Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Dear Ramesh, I beg to offer one example where Saturn as AK has not brought sorrow to the native. Saturn is my AK and Lagna Lord. My life has been pleasant and at age 60 I have few regrets concerning things I have done or would have liked to have done. Even the past 6 years in which I have had cancer (ovarian) have not involved too much suffering and, indeed, have brought much jhappiness, including my introduction to Vedic Astrology. I suspect that having Moon conjoined Saturn and Mars in 4H has allowed me to accept the good and bad with a certain amount of detachment and has not given me a worrying nature at all. I do feel most sorry for Saturn who is so feared. He is only doing his job and in my case he gave me careers which served the public and the most recent - helping the poor, uneducated and disadvantaged to get an education. This has given me much joy rather than sorrow. Love, Gili >ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 > > >Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha >Tue, 4 Jan 2005 06:33:28 +0000 (GMT) > >Om Namo Narayanaya, >Dear Karu, Namaskar, >I am really grateful to you for giving me reply. Actually I have to learn >a lot from you people. As you said AK of malefice planets gives malefic >opportunities or interest according to their malefic nature. Suppose AK of >benefic planet is aspected by malefic planets may be one ,two or more >planets then how this AK will react due to aspect or conjuction.The nature >will be same or will there be any changes in his nature. In my horoscope >Jup is AK in 2nd house in virgo conjunct with Mars and aspected by Sat and >Rahu from 12th and 10th house respectively.What should be the character of >Jup. in this case.Waiting for the early response.Thanks once again and >best wishes. >Ramesh Mishra > >Karu <heen wrote: >OM NAMO NARAYANAYA >Dear Ramesh, > >Our true nature is AK and always looking forward to loose the independent >existence and merge with Paramatma. The only way is giving up and AK gives >us opportunity and lessons to practice it. >If AK is malefic planet like Rahu, Saturn, Mars, he will be tested >according to the nature of the planet. One may have to see only "sorrow " >in this life if the Saturn is AK, "violence" if the "Mars" or will be >cheated if the Rahu is AK. He must have to undergo so much such experiences >in the dasa of AK, and the closeness to the God is depending on how the >mind re-act towards experiences. This experience and reactions of mind is >called suffering and we know it is also a state of mind or illutionery >concepts. One who accept the truth, shall not suffer, but give up or >surrender. > >The ties shall exist untill we pay off our debd, and the best way to >understand the easy way out is AK and it's placement. Liberation is primer >goal of the Atma but we cannot think about liberation as internally, in >Atma level we have some secondary goals too, such as become the prime >ministor, become a rich man or meet same girl friend again etc. This become >our Dharma and this can be fullfiled through Dharma Devata. Having >fullfilled secondary goals, we pray for Ishta Devata for show us the best >path for liberation. In between, Karma Yoga is reccomended. > >Benefices still give lessons but may not harsh. You may read AK lesson in >Gurujis web. >Best Wishes >Karu > >Dear Sarajit,Namaskar, >What are the directives of AK of different planets. In my horoscope Jup is >AK and vargottam too.At present MD of Jup is running. Will you mind to tell >me about the directives? >Regards. >Ramesh Mishra > >Sarajit Poddar <sarajit wrote: > > >v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}w\:* >{ BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}.shape { BEHAVIOR: >url(#default#VML)}st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } >|| Jaya Jagannath || > >Dear Karu, > > > >AK is the primary ruler of a person and his horoscope and that’s why it is >called the King of the horoscope. Now the person is not only described by >the Lagna but also the Atkamaraka too. It is however important to note that >whatever negative the AK shows, the person has to suffer and the premise >that the person suffers only when the person does not follow the directives >of the AK. > > > >The bottom-line is that many Mars AK people do display a lot of Martial >trait. However, more they show Martian trait, more would they suffer. > > > >Best Wishes > >Sarajit > > > > > > >Karu [heen] >Sunday, January 02, 2005 7:57 PM > >Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha > > > > >OM NAMO NARAYANAYA > > >Dear Sarajit, Namaskar > > >In my AK Mars Vimsottari Dasa, I experianced so much unknown anger of my >mates and reasons were unknown.. Even now, I am dealing very carefully as >some how I fail at most of the time. Later I found the answer. Surrender to >AK ! > > >My AK is in Virgo in D9, but I am not cool. Still learning. > > >I think our attitudes towards our experience has nothing to do with AK, But >Moon who experience all these problems. I was thinking about this, when I >see your mail. That is why I asked it. > > > > > >BTW 13 members were attended today , and most have presented their papers >and mailed to me the whole lot. If I find good works, I will let you know. > > >Thanks > > >Karu > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > >Sarajit Poddar > > > > > >Sunday, January 02, 2005 8:59 PM > > >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha > > > > > >|| Jaya Jagannath || >Dear Karu, Namaskar, > > > >Never knew that my statement could be interpreted like that. I just had a >good laugh…J. I meant that by nature I am a cool person and not an >aggressive sort. > > > >Best Wishes > >Sarajit > > > > > > >Karu [heen] >Sunday, January 02, 2005 3:03 PM > >Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha > > > > >OM NAMO NARAYANAYA > > >Dear Sarajit, > > >You mean your Atma is cool ? Or your attitude towards experience of Atma is >cool ? > > >Karu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > >Sarajit Poddar > > > > > >Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:36 AM > > >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha > > > > > >|| Jaya Jagannath || >Dear Visti, Namaskar, > > > >I have not only Mars as AK, but Mars happens to be in Scorpio Navamsa. So I >would be having Mars again as my AK. What I understand is that Mars in >Scorpio can give me troubles from creatures ruled by Scorpio or from some >other Scorpio significations. But from my side, I am as cool as ice water… >no one can say I have Mars as AK J. > > > >Regards > >Sarajit > > > > > > >Visti Larsen [visti] >Friday, December 31, 2004 4:35 AM > >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha > > > > >||Hare Rama Krsna|| > >Dear Maja, Namaskar > >Simply brilliant! You got it! > >If Mars is AK then you beat everyone up and could not control your temper… >maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio or Aries in the past life. So in this >life Mars will punish you and make everyone angry with you until you one >day learn to give in and stop fighting. > >Point is that what about the AK in your next life? This will be indicated >by the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer as the sign, so if I don’t watch out I >may be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why Jaimini and Paraçara where not >concerned about the AK-planets indications but only the Ak-signs. > >Best wishes, > > > > >Visti Larsen > >http://srigaruda.com > >visti > > > > > > > > >Maja [vakelim] >30 December 2004 21:29 > >Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha > > > > > >Dear Guru Visti, > >Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I have one question on >subject you mentioned: > > > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will show how you tend to affect others >in this > > birth. If you do something wrong you will suffer from this in a >next birth. > > So the sign shows the actions you do in this birth whilst the >planet shows > > what you did in the last. > > > > >-while reading some other explainings on role of AK,I understood it >usualy being conected in sense-"what one should do,must to" in order >to keep on right direction in this life. >But does this always come like one took something of wrong way on >graha indicating AK before? for example >-Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean violent before,Me- must be >truthful,but did oposit before? >or how else to understand that :> what you did in the last > >Regards >Maja > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the >human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > >/ > > > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. 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