#4 Saturn as AK

[Guest guest]

Dear Nitin,

I do not have Charakaraka replacement. Even if it were, how does it

impact the behaviour or results of original Charakaraka till the time

the replacement actually occurs?

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Nitin wrote:

||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

Dear Chandrashekhar Ji, and list members, Namaskaar.

Thank you for writing. Some thoughts below..

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Dear Nitin,

I think one must understand the Atmakaraka principle in more depth.

[Via NK]

True. In agreement.

Like Gili I too have Saturn as my Atmakaraka. He haas not brought any

grief to me.

[Via NK]

Wonderful.

The reason is very simple. Saturn as Atma Karaka makes it difficult for

the person to give grief to others, though he might be at the receiving

end.

[Via NK]

In agreement, again.

Now it would depend on the way he/she looks at what is grief, for

Saturn to be able to give him/her grief, is it not? If one asks for

those with Saturn as Atmakaraka about their getting grief from Saturn,

perhaps one will be surprised and understand what I mean.

[Via NK]

While others may be, I am not surprised, and am usually always sin

praise of Shani Dev, or calling upon peace. Again, in agreement.

:>

Personally, I think the expression of Atmakaraka giving grief and

teaching a lesson is taken too literally as also in isolation.

[Via NK]

In agreement, again.

Chandrashekhar.

[Via NK]

I wasn’t taking anything in the literal sense in my last e-mail.

Perhaps I may have seemingly stated so. What I did want to point out

was that there is a Chara Karaka replacement in Gilimary’s chart. Do

you share the same?

If this is your chart, I don’t see the same.

http://www..org/education/chandrasekhar.htm

Best wishes and warm regards,

Nitin.

|| Namah Shivaaya ||

Nitin wrote:

||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

Dear Gili, and list members, Namaskaar.

Nice example, Gili – the entire chart has to be taken in perspective.

Don’t forget the Chara AtmaKaraka replacement by Jupiter. What are the

lessons that this planet would bring, and how has it been this far…?

Best wishes,

Nitin.

|| Namah Shivaaya ||

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Dear Ramesh,

I beg to offer one example where Saturn as AK has not brought sorrow to

the

native. Saturn is my AK and Lagna Lord. My life has been pleasant and

at

age 60 I have few regrets concerning things I have done or would have

liked

to have done. Even the past 6 years in which I have had cancer

(ovarian)

have not involved too much suffering and, indeed, have brought much

jhappiness, including my introduction to Vedic Astrology. I suspect

that

having Moon conjoined Saturn and Mars in 4H has allowed me to accept

the

good and bad with a certain amount of detachment and has not given me a

worrying nature at all.

I do feel most sorry for Saturn who is so feared. He is only doing his

job

and in my case he gave me careers which served the public and the most

recent - helping the poor, uneducated and disadvantaged to get an

education.

This has given me much joy rather than sorrow.

Love,

Gili

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Gilimary

Natal Chart

March 2, 1944

Time: 6:30:00 am

Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT)

Place: 2 W 14' 00", 52 N 23' 00"

Altitude: 0.00 meters

Lunar Yr-Mo: Subhanu - Phalguna

Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (9.90% left)

Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

Nakshatra: Rohini (Mo) (0.14% left)

Yoga: Vishkambha (Sa)

Karana: Bava (Su)

Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Cn)

Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Cn)

Kaala Lord: Moon (Mahakala: Jupiter)

Sunrise: 7:00:51 am (March 1)

Sunset: 5:43:58 pm (March 1)

Janma Ghatis: 58.7144

Ayanamsa: 23-04-24.17

Sidereal Time: 17:00:46

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

Lagna 2 Aq 20' 14.14" Dhan 3 Aq Li

Sun - PK 18 Aq 30' 07.56" Sata 4 Aq Pi

Moon - MK 23 Ta 18' 50.54" Rohi 4 Ta Cn

Mars - BK 24 Ta 47' 57.26" Mrig 1 Ta Le

Mercury - DK 5 Aq 30' 33.76" Dhan 4 Aq Sc

Jupiter ® - AmK 26 Cn 33' 15.41" Asre 3 Cn Aq

Venus - PiK 18 Cp 41' 28.45" Srav 3 Cp Ge

Saturn - AK 26 Ta 42' 59.53" Mrig 2 Ta Vi

Rahu - GK 11 Cn 51' 58.94" Push 3 Cn Li

Ketu 11 Cp 51' 58.94" Srav 1 Cp Ar

Maandi 17 Sg 32' 53.05" PSha 2 Sg Vi

Gulika 5 Sg 23' 46.32" Mool 2 Sg Ta

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Moon Moon 1934-03-07 Mars 1935-01-07 Rah 1935-08-10

Jup 1937-02-05 Sat 1938-06-08 Merc 1940-01-08

Ket 1941-06-07 Ven 1942-01-07 Sun 1943-09-10

Mars Mars 1944-03-07 Rah 1944-08-06 Jup 1945-08-25

Sat 1946-07-31 Merc 1947-09-10 Ket 1948-09-06

Ven 1949-01-31 Sun 1950-04-01 Moon 1950-08-10

Rah Rah 1951-03-08 Jup 1953-11-21 Sat 1956-04-12

Merc 1959-02-18 Ket 1961-09-09 Ven 1962-09-28

Sun 1965-09-28 Moon 1966-08-22 Mars 1968-02-18

Jup Jup 1969-03-07 Sat 1971-04-26 Merc 1973-11-09

Ket 1976-02-12 Ven 1977-01-19 Sun 1979-09-22

Moon 1980-07-09 Mars 1981-11-09 Rah 1982-10-17

Sat Sat 1985-03-07 Merc 1988-03-10 Ket 1990-11-22

Ven 1991-12-30 Sun 1995-02-27 Moon 1996-02-09

Mars 1997-09-13 Rah 1998-10-23 Jup 2001-08-28

Merc Merc 2004-03-07 Ket 2006-08-07 Ven 2007-08-04

Sun 2010-06-02 Moon 2011-04-07 Mars 2012-09-10

Rah 2013-09-07 Jup 2016-03-22 Sat 2018-06-30

Ket Ket 2021-03-08 Ven 2021-08-07 Sun 2022-10-08

Moon 2023-02-09 Mars 2023-09-13 Rah 2024-02-07

Jup 2025-02-24 Sat 2026-01-31 Merc 2027-03-11

Ven Ven 2028-03-08 Sun 2031-07-10 Moon 2032-07-09

Mars 2034-03-08 Rah 2035-05-08 Jup 2038-05-08

Sat 2041-01-08 Merc 2044-03-08 Ket 2047-01-08

Sun Sun 2048-03-08 Moon 2048-06-27 Mars 2048-12-27

Rah 2049-05-02 Jup 2050-03-26 Sat 2051-01-14

Merc 2051-12-28 Ket 2051-11-04 Ven 2053-03-08

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~ om tat sat ~

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(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that

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