Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Dear Visti and all, First let me assure all that I have no doubt of the truthfulness of Vedic Astrology. If there are limitations they are surely due to the imperfections of humanity. My query is an honest one. Should we be able to find some similarities in the charts of the vast number of our brothers and sisters who die together in war or natural disaster? Love, Gili >"Visti Larsen" <visti > ><> >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness >Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:04:40 +0100 > >|| Hare Rama Krsna|| >Dear Gili, Namaskar >The 3rd and 8th houses from AL show the way you will exit the world, i.e. >the way you may die. This can be through disease if Saturn is in theses >houses, and through accidents/injury if other planets are there, whilst a >peaceful death is caused by benefics. The AL and the 5th from AL should >also >be analyzed the way Jaimini has proposed. >However these positions from AL will try to take the native once or twice, >before the native dies, but will not be succesful until our time has come. >Best wishes, > >Visti Larsen >visti > > > > >gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx] >03 January 2005 20:18 > >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > > >Dear Visti, >Could you please explain the relevance of the 3H from AL in the context of >illness. >Love, >Gili > > >"Visti Larsen" <visti > > > ><> > >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > >Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:47:37 +0100 > > > >||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > >Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > >Comments below. Good questions. > > > >Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > >Visti Larsen > > > >http://srigaruda.com > > > > <visti visti > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > >ray_of_solaris [a48919062] > >27 December 2004 10:25 > > > >[Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > > > > > > > > > >Namaskar, > > > >I have some questions regarding health issues. Apart from the > >specific combinations mentioned in the various classics, I understand > >that illness can be looked at from 6H from Lagna, Sun, and Moon, and > >also 6L for the same. 8H can also have a role. > > > > > > > >[Visti] The following is what I was taught and it works well in my > >experience. > > > >No, the 6th from the Sun (soul) and the Moon (mind) are not looked at in > >this regard. We are concerned with the body, and hence the Lagna. >Besides, > >the houses from the Sun and Moon have a different connotation, i.e. > >benefics > >in the 6th from Moon are very good for wealth, whilst Jätaka Parijata >gives > >mention of the 6th from Sun being auspicious for the native. This is a > >different story. > > > > > > > >The 6th house from the Lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we > >suffer from due to weaknesses, otherwise known as sins (6 sins known as > >shadripu). > > > >The 8th house from the lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we > >suffer from due to bad (dushta) karma done in the past life – notice the > >difference between bad karma vs. sins here. > > > > > > > >So from the 6th house we can see the short term ailments which bother us. > > > >From the 8th house we see chronic long term ailments. > > > > > > > >In addition to this we also analyze the Bädhak Sthäna and the 2nd house. > >These two we can focus on later. > > > > > >Now, each Rasi represents a different region of the body – so > >depending on which Rasi is 6H for a chart, that region of the body > >may be susceptible to disease, correct? > > > > > > > >[Visti] There are 2 major ways to reckon body parts. 1) from the > >kalapurusha > >treating Aries as lagna. > > > >2) Dividing each house into 3 parts of upper, middle and lower part of >the > >body and each of the houses being assigned to each of these 3 parts. > > > > > > > >#1 is used with regards to the 8th house or lord. i.e. if 8th lord is in > >Sagittarius, then problems in the thieghs or knees can occur. > > > >#2 is used with respect to the 6th lords placement – unless 8th lord is > >joined it. > > > > > > > >Now Parasara further details this by saying: if 6th lord is in 6th, 1st >or > >8th, then the sign of the 6th house will indicate the place of the ulcer > >(injury). > > > > > > > >There is a 3rd method given by Jaimini, but for now stick to the above. > > > > > >Does the placement of 6H lord also indicate something similar? i.e, > >if it is placed in a particular Rasi, can it affect the body regions > >governed by that Rasi (negatively if the Rasi is owned by an enemy)? > >Or will it affect the body part represented by that particular > >house? Is there a distinction between when the houses are used (as > >far as body parts goes) and when the rasi is used? > > > > > > > >[Visti] I have answered these queries in the previous paragraph. > > > >I will add that in case of both the 2 methods above, to identify whether > >the > >injury is internal or external, the principle of the kaulukas is taken >into > >account – this you can read from Jaimini. > > > > > >Thank you, > > > >Samir > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ > >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > >human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading >today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > ><http://us.ard./SIG=12940ai83/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=g >r > >oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1104234265/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/comp >a > >nion.> click here > > > > > > > ><http://us.adserver./l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S >= > >:HM/A=2128215/rand=337161262> > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > >* > >/ > > > >* > > > ><?subject=Un> > > > >* > ><> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > >__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the >human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Links > > > > > > > > > > >__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.nod32.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 || Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Gili, Namaskar With all due respect. Moon causes death due to drowning. But not all of them drowned. May their souls rest in peace. Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx] 05 January 2005 20:43 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) Dear Visti and all, First let me assure all that I have no doubt of the truthfulness of Vedic Astrology. If there are limitations they are surely due to the imperfections of humanity. My query is an honest one. Should we be able to find some similarities in the charts of the vast number of our brothers and sisters who die together in war or natural disaster? Love, Gili >"Visti Larsen" <visti > ><> >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness >Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:04:40 +0100 > >|| Hare Rama Krsna|| >Dear Gili, Namaskar >The 3rd and 8th houses from AL show the way you will exit the world, i.e. >the way you may die. This can be through disease if Saturn is in theses >houses, and through accidents/injury if other planets are there, whilst a >peaceful death is caused by benefics. The AL and the 5th from AL should >also >be analyzed the way Jaimini has proposed. >However these positions from AL will try to take the native once or twice, >before the native dies, but will not be succesful until our time has come. >Best wishes, > >Visti Larsen >visti > > > > >gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx] >03 January 2005 20:18 > >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > > >Dear Visti, >Could you please explain the relevance of the 3H from AL in the context of >illness. >Love, >Gili > > >"Visti Larsen" <visti > > > ><> > >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > >Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:47:37 +0100 > > > >||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > >Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > >Comments below. Good questions. > > > >Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > >Visti Larsen > > > >http://srigaruda.com > > > > <visti visti > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > >ray_of_solaris [a48919062] > >27 December 2004 10:25 > > > >[Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > > > > > > > > > >Namaskar, > > > >I have some questions regarding health issues. Apart from the > >specific combinations mentioned in the various classics, I understand > >that illness can be looked at from 6H from Lagna, Sun, and Moon, and > >also 6L for the same. 8H can also have a role. > > > > > > > >[Visti] The following is what I was taught and it works well in my > >experience. > > > >No, the 6th from the Sun (soul) and the Moon (mind) are not looked at in > >this regard. We are concerned with the body, and hence the Lagna. >Besides, > >the houses from the Sun and Moon have a different connotation, i.e. > >benefics > >in the 6th from Moon are very good for wealth, whilst Jätaka Parijata >gives > >mention of the 6th from Sun being auspicious for the native. This is a > >different story. > > > > > > > >The 6th house from the Lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we > >suffer from due to weaknesses, otherwise known as sins (6 sins known as > >shadripu). > > > >The 8th house from the lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we > >suffer from due to bad (dushta) karma done in the past life – notice the > >difference between bad karma vs. sins here. > > > > > > > >So from the 6th house we can see the short term ailments which bother us. > > > >From the 8th house we see chronic long term ailments. > > > > > > > >In addition to this we also analyze the Bädhak Sthäna and the 2nd house. > >These two we can focus on later. > > > > > >Now, each Rasi represents a different region of the body – so > >depending on which Rasi is 6H for a chart, that region of the body > >may be susceptible to disease, correct? > > > > > > > >[Visti] There are 2 major ways to reckon body parts. 1) from the > >kalapurusha > >treating Aries as lagna. > > > >2) Dividing each house into 3 parts of upper, middle and lower part of >the > >body and each of the houses being assigned to each of these 3 parts. > > > > > > > >#1 is used with regards to the 8th house or lord. i.e. if 8th lord is in > >Sagittarius, then problems in the thieghs or knees can occur. > > > >#2 is used with respect to the 6th lords placement – unless 8th lord is > >joined it. > > > > > > > >Now Parasara further details this by saying: if 6th lord is in 6th, 1st >or > >8th, then the sign of the 6th house will indicate the place of the ulcer > >(injury). > > > > > > > >There is a 3rd method given by Jaimini, but for now stick to the above. > > > > > >Does the placement of 6H lord also indicate something similar? i.e, > >if it is placed in a particular Rasi, can it affect the body regions > >governed by that Rasi (negatively if the Rasi is owned by an enemy)? > >Or will it affect the body part represented by that particular > >house? Is there a distinction between when the houses are used (as > >far as body parts goes) and when the rasi is used? > > > > > > > >[Visti] I have answered these queries in the previous paragraph. > > > >I will add that in case of both the 2 methods above, to identify whether > >the > >injury is internal or external, the principle of the kaulukas is taken >into > >account – this you can read from Jaimini. > > > > > >Thank you, > > > >Samir > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ > >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > >human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading >today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > ><http://us.ard./SIG=12940ai83/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=g >r > >oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1104234265/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/comp >a > >nion.> click here > > > > > > > ><http://us.adserver./l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S >= > >:HM/A=2128215/rand=337161262> > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > >* > >/ > > > >* > > > ><?subject=Un> > > > >* > ><> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > >__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the >human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Links > > > > > > > > > > >__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.nod32.com > > ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, My AL is in 11th House in Gemini and third from it is Leo housed with two watery planets viz. Moon and Venus .My LL Sun is conjoined with marak Sat in 12th house which is also a watery rasi.It is definite that my death is surely by drowning. This is the reason that I do not know how to swim.Once during my childwhood I escaped from drowning while I was washing my hands to a swimming pool.Now the question is when the situation and circumstances will arise to my drowning at the time of death.My current dasa is also running something like that i.e.Jup(MD),8th lord placed in 2nd a marak sthan and aspected by another marak Sat from 12th house and AD is of Merc 2nd lord placed and conjunct with LL Sun and 7L Sat. Thus Jup-Merc is up to 15 Jan 2007.Now it depends upon PD and sukshma dasa and transit which I do not want to see. Am I correct Visti Ji. Pls. do not hesitate to comment on my own readings. Regards Ramesh Mishra Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Hare Rama Krsna||Dear Gili, NamaskarWith all due respect.Moon causes death due to drowning. But not all of them drowned. May theirsouls rest in peace.Best wishes,Visti Larsenvisti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx (AT) hotmail (DOT) com] 05 January 2005 20:43To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL)Dear Visti and all,First let me assure all that I have no doubt of the truthfulness of Vedic Astrology. If there are limitations they are surely due to the imperfections of humanity.My query is an honest one. Should we be able to find some similarities in the charts of the vast number of our brothers and sisters who die together in war or natural disaster?Love,Gili>"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org>> ><>>RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness>Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:04:40 +0100>>|| Hare Rama Krsna||>Dear Gili, Namaskar>The 3rd and 8th houses from AL show the way you will exit the world, i.e.>the way you may die. This can be through disease if Saturn is in theses>houses, and through accidents/injury if other planets are there, whilst a>peaceful death is caused by benefics. The AL and the 5th from AL should >also>be analyzed the way Jaimini has proposed.>However these positions from AL will try to take the native once or twice,>before the native dies, but will not be succesful until our time has come.>Best wishes,>>Visti Larsen>visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>>>>>gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]>03 January 2005 20:18>To: >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness>>>Dear Visti,>Could you please explain the relevance of the 3H from AL in the context of>illness.>Love,>Gili>> >"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org>> >> >To: <>> >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness> >Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:47:37 +0100> >> >||Hare Rama Krsna||> >> >Dear Samir, Namaskar> >> >Comments below. Good questions.> >> >Best wishes,> >> >> >> >> >Visti Larsen> >> >http://srigaruda.com> >> > <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >> >> >> >> >> > _____> >> >ray_of_solaris [a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk]> >27 December 2004 10:25> >To: > >[Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness> >> >> >> >> >Namaskar,> >> >I have some questions regarding health issues. Apart from the> >specific combinations mentioned in the various classics, I understand> >that illness can be looked at from 6H from Lagna, Sun, and Moon, and> >also 6L for the same. 8H can also have a role.> >> >> >> >[Visti] The following is what I was taught and it works well in my> >experience.> >> >No, the 6th from the Sun (soul) and the Moon (mind) are not looked at in> >this regard. We are concerned with the body, and hence the Lagna. >Besides,> >the houses from the Sun and Moon have a different connotation, i.e.> >benefics> >in the 6th from Moon are very good for wealth, whilst Jätaka Parijata >gives> >mention of the 6th from Sun being auspicious for the native. This is a> >different story.> >> >> >> >The 6th house from the Lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we> >suffer from due to weaknesses, otherwise known as sins (6 sins known as> >shadripu).> >> >The 8th house from the lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we> >suffer from due to bad (dushta) karma done in the past life – notice the> >difference between bad karma vs. sins here.> >> >> >> >So from the 6th house we can see the short term ailments which bother us.> >> >From the 8th house we see chronic long term ailments.> >> >> >> >In addition to this we also analyze the Bädhak Sthäna and the 2nd house.> >These two we can focus on later.> >> >> >Now, each Rasi represents a different region of the body – so> >depending on which Rasi is 6H for a chart, that region of the body> >may be susceptible to disease, correct?> >> >> >> >[Visti] There are 2 major ways to reckon body parts. 1) from the> >kalapurusha> >treating Aries as lagna.> >> >2) Dividing each house into 3 parts of upper, middle and lower part of >the> >body and each of the houses being assigned to each of these 3 parts.> >> >> >> >#1 is used with regards to the 8th house or lord. i.e. if 8th lord is in> >Sagittarius, then problems in the thieghs or knees can occur.> >> >#2 is used with respect to the 6th lords placement – unless 8th lord is> >joined it.> >> >> >> >Now Parasara further details this by saying: if 6th lord is in 6th, 1st >or> >8th, then the sign of the 6th house will indicate the place of the ulcer> >(injury).> >> >> >> >There is a 3rd method given by Jaimini, but for now stick to the above.> >> >> >Does the placement of 6H lord also indicate something similar? i.e,> >if it is placed in a particular Rasi, can it affect the body regions> >governed by that Rasi (negatively if the Rasi is owned by an enemy)?> >Or will it affect the body part represented by that particular> >house? Is there a distinction between when the houses are used (as> >far as body parts goes) and when the rasi is used?> >> >> >> >[Visti] I have answered these queries in the previous paragraph.> >> >I will add that in case of both the 2 methods above, to identify whether> >the> >injury is internal or external, the principle of the kaulukas is taken >into> >account – this you can read from Jaimini.> >> >> >Thank you,> >> >Samir> >> >> >> >> >> >> >~ om tat sat ~> >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> >human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading >today> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Groups Sponsor> >> >> >> >> >>><http://us.ard./SIG=12940ai83/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=g>r>>oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1104234265/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/comp>a> >nion.> click here> >> >> >>><http://us.adserver./l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S>=> >:HM/A=2128215/rand=337161262>> >> >> >> > _____> >> > Links> >> >* To visit your group on the web, go to:> >/> >> >* To from this group, send an email to:> >> ><?subject=Un>> >> >* > ><> Terms of Service.> >> >> >> >__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________> >> >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.> >http://www.nod32.com> >>>>>>>~ om tat sat ~>Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.>Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'>(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the>human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.>(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today> Links>>>>>>>>>>>__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.>http://www.nod32.com>>~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar You need to check your longevity and see if it fits with that period. Shoola Dasa is excellent for timing. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">ramesh mishra [aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in] 06 January 2005 10:57 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) 12.0pt"> Om Namo Narayanaya, 12.0pt">Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, 12.0pt">My AL is in 11th House in Gemini and third from it is Leo housed with two watery planets viz. Moon and Venus .My LL Sun is conjoined with marak Sat in 12th house which is also a watery rasi.It is definite that my death is surely by drowning. This is the reason that I do not know how to swim.Once during my childwhood I escaped from drowning while I was washing my hands to a swimming pool.Now the question is when the situation and circumstances will arise to my drowning at the time of death.My current dasa is also running something like that i.e.Jup(MD),8th lord placed in 2nd a marak sthan and aspected by another marak Sat from 12th house and AD is of Merc 2nd lord placed and conjunct with LL Sun and 7L Sat. Thus Jup-Merc is up to 15 Jan 2007.Now it depends upon PD and sukshma dasa and transit which I do not want to see. Am I correct Visti Ji. Pls. do not hesitate to comment on my own readings. 12.0pt">Regards 12.0pt">Ramesh Mishra Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> || Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Gili, Namaskar With all due respect. Moon causes death due to drowning. But not all of them drowned. May their souls rest in peace. Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx (AT) hotmail (DOT) com] 05 January 2005 20:43 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) Dear Visti and all, First let me assure all that I have no doubt of the truthfulness of Vedic Astrology. If there are limitations they are surely due to the imperfections of humanity. My query is an honest one. Should we be able to find some similarities in the charts of the vast number of our brothers and sisters who die together in war or natural disaster? Love, Gili >"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org> > ><> >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness >Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:04:40 +0100 > >|| Hare Rama Krsna|| >Dear Gili, Namaskar >The 3rd and 8th houses from AL show the way you will exit the world, i.e. >the way you may die. This can be through disease if Saturn is in theses >houses, and through accidents/injury if other planets are there, whilst a >peaceful death is caused by benefics. The AL and the 5th from AL should >also >be analyzed the way Jaimini has proposed. >However these positions from AL will try to take the native once or twice, >before the native dies, but will not be succesful until our time has come. >Best wishes, > >Visti Larsen >visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > >gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx (AT) hotmail (DOT) com] >03 January 2005 20:18 > >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > > >Dear Visti, >Could you please explain the relevance of the 3H from AL in the context of >illness. >Love, >Gili > > >"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org> > > > ><> > >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > >Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:47:37 +0100 > > > >||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > >Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > >Comments below. Good questions. > > > >Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > >Visti Larsen > > > >http://srigaruda.com > > > > <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > >ray_of_solaris [a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk] > >27 December 2004 10:25 > > > >[Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > > > > > > > > > >Namaskar, > > > >I have some questions regarding health issues. Apart from the > >specific combinations mentioned in the various classics, I understand > >that illness can be looked at from 6H from Lagna, Sun, and Moon, and > >also 6L for the same. 8H can also have a role. > > > > > > > >[Visti] The following is what I was taught and it works well in my > >experience. > > > >No, the 6th from the Sun (soul) and the Moon (mind) are not looked at in > >this regard. We are concerned with the body, and hence the Lagna. >Besides, > >the houses from the Sun and Moon have a different connotation, i.e. > >benefics > >in the 6th from Moon are very good for wealth, whilst Jätaka Parijata >gives > >mention of the 6th from Sun being auspicious for the native. This is a > >different story. > > > > > > > >The 6th house from the Lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we > >suffer from due to weaknesses, otherwise known as sins (6 sins known as > >shadripu). > > > >The 8th house from the lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we > >suffer from due to bad (dushta) karma done in the past life – notice the > >difference between bad karma vs. sins here. > > > > > > > >So from the 6th house we can see the short term ailments which bother us. > > > >From the 8th house we see chronic long term ailments. > > > > > > > >In addition to this we also analyze the Bädhak Sthäna and the 2nd house. > >These two we can focus on later. > > > > > >Now, each Rasi represents a different region of the body – so > >depending on which Rasi is 6H for a chart, that region of the body > >may be susceptible to disease, correct? > > > > > > > >[Visti] There are 2 major ways to reckon body parts. 1) from the > >kalapurusha > >treating Aries as lagna. > > > >2) Dividing each house into 3 parts of upper, middle and lower part of >the > >body and each of the houses being assigned to each of these 3 parts. > > > > > > > >#1 is used with regards to the 8th house or lord. i.e. if 8th lord is in > >Sagittarius, then problems in the thieghs or knees can occur. > > > >#2 is used with respect to the 6th lords placement – unless 8th lord is > >joined it. > > > > > > > >Now Parasara further details this by saying: if 6th lord is in 6th, 1st >or > >8th, then the sign of the 6th house will indicate the place of the ulcer > >(injury). > > > > > > > >There is a 3rd method given by Jaimini, but for now stick to the above. > > > > > >Does the placement of 6H lord also indicate something similar? i.e, > >if it is placed in a particular Rasi, can it affect the body regions > >governed by that Rasi (negatively if the Rasi is owned by an enemy)? > >Or will it affect the body part represented by that particular > >house? Is there a distinction between when the houses are used (as > >far as body parts goes) and when the rasi is used? > > > > > > > >[Visti] I have answered these queries in the previous paragraph. > > > >I will add that in case of both the 2 methods above, to identify whether > >the > >injury is internal or external, the principle of the kaulukas is taken >into > >account – this you can read from Jaimini. > > > > > >Thank you, > > > >Samir > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ > >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > >human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading >today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > ><http://us.ard./SIG=12940ai83/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=g >r > >oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1104234265/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/comp >a > >nion.> click here > > > > > > > ><http://us.adserver./l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S >= > >:HM/A=2128215/rand=337161262> > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > >* To visit your group on the web, go to: > >/ > > > >* To from this group, send an email to: > > > ><?subject=Un> > > > >* Your use of is subject to the > ><> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > >__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the >human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Links > > > > > > > > > > >__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.nod32.com > > ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, Thanks for early response .Of course checking longevity first is mandatory. But it is certain that I may be involved in desease of something perataining to water element but I am unable to discriminate among the water borne deseases.Planets responsible for desease is MOON, Venus ,Saturn and Marsand bhavas are fifth,eigth ,9th and second. I do not know about Shoola Dasa. I have to read this dasa.Actually I have adopted this science as my hobby and not as a profession. So whenever I get time I attend your postings and try to know something. Regards, Ramesh MishraVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar You need to check your longevity and see if it fits with that period. Shoola Dasa is excellent for timing. Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com ramesh mishra [aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in] 06 January 2005 10:57Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, My AL is in 11th House in Gemini and third from it is Leo housed with two watery planets viz. Moon and Venus .My LL Sun is conjoined with marak Sat in 12th house which is also a watery rasi.It is definite that my death is surely by drowning. This is the reason that I do not know how to swim.Once during my childwhood I escaped from drowning while I was washing my hands to a swimming pool.Now the question is when the situation and circumstances will arise to my drowning at the time of death.My current dasa is also running something like that i.e.Jup(MD),8th lord placed in 2nd a marak sthan and aspected by another marak Sat from 12th house and AD is of Merc 2nd lord placed and conjunct with LL Sun and 7L Sat. Thus Jup-Merc is up to 15 Jan 2007.Now it depends upon PD and sukshma dasa and transit which I do not want to see. Am I correct Visti Ji. Pls. do not hesitate to comment on my own readings. Regards Ramesh Mishra Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Hare Rama Krsna||Dear Gili, NamaskarWith all due respect.Moon causes death due to drowning. But not all of them drowned. May theirsouls rest in peace.Best wishes,Visti Larsenvisti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx (AT) hotmail (DOT) com] 05 January 2005 20:43Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL)Dear Visti and all,First let me assure all that I have no doubt of the truthfulness of Vedic Astrology. If there are limitations they are surely due to the imperfections of humanity.My query is an honest one. Should we be able to find some similarities in the charts of the vast number of our brothers and sisters who die together in war or natural disaster? New">Love,Gili>"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org>> ><>>RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness>Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:04:40 +0100>>|| Hare Rama Krsna||>Dear Gili, Namaskar>The 3rd and 8th houses from AL show the way you will exit the world, i.e.>the way you may die. This can be through disease if Saturn is in theses>houses, and through accidents/injury if other planets are there, whilst a>peaceful death is caused by benefics. The AL and the 5th from AL should >also>be analyzed the way Jaimini has proposed.>However these positions from AL will try to take the native once or twice,>before the native dies, but will not be succesful until our time has come.>Best wishes,>>Visti Larsen>visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>>>>>gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]>03 January 2005 20:18>To: >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness>>>Dear Visti,>Could you please explain the relevance of the 3H from AL in the context of>illness.>Love,>Gili>> >"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org>> >> ><>> >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness> >Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:47:37 +0100> >> >||Hare Rama Krsna||> >> >Dear Samir, Namaskar> >> >Comments below. Good questions.> >> >Best wishes,> >> >> >> >> >Visti Larsen> >> >http://srigaruda.com> >> > <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >> > New">> >> >> >> > _____> >> >ray_of_solaris [a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk]> >27 December 2004 10:25> >To: > >[Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness> >> >> >> >> >Namaskar,> > New">> >I have some questions regarding health issues. Apart from the> >specific combinations mentioned in the various classics, I understand> >that illness can be looked at from 6H from Lagna, Sun, and Moon, and> >also 6L for the same. 8H can also have a role.> >> >> >> >[Visti] The following is what I was taught and it works well in my> >experience.> >> >No, the 6th from the Sun (soul) and the Moon (mind) are not looked at in> >this regard. We are concerned with the body, and hence the Lagna. >Besides,> >the houses from the Sun and Moon have a different connotation, i.e.> >benefics> >in the 6th from Moon are very good for wealth, whilst Jätaka Parijata >gives> >mention of the 6th from Sun being auspicious for the native. This is a> >different story.> >> >> >> >The 6th house from the Lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we> >suffer from due to weaknesses, otherwise known as sins (6 sins known as> >shadripu).> >> >The 8th house from the lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we> >suffer from due to bad (dushta) karma done in the past life – notice the> >difference between bad karma vs. sins here.> >> >> >> >So from the 6th house we can see the short term ailments which bother us.> >> >From the 8th house we see chronic long term ailments.> >> >> >> >In addition to this we also analyze the Bädhak Sthäna and the 2nd house.> >These two we can focus on later.> >> >> >Now, each Rasi represents a different region of the body – so> >depending on which Rasi is 6H for a chart, that region of the body> >may be susceptible to disease, correct?> >> >> >> >[Visti] There are 2 major ways to reckon body parts. 1) from the> >kalapurusha> >treating Aries as lagna.> >> >2) Dividing each house into 3 parts of upper, middle and lower part of >the> >body and each of the houses being assigned to each of these 3 parts.> >> >> >> >#1 is used with regards to the 8th house or lord. i.e. if 8th lord is in> >Sagittarius, then problems in the thieghs or knees can occur.> >> >#2 is used with respect to the 6th lords placement – unless 8th lord is> >joined it.> >> >> >> >Now Parasara further details this by saying: if 6th lord is in 6th, 1st >or> >8th, then the sign of the 6th house will indicate the place of the ulcer> >(injury).> >> >> >> >There is a 3rd method given by Jaimini, but for now stick to the above.> >> >> >Does the placement of 6H lord also indicate something similar? i.e,> >if it is placed in a particular Rasi, can it affect the body regions> >governed by that Rasi (negatively if the Rasi is owned by an enemy)?> >Or will it affect the body part represented by that particular> >house? Is there a distinction between when the houses are used (as> >far as body parts goes) and when the rasi is used? New">> >> >> >> >[Visti] I have answered these queries in the previous paragraph.> >> >I will add that in case of both the 2 methods above, to identify whether> >the> >injury is internal or external, the principle of the kaulukas is taken >into> >account – this you can read from Jaimini.> >> >> >Thank you,> >> >Samir> >> >> >> >> >> >> >~ om tat sat ~> >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> >human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. New">> >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading >today> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Sponsor> >> >> >> >> >>><http://us.ard./SIG=12940ai83/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=g>r>>oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1104234265/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/comp>a> >nion.> click here> >> >> >>><http://us.adserver./l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S New">>=> >:HM/A=2128215/rand=337161262>> >> >> >> > _____> >> > Links> >> >* > >/> >> >* To from this group, send an email to:> >> ><?subject=Un>> >> >* > ><> Terms of Service.> >> >> >> >__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________> >> >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.> >http://www.nod32.com> >>>>>>>~ om tat sat ~>Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.>Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'>(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the>human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.>(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today> Links>>>>>>>>>>>__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.>http://www.nod32.com>>~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar If Saturn associates with the 3rd or 8th from AL, then death from disease can come. Otherwise it is unlikely. The type of disease is a different issue. Well Ramesh, if it was a profession alone, I should start charging for teaching – which I don’t. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">ramesh mishra [aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in] 06 January 2005 14:05 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) 12.0pt"> II Om Namo Narayana II 12.0pt">Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, 12.0pt">Thanks for early response .Of course checking longevity first is mandatory. 12.0pt">But it is certain that I may be involved in desease of something perataining to water element but I am unable to discriminate among the water borne deseases.Planets responsible for desease is MOON, Venus ,Saturn and Mars and bhavas are fifth,eigth ,9th and second. 12.0pt">I do not know about Shoola Dasa. I have to read this dasa.Actually I have adopted this science as my hobby and not as a profession. So whenever I get time I attend your postings and try to know something. 12.0pt">Regards, 12.0pt">Ramesh Mishra Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar You need to check your longevity and see if it fits with that period. Shoola Dasa is excellent for timing. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">ramesh mishra [aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in] 06 January 2005 10:57 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) 12.0pt"> color:#FF007F">Om Namo Narayanaya, 12.0pt">Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, 12.0pt">My AL is in 11th House in Gemini and third from it is Leo housed with two watery planets viz. Moon and Venus .My LL Sun is conjoined with marak Sat in 12th house which is also a watery rasi.It is definite that my death is surely by drowning. This is the reason that I do not know how to swim.Once during my childwhood I escaped from drowning while I was washing my hands to a swimming pool.Now the question is when the situation and circumstances will arise to my drowning at the time of death.My current dasa is also running something like that i.e.Jup(MD),8th lord placed in 2nd a marak sthan and aspected by another marak Sat from 12th house and AD is of Merc 2nd lord placed and conjunct with LL Sun and 7L Sat. Thus Jup-Merc is up to 15 Jan 2007.Now it depends upon PD and sukshma dasa and transit which I do not want to see. Am I correct Visti Ji. Pls. do not hesitate to comment on my own readings. 12.0pt">Regards 12.0pt">Ramesh Mishra Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> || Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Gili, Namaskar With all due respect. Moon causes death due to drowning. But not all of them drowned. May their souls rest in peace. Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx (AT) hotmail (DOT) com] 05 January 2005 20:43 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) Dear Visti and all, First let me assure all that I have no doubt of the truthfulness of Vedic Astrology. If there are limitations they are surely due to the imperfections of humanity. My query is an honest one. Should we be able to find some similarities in the charts of the vast number of our brothers and sisters who die together in war or natural disaster? Love, Gili >"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org> > ><> >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness >Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:04:40 +0100 > >|| Hare Rama Krsna|| >Dear Gili, Namaskar >The 3rd and 8th houses from AL show the way you will exit the world, i.e. >the way you may die. This can be through disease if Saturn is in theses >houses, and through accidents/injury if other planets are there, whilst a >peaceful death is caused by benefics. The AL and the 5th from AL should >also >be analyzed the way Jaimini has proposed. >However these positions from AL will try to take the native once or twice, >before the native dies, but will not be succesful until our time has come. >Best wishes, > >Visti Larsen >visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > >gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx (AT) hotmail (DOT) com] >03 January 2005 20:18 > >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > > >Dear Visti, >Could you please explain the relevance of the 3H from AL in the context of >illness. >Love, >Gili > > >"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org> > > > ><> > >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > >Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:47:37 +0100 > > > >||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > >Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > >Comments below. Good questions. > > > >Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > >Visti Larsen > > > >http://srigaruda.com > > > > <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > >ray_of_solaris [a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk] > >27 December 2004 10:25 > > > >[Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > > > > > > > > > >Namaskar, > > > >I have some questions regarding health issues. Apart from the > >specific combinations mentioned in the various classics, I understand > >that illness can be looked at from 6H from Lagna, Sun, and Moon, and > >also 6L for the same. 8H can also have a role. > > > > > > > >[Visti] The following is what I was taught and it works well in my > >experience. > > > >No, the 6th from the Sun (soul) and the Moon (mind) are not looked at in > >this regard. We are concerned with the body, and hence the Lagna. >Besides, > >the houses from the Sun and Moon have a different connotation, i.e. > >benefics > >in the 6th from Moon are very good for wealth, whilst Jätaka Parijata >gives > >mention of the 6th from Sun being auspicious for the native. This is a > >different story. > > > > > > > >The 6th house from the Lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we > >suffer from due to weaknesses, otherwise known as sins (6 sins known as > >shadripu). > > > >The 8th house from the lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we > >suffer from due to bad (dushta) karma done in the past life – notice the > >difference between bad karma vs. sins here. > > > > > > > >So from the 6th house we can see the short term ailments which bother us. > > > >From the 8th house we see chronic long term ailments. > > > > > > > >In addition to this we also analyze the Bädhak Sthäna and the 2nd house. > >These two we can focus on later. > > > > > >Now, each Rasi represents a different region of the body – so > >depending on which Rasi is 6H for a chart, that region of the body > >may be susceptible to disease, correct? > > > > > > > >[Visti] There are 2 major ways to reckon body parts. 1) from the > >kalapurusha > >treating Aries as lagna. > > > >2) Dividing each house into 3 parts of upper, middle and lower part of >the > >body and each of the houses being assigned to each of these 3 parts. > > > > > > > >#1 is used with regards to the 8th house or lord. i.e. if 8th lord is in > >Sagittarius, then problems in the thieghs or knees can occur. > > > >#2 is used with respect to the 6th lords placement – unless 8th lord is > >joined it. > > > > > > > >Now Parasara further details this by saying: if 6th lord is in 6th, 1st >or > >8th, then the sign of the 6th house will indicate the place of the ulcer > >(injury). > > > > > > > >There is a 3rd method given by Jaimini, but for now stick to the above. > > > > > >Does the placement of 6H lord also indicate something similar? i.e, > >if it is placed in a particular Rasi, can it affect the body regions > >governed by that Rasi (negatively if the Rasi is owned by an enemy)? > >Or will it affect the body part represented by that particular > >house? 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 II Om Namo Narayanaya II Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, You r really doing a good job. We the list members r very grateful to you.Knowledge of this type must be shared amongst all. As I have already mentioned earlier that Saturn associates with 3rd and 8th lord not only from AL but from lagna also. This way Sun is also involved.Therefore disease may effect the heart or bone .Many many thanks for your guidance. With best regards, Ramesh Mishra Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar If Saturn associates with the 3rd or 8th from AL, then death from disease can come. Otherwise it is unlikely. The type of disease is a different issue. Well Ramesh, if it was a profession alone, I should start charging for teaching – which I don’t. Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com ramesh mishra [aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in] 06 January 2005 14:05Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) II Om Namo Narayana II Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, Thanks for early response .Of course checking longevity first is mandatory. But it is certain that I may be involved in desease of something perataining to water element but I am unable to discriminate among the water borne deseases.Planets responsible for desease is MOON, Venus ,Saturn and Marsand bhavas are fifth,eigth ,9th and second. I do not know about Shoola Dasa. I have to read this dasa.Actually I have adopted this science as my hobby and not as a profession. So whenever I get time I attend your postings and try to know something. Regards, Ramesh MishraVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar You need to check your longevity and see if it fits with that period. Shoola Dasa is excellent for timing. Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com ramesh mishra [aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in] 06 January 2005 10:57Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, My AL is in 11th House in Gemini and third from it is Leo housed with two watery planets viz. Moon and Venus .My LL Sun is conjoined with marak Sat in 12th house which is also a watery rasi.It is definite that my death is surely by drowning. This is the reason that I do not know how to swim.Once during my childwhood I escaped from drowning while I was washing my hands to a swimming pool.Now the question is when the situation and circumstances will arise to my drowning at the time of death.My current dasa is also running something like that i.e.Jup(MD),8th lord placed in 2nd a marak sthan and aspected by another marak Sat from 12th house and AD is of Merc 2nd lord placed and conjunct with LL Sun and 7L Sat. Thus Jup-Merc is up to 15 Jan 2007.Now it depends upon PD and sukshma dasa and transit which I do not want to see. Am I correct Visti Ji. Pls. do not hesitate to comment on my own readings. Regards Ramesh Mishra Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Hare Rama Krsna||Dear Gili, NamaskarWith all due respect.Moon causes death due to drowning. But not all of them drowned. May theirsouls rest in peace.Best wishes,Visti Larsenvisti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx (AT) hotmail (DOT) com] 05 January 2005 20:43Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL)Dear Visti and all,First let me assure all that I have no doubt of the truthfulness of Vedic Astrology. If there are limitations they are surely due to the imperfections of humanity.My query is an honest one. Should we be able to find some similarities in the charts of the vast number of our brothers and sisters who die together in war or natural disaster? New'">Love,Gili>"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org>> ><>>RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness>Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:04:40 +0100>>|| Hare Rama Krsna||>Dear Gili, Namaskar>The 3rd and 8th houses from AL show the way you will exit the world, i.e.>the way you may die. This can be through disease if Saturn is in theses>houses, and through accidents/injury if other planets are there, whilst a>peaceful death is caused by benefics. The AL and the 5th from AL should >also>be analyzed the way Jaimini has proposed.>However these positions from AL will try to take the native once or twice,>before the native dies, but will not be succesful until our time has come.>Best wishes,>>Visti Larsen>visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>>>>-----Original Message----->gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]>03 January 2005 20:18> New">>RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness>>>Dear Visti,>Could you please explain the relevance of the 3H from AL in the context of>illness.>Love,>Gili>> >"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org>> >> >To: <>> >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness> >Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:47:37 +0100> >> >||Hare Rama Krsna||> >> >Dear Samir, Namaskar> >> >Comments below. Good questions.> >> >Best wishes,> >> >> >> >> >Visti Larsen> >> >http://srigaruda.com> >> > <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >> > New'">> >> >> >> > _____> >> >ray_of_solaris [a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk]> >27 December 2004 10:25> >To: > >[Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness> >> >> >> >> >Namaskar,> > New'">> >I have some questions regarding health issues. Apart from the> >specific combinations mentioned in the various classics, I understand> >that illness can be looked at from 6H from Lagna, Sun, and Moon, and> >also 6L for the same. 8H can also have a role.> >> >> >> >[Visti] The following is what I was taught and it works well in my> >experience.> >> >No, the 6th from the Sun (soul) and the Moon (mind) are not looked at in> >this regard. We are concerned with the body, and hence the Lagna. >Besides,> >the houses from the Sun and Moon have a different connotation, i.e.> >benefics> >in the 6th from Moon are very good for wealth, whilst Jätaka Parijata >gives> >mention of the 6th from Sun being auspicious for the native. This is a> >different story.> >> >> > New">> >The 6th house from the Lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we> >suffer from due to weaknesses, otherwise known as sins (6 sins known as> >shadripu).> >> >The 8th house from the lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we> >suffer from due to bad (dushta) karma done in the past life – notice the> >difference between bad karma vs. sins here.> >> >> >> >So from the 6th house we can see the short term ailments which bother us.> >> >From the 8th house we see chronic long term ailments.> >> >> >> >In addition to this we also analyze the Bädhak Sthäna and the 2nd house.> >These two we can focus on later.> >> >> >Now, each Rasi represents a different region of the body – so> >depending on which Rasi is 6H for a chart, that region of the body> >may be susceptible to disease, correct?> >> >> >> >[Visti] There are 2 major ways to reckon body parts. 1) from the> >kalapurusha> >treating Aries as lagna.> >> >2) Dividing each house into 3 parts of upper, middle and lower part of >the> >body and each of the houses being assigned to each of these 3 parts.> >> >> >> >#1 is used with regards to the 8th house or lord. i.e. if 8th lord is in> >Sagittarius, then problems in the thieghs or knees can occur.> >> >#2 is used with respect to the 6th lords placement – unless 8th lord is> >joined it.> >> >> >> >Now Parasara further details this by saying: if 6th lord is in 6th, 1st >or> >8th, then the sign of the 6th house will indicate the place of the ulcer> >(injury).> > New">> >> >> >There is a 3rd method given by Jaimini, but for now stick to the above.> >> >> >Does the placement of 6H lord also indicate something similar? i.e,> >if it is placed in a particular Rasi, can it affect the body regions> >governed by that Rasi (negatively if the Rasi is owned by an enemy)?> >Or will it affect the body part represented by that particular> >house? Is there a distinction between when the houses are used (as> >far as body parts goes) and when the rasi is used? New'">> >> >> >> >[Visti] I have answered these queries in the previous paragraph.> >> >I will add that in case of both the 2 methods above, to identify whether> >the> >injury is internal or external, the principle of the kaulukas is taken >into> >account – this you can read from Jaimini.> >> > New">> >Thank you,> >> >Samir> >> >> >> >> >> >> >~ om tat sat ~> >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the New">> >human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar Thankyou again. Heres an article on Shoola Dasa, which was published in the Jyotish Digest: http://.org/jyotishdigest/Vol1%20issue%201/Jyotishdigestv1i1.htm Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">ramesh mishra [aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in] 07 January 2005 11:29 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) 12.0pt"> II Om Namo Narayanaya II 12.0pt">Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, 12.0pt">You r really doing a good job. We the list members r very grateful to you.Knowledge of this type must be shared amongst all. 12.0pt">As I have already mentioned earlier that Saturn associates with 3rd and 8th lord not only from AL but from lagna also. This way Sun is also involved.Therefore disease may effect the heart or bone .Many many thanks for your guidance. 12.0pt">With best regards, 12.0pt">Ramesh Mishra Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar If Saturn associates with the 3rd or 8th from AL, then death from disease can come. Otherwise it is unlikely. The type of disease is a different issue. Well Ramesh, if it was a profession alone, I should start charging for teaching – which I don’t. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">ramesh mishra [aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in] 06 January 2005 14:05 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) 12.0pt"> II Om Namo Narayana II 12.0pt">Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, 12.0pt">Thanks for early response .Of course checking longevity first is mandatory. 12.0pt">But it is certain that I may be involved in desease of something perataining to water element but I am unable to discriminate among the water borne deseases.Planets responsible for desease is MOON, Venus ,Saturn and Mars and bhavas are fifth,eigth ,9th and second. 12.0pt">I do not know about Shoola Dasa. I have to read this dasa.Actually I have adopted this science as my hobby and not as a profession. So whenever I get time I attend your postings and try to know something. 12.0pt">Regards, 12.0pt">Ramesh Mishra Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar You need to check your longevity and see if it fits with that period. Shoola Dasa is excellent for timing. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">ramesh mishra [aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in] 06 January 2005 10:57 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) 12.0pt"> color:#FF007F">Om Namo Narayanaya, 12.0pt">Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, 12.0pt">My AL is in 11th House in Gemini and third from it is Leo housed with two watery planets viz. Moon and Venus .My LL Sun is conjoined with marak Sat in 12th house which is also a watery rasi.It is definite that my death is surely by drowning. This is the reason that I do not know how to swim.Once during my childwhood I escaped from drowning while I was washing my hands to a swimming pool.Now the question is when the situation and circumstances will arise to my drowning at the time of death.My current dasa is also running something like that i.e.Jup(MD),8th lord placed in 2nd a marak sthan and aspected by another marak Sat from 12th house and AD is of Merc 2nd lord placed and conjunct with LL Sun and 7L Sat. Thus Jup-Merc is up to 15 Jan 2007.Now it depends upon PD and sukshma dasa and transit which I do not want to see. Am I correct Visti Ji. Pls. do not hesitate to comment on my own readings. 12.0pt">Regards 12.0pt">Ramesh Mishra Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> || Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Gili, Namaskar With all due respect. Moon causes death due to drowning. But not all of them drowned. May their souls rest in peace. Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx (AT) hotmail (DOT) com] 05 January 2005 20:43 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) Dear Visti and all, First let me assure all that I have no doubt of the truthfulness of Vedic Astrology. If there are limitations they are surely due to the imperfections of humanity. My query is an honest one. Should we be able to find some similarities in the charts of the vast number of our brothers and sisters who die together in war or natural disaster? Love, Gili >"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org> > ><> >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness >Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:04:40 +0100 > >|| Hare Rama Krsna|| >Dear Gili, Namaskar >The 3rd and 8th houses from AL show the way you will exit the world, i.e. >the way you may die. This can be through disease if Saturn is in theses >houses, and through accidents/injury if other planets are there, whilst a >peaceful death is caused by benefics. The AL and the 5th from AL should >also >be analyzed the way Jaimini has proposed. >However these positions from AL will try to take the native once or twice, >before the native dies, but will not be succesful until our time has come. >Best wishes, > >Visti Larsen >visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > >gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx (AT) hotmail (DOT) com] >03 January 2005 20:18 > >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > > >Dear Visti, >Could you please explain the relevance of the 3H from AL in the context of >illness. >Love, >Gili > > >"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org> > > > ><> > >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > >Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:47:37 +0100 > > > >||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > >Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > >Comments below. Good questions. > > > >Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > >Visti Larsen > > > >http://srigaruda.com > > > > <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > >ray_of_solaris [a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk] > >27 December 2004 10:25 > > > >[Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness > > > > > > > > > >Namaskar, > > > >I have some questions regarding health issues. Apart from the > >specific combinations mentioned in the various classics, I understand > >that illness can be looked at from 6H from Lagna, Sun, and Moon, and > >also 6L for the same. 8H can also have a role. > > > > > > > >[Visti] The following is what I was taught and it works well in my > >experience. > > > >No, the 6th from the Sun (soul) and the Moon (mind) are not looked at in > >this regard. We are concerned with the body, and hence the Lagna. >Besides, > >the houses from the Sun and Moon have a different connotation, i.e. > >benefics > >in the 6th from Moon are very good for wealth, whilst Jätaka Parijata >gives > >mention of the 6th from Sun being auspicious for the native. This is a > >different story. > > > > > > > >The 6th house from the Lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we > >suffer from due to weaknesses, otherwise known as sins (6 sins known as > >shadripu). > > > >The 8th house from the lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we > >suffer from due to bad (dushta) karma done in the past life – notice the > >difference between bad karma vs. sins here. > > > > > > > >So from the 6th house we can see the short term ailments which bother us. > > > >From the 8th house we see chronic long term ailments. > > > > > > > >In addition to this we also analyze the Bädhak Sthäna and the 2nd house. > >These two we can focus on later. > > > > > >Now, each Rasi represents a different region of the body – so > >depending on which Rasi is 6H for a chart, that region of the body > >may be susceptible to disease, correct? > > > > > > > >[Visti] There are 2 major ways to reckon body parts. 1) from the > >kalapurusha > >treating Aries as lagna. > > > >2) Dividing each house into 3 parts of upper, middle and lower part of >the > >body and each of the houses being assigned to each of these 3 parts. > > > > > > > >#1 is used with regards to the 8th house or lord. i.e. if 8th lord is in > >Sagittarius, then problems in the thieghs or knees can occur. > > > >#2 is used with respect to the 6th lords placement – unless 8th lord is > >joined it. > > > > > > > >Now Parasara further details this by saying: if 6th lord is in 6th, 1st >or > >8th, then the sign of the 6th house will indicate the place of the ulcer > >(injury). > > > > > > > >There is a 3rd method given by Jaimini, but for now stick to the above. > > > > > >Does the placement of 6H lord also indicate something similar? i.e, > >if it is placed in a particular Rasi, can it affect the body regions > >governed by that Rasi (negatively if the Rasi is owned by an enemy)? > >Or will it affect the body part represented by that particular > >house? Is there a distinction between when the houses are used (as > >far as body parts goes) and when the rasi is used? > > > > > > > >[Visti] I have answered these queries in the previous paragraph. > > > >I will add that in case of both the 2 methods above, to identify whether > >the > >injury is internal or external, the principle of the kaulukas is taken >into > >account – this you can read from Jaimini. > > > > > >Thank you, 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> > > > >Samir > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ > >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > >human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading >today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > ><http://us.ard./SIG=12940ai83/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=g >r > >oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1104234265/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/comp >a > >nion.> click here > > > > > > > ><http://us.adserver./l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S >= > >:HM/A=2128215/rand=337161262> > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > >* To visit your group on the web, go to: > >/ > > > >* To from this group, send an email to: > > > ><?subject=Un> > > > >* Your use of is subject to the > ><> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > >__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > > > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the >human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Links > > > > > > > > > > >__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.nod32.com > > ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 II Om Namo Narayanaya II Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, Many many thanks for the guidance. Let me read this article first.Meanwhile you attend the conference.We will certainly be missing you for the two months but this is also very important. I wish you good luck and enjoyable , entertaining conference in Mumbai.Hope you will return soon with a fullbag containing gems of astrology. Thanks and regards,Ramesh Mishra Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar Thankyou again. Heres an article on Shoola Dasa, which was published in the Jyotish Digest: http://.org/jyotishdigest/Vol1%20issue%201/Jyotishdigestv1i1.htm Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com ramesh mishra [aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in] 07 January 2005 11:29Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) II Om Namo Narayanaya II Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, You r really doing a good job. We the list members r very grateful to you.Knowledge of this type must be shared amongst all. As I have already mentioned earlier that Saturn associates with 3rd and 8th lord not only from AL but from lagna also. This way Sun is also involved.Therefore disease may effect the heart or bone .Many many thanks for your guidance. With best regards, Ramesh Mishra Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar If Saturn associates with the 3rd or 8th from AL, then death from disease can come. Otherwise it is unlikely. The type of disease is a different issue. Well Ramesh, if it was a profession alone, I should start charging for teaching – which I don’t. Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com ramesh mishra [aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in] 06 January 2005 14:05Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) II Om Namo Narayana II Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, Thanks for early response .Of course checking longevity first is mandatory. But it is certain that I may be involved in desease of something perataining to water element but I am unable to discriminate among the water borne deseases.Planets responsible for desease is MOON, Venus ,Saturn and Marsand bhavas are fifth,eigth ,9th and second. I do not know about Shoola Dasa. I have to read this dasa.Actually I have adopted this science as my hobby and not as a profession. So whenever I get time I attend your postings and try to know something. Regards, Ramesh MishraVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar You need to check your longevity and see if it fits with that period. Shoola Dasa is excellent for timing. Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com ramesh mishra [aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in] 06 January 2005 10:57Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL) Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar, My AL is in 11th House in Gemini and third from it is Leo housed with two watery planets viz. Moon and Venus .My LL Sun is conjoined with marak Sat in 12th house which is also a watery rasi.It is definite that my death is surely by drowning. This is the reason that I do not know how to swim.Once during my childwhood I escaped from drowning while I was washing my hands to a swimming pool.Now the question is when the situation and circumstances will arise to my drowning at the time of death.My current dasa is also running something like that i.e.Jup(MD),8th lord placed in 2nd a marak sthan and aspected by another marak Sat from 12th house and AD is of Merc 2nd lord placed and conjunct with LL Sun and 7L Sat. Thus Jup-Merc is up to 15 Jan 2007.Now it depends upon PD and sukshma dasa and transit which I do not want to see. Am I correct Visti Ji. Pls. do not hesitate to comment on my own readings. Regards Ramesh Mishra Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: || Hare Rama Krsna||Dear Gili, NamaskarWith all due respect.Moon causes death due to drowning. But not all of them drowned. May theirsouls rest in peace.Best wishes,Visti Larsenvisti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx (AT) hotmail (DOT) com] 05 January 2005 20:43Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness (reference to AL)Dear Visti and all,First let me assure all that I have no doubt of the truthfulness of Vedic Astrology. If there are limitations they are surely due to the imperfections of humanity.My query is an honest one. Should we be able to find some similarities in the charts of the vast number of our brothers and sisters who die together in war or natural disaster?Love,Gili>"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org>>>To: <>>RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness>Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:04:40 +0100>>|| Hare Rama Krsna||>Dear Gili, Namaskar>The 3rd and 8th houses from AL show the way you will exit the world, i.e.>the way you may die. This can be through disease if Saturn is in theses>houses, and through accidents/injury if other planets are there, whilst a>peaceful death is caused by benefics. The AL and the 5th from AL should >also>be analyzed the way Jaimini has proposed.>However these positions from AL will try to take the native once or twice,>before the native dies, but will not be succesful until our time has come.>Best wishes,>>Visti Larsen>visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>>>>>gilimary alvey [lopamudraxxx (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]>03 January 2005 20:18> New'">>RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness>>>Dear Visti,>Could you please explain the relevance of the 3H from AL in the context of>illness.>Love,>Gili>> >"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org> New">> >> >To: <>> >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness> >Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:47:37 +0100> >> >||Hare Rama Krsna||> >> >Dear Samir, Namaskar> >> >Comments below. Good questions.> >> >Best wishes,> >> >> >> >> >Visti Larsen> >> >http://srigaruda.com> >> > <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >> >> >> >> >> > _____> >> >ray_of_solaris [a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk]> >27 December 2004 10:25> >To: > >[Om Krishna Guru] Indications for illness> >> >> >> >> >Namaskar,> >> >I have some questions regarding health issues. Apart from the> >specific combinations mentioned in the various classics, I understand> >that illness can be looked at from 6H from Lagna, Sun, and Moon, and> >also 6L for the same. 8H can also have a role.> >> >> >> >[Visti] The following is what I was taught and it works well in my> >experience.> >> >No, the 6th from the Sun (soul) and the Moon (mind) are not looked at in> >this regard. We are concerned with the body, and hence the Lagna. >Besides,> >the houses from the Sun and Moon have a different connotation, i.e.> >benefics> >in the 6th from Moon are very good for wealth, whilst Jätaka Parijata >gives> >mention of the 6th from Sun being auspicious for the native. This is a> >different story.> >> >> > New'">> >The 6th house from the Lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we> >suffer from due to weaknesses, otherwise known as sins (6 sins known as> >shadripu).> >> >The 8th house from the lagna and its lord will indicate the diseases we> >suffer from due to bad (dushta) karma done in the past life – notice the> >difference between bad karma vs. sins here.> >> >> >> >So from the 6th house we can see the short term ailments which bother us.> >> >From the 8th house we see chronic long term ailments.> >> >> >> >In addition to this we also analyze the Bädhak Sthäna and the 2nd house.> >These two we can focus on later.> >> >> >Now, each Rasi represents a different region of the body – so> >depending on which Rasi is 6H for a chart, that region of the body> >may be susceptible to disease, correct?> >> >> >> >[Visti] There are 2 major ways to reckon body parts. 1) from the> >kalapurusha> >treating Aries as lagna.> >> >2) Dividing each house into 3 parts of upper, middle and lower part of >the> >body and each of the houses being assigned to each of these 3 parts.> >> >> >> >#1 is used with regards to the 8th house or lord. i.e. if 8th lord is in> >Sagittarius, then problems in the thieghs or knees can occur.> >> >#2 is used with respect to the 6th lords placement – unless 8th lord is> >joined it.> >> >> >> >Now Parasara further details this by saying: if 6th lord is in 6th, 1st >or> >8th, then the sign of the 6th house will indicate the place of the ulcer New">> >(injury).> > New'">> >> >> >There is a 3rd method given by Jaimini, but for now stick to the above.> >> >> >Does the placement of 6H lord also indicate something similar? i.e,> >if it is placed in a particular Rasi, can it affect the body regions> >governed by that Rasi (negatively if the Rasi is owned by an enemy)?> >Or will it affect the body part represented by that particular> >house? Is there a distinction between when the houses are used (as> >far as body parts goes) and when the rasi is used?> >> >> >> >[Visti] I have answered these queries in the previous paragraph.> >> >I will add that in case of both the 2 methods above, to identify whether> >the> >injury is internal or external, the principle of the kaulukas is taken >into> >account – this you can read from Jaimini.> >> > New'">> >Thank you,> >> >Samir> >> >> >> >> >> >> >~ om tat sat ~> >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' New">> >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the New'">> >human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading >today> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Sponsor> >> >> >> >> >>><http://us.ard./SIG=12940ai83/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=g>r>>oups/S=1705082690:HM/EXP=1104234265/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/comp>a> >nion.> click here> >> >> >>><http://us.adserver./l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S>=> >:HM/A=2128215/rand=337161262>> >> >> >> > _____> >> > Links> >> >* > >/> >> >* To from this group, send an email to:> >> ><?subject=Un>> >> >* > ><> Terms of Service.> >> >> >> >__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________> >> >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.> >http://www.nod32.com> >>>>>>>~ om tat sat ~>Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.>Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'>(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the>human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.>(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today> Links>>>>>>>> New">>>>__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.>http://www.nod32.com>>~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.nod32.com ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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