Guest guest Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Namaskar, On the topic of death charts - Does anyone have some death charts of people who are reasonably likely to have attained moksha? Does anyone have the death time for Mahatma Gandhiji? Thank you, Samir , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > I'm sorry, but I ignore some posts if the questions have been answered > before, or I when I feel that I can answer the querries through other means. > Some very basic posts I hope some of my students will answer, so that I can > focus on the more indepth topics. > > > > This principle about the karakamsa and the AK is not certain. Your AK is > chosen based on something you did in the previous birth, which required that > you learn the lessons of Jupiter. Now if you do not learn those lessons and > continue to perform the same mistakes, then who is to say that you will get > a new AK? Maybe you have had Jupiter as AK for several births. > > But we can say that the tendency in the person is very strongly indicated by > the sign of the karakamsa and the planets in it. > > > > We cannot be sure of what the person has done to overcome or increase the > mistakes, until we have seen the prasna chart or the death chart. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > ramesh mishra [aarceemastro2002] > 01 January 2005 15:08 > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha > > > > II Om Namo Narayanaa II > > Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, > > I have Jupiter as AK in virgo sign and it is Vargottam also. Does it mean > that in my next birth Mercury will be AK. What was the cause of Jup being > AK in this birth .Does it mean that Jup. was either in sag. or in pisces in > my past birth.If it is so then Jup was in which sign? How do we find the > sign between Sag. and Pisces.Being Jup AK. my status was very high and I was > blessed with many children in my past life, which is not so in this life. Am > I approaching the correct conclusion ? Kindly show me the path whether I am > correct. > > I have been very eagerly and conciously waiting for your postings.I sent two > postings before this but none of them is replied. Please reply this one. If > there is anything wrong in my postings, kindly correct me. > > Thanks and regards, > > Ramesh Mishra > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit@s...> wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Visti, Namaskar, > > > > I have not only Mars as AK, but Mars happens to be in Scorpio Navamsa. So I > would be having Mars again as my AK. What I understand is that Mars in > Scorpio can give me troubles from creatures ruled by Scorpio or from some > other Scorpio significations. But from my side, I am as cool as ice water… > no one can say I have Mars as AK :-). > > > > Regards > > Sarajit > > > > > _____ > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > Friday, December 31, 2004 4:35 AM > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > Simply brilliant! You got it! > > If Mars is AK then you beat everyone up and could not control your temper… > maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio or Aries in the past life. So in this > life Mars will punish you and make everyone angry with you until you one day > learn to give in and stop fighting. > > Point is that what about the AK in your next life? This will be indicated by > the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer as the sign, so if I don't watch out I may > be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why Jaimini and Paraçara where not > concerned about the AK-planets indications but only the Ak-signs. > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... _____ > > > Maja [vakelim] > 30 December 2004 21:29 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha > > > > > Dear Guru Visti, > > Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I have one question on > subject you mentioned: > > > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will show how you tend to affect others > in this > > birth. If you do something wrong you will suffer from this in a > next birth. > > So the sign shows the actions you do in this birth whilst the > planet shows > > what you did in the last. > > > > > -while reading some other explainings on role of AK,I understood it > usualy being conected in sense-"what one should do,must to" in order > to keep on right direction in this life. > But does this always come like one took something of wrong way on > graha indicating AK before? for example > -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean violent before,Me- must be > truthful,but did oposit before? > or how else to understand that :> what you did in the last > > Regards > Maja ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com <http://www.nod32.com/> > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > <http://in.rd./specials/mailtg/*http:/.shaadi.com/india- matrim > ony/> India Matrimony: Find your life partner online > <http://in.rd./specials/mailtg2/*http:/.shaadi.com/india -matri > mony/> . > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > _____ > > Links > > * > / > > * > > <? subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Samir, Namaskar Here it is: Gandhi, Mahatma Punya Natal Chart Date: January 30, 1948 Time: 18:00:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" Delhi, India I don’t think he got moksha. But he was a fine politician! Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">ray_of_solaris [a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk] 03 January 2005 05:52 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha - Death Charts 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Namaskar, On the topic of death charts - Does anyone have some death charts of people who are reasonably likely to have attained moksha? Does anyone have the death time for Mahatma Gandhiji? Thank you, Samir , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > I'm sorry, but I ignore some posts if the questions have been answered > before, or I when I feel that I can answer the querries through other means. > Some very basic posts I hope some of my students will answer, so that I can > focus on the more indepth topics. > > > > This principle about the karakamsa and the AK is not certain. Your AK is > chosen based on something you did in the previous birth, which required that > you learn the lessons of Jupiter. Now if you do not learn those lessons and > continue to perform the same mistakes, then who is to say that you will get > a new AK? Maybe you have had Jupiter as AK for several births. > > But we can say that the tendency in the person is very strongly indicated by > the sign of the karakamsa and the planets in it. > > > > We cannot be sure of what the person has done to overcome or increase the > mistakes, until we have seen the prasna chart or the death chart. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > ramesh mishra [aarceemastro2002] > 01 January 2005 15:08 > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha > > > > II Om Namo Narayanaa II > > Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, > > I have Jupiter as AK in virgo sign and it is Vargottam also. Does it mean > that in my next birth Mercury will be AK. What was the cause of Jup being > AK in this birth .Does it mean that Jup. was either in sag. or in pisces in > my past birth.If it is so then Jup was in which sign? How do we find the > sign between Sag. and Pisces.Being Jup AK. my status was very high and I was > blessed with many children in my past life, which is not so in this life. Am > I approaching the correct conclusion ? Kindly show me the path whether I am > correct. > > I have been very eagerly and conciously waiting for your postings.I sent two > postings before this but none of them is replied. Please reply this one. If > there is anything wrong in my postings, kindly correct me. > > Thanks and regards, > > Ramesh Mishra > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit@s...> wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Visti, Namaskar, > > > > I have not only Mars as AK, but Mars happens to be in Scorpio Navamsa. So I > would be having Mars again as my AK. What I understand is that Mars in > Scorpio can give me troubles from creatures ruled by Scorpio or from some > other Scorpio significations. But from my side, I am as cool as ice water… > no one can say I have Mars as AK :-). > > > > Regards > > Sarajit > > > > > _____ > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > Friday, December 31, 2004 4:35 AM > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > Simply brilliant! You got it! > > If Mars is AK then you beat everyone up and could not control your temper… > maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio or Aries in the past life. So in this > life Mars will punish you and make everyone angry with you until you one day > learn to give in and stop fighting. > > Point is that what about the AK in your next life? This will be indicated by > the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer as the sign, so if I don't watch out I may > be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why Jaimini and Paraçara where not > concerned about the AK-planets indications but only the Ak-signs. > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > _____ > > > Maja [vakelim] > 30 December 2004 21:29 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha > > > > > Dear Guru Visti, > > Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I have one question on > subject you mentioned: > > > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will show how you tend to affect others > in this > > birth. If you do something wrong you will suffer from this in a > next birth. > > So the sign shows the actions you do in this birth whilst the > planet shows > > what you did in the last. > > > > > -while reading some other explainings on role of AK,I understood it > usualy being conected in sense-"what one should do,must to" in order > to keep on right direction in this life. > But does this always come like one took something of wrong way on > graha indicating AK before? for example > -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean violent before,Me- must be > truthful,but did oposit before? > or how else to understand that :> what you did in the last > > Regards > Maja > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com <http://www.nod32.com/> > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > <http://in.rd./specials/mailtg/*http:/.shaadi.com/india- matrim > ony/> India Matrimony: Find your life partner online > <http://in.rd./specials/mailtg2/*http:/.shaadi.com/india -matri > mony/> . > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > _____ > > Links > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > / > > * To from this group, send an email to: > > <? subject=Un> > > * Your use of is subject to the > <> Terms of Service. > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Dear Vistji, Namaskar, Thanks for that! The reason I asked was because I've read quite a few different opinions - with some people contesting that he did get moksha (not based on death charts though). In any case it will be interesting comparing it to the birth chart. Best wishes, Samir , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > Here it is: > > > > Gandhi, Mahatma Punya > > Natal Chart > > January 30, 1948 > > Time: 18:00:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" > > Delhi, India > > > > I don't think he got moksha. But he was a fine politician! > > Best wishes, > > > > > Visti Larsen > > http://srigaruda.com > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____ > > ray_of_solaris [a48919062] > 03 January 2005 05:52 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha - Death Charts > > > > > Namaskar, > > On the topic of death charts - Does anyone have some death charts of > people who are reasonably likely to have attained moksha? Does > anyone have the death time for Mahatma Gandhiji? > > Thank you, > > Samir > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > > > I'm sorry, but I ignore some posts if the questions have been > answered > > before, or I when I feel that I can answer the querries through > other means. > > Some very basic posts I hope some of my students will answer, so > that I can > > focus on the more indepth topics. > > > > > > > > This principle about the karakamsa and the AK is not certain. Your > AK is > > chosen based on something you did in the previous birth, which > required that > > you learn the lessons of Jupiter. Now if you do not learn those > lessons and > > continue to perform the same mistakes, then who is to say that you > will get > > a new AK? Maybe you have had Jupiter as AK for several births. > > > > But we can say that the tendency in the person is very strongly > indicated by > > the sign of the karakamsa and the planets in it. > > > > > > > > We cannot be sure of what the person has done to overcome or > increase the > > mistakes, until we have seen the prasna chart or the death chart. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > http://srigaruda.com > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ramesh mishra [aarceemastro2002] > > 01 January 2005 15:08 > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha > > > > > > > > II Om Namo Narayanaa II > > > > Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, > > > > I have Jupiter as AK in virgo sign and it is Vargottam also. Does > it mean > > that in my next birth Mercury will be AK. What was the cause of > Jup being > > AK in this birth .Does it mean that Jup. was either in sag. or in > pisces in > > my past birth.If it is so then Jup was in which sign? How do we > find the > > sign between Sag. and Pisces.Being Jup AK. my status was very high > and I was > > blessed with many children in my past life, which is not so in this > life. Am > > I approaching the correct conclusion ? Kindly show me the path > whether I am > > correct. > > > > I have been very eagerly and conciously waiting for your postings.I > sent two > > postings before this but none of them is replied. Please reply this > one. If > > there is anything wrong in my postings, kindly correct me. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit@s...> wrote: > > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > Dear Visti, Namaskar, > > > > > > > > I have not only Mars as AK, but Mars happens to be in Scorpio > Navamsa. So I > > would be having Mars again as my AK. What I understand is that Mars > in > > Scorpio can give me troubles from creatures ruled by Scorpio or > from some > > other Scorpio significations. But from my side, I am as cool as ice > water… > > no one can say I have Mars as AK :-). > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > > Friday, December 31, 2004 4:35 AM > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > Simply brilliant! You got it! > > > > If Mars is AK then you beat everyone up and could not control your > temper… > > maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio or Aries in the past life. So > in this > > life Mars will punish you and make everyone angry with you until > you one day > > learn to give in and stop fighting. > > > > Point is that what about the AK in your next life? This will be > indicated by > > the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer as the sign, so if I don't watch > out I may > > be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why Jaimini and Paraçara where > not > > concerned about the AK-planets indications but only the Ak-signs. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com > > > > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Maja [vakelim] > > 30 December 2004 21:29 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guru Visti, > > > > Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I have one question on > > subject you mentioned: > > > > > > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will show how you tend to affect > others > > in this > > > birth. If you do something wrong you will suffer from this in a > > next birth. > > > So the sign shows the actions you do in this birth whilst the > > planet shows > > > what you did in the last. > > > > > > > > -while reading some other explainings on role of AK,I understood it > > usualy being conected in sense-"what one should do,must to" in > order > > to keep on right direction in this life. > > But does this always come like one took something of wrong way on > > graha indicating AK before? for example > > -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean violent before,Me- must be > > truthful,but did oposit before? > > or how else to understand that :> what you did in the last > > > > Regards > > Maja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.nod32.com <http://www.nod32.com/> > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > <http://in.rd./specials/mailtg/*http:/.shaadi.com/india- > matrim > > ony/> India Matrimony: Find your life partner online > > > <http://in.rd./specials/mailtg2/*http:/.shaadi.com/india > -matri > > mony/> . > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * > > / > > > > * > > > > <? > subject=Un> > > > > * > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > _____ > > Links > > * > / > > * > > <? subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. > > > > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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