Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Jupiter Lord of fourth house/Sagittarius Jupiter 7th house Pisces/Ju Jupiter opp Saturn and Neptune in Virgo/Mer (1st hse) Jupiter trine Sun and PL in Cancer/Mo (11th hse) Jupiter sextiles Virgo/Mer(1st hse)from Cancer/Mo Jupiter sextiles Scorpio/Ma(3rd hse)from Virgo/Mer Fourth house of mother and security - nurturing - its significane played out in this chart Fourth house significance in 7th house with Jupiter placed there Fourth house significance in 11th hse of others Fourth house significance in 1st hse of self Their relatioships and positions and how they influence each other would appreciate comments Uttara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 I forgot in the late wee hours of the morning to include birthdata: July 28, 1951; 9:14am (Standard Time) Chicago, Illinois U.S.A. Lat: 41 N 51 Long: 87 W 39 Time Zone 6 Lahiri ayanamsa. Jupiter as Benefic acting as Malefic. Jupiter in 7th house expansive - exhuberant - giving away personal power - illusions in projection? Jupiter conflict with 4th, 10th lst hse?? Clarification and discussion appreciated. Uttara jyotish-vidya, "muttaraphalguni" <muttaraphalguni> wrote: Jupiter Lord of fourth house/Sagittarius Jupiter 7th house Pisces/Ju Jupiter opp Saturn and Neptune in Virgo/Mer (1st hse) Jupiter trine Sun and PL in Cancer/Mo (11th hse) Jupiter sextiles Virgo/Mer(1st hse)from Cancer/Mo Jupiter sextiles Scorpio/Ma(3rd hse)from Virgo/Mer Fourth house of mother and security - nurturing - its significane played out in this chart Fourth house significance in 7th house with Jupiter placed there Fourth house significance in 11th hse of others Fourth house significance in 1st hse of self Their relatioships and positions and how they influence each other would appreciate comments Uttara --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Dear Uttara, I've drawn the chart for 9.14 am and (with DST) the lagna is Leo with 5th lord Jupiter in own sign in 8th - can you confirm. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___________________ I forgot in the late wee hours of the morning to include birthdata: July 28, 1951; 9:14am (Standard Time) Chicago, Illinois U.S.A. Lat: 41 N 51 Long: 87 W 39 Time Zone 6 Lahiri ayanamsa. Jupiter as Benefic acting as Malefic. Jupiter in 7th house expansive - exhuberant - giving away personal power - illusions in projection? Jupiter conflict with 4th, 10th lst hse?? Clarification and discussion appreciated. Uttara jyotish-vidya, "muttaraphalguni" <muttaraphalguni> wrote: Jupiter Lord of fourth house/Sagittarius Jupiter 7th house Pisces/Ju Jupiter opp Saturn and Neptune in Virgo/Mer (1st hse) Jupiter trine Sun and PL in Cancer/Mo (11th hse) Jupiter sextiles Virgo/Mer(1st hse)from Cancer/Mo Jupiter sextiles Scorpio/Ma(3rd hse)from Virgo/Mer Fourth house of mother and security - nurturing - its significane played out in this chart Fourth house significance in 7th house with Jupiter placed there Fourth house significance in 11th hse of others Fourth house significance in 1st hse of self Their relatioships and positions and how they influence each other would appreciate comments Uttara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Hi Wendy, Birthdata: 9:14am (standard time - do not substract 1 hour) Lagna lahiri Virgo 3* OR: use 10:14am with daylight savings Time of 1 hour Lagna Lahiri Virgo 3* Birth certificate says 9:14am Central Standard Time. In others words in Chicago at the time all legal records of Time were converted to Standard time. Daylight Savings Time was in effect (that is why my mother swears she gave birth to me a little after 10am) but the certificate is recorded in Central Standard Time. Always a problem with birth cerfificates and setting up accurate birthcharts in the Country as a whole bwtwen 1946 and 1967. Each State and County had there own preference as to how to record time and use it too! Thanks! Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote: Dear Uttara, I've drawn the chart for 9.14 am and (with DST) the lagna is Leo with 5th lord Jupiter in own sign in 8th - can you confirm. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___________________ I forgot in the late wee hours of the morning to include birthdata: July 28, 1951; 9:14am (Standard Time) Chicago, Illinois U.S.A. Lat: 41 N 51 Long: 87 W 39 Time Zone 6 Lahiri ayanamsa. Jupiter as Benefic acting as Malefic. Jupiter in 7th house expansive - exhuberant - giving away personal power - illusions in projection? Jupiter conflict with 4th, 10th lst hse?? Clarification and discussion appreciated. Uttara jyotish-vidya, "muttaraphalguni" <muttaraphalguni> wrote: Jupiter Lord of fourth house/Sagittarius Jupiter 7th house Pisces/Ju Jupiter opp Saturn and Neptune in Virgo/Mer (1st hse) Jupiter trine Sun and PL in Cancer/Mo (11th hse) Jupiter sextiles Virgo/Mer(1st hse)from Cancer/Mo Jupiter sextiles Scorpio/Ma(3rd hse)from Virgo/Mer Fourth house of mother and security - nurturing - its significane played out in this chart Fourth house significance in 7th house with Jupiter placed there Fourth house significance in 11th hse of others Fourth house significance in 1st hse of self Their relatioships and positions and how they influence each other would appreciate comments Uttara Sponsor Children InternationalWould you give Hope to a Child in need? ·Click Here to meet a Girl And Give Her Hope·Click Here to meet a Boy And Change His Life Learn More jyotish-vidya/ jyotish-vidya Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us......As we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others. from A Return To Love: by Marianne Williamson Plan great trips with Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Dear Uttara, This is an interesting chart. Quick questions for you and separate from what you were asking regarding Jupiter really : What is the situation with eating and foods and your digestive system? Also anything noteworthy regarding cooking? Another question I have is your elder sibling? BTW, what really is 'Standard Time'? Software programs are giving the correct chart with the 10:14 time on this date as they are using DST of 1 hour. PL gives this time at +6:00 under CST, Central Standard Time, then the additional DST. So is Standard Time, always the local time used separately from DST? Thanks for sharing your chart and this discussion for learning, Patrice __________________ I forgot in the late wee hours of the morning to include birthdata: July 28, 1951; 9:14am (Standard Time) Chicago, Illinois U.S.A. Lat: 41 N 51 Long: 87 W 39 Time Zone 6 Lahiri ayanamsa. Jupiter as Benefic acting as Malefic. Jupiter in 7th house expansive - exhuberant - giving away personal power - illusions in projection? Jupiter conflict with 4th, 10th lst hse?? Clarification and discussion appreciated. Uttara jyotish-vidya, "muttaraphalguni" <muttaraphalguni> wrote: Jupiter Lord of fourth house/Sagittarius Jupiter 7th house Pisces/Ju Jupiter opp Saturn and Neptune in Virgo/Mer (1st hse) Jupiter trine Sun and PL in Cancer/Mo (11th hse) Jupiter sextiles Virgo/Mer(1st hse)from Cancer/Mo Jupiter sextiles Scorpio/Ma(3rd hse)from Virgo/Mer Fourth house of mother and security - nurturing - its significane played out in this chart Fourth house significance in 7th house with Jupiter placed there Fourth house significance in 11th hse of others Fourth house significance in 1st hse of self Their relatioships and positions and how they influence each other would appreciate comments Uttara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Hi Patrice, I love your name!! Re: eating, foods, digestives system. Answer: Pretty sensitive. Highly allergic to many foods and liquids, fruits, seasonings etc. Have never liked to eat as others. I enjoy well prepared - good quality food though. That to me is heaven. But, on a regular basis I have never craved food or nutrition. I hate any kind of left overs. Nor do I like pastries or chocolate. I do however, go on sugar binges. Meaning for some reason my body craves straight sugar. Hard candies, frosting etc. I get a lot of hives and it affects my liver big time. So does any number (and I mean just about every one of them) prescribed or over the counter medications/drugs. Re: Cooking. Answer: I was raised with 3 balanced meals a day 7 days a week. As a mother when my family was younger and still at home - and when my health was able to stand on my feet for hours at a time - I cooked 3 balanced meals a day for my family. However, I really don't enjoy cooking. To me it is laborious and not creative enough. Saying that though probably has to do with all the preparation, mess and clean up. A lot of hours worth of work to be consumed in short order. Too. Since I am so sensitive to food and medications I don't enjoy being involved with it. For my children it was important to me that I fed them well and kept them healthy with balanced meals. But, in my household there is and was never any soda, or snacks or frozen convenient foods and very little deserts. In fact, desert was a special treat just like cakes for birthdays. However, I did enjoy making cookies as a child. Today and for the past several years my husband does all the cooking and he serves me. He on the other hand when home is always in the kitchen cooking and coming up with creative dishes. I exasperate him to no end though how sensitive I am to foods and his culinary delights. Sometimes he takes it personally. I think I am missing some liver and digestive enzymes. I was just talking with one of my doctors yesterday and I think I am going to pursue looking into being specially tested after next months blood work comes back. Re: My elder sibling. A girl. Born full term. Perfectly healthy. She died 6 hours later from what is suspected today to being neo-natal persistent pulmonary hypertension. Meaning that her one lung couldn't fully inflate after birth. She was a Blue baby. I was born 11 months and one day later. Re: Standard Time. I am glad you asked. This is crucial to understand to get accurate birth charts. Where I was born - being Chicago - Standard Time is known as CST. Meaning Central Standard Time. When Daylight Time is in effect it is known as CDT meaning Central Daylight Time. Most Birth certificates before Universal Time was accepted in 1967 in the USA recorded their local time as they wished. Some took into consideration Daylight Time - others adjusted for it and recorded in Standard Time. There was no rule or law requiring Time recorded to state after it whether is was Standard Time or Daylight Time. That is why almost all birth certificates in the USA before 1967 do not say after the birth time what kind of Time it was. Today when one sees a birth certificate it will say if the birth time is Standard or Daylight Time. Another point to take into consideration is that time was not required to record in 24 hour. So, if a birth chart says 2:05 one has to determine if it is Standard Time or Daylight Time and then determine if it is 2:05am or pm. Too. Time Zones can be interpreted wrongly when calculating a chart. Generally speaking, I follow the premise that Standard Time is accurate in its Time Zone. So for my birth chart. Standard Time is 9:14am and in Time Zone +6.00. On the other hand, If Birth Time is recorded in Daylight Savings Time (ex: 10:14am on the wall for my birth time) then all one needs to do on a software computer program is subtract one hour. OR subtract one Time Zone (+5.00) for accuracy of Lagna and houses. It's one or the other. (subtract one hour or subtract one Time Zone. The Midwest of USA and especially Illinois between 1946 through 1967 was notorious for inconstancies of how time was recorded throughout the counties and States. Here are a few great sites that goes into all of this more clearly: http://webexhibits.org/daylightsavings/e.html “Early Adoption and U.S. Law” www.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/ www.davidsemporium.co.uk/_FIFTEEN.html there is a caps hyphen before FIFTEEN - it is hidden with the underline Hope the information helps, Patrice. Uttara p.s. looking forward to hearing from you! Patrice Curry <patricecurry wrote: Dear Uttara, This is an interesting chart. Quick questions for you and separate from what you were asking regarding Jupiter really : What is the situation with eating and foods and your digestive system? Also anything noteworthy regarding cooking? Another question I have is your elder sibling? BTW, what really is 'Standard Time'? Software programs are giving the correct chart with the 10:14 time on this date as they are using DST of 1 hour. PL gives this time at +6:00 under CST, Central Standard Time, then the additional DST. So is Standard Time, always the local time used separately from DST? Thanks for sharing your chart and this discussion for learning, Patrice __________________ I forgot in the late wee hours of the morning to include birthdata: July 28, 1951; 9:14am (Standard Time) Chicago, Illinois U.S.A. Lat: 41 N 51 Long: 87 W 39 Time Zone 6 Lahiri ayanamsa. Jupiter as Benefic acting as Malefic. Jupiter in 7th house expansive - exhuberant - giving away personal power - illusions in projection? Jupiter conflict with 4th, 10th lst hse?? Clarification and discussion appreciated. Uttara jyotish-vidya, "muttaraphalguni" wrote: Jupiter Lord of fourth house/Sagittarius Jupiter 7th house Pisces/Ju Jupiter opp Saturn and Neptune in Virgo/Mer (1st hse) Jupiter trine Sun and PL in Cancer/Mo (11th hse) Jupiter sextiles Virgo/Mer(1st hse)from Cancer/Mo Jupiter sextiles Scorpio/Ma(3rd hse)from Virgo/Mer Fourth house of mother and security - nurturing - its significane played out in this chart Fourth house significance in 7th house with Jupiter placed there Fourth house significance in 11th hse of others Fourth house significance in 1st hse of self Their relatioships and positions and how they influence each other would appreciate comments Uttara Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us......As we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others. from A Return To Love: by Marianne Williamson Mail Mobile Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Dear Uttara, Thank your for your enthusiastic and full response to my questions with such detail. Please forgive me for not answering until now. Also for your sweet words regarding my name. I have wanted to find the time to give you a full response to this and your chart, and am still without time to do so. I waited to respond thinking this time will come soon, and it is still too busy here, but I want to address you and explain my delay in writing without waiting even further for more time, and also thank you for all your thoughtful writing on this response. It's very interesting with all you've written with respect to your chart and I WILL get back to this and your chart as soon as I'm able to give it time. I also like your name!! Being unfamiliar with it, I looked it up to verify you were a female at the time of my earlier response and saw a connection to your name with cooking as well as what your chart showed. Again, Uttara, thank you soo much for your detailed response which is extremely helpful, and I will get back to you as soon as I'm able. Many thanks for offering a site as well as your clear explanation and thoughts regarding Standard Time. All best wishes, Patrice ___________ Hi Patrice, I love your name!! Re: eating, foods, digestives system. Answer: Pretty sensitive. Highly allergic to many foods and liquids, fruits, seasonings etc. Have never liked to eat as others. I enjoy well prepared - good quality food though. That to me is heaven. But, on a regular basis I have never craved food or nutrition. I hate any kind of left overs. Nor do I like pastries or chocolate. I do however, go on sugar binges. Meaning for some reason my body craves straight sugar. Hard candies, frosting etc. I get a lot of hives and it affects my liver big time. So does any number (and I mean just about every one of them) prescribed or over the counter medications/drugs. Re: Cooking. Answer: I was raised with 3 balanced meals a day 7 days a week. As a mother when my family was younger and still at home - and when my health was able to stand on my feet for hours at a time - I cooked 3 balanced meals a day for my family. However, I really don't enjoy cooking. To me it is laborious and not creative enough. Saying that though probably has to do with all the preparation, mess and clean up. A lot of hours worth of work to be consumed in short order. Too. Since I am so sensitive to food and medications I don't enjoy being involved with it. For my children it was important to me that I fed them well and kept them healthy with balanced meals. But, in my household there is and was never any soda, or snacks or frozen convenient foods and very little deserts. In fact, desert was a special treat just like cakes for birthdays. However, I did enjoy making cookies as a child. Today and for the past several years my husband does all the cooking and he serves me. He on the other hand when home is always in the kitchen cooking and coming up with creative dishes. I exasperate him to no end though how sensitive I am to foods and his culinary delights. Sometimes he takes it personally. I think I am missing some liver and digestive enzymes. I was just talking with one of my doctors yesterday and I think I am going to pursue looking into being specially tested after next months blood work comes back. Re: My elder sibling. A girl. Born full term. Perfectly healthy. She died 6 hours later from what is suspected today to being neo-natal persistent pulmonary hypertension. Meaning that her one lung couldn't fully inflate after birth. She was a Blue baby. I was born 11 months and one day later. Re: Standard Time. I am glad you asked. This is crucial to understand to get accurate birth charts. Where I was born - being Chicago - Standard Time is known as CST. Meaning Central Standard Time. When Daylight Time is in effect it is known as CDT meaning Central Daylight Time. Most Birth certificates before Universal Time was accepted in 1967 in the USA recorded their local time as they wished. Some took into consideration Daylight Time - others adjusted for it and recorded in Standard Time. There was no rule or law requiring Time recorded to state after it whether is was Standard Time or Daylight Time. That is why almost all birth certificates in the USA before 1967 do not say after the birth time what kind of Time it was. Today when one sees a birth certificate it will say if the birth time is Standard or Daylight Time. Another point to take into consideration is that time was not required to record in 24 hour. So, if a birth chart says 2:05 one has to determine if it is Standard Time or Daylight Time and then determine if it is 2:05am or pm. Too. Time Zones can be interpreted wrongly when calculating a chart. Generally speaking, I follow the premise that Standard Time is accurate in its Time Zone. So for my birth chart. Standard Time is 9:14am and in Time Zone +6.00. On the other hand, If Birth Time is recorded in Daylight Savings Time (ex: 10:14am on the wall for my birth time) then all one needs to do on a software computer program is subtract one hour. OR subtract one Time Zone (+5.00) for accuracy of Lagna and houses. It's one or the other. (subtract one hour or subtract one Time Zone. The Midwest of USA and especially Illinois between 1946 through 1967 was notorious for inconstancies of how time was recorded throughout the counties and States. Here are a few great sites that goes into all of this more clearly: http://webexhibits.org/daylightsavings/e.html “Early Adoption and U.S. Law” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Thank you Patrice for your note. Your welcome. I was glad I could be of some help. I look forward to hearing from you at your convenience! Uttara Patrice Curry <patricecurry wrote: Dear Uttara, Thank your for your enthusiastic and full response to my questions with such detail. Please forgive me for not answering until now. Also for your sweet words regarding my name. I have wanted to find the time to give you a full response to this and your chart, and am still without time to do so. I waited to respond thinking this time will come soon, and it is still too busy here, but I want to address you and explain my delay in writing without waiting even further for more time, and also thank you for all your thoughtful writing on this response. It's very interesting with all you've written with respect to your chart and I WILL get back to this and your chart as soon as I'm able to give it time. I also like your name!! Being unfamiliar with it, I looked it up to verify you were a female at the time of my earlier response and saw a connection to your name with cooking as well as what your chart showed. Again, Uttara, thank you soo much for your detailed response which is extremely helpful, and I will get back to you as soon as I'm able. Many thanks for offering a site as well as your clear explanation and thoughts regarding Standard Time. All best wishes, Patrice ___________ Hi Patrice, I love your name!! Re: eating, foods, digestives system. Answer: Pretty sensitive. Highly allergic to many foods and liquids, fruits, seasonings etc. Have never liked to eat as others. I enjoy well prepared - good quality food though. That to me is heaven. But, on a regular basis I have never craved food or nutrition. I hate any kind of left overs. Nor do I like pastries or chocolate. I do however, go on sugar binges. Meaning for some reason my body craves straight sugar. Hard candies, frosting etc. I get a lot of hives and it affects my liver big time. So does any number (and I mean just about every one of them) prescribed or over the counter medications/drugs. Re: Cooking. Answer: I was raised with 3 balanced meals a day 7 days a week. As a mother when my family was younger and still at home - and when my health was able to stand on my feet for hours at a time - I cooked 3 balanced meals a day for my family. However, I really don't enjoy cooking. To me it is laborious and not creative enough. Saying that though probably has to do with all the preparation, mess and clean up. A lot of hours worth of work to be consumed in short order. Too. Since I am so sensitive to food and medications I don't enjoy being involved with it. For my children it was important to me that I fed them well and kept them healthy with balanced meals. But, in my household there is and was never any soda, or snacks or frozen convenient foods and very little deserts. In fact, desert was a special treat just like cakes for birthdays. However, I did enjoy making cookies as a child. Today and for the past several years my husband does all the cooking and he serves me. He on the other hand when home is always in the kitchen cooking and coming up with creative dishes. I exasperate him to no end though how sensitive I am to foods and his culinary delights. Sometimes he takes it personally. I think I am missing some liver and digestive enzymes. I was just talking with one of my doctors yesterday and I think I am going to pursue looking into being specially tested after next months blood work comes back. Re: My elder sibling. A girl. Born full term. Perfectly healthy. She died 6 hours later from what is suspected today to being neo-natal persistent pulmonary hypertension. Meaning that her one lung couldn't fully inflate after birth. She was a Blue baby. I was born 11 months and one day later. Re: Standard Time. I am glad you asked. This is crucial to understand to get accurate birth charts. Where I was born - being Chicago - Standard Time is known as CST. Meaning Central Standard Time. When Daylight Time is in effect it is known as CDT meaning Central Daylight Time. Most Birth certificates before Universal Time was accepted in 1967 in the USA recorded their local time as they wished. Some took into consideration Daylight Time - others adjusted for it and recorded in Standard Time. There was no rule or law requiring Time recorded to state after it whether is was Standard Time or Daylight Time. That is why almost all birth certificates in the USA before 1967 do not say after the birth time what kind of Time it was. Today when one sees a birth certificate it will say if the birth time is Standard or Daylight Time. Another point to take into consideration is that time was not required to record in 24 hour. So, if a birth chart says 2:05 one has to determine if it is Standard Time or Daylight Time and then determine if it is 2:05am or pm. Too. Time Zones can be interpreted wrongly when calculating a chart. Generally speaking, I follow the premise that Standard Time is accurate in its Time Zone. So for my birth chart. Standard Time is 9:14am and in Time Zone +6.00. On the other hand, If Birth Time is recorded in Daylight Savings Time (ex: 10:14am on the wall for my birth time) then all one needs to do on a software computer program is subtract one hour. OR subtract one Time Zone (+5.00) for accuracy of Lagna and houses. It's one or the other. (subtract one hour or subtract one Time Zone. The Midwest of USA and especially Illinois between 1946 through 1967 was notorious for inconstancies of how time was recorded throughout the counties and States. Here are a few great sites that goes into all of this more clearly: http://webexhibits.org/daylightsavings/e.html “Early Adoption and U.S. Law” Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us......As we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others. from A Return To Love: by Marianne Williamson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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