3# Re:Which are the most important, Chart, Dasas or Transits,--> Mark

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Hi Mark,

 

Very well,than if let me create some example that will

help me in understanding better.

 

1)Libra rising,Venus in 7th.and 4 planets

Mars,Jupiter,Saturn and Rahu in 11th.While Mercury and

Ketu in 5th.So as per you which planet is most

influential for these chart.Consider all planets are

within 5 degrees to 20 degrees.

 

2)Jupiter in Libra rising.Saturn and Mars in

12th.while Rahu in 9th House.sun and Mercury in 7th

house.which Planet is most influential for these

chart.

 

3)Saggitarus risin,Venus in 1st house.while saturn in

10th and Jupiter in 4th house.However Sun and Mercury

in 7th house.While Moon in 8th house in cancer.Which

is most strongest and influential in these chart.

 

For above three different criteria which is a most

benefic and malefic planet for a given chart.

 

a)Should we give more importance to conjunction of

more than two planets.Or A strongest is the one which

is exalted or sitting in it's own house or Mahadasa

planet orTransit planet to be strongest for a given

time.

 

b)If malefic for a given chart is exalted in 8th

house.While benefic for a given chart is in trikona in

friendly house, so that individual is going to

influenced by more benefic effect or malefic effect of

dasa is of Malefic and In transit if benefic is a

strongest.So for a given phase or a current time,What

that individual is going to experience.

 

Still more to come..............

 

 

--- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

 

>

> Dear Shripal:

>

> What I do is I look at the person's Sun, Moon &

> Rising Signs,

> first....

>

> Then, I look at the strongest planets in their

> chart.

>

> For example, if a person has their Mercury in Virgo,

> or Gemini,

> then, that'll represent a strong, powerful influence

> which will

> influence the whole rest of their charts....

>

> Most people's charts all have dasa influence,

> transits and their

> charts, but their charts are the most powerful.

>

> Predominantly, I go into the area of their chart,

> indicated by their

> question.....

>

> though there is an initial need to verify their

> Rising sign, as the

> time may be off....

>

> Secondly, the placement of their planets makes a

> difference.

>

> People who have planets in Kendra or Trikona houses,

> tend to

> have more overt influences then if their planets are

> in the

> dustana houses, like the 6th, 8th or 12th....

>

> But, even if they have planets in the 12th, the

> particular

> significance of 'that' will also be important.

>

> ciao

>

>

> Mark K.

>

, Shripal

> <d_shripal> wrote:

> > Hi Mark,

> >

> > After How one should decide what to give more

> > weightage a sign or a house or influence of othe

> > planets.A dasa or a transit.

> >

> > How will you categorise it's effect considering

> all

> > these factors,influence etc and predict it for an

> > individual.what to take first and than next.What

> > things to be considered in broader prospect.

> >

> > Where to start and when to end.

> >

> > I want to know your methind of analysis.

> >

> > --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Shripal & Amit, & All:

> > >

> > > This question is a great one, because it speaks

> to

> > > the very heart of

> > > grasping the wisdom of Jyotish.

> > >

> > > #1 is....

> > > Learning to understand what it means for any

> Planet

> > > to be in a House...

> > >

> > > #2, is to understand that same planet in the

> > > different signs....

> > >

> > > and #3,.... to understand what it means for that

> > > same planet to also be the

> > > lord of other houses, is also very important...

> > >

> > > But, remember, this,...identifing....

> > > figuring out whether a certain Jyotish

> configuration

> > > is positive, benefic,

> > > or negative or malefic, is just the first

> stage....

> > >

> > > the 2nd and even more important part, is

> figuring

> > > out how we can change

> > > that, or any malefic situation into a more

> positive

> > > one!

> > >

> > > Now, today, that's my most interesting.... part!

> > >

> > > Another way of figuring out that 'maleficness',

> is

> > > to ask yourself,

> > > generally,

> > >

> > > 1) identify what is wrong, that you're going

> > > through or wish was

> > > different,....

> > >

> > > In otherwords, go backwards in the analysis.....

> > >

> > > and 2)....once you've identified the problem....

> > >

> > > let's say it's being accident prone,....

> > >

> > > or health, and sickness problems, or losses....

> > >

> > > or lack of self-confidence,...

> > >

> > > or with lack of clarity of mind, or decision

> > > makings....

> > >

> > > or lack of faith....

> > >

> > > with each description of the problem,... you can

> > > fairly easily identify the

> > > Planet that corresponds with that...

> > >

> > > for accident prone, look to Mars...

> > >

> > > for health, and sickness problems and losses,

> Saturn

> > > is probably involved...

> > >

> > > with lack of self-confidence, .... Sun needs to

> be

> > > looked at...

> > >

> > > with lack of clarity of mind, or decision

> > > makings.... look to Mercury....

> > >

> > > and with lack of faith, look to Jupiter....

> > >

> > > etc...

> > >

> > > So, then once you've identified the Planet, then

> > > this will help verify, that

> > > such and such of a Jyotish configuration is

> actually

> > > being malefic....

> > >

> > > This is the technique I've used, especially when

> > > people have strong or

> > > exalted Planets, but, they're still experiencing

> the

> > > negative or malefic

> > > sides of that planet.

> > >

> > > For example, some Exalted Saturn people still

> have a

> > > lot of Saturn grief,

> > > and even though there Saturn may be in a good

> house,

> > > there still must be a

> > > reason why it's acting malefically...

> > >

> > > Then, I realized, that even with a good planet,

> one

> > > can still experience the

> > > negative side of it.

> > >

> > > Look at Hitler, and Saddam Hussein, who both had

> > > their Exalted Sun's in

> > > Aries...

> > > though these examples are also about the fact

> that

> > > their other planets

> > > weren't strong enough to balance their very good

> > > Suns...

> > >

> > > but you get the idea...

> > >

> > > I have several friends who have Exalted Saturns

> in

> > > their first and 12th

> > > houses....

> > >

> > > Some of these people find themselves way out of

> > > balance, and experiencing

> > > the very uncomfortableness of a big, Saturn

> problem,

> > > inspite of their

> > > supposedly good Saturn's....

> > >

> > > Hope this helps...

> > >

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > >

> > > Mark K.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Shripal <d_shripal>

> > > Spirituality_Astrology

> > > Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:54:10 -0800 (PST)

> > > vedic astrology

> > > [spirituality_Astrology] 8# Re: Saturn

> in

> > > the 7th --> I's not

> > > about Good or Bad

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Amit,

> > >

> > > No not at all,when any planet is in any house,

> that

> > > means it is in some sign and according to that

> it

> > > signifies some qualities through that,so you

> have to

> > > understand those qualities and than act in order

> to

> > > revert if they are bad and enhance if those are

> > > Good.

> > >

> > > Know how you decide qualities are Good or

> Bad.That

> > > will be in next posting,got to go for a Lunch

> bye...

> > >

> > >

> > > --- ak_131 <agrawal.amitk@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shriphal ji,

> > > > Can we say same results for saturn being

> > > > exalted , debeliated

> > > > and being in the same house?

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Amit

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology,

> Shripal

> > > > <d_shripal> wrote:

> > > > > Hi Partap and All memebers,

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't think any planets give really that

> bad

> > > > results

> > > > > in any house.Its about exploring that

> House.

> > > > >

> > > > > First we have to understand a planets and

> it's

> > > > > prolictive things towards one's Life.than

> where

> > > > that

> > > > > planets is placed, that in in what house,for

> > > > example

> > > > > Saturn is placed in 7th house.So what does

> that

> > > > Satunr

> > > > > signifies and what 7th house signifies.Than

> for

> > > a

> > > > > given Lagna it is Karaka of what Houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > As I have given my general prediction that:

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

-------------------------

> > > > > Let us first understand about 7th house in

> > > brief,

> > > > it

> > > > > is about marriage,marriage partner and open

> > > > > enemies.The characteristics which are valued

> in

> > > > > others, and which are sought in a partner,

> are

> > > > > symbolised by this house as well as the

> > > > > characteristics which are possessed by our

> > > enemies

> > > > and

> > > > > through which we are vulnerable to

> opposition.

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn is very strong. Saturn makes a person

> > > more

> > > > > attaracted towards isolation,rejection,pain

> and

> > > > > disappointment until he re-orient himself

> for a

> > > > inner

> > > > > search.Marriage is always accompanied by

> > > darkness,

> > > > so

> > > > > matching should be properly done.Here Saturn

> > > > signifies

> > > > > difficulty in marriage and any other

> > > > relationship.It

> > > > > is always a other person's fault.So

> happiness or

> > > > > unhappy,luck or unluck always comes from

> > > > > opponenets.Commonly, isolation or aloneness

> is

> > > one

> > > > > sort of restriction.

> > > > >

> > > > > Partner is too serious,older although

> > > > > faithful,financially solvent and stable.But

> > > > marital

> > > > > bliss is inhibited.Sometimes he is

> possessive

> > > and

> > > > > demanding, or he may bea disappointment

> simply

> > > > > because he is incompatible, or abandons the

> > > > > individual, or causes hurt through emotional

> or

> > > > > physical infidelity

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

----------

> > > -----

> > > > > So I will suggest go inner,do meditation,

> > > express

> > > > > yourself ,try different understanding

> methods.

> > > > >

> > > > > So in order to get a good results for a

> person

> > > > having

> > > > > a Saturn in 7th House, he has to create a

> > > > > understanding about his partner or wife,

> What

> > > > > qualities thety are having and than work

> that

> > > > out.So

> > > > > to tackle Saturn you have to be more

> > > understanding

> > > > > person,go inner side rather than going

> > > > outside,don't

> > > > > try to win by opposition,but rather be like

> > > > Mahatma

> > > > > Gandhi,believe in non-violence and faith and

> > > > > confidence i oneself.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you will act against saturn,than you are

> > > bound

> > > > to

> > > > > get all bad results that I have said

> above.So

> > > it's

> > > > > more about understanding and than action for

> > > your

> > > > > understanding.And that has to come and it

> can be

> > > > from

> > > > > anywhere.

> > > > >

> > > > > More you desire,morer you are Happy in your

> > > Life.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- partap111 <rbcalla> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Parkash ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I thought Saturn is not good for 7 thouse.

> > > > > > Very few people can take maturity needed

> to

> > > > > > understand Saturn in

> > > > > > 7th House.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Partap

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > navlakshya, mangesh

> > > > > > ramnathkar

> > > > > > <mangeshrr> wrote:

> > > > > > > Thanks Prakash

> > > > > > > Can you suggest in Products in which I

> can

> > > Do

> > > > > > > Bussiness ?

> > > > > > > Regarding my Family, they are Middle

> class

> > > > Family

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > All Money was spent on me and my two

> > > brothers

> > > > > > > education, My dad made me a Computer

> > > Engineer,

> > > > my

> > > > > > > elder Brother did Pharmacy then did MBA,

> m

> > > > younger

> > > > > > > Borther just completed Architecture, has

> > > given

> > > > GRE

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > applying to different colleges in USA,

> HE is

> > > > > > planning

> > > > > > > to come to USA this year...

> > > > > > > Any way when my Dad retired, He was in

> bad

> > > > shape,

> > > > > > > Financially and emotional, becasue of

> the

> > > fact

> > > > he

> > > > > > had

> > > > > > > no investments what-so-ever, He invested

> in

> > > > his

> > > > > > Kids'

> > > > > > > education

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > MangeshR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- Vedic Astrologer - Prakash

> > > > > > > <prakashkandpal> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn the dhanakaraka in your case

> > > occupies

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > > > house of

> > > > > > > > business/partners. So the money will

> come

> > > > from

> > > > > > > > business

> > > > > > > > largely. Saturn's aspect on Capricorn

> is

> > > > good -

> > > > > > > > increase

> > > > > > > > enhancement in career will be good.

> > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > > > presence in

> > > > > > > > 7th also reminds me about one more

> thing

> > > > that

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > family

> > > > > > > > may be owning stocks/shares in

> companies

> > > or

> > > > > > > > factories of

> > > > > > > > its own. Yet I think you may not be

> having

> > > > very

> > > > > > > > steady

> > > > > > > > relationships in your family though

> being

> > > an

> > > > > > > > orthodox and

> > > > > > > > deep rooted thinker yourself.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You may not have been an activie

> sportsman

> > > > > > (physical

> > > > > > > > games)

> > > > > > > > but in mental you may have strong

> > > interest.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Prakash Kandpal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- mangesh ramnathkar

> <mangeshrr>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > > > > Let me give my experience ..

> > > > > > > > > I'm Capri Asc

> > > > > > > > > Saturn is 7 th house

> > > > > > > > > Birht date 28 feb 1976 4.24am Mumbai

> > > India

> > > > > > > > > I do have troubles with relationship

> as

> > > > well

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > Contracts but to be honest, I love

> it as

> > > I

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > few

> > > > > > > > > partners but the Best you can ever

> get,

> > > > they

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > Loyal, Honest and the very few

> people I

> > > > care

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > > MangeshR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- Vedic Astrologer - Prakash

> > > > > > > > > <prakashkandpal> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > U see Saturn is 11th from Moon and

> is

> > > in

> > > > one

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > greatest

> > > > > > > > > > friends sign by virtue of being in

> > > > Pisces.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Occupies favourable position from

> both

> > > > its

> > > > > > sign

> > > > > > > > > > Capricorn

> > > > > > > > > > and Aquarius i.e. 3rd from 5th and

> 2nd

> > > > from

> > > > > > 6th.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 5th lord

> > > > > > > > > > in 7th is a rajayoga in any case.

> > > From

> > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > > > > becomes

> > > > > > > > > > YK and occupies 11th house so all

> in

> > > all

> > > > > > good is

> > > > > > > > > > indicated.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 3rd house pertaining to Mars gives

> > > > sportsman

> > > > > > > > spirit

> > > > > > > > > > or high

> > > > > > > > > > involvement is sports etc.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Prakash Kandpal

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > One of the individual's I came

> > > across

> > > > > > (can't

> > > > > > > > share

> > > > > > > > > > data,

> > > > > > > > > > > sorry) has

> > > > > > > > > > > kanya rising, saturn in 7th.

> Married

> > > a

> > > > > > > > classfellow

> > > > > > > > > > at age

> > > > > > > > > > > of 22 -

> > > > > > > > > > > handsome guy, physician and

> > > > > > semi-professional

> > > > > > > > > > sportsman,

> > > > > > > > > > > same age +/-

> > > > > > > > > > > 1 year or less, has a wonderful

> > > > marriage,

> > > > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > > > beautiful

> > > > > > > > > > > kids, lot

> > > > > > > > > > > richer than anyone else in her

> six

> > > > > > generations

> > > > > > > > > > (maybe

> > > > > > > > > > > more) before

> > > > > > > > > > > including around (contemporary)

> --

> > > > > > brilliant

> > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > along,

> > > > > > > > > > > very gifted

> > > > > > > > > > > and achieved a lot already. Very

> > > > > > disciplined

> > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > very beginning

> > > > > > > > > > > of life. As an aside, has two

> > > > headlines!

> > > > > > Very

> > > > > > > > > > endearing

> > > > > > > > > > > personality,

> > > > > > > > > > > nothing saturnine about her. Has

> > > moon

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > ninth.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> navlakshya,

> > > > Shripal

> > > > > > > > > > > <d_shripal> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rupji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Let us first understand about

> 7th

> > > > house

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > brief, it

> > > > > > > > > > > > is about marriage,marriage

> partner

> > > > and

> > > > > > open

> > > > > > > > > > > > enemies.The characteristics

> which

> > > > are

> > > > > > valued

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > others, and which are sought

> in a

> > > > > > partner,

> > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > symbolised by this house as

> well

> > > as

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > characteristics which are

> > > possessed

> > > > by

> > > > > > our

> > > > > > > > > > enemies and

> > > > > > > > > > > > through which we are

> vulnerable to

> > > > > > > > opposition.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Know saturn in 7th is digbala,

> > > very

> > > > > > strong.

> > > > > > > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > > > > > > makes a person more attaracted

> > > > towards

> > > > > > > > > > > > isolation,rejection,pain and

> > > > > > disappointment

> > > > > > > > > > until he

> > > > > > > > > > > > re-orient himself for a inner

> > > > > > > > search.Marriage is

> > > > > > > > > > > > always accompanied by

> darkness, so

> > > > > > matching

> > > > > > > > > > should be

> > > > > > > > > > > > properly done.Here Saturn

> > > signifies

> > > > > > > > difficulty

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > marriage and any other

> > > > relationship.It

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > other person's fault.So

> happiness

> > > or

> > > > > > > > > > unhappy,luck or

> > > > > > > > > > > > unluck always comes from

> > > > > > > > opponenets.Commonly,

> > > > > > > > > > > > isolation or aloneness is one

> sort

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > restriction.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Partner is too serious,older

> > > > although

> > > > > > > > > > > > faithful,financially solvent

> and

> > > > > > stable.But

> > > > > > > > > > marital

> > > > > > > > > > > > bliss is inhibited.Sometimes

> he is

> > > > > > > > possessive

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > demanding, or he may bea

> > > > disappointment

> > > > > > > > simply

> > > > > > > > > > > > because he is incompatible, or

> > > > abandons

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > individual, or causes hurt

> through

> > > > > > emotional

> > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > > > physical infidelity

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > So I will suggest go inner,do

> > > > > > meditation,

> > > > > > > > > > express

> > > > > > > > > > > > yourself ,try different

> > > > understanding

> > > > > > > > methods.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rup Krishen Baqaya

> > > > <rkbaqaya>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Raghu saturn in the

> > > seventh.In

> > > > > > fact i

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking about saturn in the

> > > > > > eighth,but

> > > > > > > > let ur

> > > > > > > > > > view

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> > > > > > a

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in seventh may

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