Varied opinions on marriage compatibilityhave confused me.

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Hello Sally, I know Matt for one, goes by the Systems Approach which takes each

chart for itself. If the person has alot of afflictions then marriage with

them, is difficult obviously. This is a simple yet effective approach. Aloha,

Sally

Learned Gurus and all,Pardon me but this example very much resembles what we

find in westernastrology. Mixed possibilities and differences of opinion over

the samecharts.Sally H > Dear Gurus,> > Thanks to all gurus for their replies

to my query about my possible> marriage compatibility with a person who is ten

year elder to me. I> received five varied opinions, which I am attaching below

for the> benefit of fellow junior learning people. It seems at times, varied>

opinions rather confuse the person- decision rather become more> difficult and

complicated. Any comments by Gurus on this. See the> varied opinion after my

query below.> > Thanks and Jai Sri Krishna,> > MG> > My query was:> > Dear

sirs/madam,> > Please help me with the marriage compatibility of the following

two> persons [(I am the girl partner in the alliance and as such like the>

impressive persona of the boy)]> > Girl: Place of Birth: Amritsar, India (Lat.

31 N 35, Long. 74 E 53)> Date of Birth:8th January 1982(02:27 am)> > Boy: Place

of Birth: Jammu, India (Lat. 32 N 42, Long. 74 E 52)> Date Of birth:14th April

1972 (20:23 pm).> > I am a little bit confused due to the age difference

between us.> Thanks,> MG> > > > > > Opinion 1:> > Dear MG,> I quickly checked

your (girl's) and boy's charts using junior Jyotish> free software. While SA

does not believe in MANGALIK dosh, you> need> to know that you both have

MANGALIKA dosh in your charts as> explained> below. While it may get cancelled

being in both charts, I await SA> analysis by others. Both of you have

similarities in your Birth> Chart showing ASC as LIBRA Rasi (ruled by VENUS),

and 7th> House (of> Spouse/Marriage) is ruled by ARIES Rasi (ruled by MARS).> >

For you: MARS is in your 12th House w/SATURN in Virgo Rasi> (sign of> MERCURY)

and your ASC is Libra--sign of VENUS with> JUPITER in it; and> your NAVAMSHA

ASC has JUPITER in Aquarius--sign of> SATURN; good thing> is JUPITER is in ASC

ib both your charts--JANMA and> NAVAMSHA. This> MANGALIK dosh, per classical

texts, manifests itself if married> before 28 years of age, which will be TRUE

in your case, but not the> boy's.> > For Boy: MARS is in his 8th house w/SATURN

and VENUS> (significator> of Wife) in Taurus Rasi (sign of VENUS) and his ASC is

Libra--sign> of> VENUS. Boy's NAVAMSHA chart shows ASC in Pisces with> RAHU in

it and> KETU in 7th House (of Spouse,i.e., you and Marriage).> > NOTE: NAVAMSHA

Chart is mainly seen for Marriage and> Spouse.> > While I do not have time to do

compatibility checks (eight different> ways), I recommend that you owe it to

yourself to do it using free> software on many web sites and may even want to

consult someone> for> doing a remedy known as "ARKH VIVAH" for MANGALIKA> Dosh

as you are> under 28 years of age prior to getting married to any one.> MAY GOD

BLESS YOU!!!> SAM> > > > Opinion 2:> > Dear MG,> >> From his chart we have:> >

NEGATIVES:> > 5th lord Saturn, debilitated in Navamsha, is in the 8th and

afflicted> by Rahu. This is not good for his digestive health or children>

,especially with a weak Sun. He'll also be highly emotional.> > Lagna lord

Venus and Mars, the significator for you the spouse, both> in> the 8th renders

them both weak. With the lagna lord in the 8th and the> Sun weak in infancy,

the vitality and health aren't as good. This is> not good for the marriage.> >

In Navamsha, the nodes are upon the 1/7 axis which is bad for> self/spouse and

the 12th lord of Rasi/7th lord of Navamsha is in the> 8th which also echoes

problems on the conjugal front.> > In the Rasi, 12th lord Mercury is in the 6th

afflicted by Ketu. This> is another indication of weak health, trouble to immune

sytem, and> digestive problems. It also suggests losses in career and

insolvency> from same due to litigations. Problems staying with the spouse,

loss of> comforts etc..> > Looking for losses and litigation to the Shastamsha

you find that Mars> the indicator for partners is debilitated. Mercury(losses)

and> Saturn(speculations) are the house of dispute/litigation.> Interestingly,

both nodes are in Saturn's 5th house of speculation.> Jupiter(entrepreneurial

initiatives) and Moon(career) are in the house> of losses. So, there seem to be

some recurrent themes of problems> with> parnterships, disputes, and litigation

with partners/spouse. The impact> of Mars, karaka for property, upon the 11th,

2nd, and 3rd could> indicate real estate development.> > POSTIVES:> The close

association of Mars and Venus with the MEP provides the> status, charisma, and

easy gains especially from partnerships &> alliances with extra effort. The

Moon's position, as 10th lord, in the> 7th suggests that these gains are career

related rather than from> spouse (you).> > The strength and good placement of

Jupiter shows strong morals,> generosity, and benevolence. Jupiter's aspect to

the Moon gives> entrepreneurial initiatives with partners.> > The Sun's

placement as karaka for income in the 7th of partners is> good> and creates a

connection between these two but the infancy of the> Sun> keeps the results to

a minimum.> > Overall, the chart is just OK. There are some serious problems he

will> face in respect to business and litigation. The indications for him for>

his spouse(potentially you) are poor also.> >> From YOUR chart:> > NEGATIVES:>

> There are no close afflictions in the chart which is quite excellent.> >

Moon, Mars, and Saturn, howevcer, are weak by placement. 4th lord> Moon> in the

8th isn't good for the career. The 7th lord in the 12th isn't> good for the

spouse. Saturn, the 5th lord, in the 12th isn't good for> the children or

digestive system.> > POSITIVES:> > The placement of Jupiter in the 1st house

close to the MEPs of the 1,> 5th, 7th, and 9th as 3rd lord shows great

ambition, intelligence,> seeking for a spouse, and good fortune from efforts

and> entrepreneurial> initiatives. It also give great moral character. This is

especially so> with the lagnesh Venus in close proximity to the 4th house MEP.>

> The placement and strength of the Sun connects income with> entrepreneurial

initiatives.> > The good placement of Mercury, unafflicting in the chart,

insures good> comforts, staying with the spouse, and a comfortable and

luxurious> home.> > Overall, you have a very good chart. The close influence of

Mars,> Jupiter, and Venus (all FBs) to the house MEPs is excellent. The lack> of

any afflictions is excellent. By strengthening of Mars, Saturn, and> Moon (who

are weak by placement) you would enjoy greater succes> in> matters related to

spouse,children, and career, respectively.> > I would recommend you pass on

this alliance. His chart shows too> many> close afflictions for his life with

you to be pleasant and peaceful.> The Mars/Venus combination in his chart gives

the charisma you are> attracted to but you have to look at the whole package and

there is a> lot of garbage there you'd do better to avoid.> > For you both as

Librans, propitiations to Mercury, Rahu, and Ketu> are> required.> > Peace and

blessings,> > Matt> > > > Opinion 3:> >> MATCHING OF CHARTS for Marriage As

per KP>> Principles>> Based on articles by Kuppu Ganapathi of>> DELHI>> >> >

---->> >>

BOY: BOY >> GIRL GIRL>> S/O D/O>> >>

GOTHRAM: >> Born on 14 - 4 - 1972 TIME 20 - 23 8>> - 1 - 1982 TIME

2 - 27>> PLACE JAMMU (TAWI) J& K>> AMRITSAR PUNJAB>> STAR

Ashwini-PADA 4>> Mrigshira-PADA 1>> >> CRITERION >> MARKS>> 1

CHARACTERISTICS COMPATIBILITY>> 100>> 2 HARMONY IN MARRIED LIFE>> 0>> 3

ATTITUDES AND URGES>> 100>> 4 GENERAL HAPPINESS>> 100>> 5 MUTUAL

UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN COUPLES>> AFTER MARRIAGE 75>> 6 PLEASURE,HAPPINESS

DUE TO CHILD BIRTH>> AFTER MARRIAGE 100>> 7 GENERAL SUITABILITY FOR

MARRIAGE>> 85>> 8 LIKELY HOOD OF MARRAIAGE WITH THIS BOY>> AND GIRL

100>> 9 SMOOTHNESS OF MARRIED LIFE>> 67>> 10 WETHER THE PERIOD LORDS NOW

OPERATING> IN>> BOTH CHARTS>> NOW INDICATE DESIRABILITY OF MATCHING>> FOR

MARRIAGE 34>> >> TOTAL >> 761>> Matching Percentage is>> 76%>>

BEST MATCHING A VERY HAPPY MARRIED LIFE>> FORSEEN>> BOYs Mangala : MANGALA

DOSHA Seen>> DOSHA is Mitigated as in VEN Sign>> GIRLs Mangala : MANGALA DOSHA

Seen>> DOSHA is mitigated as SATurn aspects>> Mars>> JOINT M DOSHA :>> BOYs

Children: CHILDREN FORSEEN>> GIRLs Children: CHILDREN FORSEEN>> RAHU LAGNA FROM

GIRL SATISFIED>> GUNAS OF ALL PLANETS OF BOY AND GIRL>> MOON TO MOON 23.5

VERY GOOD>> >> VERY GOOD PROSPECTS OF THE TWO GETTING>> MARRIED>> >> GOOD LUCK>

> > > > > Opinion 4:> > Here is the compatability done for the boy and the girl>

> Groom:>

----> Planet

Longitude Rasi House D/R Nakshatra NakPad> NakLord>

---->

Ascendant 199:32:9 7 1 D Swati 4 Rah> Sun

1:16:43 1 7 D Ashwini 1 Ket> Moon 12:13:23 1

7 D Ashwini 4 Ket> Mars 48:31:32 2 8 D Rohini

3 Mon> Mercury 340:12:34 12 6 D UttaraBhadra 3 Sat>

Jupiter 254:40:52 9 3 D Purvashada 1 Ven> Venus

46:51:35 2 8 D Rohini 3 Mon> Saturn 40:43:59 2

8 D Rohini 1 Mon> Rahu 277:36:49 10 4 R

Uttarashada 4 Sun> Ketu 97:36:49 4 10 R Pushya 2

Sat> ---->

> Bride:>

----> Planet

Longitude Rasi House D/R Nakshatra NakPad> NakLord>

---->

Ascendant 195:47:36 7 1 D Swati 3 Rah> Sun

263:39:5 9 3 D Purvashada 4 Ven> Moon 56:21:22 2

8 D Mrigasira 1 Mar> Mars 166:9:8 6 12 D Hasta

2 Mon> Mercury 279:46:12 10 4 D Uttarashada 4 Sun>

Jupiter 193:26:0 7 1 D Swati 3 Rah> Venus

284:15:47 10 4 R Shravana 2 Mon> Saturn 178:9:55 6

12 D Chitra 2 Mar> Rahu 89:13:18 3 9 R Punarvasu

3 Jup> Ketu 269:13:18 9 3 R Uttarashada 1 Sun>

---->

---------------------> Planets Relationship> --------------------->

Ascendant 1-1> Sun 5-9> Mercury 3-11> Venus 5-9>

Mars 3-11> Jupiter 3-11> Saturn 5-9> Moon

2-12> Rahu/Ketu 6-8> ---------------------> The planetary relationship

looks good except that Moon has 2-12> relation in both the horoscopes but then

Mars and Venus are neutral> to each other who rules Aries and Taurus. So that

factor can be> ignored. Rahu/Ketu in 6/8 should be fine as all other planetary>

relations are good either 5-9 or 3-11.> > Compatibility>

---->

Parameters Results Groom Bride>

----> Varna

1 Kshatriya Vaishyas> Vashya 2

Chatuspad Chatuspad> Tara 1.5 Ashwini(5)

Mrigasira> (24/9R6)> Yoni 1 Horse Serpent>

Graha-Maitri 3 Aries (Mars) Taurus (Venus)> Gana

6 Deva Deva> Bhakoota 0 Aries-Taurus (2)

Taurus-Aries> (12)> Nadi 8 Adi Madhya>

----> Total

22.5 >

----> *: Some

Authorities say that if the brides nakshtra is 2nd from> groom's nakshatra then

it is not as malefic as vice-versa.> > Here they get 22.5 points, which I think

are good besides the fact> that Bhakoota dosha can be deemed to be cancelled

according to> some> if the bride is 2nd from the grooms rasi.> > Dosha:> > Acc.

to Dr. B.V. Raman here it the Dosha table:>

---------------------------> State

8th and 7th 4th, 12th and 2nd>

---------------------------> Mars Saturn Sun

Mars Saturn Sun> Rahu Rahu> Ketu Ketu>

---------------------------> > Debility

100 75 50 50 37.5 25> Inimical 90 67.5 45 45

33.75 22.5> Neutral 80 60 40 40 30 20> Friendly

70 52.5 35 35 26.25 17.5> Own 60 45 30

30 22.5 15> Exaltation 50 37.5 25 25 18.75 12.5>

---------------------------> Groom:>

Mars,Saturn in 8th house = 80 (Neutral) + 52.5 (Friendly)> Sun in 7th house =

25 (Exaltation)> Rahu in 4th house = 26.25 (Friendly)> Total: 183.75> > Bride:>

Mars, Saturn in 12th house = 40 (Neutral) + 26.25 (Friendly)> Total: 66.25> > If

you look at the dosha table, it seems the groom has more dosha> than the bride.

The important factor in the chart other than that is> Jupiter is aspecting the

7th house in both the cases and Mars and> Saturn are toghether. Also, the

groom's age is more than 27, so its> good.> > Conclusion: Looking at the

current Dasa and other factors besides> iterated above I would say that the

Match is Fair. So Marriage can be> done between these two.> > > > Opinion 5:> >

Both you and your fiance were born under the same> nakshatra, but on different

padas, which shows that> both of you are fairly compatible. You should request>

someone to compute the kuta points for your marriage> compatibility (there is a

website that offers free> compatibility analysis). If the points are 16 points>

and above, your success in the marriage will be> increased.> > As noted by

others, you and your fiance have kujadosha> which is a good sign for

compatibility. In my> opinion, the presence of kujadosha in both your charts>

cancel out the negative effects of this yoga.> > Regards,> > John R.> > > > Get

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on 11/14/02 6:46 PM, Sally at sara (AT) lava (DOT) net wrote:

Hello Sally, I know Matt for one, goes by the Systems Approach which takes each

chart for itself. If the person has alot of afflictions then marriage with

them, is difficult obviously. This is a simple yet effective approach. Aloha,

Sally

Hi Sally,

Thanks for your explanation on one reply. It makes sense to me.

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Learned Gurus and all,

Pardon me but this example very much resembles what we find in western

astrology. Mixed possibilities and differences of opinion over the same

charts.

Sally H

> Dear Gurus,

>

> Thanks to all gurus for their replies to my query about my possible

> marriage compatibility with a person who is ten year elder to me. I

> received five varied opinions, which I am attaching below for the

> benefit of fellow junior learning people. It seems at times, varied

> opinions rather confuse the person- decision rather become more

> difficult and complicated. Any comments by Gurus on this. See the

> varied opinion after my query below.

>

> Thanks and Jai Sri Krishna,

>

> MG

>

> My query was:

>

> Dear sirs/madam,

>

> Please help me with the marriage compatibility of the following two

> persons [(I am the girl partner in the alliance and as such like the

> impressive persona of the boy)]

>

> Girl: Place of Birth: Amritsar, India (Lat. 31 N 35, Long. 74 E 53)

> Date of Birth:8th January 1982(02:27 am)

>

> Boy: Place of Birth: Jammu, India (Lat. 32 N 42, Long. 74 E 52)

> Date Of birth:14th April 1972 (20:23 pm).

>

> I am a little bit confused due to the age difference between us.

> Thanks,

> MG

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinion 1:

>

> Dear MG,

> I quickly checked your (girl's) and boy's charts using junior Jyotish

> free software. While SA does not believe in MANGALIK dosh, you

> need

> to know that you both have MANGALIKA dosh in your charts as

> explained

> below. While it may get cancelled being in both charts, I await SA

> analysis by others. Both of you have similarities in your Birth

> Chart showing ASC as LIBRA Rasi (ruled by VENUS), and 7th

> House (of

> Spouse/Marriage) is ruled by ARIES Rasi (ruled by MARS).

>

> For you: MARS is in your 12th House w/SATURN in Virgo Rasi

> (sign of

> MERCURY) and your ASC is Libra--sign of VENUS with

> JUPITER in it; and

> your NAVAMSHA ASC has JUPITER in Aquarius--sign of

> SATURN; good thing

> is JUPITER is in ASC ib both your charts--JANMA and

> NAVAMSHA. This

> MANGALIK dosh, per classical texts, manifests itself if married

> before 28 years of age, which will be TRUE in your case, but not the

> boy's.

>

> For Boy: MARS is in his 8th house w/SATURN and VENUS

> (significator

> of Wife) in Taurus Rasi (sign of VENUS) and his ASC is Libra--sign

> of

> VENUS. Boy's NAVAMSHA chart shows ASC in Pisces with

> RAHU in it and

> KETU in 7th House (of Spouse,i.e., you and Marriage).

>

> NOTE: NAVAMSHA Chart is mainly seen for Marriage and

> Spouse.

>

> While I do not have time to do compatibility checks (eight different

> ways), I recommend that you owe it to yourself to do it using free

> software on many web sites and may even want to consult someone

> for

> doing a remedy known as "ARKH VIVAH" for MANGALIKA

> Dosh as you are

> under 28 years of age prior to getting married to any one.

> MAY GOD BLESS YOU!!!

> SAM

>

>

>

> Opinion 2:

>

> Dear MG,

>

>> From his chart we have:

>

> NEGATIVES:

>

> 5th lord Saturn, debilitated in Navamsha, is in the 8th and afflicted

> by Rahu. This is not good for his digestive health or children

> ,especially with a weak Sun. He'll also be highly emotional.

>

> Lagna lord Venus and Mars, the significator for you the spouse, both

> in

> the 8th renders them both weak. With the lagna lord in the 8th and the

> Sun weak in infancy, the vitality and health aren't as good. This is

> not good for the marriage.

>

> In Navamsha, the nodes are upon the 1/7 axis which is bad for

> self/spouse and the 12th lord of Rasi/7th lord of Navamsha is in the

> 8th which also echoes problems on the conjugal front.

>

> In the Rasi, 12th lord Mercury is in the 6th afflicted by Ketu. This

> is another indication of weak health, trouble to immune sytem, and

> digestive problems. It also suggests losses in career and insolvency

> from same due to litigations. Problems staying with the spouse, loss of

> comforts etc..

>

> Looking for losses and litigation to the Shastamsha you find that Mars

> the indicator for partners is debilitated. Mercury(losses) and

> Saturn(speculations) are the house of dispute/litigation.

> Interestingly, both nodes are in Saturn's 5th house of speculation.

> Jupiter(entrepreneurial initiatives) and Moon(career) are in the house

> of losses. So, there seem to be some recurrent themes of problems

> with

> parnterships, disputes, and litigation with partners/spouse. The impact

> of Mars, karaka for property, upon the 11th, 2nd, and 3rd could

> indicate real estate development.

>

> POSTIVES:

> The close association of Mars and Venus with the MEP provides the

> status, charisma, and easy gains especially from partnerships &

> alliances with extra effort. The Moon's position, as 10th lord, in the

> 7th suggests that these gains are career related rather than from

> spouse (you).

>

> The strength and good placement of Jupiter shows strong morals,

> generosity, and benevolence. Jupiter's aspect to the Moon gives

> entrepreneurial initiatives with partners.

>

> The Sun's placement as karaka for income in the 7th of partners is

> good

> and creates a connection between these two but the infancy of the

> Sun

> keeps the results to a minimum.

>

> Overall, the chart is just OK. There are some serious problems he will

> face in respect to business and litigation. The indications for him for

> his spouse(potentially you) are poor also.

>

>> From YOUR chart:

>

> NEGATIVES:

>

> There are no close afflictions in the chart which is quite excellent.

>

> Moon, Mars, and Saturn, howevcer, are weak by placement. 4th lord

> Moon

> in the 8th isn't good for the career. The 7th lord in the 12th isn't

> good for the spouse. Saturn, the 5th lord, in the 12th isn't good for

> the children or digestive system.

>

> POSITIVES:

>

> The placement of Jupiter in the 1st house close to the MEPs of the 1,

> 5th, 7th, and 9th as 3rd lord shows great ambition, intelligence,

> seeking for a spouse, and good fortune from efforts and

> entrepreneurial

> initiatives. It also give great moral character. This is especially so

> with the lagnesh Venus in close proximity to the 4th house MEP.

>

> The placement and strength of the Sun connects income with

> entrepreneurial initiatives.

>

> The good placement of Mercury, unafflicting in the chart, insures good

> comforts, staying with the spouse, and a comfortable and luxurious

> home.

>

> Overall, you have a very good chart. The close influence of Mars,

> Jupiter, and Venus (all FBs) to the house MEPs is excellent. The lack

> of any afflictions is excellent. By strengthening of Mars, Saturn, and

> Moon (who are weak by placement) you would enjoy greater succes

> in

> matters related to spouse,children, and career, respectively.

>

> I would recommend you pass on this alliance. His chart shows too

> many

> close afflictions for his life with you to be pleasant and peaceful.

> The Mars/Venus combination in his chart gives the charisma you are

> attracted to but you have to look at the whole package and there is a

> lot of garbage there you'd do better to avoid.

>

> For you both as Librans, propitiations to Mercury, Rahu, and Ketu

> are

> required.

>

> Peace and blessings,

>

> Matt

>

>

>

> Opinion 3:

>

>> MATCHING OF CHARTS for Marriage As per KP

>> Principles

>> Based on articles by Kuppu Ganapathi of

>> DELHI

>>

>>

> ----

>>

>> BOY: BOY

>> GIRL GIRL

>> S/O D/O

>>

>> GOTHRAM:

>> Born on 14 - 4 - 1972 TIME 20 - 23 8

>> - 1 - 1982 TIME 2 - 27

>> PLACE JAMMU (TAWI) J& K

>> AMRITSAR PUNJAB

>> STAR Ashwini-PADA 4

>> Mrigshira-PADA 1

>>

>> CRITERION

>> MARKS

>> 1 CHARACTERISTICS COMPATIBILITY

>> 100

>> 2 HARMONY IN MARRIED LIFE

>> 0

>> 3 ATTITUDES AND URGES

>> 100

>> 4 GENERAL HAPPINESS

>> 100

>> 5 MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN COUPLES

>> AFTER MARRIAGE 75

>> 6 PLEASURE,HAPPINESS DUE TO CHILD BIRTH

>> AFTER MARRIAGE 100

>> 7 GENERAL SUITABILITY FOR MARRIAGE

>> 85

>> 8 LIKELY HOOD OF MARRAIAGE WITH THIS BOY

>> AND GIRL 100

>> 9 SMOOTHNESS OF MARRIED LIFE

>> 67

>> 10 WETHER THE PERIOD LORDS NOW OPERATING

> IN

>> BOTH CHARTS

>> NOW INDICATE DESIRABILITY OF MATCHING

>> FOR MARRIAGE 34

>>

>> TOTAL

>> 761

>> Matching Percentage is

>> 76%

>> BEST MATCHING A VERY HAPPY MARRIED LIFE

>> FORSEEN

>> BOYs Mangala : MANGALA DOSHA Seen

>> DOSHA is Mitigated as in VEN Sign

>> GIRLs Mangala : MANGALA DOSHA Seen

>> DOSHA is mitigated as SATurn aspects

>> Mars

>> JOINT M DOSHA :

>> BOYs Children: CHILDREN FORSEEN

>> GIRLs Children: CHILDREN FORSEEN

>> RAHU LAGNA FROM GIRL SATISFIED

>> GUNAS OF ALL PLANETS OF BOY AND GIRL

>> MOON TO MOON 23.5 VERY GOOD

>>

>> VERY GOOD PROSPECTS OF THE TWO GETTING

>> MARRIED

>>

>> GOOD LUCK

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinion 4:

>

> Here is the compatability done for the boy and the girl

>

> Groom:

> ----

> Planet Longitude Rasi House D/R Nakshatra NakPad

> NakLord

> ----

> Ascendant 199:32:9 7 1 D Swati 4 Rah

> Sun 1:16:43 1 7 D Ashwini 1 Ket

> Moon 12:13:23 1 7 D Ashwini 4 Ket

> Mars 48:31:32 2 8 D Rohini 3 Mon

> Mercury 340:12:34 12 6 D UttaraBhadra 3 Sat

> Jupiter 254:40:52 9 3 D Purvashada 1 Ven

> Venus 46:51:35 2 8 D Rohini 3 Mon

> Saturn 40:43:59 2 8 D Rohini 1 Mon

> Rahu 277:36:49 10 4 R Uttarashada 4 Sun

> Ketu 97:36:49 4 10 R Pushya 2 Sat

> ----

>

> Bride:

> ----

> Planet Longitude Rasi House D/R Nakshatra NakPad

> NakLord

> ----

> Ascendant 195:47:36 7 1 D Swati 3 Rah

> Sun 263:39:5 9 3 D Purvashada 4 Ven

> Moon 56:21:22 2 8 D Mrigasira 1 Mar

> Mars 166:9:8 6 12 D Hasta 2 Mon

> Mercury 279:46:12 10 4 D Uttarashada 4 Sun

> Jupiter 193:26:0 7 1 D Swati 3 Rah

> Venus 284:15:47 10 4 R Shravana 2 Mon

> Saturn 178:9:55 6 12 D Chitra 2 Mar

> Rahu 89:13:18 3 9 R Punarvasu 3 Jup

> Ketu 269:13:18 9 3 R Uttarashada 1 Sun

> ----

> ---------------------

> Planets Relationship

> ---------------------

> Ascendant 1-1

> Sun 5-9

> Mercury 3-11

> Venus 5-9

> Mars 3-11

> Jupiter 3-11

> Saturn 5-9

> Moon 2-12

> Rahu/Ketu 6-8

> ---------------------

> The planetary relationship looks good except that Moon has 2-12

> relation in both the horoscopes but then Mars and Venus are neutral

> to each other who rules Aries and Taurus. So that factor can be

> ignored. Rahu/Ketu in 6/8 should be fine as all other planetary

> relations are good either 5-9 or 3-11.

>

> Compatibility

> ----

> Parameters Results Groom Bride

> ----

> Varna 1 Kshatriya Vaishyas

> Vashya 2 Chatuspad Chatuspad

> Tara 1.5 Ashwini(5) Mrigasira

> (24/9R6)

> Yoni 1 Horse Serpent

> Graha-Maitri 3 Aries (Mars) Taurus (Venus)

> Gana 6 Deva Deva

> Bhakoota 0 Aries-Taurus (2) Taurus-Aries

> (12)

> Nadi 8 Adi Madhya

> ----

> Total 22.5

> ----

> *: Some Authorities say that if the brides nakshtra is 2nd from

> groom's nakshatra then it is not as malefic as vice-versa.

>

> Here they get 22.5 points, which I think are good besides the fact

> that Bhakoota dosha can be deemed to be cancelled according to

> some

> if the bride is 2nd from the grooms rasi.

>

> Dosha:

>

> Acc. to Dr. B.V. Raman here it the Dosha table:

> ---------------------------

> State 8th and 7th 4th, 12th and 2nd

> ---------------------------

> Mars Saturn Sun Mars Saturn Sun

> Rahu Rahu

> Ketu Ketu

> ---------------------------

>

> Debility 100 75 50 50 37.5 25

> Inimical 90 67.5 45 45 33.75 22.5

> Neutral 80 60 40 40 30 20

> Friendly 70 52.5 35 35 26.25 17.5

> Own 60 45 30 30 22.5 15

> Exaltation 50 37.5 25 25 18.75 12.5

> ---------------------------

> Groom:

> Mars,Saturn in 8th house = 80 (Neutral) + 52.5 (Friendly)

> Sun in 7th house = 25 (Exaltation)

> Rahu in 4th house = 26.25 (Friendly)

> Total: 183.75

>

> Bride:

> Mars, Saturn in 12th house = 40 (Neutral) + 26.25 (Friendly)

> Total: 66.25

>

> If you look at the dosha table, it seems the groom has more dosha

> than the bride. The important factor in the chart other than that is

> Jupiter is aspecting the 7th house in both the cases and Mars and

> Saturn are toghether. Also, the groom's age is more than 27, so its

> good.

>

> Conclusion: Looking at the current Dasa and other factors besides

> iterated above I would say that the Match is Fair. So Marriage can be

> done between these two.

>

>

>

> Opinion 5:

>

> Both you and your fiance were born under the same

> nakshatra, but on different padas, which shows that

> both of you are fairly compatible. You should request

> someone to compute the kuta points for your marriage

> compatibility (there is a website that offers free

> compatibility analysis). If the points are 16 points

> and above, your success in the marriage will be

> increased.

>

> As noted by others, you and your fiance have kujadosha

> which is a good sign for compatibility. In my

> opinion, the presence of kujadosha in both your charts

> cancel out the negative effects of this yoga.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.

>

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on 11/14/02 6:46 PM, Sally at sara (AT) lava (DOT) net wrote:

Hello Sally, I know Matt for one, goes by the Systems Approach which takes each

chart for itself. If the person has alot of afflictions then marriage with

them, is difficult obviously. This is a simple yet effective approach. Aloha,

Sally

The T key on my keyboard jammed Sally.. in case you wonder what all those t's

were about.. and I was not able to erase them.

Sally

Learned Gurus and all,

Pardon me but this example very much resembles what we find in western

astrology. Mixed possibilities and differences of opinion over the same

charts.

Sally H

> Dear Gurus,

>

> Thanks to all gurus for their replies to my query about my possible

> marriage compatibility with a person who is ten year elder to me. I

> received five varied opinions, which I am attaching below for the

> benefit of fellow junior learning people. It seems at times, varied

> opinions rather confuse the person- decision rather become more

> difficult and complicated. Any comments by Gurus on this. See the

> varied opinion after my query below.

>

> Thanks and Jai Sri Krishna,

>

> MG

>

> My query was:

>

> Dear sirs/madam,

>

> Please help me with the marriage compatibility of the following two

> persons [(I am the girl partner in the alliance and as such like the

> impressive persona of the boy)]

>

> Girl: Place of Birth: Amritsar, India (Lat. 31 N 35, Long. 74 E 53)

> Date of Birth:8th January 1982(02:27 am)

>

> Boy: Place of Birth: Jammu, India (Lat. 32 N 42, Long. 74 E 52)

> Date Of birth:14th April 1972 (20:23 pm).

>

> I am a little bit confused due to the age difference between us.

> Thanks,

> MG

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinion 1:

>

> Dear MG,

> I quickly checked your (girl's) and boy's charts using junior Jyotish

> free software. While SA does not believe in MANGALIK dosh, you

> need

> to know that you both have MANGALIKA dosh in your charts as

> explained

> below. While it may get cancelled being in both charts, I await SA

> analysis by others. Both of you have similarities in your Birth

> Chart showing ASC as LIBRA Rasi (ruled by VENUS), and 7th

> House (of

> Spouse/Marriage) is ruled by ARIES Rasi (ruled by MARS).

>

> For you: MARS is in your 12th House w/SATURN in Virgo Rasi

> (sign of

> MERCURY) and your ASC is Libra--sign of VENUS with

> JUPITER in it; and

> your NAVAMSHA ASC has JUPITER in Aquarius--sign of

> SATURN; good thing

> is JUPITER is in ASC ib both your charts--JANMA and

> NAVAMSHA. This

> MANGALIK dosh, per classical texts, manifests itself if married

> before 28 years of age, which will be TRUE in your case, but not the

> boy's.

>

> For Boy: MARS is in his 8th house w/SATURN and VENUS

> (significator

> of Wife) in Taurus Rasi (sign of VENUS) and his ASC is Libra--sign

> of

> VENUS. Boy's NAVAMSHA chart shows ASC in Pisces with

> RAHU in it and

> KETU in 7th House (of Spouse,i.e., you and Marriage).

>

> NOTE: NAVAMSHA Chart is mainly seen for Marriage and

> Spouse.

>

> While I do not have time to do compatibility checks (eight different

> ways), I recommend that you owe it to yourself to do it using free

> software on many web sites and may even want to consult someone

> for

> doing a remedy known as "ARKH VIVAH" for MANGALIKA

> Dosh as you are

> under 28 years of age prior to getting married to any one.

> MAY GOD BLESS YOU!!!

> SAM

>

>

>

> Opinion 2:

>

> Dear MG,

>

>> From his chart we have:

>

> NEGATIVES:

>

> 5th lord Saturn, debilitated in Navamsha, is in the 8th and afflicted

> by Rahu. This is not good for his digestive health or children

> ,especially with a weak Sun. He'll also be highly emotional.

>

> Lagna lord Venus and Mars, the significator for you the spouse, both

> in

> the 8th renders them both weak. With the lagna lord in the 8th and the

> Sun weak in infancy, the vitality and health aren't as good. This is

> not good for the marriage.

>

> In Navamsha, the nodes are upon the 1/7 axis which is bad for

> self/spouse and the 12th lord of Rasi/7th lord of Navamsha is in the

> 8th which also echoes problems on the conjugal front.

>

> In the Rasi, 12th lord Mercury is in the 6th afflicted by Ketu. This

> is another indication of weak health, trouble to immune sytem, and

> digestive problems. It also suggests losses in career and insolvency

> from same due to litigations. Problems staying with the spouse, loss of

> comforts etc..

>

> Looking for losses and litigation to the Shastamsha you find that Mars

> the indicator for partners is debilitated. Mercury(losses) and

> Saturn(speculations) are the house of dispute/litigation.

> Interestingly, both nodes are in Saturn's 5th house of speculation.

> Jupiter(entrepreneurial initiatives) and Moon(career) are in the house

> of losses. So, there seem to be some recurrent themes of problems

> with

> parnterships, disputes, and litigation with partners/spouse. The impact

> of Mars, karaka for property, upon the 11th, 2nd, and 3rd could

> indicate real estate development.

>

> POSTIVES:

> The close association of Mars and Venus with the MEP provides the

> status, charisma, and easy gains especially from partnerships &

> alliances with extra effort. The Moon's position, as 10th lord, in the

> 7th suggests that these gains are career related rather than from

> spouse (you).

>

> The strength and good placement of Jupiter shows strong morals,

> generosity, and benevolence. Jupiter's aspect to the Moon gives

> entrepreneurial initiatives with partners.

>

> The Sun's placement as karaka for income in the 7th of partners is

> good

> and creates a connection between these two but the infancy of the

> Sun

> keeps the results to a minimum.

>

> Overall, the chart is just OK. There are some serious problems he will

> face in respect to business and litigation. The indications for him for

> his spouse(potentially you) are poor also.

>

>> From YOUR chart:

>

> NEGATIVES:

>

> There are no close afflictions in the chart which is quite excellent.

>

> Moon, Mars, and Saturn, howevcer, are weak by placement. 4th lord

> Moon

> in the 8th isn't good for the career. The 7th lord in the 12th isn't

> good for the spouse. Saturn, the 5th lord, in the 12th isn't good for

> the children or digestive system.

>

> POSITIVES:

>

> The placement of Jupiter in the 1st house close to the MEPs of the 1,

> 5th, 7th, and 9th as 3rd lord shows great ambition, intelligence,

> seeking for a spouse, and good fortune from efforts and

> entrepreneurial

> initiatives. It also give great moral character. This is especially so

> with the lagnesh Venus in close proximity to the 4th house MEP.

>

> The placement and strength of the Sun connects income with

> entrepreneurial initiatives.

>

> The good placement of Mercury, unafflicting in the chart, insures good

> comforts, staying with the spouse, and a comfortable and luxurious

> home.

>

> Overall, you have a very good chart. The close influence of Mars,

> Jupiter, and Venus (all FBs) to the house MEPs is excellent. The lack

> of any afflictions is excellent. By strengthening of Mars, Saturn, and

> Moon (who are weak by placement) you would enjoy greater succes

> in

> matters related to spouse,children, and career, respectively.

>

> I would recommend you pass on this alliance. His chart shows too

> many

> close afflictions for his life with you to be pleasant and peaceful.

> The Mars/Venus combination in his chart gives the charisma you are

> attracted to but you have to look at the whole package and there is a

> lot of garbage there you'd do better to avoid.

>

> For you both as Librans, propitiations to Mercury, Rahu, and Ketu

> are

> required.

>

> Peace and blessings,

>

> Matt

>

>

>

> Opinion 3:

>

>> MATCHING OF CHARTS for Marriage As per KP

>> Principles

>> Based on articles by Kuppu Ganapathi of

>> DELHI

>>

>>

> ----

>>

>> BOY: BOY

>> GIRL GIRL

>> S/O D/O

>>

>> GOTHRAM:

>> Born on 14 - 4 - 1972 TIME 20 - 23 8

>> - 1 - 1982 TIME 2 - 27

>> PLACE JAMMU (TAWI) J& K

>> AMRITSAR PUNJAB

>> STAR Ashwini-PADA 4

>> Mrigshira-PADA 1

>>

>> CRITERION

>> MARKS

>> 1 CHARACTERISTICS COMPATIBILITY

>> 100

>> 2 HARMONY IN MARRIED LIFE

>> 0

>> 3 ATTITUDES AND URGES

>> 100

>> 4 GENERAL HAPPINESS

>> 100

>> 5 MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN COUPLES

>> AFTER MARRIAGE 75

>> 6 PLEASURE,HAPPINESS DUE TO CHILD BIRTH

>> AFTER MARRIAGE 100

>> 7 GENERAL SUITABILITY FOR MARRIAGE

>> 85

>> 8 LIKELY HOOD OF MARRAIAGE WITH THIS BOY

>> AND GIRL 100

>> 9 SMOOTHNESS OF MARRIED LIFE

>> 67

>> 10 WETHER THE PERIOD LORDS NOW OPERATING

> IN

>> BOTH CHARTS

>> NOW INDICATE DESIRABILITY OF MATCHING

>> FOR MARRIAGE 34

>>

>> TOTAL

>> 761

>> Matching Percentage is

>> 76%

>> BEST MATCHING A VERY HAPPY MARRIED LIFE

>> FORSEEN

>> BOYs Mangala : MANGALA DOSHA Seen

>> DOSHA is Mitigated as in VEN Sign

>> GIRLs Mangala : MANGALA DOSHA Seen

>> DOSHA is mitigated as SATurn aspects

>> Mars

>> JOINT M DOSHA :

>> BOYs Children: CHILDREN FORSEEN

>> GIRLs Children: CHILDREN FORSEEN

>> RAHU LAGNA FROM GIRL SATISFIED

>> GUNAS OF ALL PLANETS OF BOY AND GIRL

>> MOON TO MOON 23.5 VERY GOOD

>>

>> VERY GOOD PROSPECTS OF THE TWO GETTING

>> MARRIED

>>

>> GOOD LUCK

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinion 4:

>

> Here is the compatability done for the boy and the girl

>

> Groom:

> ----

> Planet Longitude Rasi House D/R Nakshatra NakPad

> NakLord

> ----

> Ascendant 199:32:9 7 1 D Swati 4 Rah

> Sun 1:16:43 1 7 D Ashwini 1 Ket

> Moon 12:13:23 1 7 D Ashwini 4 Ket

> Mars 48:31:32 2 8 D Rohini 3 Mon

> Mercury 340:12:34 12 6 D UttaraBhadra 3 Sat

> Jupiter 254:40:52 9 3 D Purvashada 1 Ven

> Venus 46:51:35 2 8 D Rohini 3 Mon

> Saturn 40:43:59 2 8 D Rohini 1 Mon

> Rahu 277:36:49 10 4 R Uttarashada 4 Sun

> Ketu 97:36:49 4 10 R Pushya 2 Sat

> ----

>

> Bride:

> ----

> Planet Longitude Rasi House D/R Nakshatra NakPad

> NakLord

> ----

> Ascendant 195:47:36 7 1 D Swati 3 Rah

> Sun 263:39:5 9 3 D Purvashada 4 Ven

> Moon 56:21:22 2 8 D Mrigasira 1 Mar

> Mars 166:9:8 6 12 D Hasta 2 Mon

> Mercury 279:46:12 10 4 D Uttarashada 4 Sun

> Jupiter 193:26:0 7 1 D Swati 3 Rah

> Venus 284:15:47 10 4 R Shravana 2 Mon

> Saturn 178:9:55 6 12 D Chitra 2 Mar

> Rahu 89:13:18 3 9 R Punarvasu 3 Jup

> Ketu 269:13:18 9 3 R Uttarashada 1 Sun

> ----

> ---------------------

> Planets Relationship

> ---------------------

> Ascendant 1-1

> Sun 5-9

> Mercury 3-11

> Venus 5-9

> Mars 3-11

> Jupiter 3-11

> Saturn 5-9

> Moon 2-12

> Rahu/Ketu 6-8

> ---------------------

> The planetary relationship looks good except that Moon has 2-12

> relation in both the horoscopes but then Mars and Venus are neutral

> to each other who rules Aries and Taurus. So that factor can be

> ignored. Rahu/Ketu in 6/8 should be fine as all other planetary

> relations are good either 5-9 or 3-11.

>

> Compatibility

> ----

> Parameters Results Groom Bride

> ----

> Varna 1 Kshatriya Vaishyas

> Vashya 2 Chatuspad Chatuspad

> Tara 1.5 Ashwini(5) Mrigasira

> (24/9R6)

> Yoni 1 Horse Serpent

> Graha-Maitri 3 Aries (Mars) Taurus (Venus)

> Gana 6 Deva Deva

> Bhakoota 0 Aries-Taurus (2) Taurus-Aries

> (12)

> Nadi 8 Adi Madhya

> ----

> Total 22.5

> ----

> *: Some Authorities say that if the brides nakshtra is 2nd from

> groom's nakshatra then it is not as malefic as vice-versa.

>

> Here they get 22.5 points, which I think are good besides the fact

> that Bhakoota dosha can be deemed to be cancelled according to

> some

> if the bride is 2nd from the grooms rasi.

>

> Dosha:

>

> Acc. to Dr. B.V. Raman here it the Dosha table:

> ---------------------------

> State 8th and 7th 4th, 12th and 2nd

> ---------------------------

> Mars Saturn Sun Mars Saturn Sun

> Rahu Rahu

> Ketu Ketu

> ---------------------------

>

> Debility 100 75 50 50 37.5 25

> Inimical 90 67.5 45 45 33.75 22.5

> Neutral 80 60 40 40 30 20

> Friendly 70 52.5 35 35 26.25 17.5

> Own 60 45 30 30 22.5 15

> Exaltation 50 37.5 25 25 18.75 12.5

> ---------------------------

> Groom:

> Mars,Saturn in 8th house = 80 (Neutral) + 52.5 (Friendly)

> Sun in 7th house = 25 (Exaltation)

> Rahu in 4th house = 26.25 (Friendly)

> Total: 183.75

>

> Bride:

> Mars, Saturn in 12th house = 40 (Neutral) + 26.25 (Friendly)

> Total: 66.25

>

> If you look at the dosha table, it seems the groom has more dosha

> than the bride. The important factor in the chart other than that is

> Jupiter is aspecting the 7th house in both the cases and Mars and

> Saturn are toghether. Also, the groom's age is more than 27, so its

> good.

>

> Conclusion: Looking at the current Dasa and other factors besides

> iterated above I would say that the Match is Fair. So Marriage can be

> done between these two.

>

>

>

> Opinion 5:

>

> Both you and your fiance were born under the same

> nakshatra, but on different padas, which shows that

> both of you are fairly compatible. You should request

> someone to compute the kuta points for your marriage

> compatibility (there is a website that offers free

> compatibility analysis). If the points are 16 points

> and above, your success in the marriage will be

> increased.

>

> As noted by others, you and your fiance have kujadosha

> which is a good sign for compatibility. In my

> opinion, the presence of kujadosha in both your charts

> cancel out the negative effects of this yoga.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.

>

>

>

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