very

> powerful business-like culture which was the purpose behind its

colonization

> of other lands, and hence is indicated by a market place Libra.

France puts

> a lot of weight on good food and wine as well as art-culture,

which can be

> indicated by Taurus we all talk about good french cuisine UK and

France are

> very much alike hence the two venusian signs.

>

> Denmark is one of the oldest Constitutional Monarchies and has

strong

> influences of the Sun on it.. infact it was due to the influence

of the

> vikings of denmark that Britain became a monarchy, so the monarchy

is very

> old in Denmark this could be indicated by Leo.

>

>

>

> Ireland is known for its strong spiritual roots, be they celtic,

catholic or

> protestant, and also its proneness towards fight and drink this

is no doubt

> the occult yet fiestive sign - Scorpio.

>

>

>

> Then comes a problem where we only have 12 signs and plenty of

countries

> Well the entire of Europe comes under the sign Aries for its

intensive

> War-mongering, be it barbarians, vikings, romans, celts, anglo

saxons,

> crusaders, nazis, etc. Also it was the center of the main progress

in the

> world for a very long time, colonizing and brutalizing the

americas, asia

> and the pacific islands for a long time. In a way it was the

instigator of a

> lot of what we see today.

>

>

>

> These signs are used mostly in mundane Jyotish when you have to

decide which

> part of the world an incident will take place in.

>

> Now a careful note: This is all research based. I havent seen

very much

> from the parampara in this regard, and only a hint of the same is

given in

> the Brihat Samhita.

>

>

>

> So balance your approach in this regard.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/>

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

_____

>

>

> Sushmita S [sushmita34]

> 01 January 2005 13:56

> visti@s...

> BK & meeting Guru

>

>

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

>

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Happy New Year

>

> I am going through your excellent article on "Role of Navamsa &

Drekkana in

> Prediction" on your website.

>

> In Chart 9 - On Bhatri Karaka you write that Mer is in a moveable

sign 12th

> house hence the meeting with the guru would happen long distance,

does it

> mean through the net or does it mean the foreign country is long

distance.

>

> a) What happens if it is a fixed sign (12th house)

>

> b) If it was a dual sign (12th house)

>

> In another para you write that UK (Libra) the native met his Guru,

is there

> a table which shows which country which sign? Can you kindly teach

me that.

>

> BKObliged,

>

>

>

> Sushmita

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav, Namaskar

I never mentioned vimshottari.

The distance is relative to the place of

stay or home.

Yes some people are without Gurus, I will

however wait with talking about that.

Best wishes,

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[Om Krishna Guru] To

Visti-ji : Finding one's Guru

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Dear Vistiji,

This seemingly doesn't work for me. I was running

Ju/Me/Mo. Ju is in Lagna, Me is my AK & LL, Mo

is in 5-th House . I

met my Spiritual Guru in this dasa and very soon

received Mantram. I

don't see the connection to the 9-th H from Ju.

9-th L from Ju is Ra

which is placed 12-th to my Mo. Please shed some light.

However, the sign on the 9th H from Ju is Aq. and

so I met my guru

in my USA

which is far away from my native country, India. Also, I

met my Guru in an Ashram. Ra being the Lord of

this house, the

occurance and receiving mantram afterwards

was sudden. Does it make

sense?

I have also another question, there are many ppl

who live and die

w/o a guru (formal guru). For them this dictum

means they atleast

would meet some one special who in a way act as

guide and shows them

the right path ?

Respectfully,

- Sourav

==============================================================

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sushmita, Namaskar

>

> The 9th lord from Jupiter brings the Guru.

The placement of this

lord will

> reveal where one meets him/her.

>

> If the sign is movable then far away/overseas

or a place which

does not

> speak the same language as your natal

language.

>

> The planets joined will indicate the

direction.

>

> The sign indicates the nature of the place

where the meeting

occurs.

>

> Use Drig Dasa and find out when the 5th

house/lord or A5 gets

activated, as

> this is when the mantra is given by the Guru

and hence ones

initiation.

> After this then Diksha is given later on and

is indicated by the

drig dasa

> of the 9th house/lord and A9 .

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Sushmita S [sushmita34]

> 01 January 2005 20:34

> Visti Larsen

> Cc:

> [Om Krishna Guru] Finding one's Guru

>

>

>

> || Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Namaskar

>

> Thanks so much for this detailed explanation.

It truly is

insightful, more

> than I could ask for.

>

> Could I ask as to how to see in a chart the

process of finding

one's Jyotish

> Guru and Diksha Guru.

>

> When how and where we would meet him.

>

> Can you be kind enough to outline a step by

step procedure.

>

> I am truly confused whether I should see it

from 9th lords

> placement/association or BKs placement.I am

only aware that Jups

transit

> over A5 can give one a Guru.

>

> Kind regards,

>

>

>

> Sushmita

>

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sushmita, Namaskar

>

> Long distance usually means overseas or to a

place which doesnt

speak the

> same language as you. i.e. a planet in own

sign but a movable sign

can

> indicate same country, but in a place of a

foreign language like

in india.

>

>

>

> The movable sign is the longest distance,

whilst the fixed sign is

just

> around the corner or in same town. The dual

signs are in between

the two

> distances, and can indicate a meeting whilst

travelling between

home and

> overseas.

>

>

>

> These signs of nations are the result of

discussion between my

Guru and I.

> Some people have published books on the

countries and their signs,

but I

> havent studied this much. Basically you

must compare the nature

of the

> country and its culture i.e. Germany is

known for its efficiency

and its

> warmongering so Aries is an appropriate sign.

The UK

is known for

its very

> powerful business-like culture which was the

purpose behind its

colonization

> of other lands, and hence is indicated by a

market place Libra.

France puts

> a lot of weight on good food and wine as well

as art-culture,

which can be

> indicated by Taurus we all talk about good

french cuisine UK and

France are

> very much alike hence the two venusian signs.

>

> Denmark is one of the oldest Constitutional

Monarchies and has

strong

> influences of the Sun on it.. infact it was

due to the influence

of the

> vikings of denmark

that Britain

became a monarchy, so the monarchy

is very

> old in Denmark this could be

indicated by Leo.

>

>

>

> Ireland is known for its strong

spiritual roots, be they celtic,

catholic or

> protestant, and also its proneness towards

fight and drink this

is no doubt

> the occult yet fiestive sign - Scorpio.

>

>

>

> Then comes a problem where we only have 12

signs and plenty of

countries

> Well the entire of Europe

comes under the sign Aries for its

intensive

> War-mongering, be it barbarians, vikings,

romans, celts, anglo

saxons,

> crusaders, nazis, etc. Also it was the center

of the main progress

in the

> world for a very long time, colonizing and

brutalizing the

americas, asia

> and the pacific islands for a long time. In a

way it was the

instigator of a

> lot of what we see today.

>

>

>

> These signs are used mostly in mundane

Jyotish when you have to

decide which

> part of the world an incident will take place

in.

>

> Now a careful note: This is all research

based. I havent seen

very much

> from the parampara in this regard, and only a

hint of the same is

given in

> the Brihat Samhita.

>

>

>

> So balance your approach in this regard.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

<http://srigaruda.com/>

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> Sushmita S [sushmita34]

> 01 January 2005 13:56

> visti@s...

> BK & meeting Guru

>

>

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

>

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Happy New Year

>

> I am going through your excellent article on

"Role of Navamsa &

Drekkana in

> Prediction" on your website.

>

> In Chart 9 - On Bhatri Karaka you write that

Mer is in a moveable

sign 12th

> house hence the meeting with the guru would

happen long distance,

does it

> mean through the net or does it mean the

foreign country is long

distance.

>

> a) What happens if it is a fixed sign (12th

house)

>

> b) If it was a dual sign (12th house)

>

> In another para you write that UK (Libra) the

native met his Guru,

is there

> a table which shows which country which sign?

Can you kindly teach

me that.

>

> BKObliged,

>

>

>

> Sushmita

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

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> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra

'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard

for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do

one free chart

reading today

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading today

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