2-Shripal, Amit.... & All, re....Planets/ good or bad,...or malefic and beneficness...> Mark K.

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Hi Mark,

 

After How one should decide what to give more

weightage a sign or a house or influence of othe

planets.A dasa or a transit.

 

How will you categorise it's effect considering all

these factors,influence etc and predict it for an

individual.what to take first and than next.What

things to be considered in broader prospect.

 

Where to start and when to end.

 

I want to know your methind of analysis.

 

--- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

 

> Dear Shripal & Amit, & All:

>

> This question is a great one, because it speaks to

> the very heart of

> grasping the wisdom of Jyotish.

>

> #1 is....

> Learning to understand what it means for any Planet

> to be in a House...

>

> #2, is to understand that same planet in the

> different signs....

>

> and #3,.... to understand what it means for that

> same planet to also be the

> lord of other houses, is also very important...

>

> But, remember, this,...identifing....

> figuring out whether a certain Jyotish configuration

> is positive, benefic,

> or negative or malefic, is just the first stage....

>

> the 2nd and even more important part, is figuring

> out how we can change

> that, or any malefic situation into a more positive

> one!

>

> Now, today, that's my most interesting.... part!

>

> Another way of figuring out that 'maleficness', is

> to ask yourself,

> generally,

>

> 1) identify what is wrong, that you're going

> through or wish was

> different,....

>

> In otherwords, go backwards in the analysis.....

>

> and 2)....once you've identified the problem....

>

> let's say it's being accident prone,....

>

> or health, and sickness problems, or losses....

>

> or lack of self-confidence,...

>

> or with lack of clarity of mind, or decision

> makings....

>

> or lack of faith....

>

> with each description of the problem,... you can

> fairly easily identify the

> Planet that corresponds with that...

>

> for accident prone, look to Mars...

>

> for health, and sickness problems and losses, Saturn

> is probably involved...

>

> with lack of self-confidence, .... Sun needs to be

> looked at...

>

> with lack of clarity of mind, or decision

> makings.... look to Mercury....

>

> and with lack of faith, look to Jupiter....

>

> etc...

>

> So, then once you've identified the Planet, then

> this will help verify, that

> such and such of a Jyotish configuration is actually

> being malefic....

>

> This is the technique I've used, especially when

> people have strong or

> exalted Planets, but, they're still experiencing the

> negative or malefic

> sides of that planet.

>

> For example, some Exalted Saturn people still have a

> lot of Saturn grief,

> and even though there Saturn may be in a good house,

> there still must be a

> reason why it's acting malefically...

>

> Then, I realized, that even with a good planet, one

> can still experience the

> negative side of it.

>

> Look at Hitler, and Saddam Hussein, who both had

> their Exalted Sun's in

> Aries...

> though these examples are also about the fact that

> their other planets

> weren't strong enough to balance their very good

> Suns...

>

> but you get the idea...

>

> I have several friends who have Exalted Saturns in

> their first and 12th

> houses....

>

> Some of these people find themselves way out of

> balance, and experiencing

> the very uncomfortableness of a big, Saturn problem,

> inspite of their

> supposedly good Saturn's....

>

> Hope this helps...

>

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

> Mark K.

>

>

>

>

> Shripal <d_shripal

> Spirituality_Astrology

> Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:54:10 -0800 (PST)

> vedic astrology

> [spirituality_Astrology] 8# Re: Saturn in

> the 7th --> I's not

> about Good or Bad

>

>

> Hi Amit,

>

> No not at all,when any planet is in any house, that

> means it is in some sign and according to that it

> signifies some qualities through that,so you have to

> understand those qualities and than act in order to

> revert if they are bad and enhance if those are

> Good.

>

> Know how you decide qualities are Good or Bad.That

> will be in next posting,got to go for a Lunch bye...

>

>

> --- ak_131 <agrawal.amitk wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Shriphal ji,

> > Can we say same results for saturn being

> > exalted , debeliated

> > and being in the same house?

> > Thanks

> > Amit

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Shripal

> > <d_shripal> wrote:

> > > Hi Partap and All memebers,

> > >

> > > I don't think any planets give really that bad

> > results

> > > in any house.Its about exploring that House.

> > >

> > > First we have to understand a planets and it's

> > > prolictive things towards one's Life.than where

> > that

> > > planets is placed, that in in what house,for

> > example

> > > Saturn is placed in 7th house.So what does that

> > Satunr

> > > signifies and what 7th house signifies.Than for

> a

> > > given Lagna it is Karaka of what Houses.

> > >

> > > As I have given my general prediction that:

> > >

> >

>

-------------------------

> > > Let us first understand about 7th house in

> brief,

> > it

> > > is about marriage,marriage partner and open

> > > enemies.The characteristics which are valued in

> > > others, and which are sought in a partner, are

> > > symbolised by this house as well as the

> > > characteristics which are possessed by our

> enemies

> > and

> > > through which we are vulnerable to opposition.

> > >

> > > Saturn is very strong. Saturn makes a person

> more

> > > attaracted towards isolation,rejection,pain and

> > > disappointment until he re-orient himself for a

> > inner

> > > search.Marriage is always accompanied by

> darkness,

> > so

> > > matching should be properly done.Here Saturn

> > signifies

> > > difficulty in marriage and any other

> > relationship.It

> > > is always a other person's fault.So happiness or

> > > unhappy,luck or unluck always comes from

> > > opponenets.Commonly, isolation or aloneness is

> one

> > > sort of restriction.

> > >

> > > Partner is too serious,older although

> > > faithful,financially solvent and stable.But

> > marital

> > > bliss is inhibited.Sometimes he is possessive

> and

> > > demanding, or he may bea disappointment simply

> > > because he is incompatible, or abandons the

> > > individual, or causes hurt through emotional or

> > > physical infidelity

> > >

> >

>

----------

> -----

> > > So I will suggest go inner,do meditation,

> express

> > > yourself ,try different understanding methods.

> > >

> > > So in order to get a good results for a person

> > having

> > > a Saturn in 7th House, he has to create a

> > > understanding about his partner or wife, What

> > > qualities thety are having and than work that

> > out.So

> > > to tackle Saturn you have to be more

> understanding

> > > person,go inner side rather than going

> > outside,don't

> > > try to win by opposition,but rather be like

> > Mahatma

> > > Gandhi,believe in non-violence and faith and

> > > confidence i oneself.

> > >

> > > If you will act against saturn,than you are

> bound

> > to

> > > get all bad results that I have said above.So

> it's

> > > more about understanding and than action for

> your

> > > understanding.And that has to come and it can be

> > from

> > > anywhere.

> > >

> > > More you desire,morer you are Happy in your

> Life.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- partap111 <rbcalla> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Parkash ji

> > > >

> > > > I thought Saturn is not good for 7 thouse.

> > > > Very few people can take maturity needed to

> > > > understand Saturn in

> > > > 7th House.

> > > >

> > > > Regards!

> > > >

> > > > Partap

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > navlakshya, mangesh

> > > > ramnathkar

> > > > <mangeshrr> wrote:

> > > > > Thanks Prakash

> > > > > Can you suggest in Products in which I can

> Do

> > > > > Bussiness ?

> > > > > Regarding my Family, they are Middle class

> > Family

> > > > and

> > > > > All Money was spent on me and my two

> brothers

> > > > > education, My dad made me a Computer

> Engineer,

> > my

> > > > > elder Brother did Pharmacy then did MBA, m

> > younger

> > > > > Borther just completed Architecture, has

> given

> > GRE

> > > > and

> > > > > applying to different colleges in USA, HE is

> > > > planning

> > > > > to come to USA this year...

> > > > > Any way when my Dad retired, He was in bad

> > shape,

> > > > > Financially and emotional, becasue of the

> fact

> > he

> > > > had

> > > > > no investments what-so-ever, He invested in

> > his

> > > > Kids'

> > > > > education

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > MangeshR

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Vedic Astrologer - Prakash

> > > > > <prakashkandpal> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saturn the dhanakaraka in your case

> occupies

> > 7th

> > > > > > house of

> > > > > > business/partners. So the money will come

> > from

> > > > > > business

> > > > > > largely. Saturn's aspect on Capricorn is

> > good -

> > > > > > increase

> > > > > > enhancement in career will be good.

> > Saturn's

> > > > > > presence in

> > > > > > 7th also reminds me about one more thing

> > that

> > > > your

> > > > > > family

> > > > > > may be owning stocks/shares in companies

> or

> > > > > > factories of

> > > > > > its own. Yet I think you may not be having

> > very

> > > > > > steady

> > > > > > relationships in your family though being

> an

> > > > > > orthodox and

> > > > > > deep rooted thinker yourself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You may not have been an activie sportsman

> > > > (physical

> > > > > > games)

> > > > > > but in mental you may have strong

> interest.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Prakash Kandpal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- mangesh ramnathkar <mangeshrr>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > > Let me give my experience ..

> > > > > > > I'm Capri Asc

> > > > > > > Saturn is 7 th house

> > > > > > > Birht date 28 feb 1976 4.24am Mumbai

> India

> > > > > > > I do have troubles with relationship as

> > well

> > > > as

> > > > > > > Contracts but to be honest, I love it as

> I

> > > > have

> > > > > > few

> > > > > > > partners but the Best you can ever get,

> > they

> > > > are

> > > > > > > Loyal, Honest and the very few people I

> > care

> > > > for

> > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > MangeshR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- Vedic Astrologer - Prakash

> > > > > > > <prakashkandpal> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > U see Saturn is 11th from Moon and is

> in

> > one

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > greatest

> > > > > > > > friends sign by virtue of being in

> > Pisces.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Occupies favourable position from both

> > its

> > > > sign

> > > > > > > > Capricorn

> > > > > > > > and Aquarius i.e. 3rd from 5th and 2nd

> > from

> > > > 6th.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 5th lord

> > > > > > > > in 7th is a rajayoga in any case.

> From

> > Moon

> > > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > > becomes

> > > > > > > > YK and occupies 11th house so all in

> all

> > > > good is

> > > > > > > > indicated.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3rd house pertaining to Mars gives

> > sportsman

> > > > > > spirit

> > > > > > > > or high

> > > > > > > > involvement is sports etc.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Prakash Kandpal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > One of the individual's I came

> across

> > > > (can't

> > > > > > share

> > > > > > > > data,

> > > > > > > > > sorry) has

> > > > > > > > > kanya rising, saturn in 7th. Married

> a

> > > > > > classfellow

> > > > > > > > at age

> > > > > > > > > of 22 -

> > > > > > > > > handsome guy, physician and

> > > > semi-professional

> > > > > > > > sportsman,

> > > > > > > > > same age +/-

> > > > > > > > > 1 year or less, has a wonderful

> > marriage,

> > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > beautiful

> > > > > > > > > kids, lot

> > > > > > > > > richer than anyone else in her six

> > > > generations

> > > > > > > > (maybe

> > > > > > > > > more) before

> > > > > > > > > including around (contemporary) --

> > > > brilliant

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > along,

> > > > > > > > > very gifted

> > > > > > > > > and achieved a lot already. Very

> > > > disciplined

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > very beginning

> > > > > > > > > of life. As an aside, has two

> > headlines!

> > > > Very

> > > > > > > > endearing

> > > > > > > > > personality,

> > > > > > > > > nothing saturnine about her. Has

> moon

> > in

> > > > > > ninth.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > navlakshya,

> > Shripal

> > > > > > > > > <d_shripal> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Hi Rupji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Let us first understand about 7th

> > house

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > brief, it

> > > > > > > > > > is about marriage,marriage partner

> > and

> > > > open

> > > > > > > > > > enemies.The characteristics which

> > are

> > > > valued

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > others, and which are sought in a

> > > > partner,

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > symbolised by this house as well

> as

> > the

> > > > > > > > > > characteristics which are

> possessed

> > by

> > > > our

> > > > > > > > enemies and

> > > > > > > > > > through which we are vulnerable to

> > > > > > opposition.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Know saturn in 7th is digbala,

> very

> > > > strong.

> > > > > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > > > > makes a person more attaracted

> > towards

> > > > > > > > > > isolation,rejection,pain and

> > > > disappointment

> > > > > > > > until he

> > > > > > > > > > re-orient himself for a inner

> > > > > > search.Marriage is

> > > > > > > > > > always accompanied by darkness, so

> > > > matching

> > > > > > > > should be

> > > > > > > > > > properly done.Here Saturn

> signifies

> > > > > > difficulty

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > marriage and any other

> > relationship.It

> > > > is

> > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > other person's fault.So happiness

> or

> > > > > > > > unhappy,luck or

> > > > > > > > > > unluck always comes from

> > > > > > opponenets.Commonly,

> > > > > > > > > > isolation or aloneness is one sort

> > of

> > > > > > > > restriction.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Partner is too serious,older

> > although

> > > > > > > > > > faithful,financially solvent and

> > > > stable.But

> > > > > > > > marital

> > > > > > > > > > bliss is inhibited.Sometimes he is

> > > > > > possessive

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > demanding, or he may bea

> > disappointment

> > > > > > simply

> > > > > > > > > > because he is incompatible, or

> > abandons

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > individual, or causes hurt through

> > > > emotional

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > physical infidelity

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So I will suggest go inner,do

> > > > meditation,

> > > > > > > > express

> > > > > > > > > > yourself ,try different

> > understanding

> > > > > > methods.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- Rup Krishen Baqaya

> > <rkbaqaya>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Yes Raghu saturn in the

> seventh.In

> > > > fact i

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > thinking about saturn in the

> > > > eighth,but

> > > > > > let ur

> > > > > > > > view

> > > > > > > > > > > prevail.

> > > > > > > > > > > Those with saturn in the

> > seventh

> > > > may

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > enjoy

> > > > > > > > > > > the fortune of being in the

> > company of

> > > > a

> > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > spouse

> > > > > > > > > > > for long.The spouse could fall

> > sick or

> > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > > > > die.Otherwise the spouse may be

> a

> > sad

> > > > kind

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > person

> > > > > > > > > > > with no zest for life.In the

> > > > horoscopes of

> > > > > > > > females

> > > > > > > > > > > saturn in seventh may indicate

> > > > marriage

> > > > > > with a

> > > > > > > > > > > widower or an old person.The

> > native

> > > > may be

> > > > > > > > > > > thin,sickly and without much

> > > > > > enthusiasm.Des

> > > > > > > > not talk

> > > > > > > > > > > much.Has a feeling of

> > servitude.May be

> > > > > > immoral

> > > > > > > > > > > sexually.

> > > > > > > > > > > It inclines one to be in the

> > > > professions

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > contractor,mining(Coal and

> > > > iron),agency of

> > > > > > > > foreign

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