Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Wendy ji, <<< Just as Kundalika got her feathers ruffled by mention of GU/KE conjunction and many people likewise get upset over mention of GU/RA conjunction (Guru - Chandala Yoga), so people are naturally disturbed by the mention of planetary positions indicating state after death. >>> Many people fail to realize that Guru must be weak for the Guru Chandala Yoga to actually cause evil! One woman I know has GCY, but Guru is strong, so she is very advanced spiritually. Of course, Rahu's materialistic approach is also very evident in her life! But, she has not sacrificed spirituality for materialism. Sometimes, we know only little, and this causes fear. I was once terrified that I had Ichita Mrityu Yoga - caused by Rahu in the 7th and Kuja in a Kendra. Only later did I realize that this neutralized my Kuja Dosha to a good extent, since Kuja is conjunct Rahu within 7 degrees! Also, do Ketu and Guru together create GCY? I doubt it, both are spiritual! ~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ~~~~~~~ ______________________ Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Dear Balaji, "Feathers ruffled" is a funny term No, I wasn't irked, its just that I don't like it when people blindly quote verses. What is true in one horoscope is not necessarily true in others. Jupiter-Ketu is a spiritual yoga. You cannot put Rahu on the same pedestal as Ketu, they have widely different charasteristics. Rgds. K. On Apr 7, 2005 5:33 PM, Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: > > Wendy ji, > > <<< Just as Kundalika got her feathers ruffled by mention of > GU/KE conjunction and many people likewise get upset over > mention of GU/RA conjunction (Guru - Chandala Yoga), so people > are naturally disturbed by the mention of planetary positions > indicating state after death. >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Respected Gurujis, I am late follower of this thread and my two cents...correct me if i am wrong... 1.Guru Chandala yoga is created only when rahu is associated with guru and not with ketu... 2. Again Guru Rahu combination does not mean, the person is not spiritually oriented but his belief system may change from one path to another path till he attains his karmic path..This is purely out of my life..i do have guru (atmakaraka) sitting with rahu in 4 house and my worship pattern has changed. I am born as vaishnavite but become following Sivasakthi swaroopini srilalitha as i feel it is better for me as per my chart as i have week moon sitting in 11th and i believe this again due to atmakaraka as he always directs one's soul... 3. I have not seen any link with mother as it is and i am very much attached to her though people say because of this guru chandala, many astrologers told me that i dont have good cordial relations with mother... this is again i feel not correct if one considers the rahu and ketu as karmic planets giving results of previous karma. In fact i am too much attached with my mother as rahu is sitting in venus house rishabha so far behaved like sukra only in real life. Hence attaching with father and mother may be true to some extent but not fully and one has to see entire chart to arrive at real cause... 4. I consider the combination of G and K as very good for spiritual progress but again as i said earlier it depends on one's karma.. 4. The bad effect so far i have seen with GCY is the native has troubles with his own guru in any field he is into....say i had problems with my principal in the CA firm when i was doing CA as the system of CA education really considers them as gurus. I remember learned member ravindramani words also in the old group message thread on this same topic... 5. last i remember learned members discussed this GCY in our group earlier also..but really sorry i could remember the message nos... P.S. Madonna chart can reveal so many things abt this GCY waiting to hear from wendiji, balaji and other members. thanks sriganeshh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Dear Sriganeshh >>Again Guru Rahu combination does not mean, the person is not spiritually oriented but his belief system may change from one path to another path till he attains his karmic path..<< This is a very good observation. Rahu, as we know, is a significator for change. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Dear friends, I dont think Gurujis are available in this Group. So far as the Jupiter and Ketu combination, why dont members cast this cahrt and see what extent this individual was spiritual as Jupiter and Ketu both are conjunct in this chart. Male November 14, 1989 11:03 pm 25n27, 81e51, India No day light time 5:30 Zone. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Dear friends, A small correction in the birth data. There was typo. The year of birth was 1889 not 1989. Repeat not 1989. Male November 14, 1889 11:03 pm 25n27, 81e51, India No day light time 5:30 Zone. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > Male > November 14, 1989 > 11:03 pm > 25n27, 81e51, India > No day light time > 5:30 Zone. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Dear Sriganeshh and All, To expand a little more on your post: >>i do have guru (atmakaraka) sitting with rahu in 4 house and my worship pattern has changed. I am born as vaishnavite but become following Sivasakthi swaroopini srilalitha<< It was during JU/RA dasa that I received initiation (TM meditation) and was drawn totally to Hinduism. Now, after much wavering these last few years, ME/RA dasa has brought me back (confidently) to where I began...richer by far, I believe, for the religious insights gained over the last 25-30 yrs :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com _________________________ Dear Sriganeshh >>Again Guru Rahu combination does not mean, the person is not spiritually oriented but his belief system may change from one path to another path till he attains his karmic path..<< This is a very good observation. Rahu, as we know, is a significator for change. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Friends, What are the significations of the planets in question? As I was taught: Jupiter: Religious beliefs and religion, natural and social duties approved of the society, astrology including astronomy, Vedanta, dharma, doing good to others Mantra, dvijas, intellect, sattivic nature, tantra , sound knowledge of the sacred texts and scriptures, performing religious and moral acts, teacher, fame, charity, holy water or place of pilgrimage, moving towards heaven, worship of lord Shiva, gentleness. Rahu: Falsehood, perplexity, wickedness, a person belongs to a caste outside the four main castes, faulty logic, harsh speech. A sinful woman, An irreligious person or a shudra, gambling, having sex with a wicked woman, going to a different country, serpents, world of snakes. Ketu: Instability of mind, suffering from foes, vultures, stupidity, conversation or association with shudras, gambling etc. One should not forget that Rahu and Ketu are spiritual planets too. In the periods of Rahu , a person tends to perform pilgrimages also. In modern education and the area of profession, both Rahu and Ketu represent technical education and allied professions. Both planets have good and as well as bad significations. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Dear Wendy ji, I dont know exact date but manually calculating the dasa periods,it is interesting to learn that i also received TM initiation (1988) in my Venus/Rahu dasa. (Venus is in 12th house). Devi worship started in Moon/Saturn (2002) but though i have not left it, but nowadays going back to where i started surprisingly after 17 years.. thanks and regards sriganeshh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Dear Ravindramani and All, >>>Rahu: Falsehood, perplexity, wickedness, a person belongs to a caste outside the four main castes, faulty logic, harsh speech. A sinful woman, An irreligious person or a shudra, gambling, having sex with a wicked woman, going to a different country, serpents, world of snakes. Ketu: Instability of mind, suffering from foes, vultures, stupidity, conversation or association with shudras, gambling etc.<<< We musn't lose sight of the fact that the Nodes are influenced (for better or worse) by their associations. As we know the conjunction with a benefic such as Jupiter modifies their nature accordingly...providing of course, as Balaji has said, that Jupiter has strength and is otherwise unafflicted. Nakshatra lord and dispositor also have a great say. In my opinion it's impossible to judge the intentions of the nodes without judging those he's associated with. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Dear Mrs Wendy, Jupiter do get afflicted because of the conjunction (being with Rahu.) Here, it is not only that Rahu has been benefitted but in the process Jupiter himslef get afflicted. In the case of JUP & Ketu, further affliction leads to problems. My simple point in this thread is this only. Jupiter conjunct Rahu or Ketu if it is afflicted by another malefic, this Jupiter is not going to behave fully benefic as is his original nature. Regards, Ravindramani. PS: I do have this combination. I have already experienced this Dasha. My Jupiter has not been afflicted further by any other malefic. I was saved to some extent. Still I undergone the so called results attributed to this Guru Chandala Yoga. ============ jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@j...> wrote: > Dear Ravindramani and All, > > >>>Rahu: > Falsehood, perplexity, wickedness, a person belongs to a caste > outside the four main castes, faulty logic, harsh speech. A sinful > woman, An irreligious person or a shudra, gambling, having sex with > a > wicked woman, going to a different country, serpents, world of > snakes. > > Ketu: > Instability of mind, suffering from foes, vultures, stupidity, > conversation or association with shudras, gambling etc.<<< > > We musn't lose sight of the fact that the Nodes are influenced (for > better or worse) by their associations. As we know the conjunction > with a benefic such as Jupiter modifies their nature > accordingly...providing of course, as Balaji has said, that Jupiter > has strength and is otherwise unafflicted. Nakshatra lord and > dispositor also have a great say. In my opinion it's impossible to > judge the intentions of the nodes without judging those he's > associated with. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Dear Ravindramani, >>>PS: I do have this combination. I have already experienced this Dasha. My Jupiter has not been afflicted further by any other malefic. I was saved to some extent. Still I undergone the so called results attributed to this Guru Chandala Yoga.<<< Particularly so, I would imagine, if Jupiter and Rahu both occupy nakshatra of Rahu himself. However your own experience, unique to you alone, may not necessarily be the benchmark for everyone... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com _____________________ Dear Mrs Wendy, Jupiter do get afflicted because of the conjunction (being with Rahu.) Here, it is not only that Rahu has been benefitted but in the process Jupiter himslef get afflicted. In the case of JUP & Ketu, further affliction leads to problems. My simple point in this thread is this only. Jupiter conjunct Rahu or Ketu if it is afflicted by another malefic, this Jupiter is not going to behave fully benefic as is his original nature. Regards, Ravindramani. ============ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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