Re:2-Shashank,Shripal & All, re. How long do the effects of the transits, last?.> Mark K.

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Hi mark,

 

Good to hear from you,After a holiday of 4 days I am

back.

 

Know If dasa planet is very strong in a chart,that

person fel mostly experience those benefic or malefic

effect rather than transit effects at all.

 

Let say a beggar must be going through his worst dasa

of Life that's why even if in transit exalted saturn

comes he is not able to feel it.

 

So for a wholistic approach dasa should be given more

importance.

 

However transit is like for that moment we are

laughing or crying or gone for a party or like me for

making hoildays for 4 days.so transit will tell you

more preciously how those hoilidays are going to

go.That you cannot find it from dasa.

 

what do you think about it Mark?

--- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

 

> Dear Shashank, Shripal & All:

>

>

>

> Traditionally, Jyotish describes the 'dasas' as

> being more powerful.

>

> But, in my experience and in the experience of

> others, I find that people

> with smaller, or more delicate, Moons, are more

> affected by the transits,

> then even the dasas.

>

> Also, I notice that the 'transits' are going on,

> out-there, and feel like

> they're on more the surface of my skin, or nervous

> system, whereas the

> dasas, really seem to relate to a much more subtle,

> 'emotional' level, of

> experience.

>

> The other thing I've noticed is by learning to look

> at both the transits,

> and dasas, simultaneously, I've learned how to feel

> 'both' at the same

> time.

>

> Dasas, to me, now, feel more continual, and the

> transits, with especially

> the Moon's Waxings & Wanings, .... are 'felt' more

> on the surface.

>

> A good way to feel the dasas, is to get really

> precisely clear about the

> transits, and then, you'll notice that a subtlety of

> the dasas, seems to be

> going on, through-out the entire sub-periods of the

> transits.

>

> I do find it a little difficult to feel the

> difference between the transits,

> and the smallest level of the dasas, but I'm sure

> some can 'feel' those as

> well.

>

> Most of the time, I'm aware of the Maha, middle, and

> 3rd level dasas, all at

> the same time, and then, the transits, on top of

> those....

>

> hope this helps.

>

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

> Mark K.

>

>

>

> pss....

>

> Beautiful.

>

> Now from your experience, how long (before and

> after) the effect of

> transits lasts?

>

>

> My experience of the effects of the transits,

> depends on how I'm feeling and

> now, that I've been watching them for over 18 years,

> I've noticed their

> negative effects have lessended dramatically.

>

> For example, it used to be that I'd feel a quality

> of roughness during a lot

> of the Moon's Waning cycle.

>

> But, the longer I watched 'it', I began to notice

> that there was a very

> predictable, quality of my nervous system, going

> inwards, when the Moon was

> Waning, and feelings of more exhuberance when the

> Moon Waxes.

>

> Then, I noticed as I innocently felt, and then

> allowed myself to be more

> with those particular differences,... in other

> words, be more inward,

> resting more, taking more rest; during the Waning

> part, then....

>

> I began to notice the overall, initial negative

> effects, .... lessening more

> and more.

>

> Now, after all this time, I don't feel hardly at

> all, the quality of

> apprehension, or unsettled quality during the entire

> range of the Waning

> Moon.

>

> Instead I experience the positive side of that

> inwardness, and I feel like

> I'm taking much more advantage of that particular

> flavor.

>

> So, there's no telling how long you have to

> experience the duration of any

> transits, but, listen to your nervous system....

>

> and see if you can figure out what Nature wants...

> and learning to adjust,...see if you also feel

> better, especially during the

> transits, which have been the most troublesome.

"Deshmukh, Shashank"

> <shashank.deshmukh

>

> Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:07:26 -0500

> <>, "Mark

> Kincaid" <m.kincaid

> RE: Re: 2-Shripal, re.

> How to know whether our

> experience is due to the transits, dasas or our

> charts..> Mark K.

>

>

> Beautiful.

>

> Now from your experience, how long (before and

> after) the effect of

> transits lasts?

>

>

> Shripal [d_shripal]

> Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:21 AM

> Mark Kincaid

> Re: 2-Shripal, re. How

> to know whether our

> experience is due to the transits, dasas or our

> charts..> Mark K.

>

>

>

> Hi Mark,

>

> So considering these three things effect our

> life,that

> means transit in my chart sems to be more powerful

> than

> dasa.But considering a whole scenario.

>

> For example a moment or let say few time of a day is

> intensely experienced by Transit.but when I look at

> a

> week, than overall credit that I can give of my

> experience is because of Merc-Ketu dasa currently

> going.

>

> What I think about daily transit is like for that

> moment, But dasa is like actually overall things

> going

> around.

>

> Let say for me to experience a aloneness or

> happiness

> for a travelling in a bus for an hour with my

> friends

> and having a lots of fun on that particular

> day,because of transit influencing natal very much

> and

> dasa hasa vry small role or no role to play.But when

> I

> look at a end of week and see How my whole week has

> gone, that seems like more dasa eect than transit

> really influenced that person.

>

> More precise manner if I want to tell same thing,I

> would say it is your natal.Natal defines it's limits

> How much you will get or possesss.while dasa

> signifies

> time when these things are going to happen.Transit

> either delays it or makes it happen.

>

> So root of everything is natal.Transit is for a

> moment

> and that momnet can be your promotion in a job,But

> natal should signify that, otherwise you will never

> get.And dasa plays a role like who is curently a

> King

> of your chart.

>

> For me Mercury Mahadasa is a King and Ketu is

> Mantri,SO I should look first for thess two planets

> and than, How these planets are related in Natal

> with

> Transit.Than How other planets are influencing these

> planets in Natal and similarly in Transit.So dasa is

> for finding who is currently acting in your film.

>

> What do you think about this?

>

>

> --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

>

> > Dear Shripal:

> >

> > As far as how to know how much of our experiences

> > are due to either the

> > transits, dasas, or our charts; .... experience

> and

> > knowledge both together

> > seem to be necessary.

> >

> > The Jyotish knowledge says for example that dasas

> > are slightly more dynamic

> > an influence then the transits.

> >

> > However, in 'my' experience, and I've learned, in

> > the experiences of many

> > people with smaller Moon's in their charts;

> transits

> > are more dominate.

> >

> > So, knowledge and experience, the true signs of a

> > real 'science'.

> >

> > Also, it might be more helpful if you ask me a

> > particular question related

> > to your chart, in trying to determine whether some

> > experience you're going

> > through is due to the transits, or your dasas, or

> > even your chart.

> >

> > It is a great comfort, however, to realize that

> > ultimately, these 3, are

> > really the main aspects of Astrology that are

> > 'goings' on, all the time.

> >

> > Knowing these three, then, and especially what to

> do

> > about strengthening the

> > malefic parts of them, is a great benefit of good,

> > consciousness Jyotish.

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> >

> > Mark Kincaid

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Shripal <d_shripal

> > > Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:46:15 -0800 (PST)

> > >

> > > My Exp Moon in Sagittarus--> To Mark

> > >

> > > Hi Mark,

> > >

> > > I don't what happen on Saturday night while I

> was

> > > going for a sleep, as sleep wasn't coming all

> > along I

> > > was thinking.A thought came to mind, a past

> arise

> > in

> > > front of me, I was able to LOVE someone or I

> Loved

> > > someone.Is it truely a Love or mere just a

> > attaraction

> > > or may be I am feeling becaus I am all alone

> > curently.

> > >

> > > Than a thought came what is Love, so I read it

> > some

> > > where, which arises when desire is not there

> that

> > is

> > > LOVE, as Love has got nothing to with bodies, So

> I

> > > really Love someone, Yes a answer I got.A

> feeling

> > was

> > > tremendous and a smile came on my face and

> withing

> > no

> > > moment I fell a deep sleep.

> > >

> > > As my Birth data:DOB:16th March

> > > 1980,Time:21:00,Place:Rajkot, INDIA: 22n18,

> 70e47,

> > > India . transit Moon comes in 3rd place, trine

> > with my

> > > Mars,Sat ,Rahu and jupiter.Same Moon squaring

> > transit

> > > Jupiter. A thought was more concerned to

> Venus.So

> > I

> > > found Natal Venus and transit ?Moon trines,while

> > natal

> > > moon and Transit Moon squares.That may be a

> reason

> > for

> > > my such a thoughts.Also Natal Venus squares

> > Transit

> > > Venus.So influence was great and feeling were

> also

> > too

> > > deep.

> > >

> > > Mark here I want to ask a question,As some is

> > > experiencing related to family,someone

> experiences

> > for

> > > Business,someone for there Love ones.So How you

> > can

> > > really come to relating your transit and Natal

> and

> > > Mahadasa, what person might be curently going

> > through

> > > his/her life.

> > >

> > > For Moon transit over Saturn,A person for a 2

> days

> > > might feel very alone and aloof and search for

> his

> > > mother.but how you will predict, What to give

> more

> > > weightage in a chart.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

> > >

> > >> Dear Adnan:

> > >>

> > >> Very interesting question. When I did a chart,

> > for

> > >> the time you asked this

> > >> question,

> > >> Moon was at the 3rd degree of Sagittarius, and

> > Rahu

> > >> was at the 1st degree of

> > >> Aries,

> > >> therefore, Moon was just then, moving through

> the

> > >> 9th house aspect of Rahu.

> > >>

> > >> Personally, I tend to notice Rahu's influences

> > more

> > >> intensely.

> > >>

> > >> Ketu's influence seems more subtle, but both,

> > seem

> > >> to be generally

> > >> disruptive of the Moon's sweet, gentle quality.

> > >>

> > >> Let's look at the up-coming transit when the

> Moon

> > >> goes into Aquarius, where

> > >> it'll supposedly

> > >> be, being aspected by Ketu....

> > >>

> > >> to see if both of us, experience it.....!

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> how ya been?

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> ciao

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Mark K.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> "Sabri" <korua

> > >>

> > >> Sun, 06 Feb 2005 03:27:13 -0000

> > >>

> > >> Rahu and Ketu's

> > >> Aspects--> To Mark

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Hi Mark,

> > >>

> > >> I have a simple question regarding your

> > experiences

> > >> about the

> > >> transits;

> > >>

> > >> Do you experience the 5th. and 9th. house

> aspects

> > of

> > >> Rahu and Ketu,

> > >> when Transit Moon, is passing through the

> > 5th.9th.

> > >> aspects of natal

> > >> Rahu and Ketu? and how is the experience? (and

> > for

> > >> that matter

> > >> Transit Moon aspected (again 5th. and 9th.) by

> > >> Transit Rahu or Ketu?

> > >>

> > >> The reason I am asking is;

> > >> a) I do not seem to feel Ketu's 5th. and 9th.

> so

> > >> clearly as that of

> > >> Rahu's.

> > >>

> > >> b) There is disagreement amongst Jyotishis (as

> > you

> > >> know) about

> > >> whether Ke has 5th. and 9th. aspects or not. So

> > here

> > >> is one

> > >> opportunity to use direct experience to prove

> the

> > >> validity of the

> > >> theories.

> > >>

> > >> Take care, Chau, (Jai Guru) Adnan Sabri.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

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> to:

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