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Dear Wendy and All,

 

For all the esteemed astrologers here, I would like to put forth a

dilemma that I am having with calculating a Lahiri Ayanamsa. It is

quite detailed to the best of my acknowledge. Sorry for being so

dry – but it is really important to me – to get it all sorted out.

 

First let me say - I have my computer programs set at True Node;

Lahiri ayanamsha. 365 days.

 

I have three Vedic computer programs and both an American sidereal

Ephemeris and a Lahiri Sidereal Ephemeris book that conflict each

other in Dasha timing because of Ayanmasha calculation.

 

The lahiri Sidereal Ephemeris book uses planetary calculations from

Jean Meeus Astronomical Algorithms. It uses Julian Day and Universal

Time vs. Ephemeris Time. So timing varies with earth rotation etc

vs. constant rate. It uses apparent Longitude and Latitude as seen

from the earth and not its actual position of movement. It also uses

the yr 200AD to calculate when the Spring equinox was Pisces.

Current: 4/01/2005 Lahiri ayanamsha: 23* 55.5' - Delta T 71

seconds, Julian date: 1885.5 - Sidereal Tiime: 12 37 48'

 

I would say that this lines up more with American sidereal

Calculations but no that ephemeris book I have is different too. All

of their computations are taken from the ACS atlas. It uses Julian

Day and Universal Time for the Sidereal Time. However, all its

planetary positions and aspects along with moon phenomena are given

for Midnight Ephemeris Time. Moon on the other hand is given

Ephemeris time at Noon. Both True Node and mean Nodes are given.

Current: 4/01/2005 Obliquity ayanamsha: 23* 26.28' - Julian Date:

2453461.5 - Sidereal Time: 12 37 48'

 

Lahiri Ayanamsha in computer programs: Current 4/1/2005

Birthtime: 00:00:00 - Chicago, Illinois - Zone 6 Standard Time

41 N 51 - 87 W 39. True Node - 365 days.

 

Software (A.) Lahiri 23* 55: 41 - Tithi Saptami of Waning Moon -

Midheaven 19* 10' 29'' Virgo -

Vimshotarri Dasha:

Moon 365 days

KE JU ME ME 3/29/2005

Moon 360 days

KE JU ME ME 3/30/2005

 

****special note: A critical error happens if one just changes from

calculated 365 Moon to 360 day tab without going first to log it as

Moon calculation too. If not done then program will read

Moon 360 days

Ma Sa Ve Sa 3/28/2005

tab 365 days from here

Ma Sa Ve Sa 3/29/2005

 

Software (A.) at 20 years 4/01/2025

Moon 365 days

Ve Me Mo Ra 3/20/2025

Moon 360 days

Ke Ju Me Me 3/30/2025

 

ACS Atlas used in program - backed up by JPL

 

___

 

Software (B.) Lahiri 23* 55: 42

Vimshottari Dasa:

KE RA

 

4/01/2025

Lahiri 24* 12: 36

VE

 

________________________________

 

Software (C.) Lahiri 23* 55: 42: 17

Sidereal Time: 12: 48: 12

*Gregorian Day

360 day Solar year

 

Vimshottari Dasa

360 Moon

Ke Ra Mo Ve

 

4/01/2025

Vimsottari Dasa

360 Moon

Su Su Ju Sa

 

*Julian Day Lahiri: 23* 55: 42: 17

Sidereal Time: 13:39: 27

360 day solar year

 

Vimsottari Dasa

360 Moon

Ma Ve Me Me

 

4/01/2005

Vimsottari Dasa

360 Moon

Ra Me Ra Sa

 

_____________________________

 

As one can read every one of these calculations contradict each

other. YIKES!

 

My personal feeling is that Software (C.) with Gregorian Day is the

most accurate. I say this because when I use my own birthchart with

these calculations the Dasha resonate the closes to my personal

experiences with this software's calculation. In fact most of my

personal events can match dead on to how the Vimsottari Dasha play

out as well as the Narayan Dasha system.

 

However, saying that does not mean I have it all correct.

 

And that is why if any others here with experience with different

Calculations can put in there wise counsel and give advice on how one

is to determine the best planetary system to work with charts and

Dasha systems.

 

It is quite mind boggling to say the least.

 

Uttara

 

p.s. can anyone tell me if the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)

Algorithms for planetary positions by Dr. Myles Standish is

available?

 

And – what does everyone else use for their chart calculations?

 

p.s.s please feel free to pass this email on to those you think have

the mathematical knowledge and where withal if you are stumped. Any

replies will be appreciated. Thanks

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Dear Uttara,

 

Unfortunately I haven't done any manual calculations for several

years now (relying solely on my computer software - Goravani Jyotish

and Parashara's light). Both these programmes are close enough in

their dasa calculations to satisfy my needs. Certainly dasas can

often be "out" due to several reasons, including incorrect T.O.B.,

however careful observation of events can usually rectify any

discrepancy.

 

It's perhaps not such a bad thing that such discrepancy's exist as

it makes us more reliant on our own ability to discern and rectify a

chart. Events will only manifest during appropriate planetary

conditions...far better to put the effort into verifying such

influences than to rely solely on computerised data which, as we

know, varies depending on it's source.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

____________________

Dear Wendy and All,

 

For all the esteemed astrologers here, I would like to put forth a

dilemma that I am having with calculating a Lahiri Ayanamsa. It is

quite detailed to the best of my acknowledge. Sorry for being so

dry - but it is really important to me - to get it all sorted out.

 

First let me say - I have my computer programs set at True Node;

Lahiri ayanamsha. 365 days.

 

I have three Vedic computer programs and both an American sidereal

Ephemeris and a Lahiri Sidereal Ephemeris book that conflict each

other in Dasha timing because of Ayanmasha calculation.

 

The lahiri Sidereal Ephemeris book uses planetary calculations from

Jean Meeus Astronomical Algorithms. It uses Julian Day and

Universal

Time vs. Ephemeris Time. So timing varies with earth rotation etc

vs. constant rate. It uses apparent Longitude and Latitude as seen

from the earth and not its actual position of movement. It also

uses

the yr 200AD to calculate when the Spring equinox was Pisces.

Current: 4/01/2005 Lahiri ayanamsha: 23* 55.5' - Delta T 71

seconds, Julian date: 1885.5 - Sidereal Tiime: 12 37 48'

 

I would say that this lines up more with American sidereal

Calculations but no that ephemeris book I have is different too. All

of their computations are taken from the ACS atlas. It uses Julian

Day and Universal Time for the Sidereal Time. However, all its

planetary positions and aspects along with moon phenomena are given

for Midnight Ephemeris Time. Moon on the other hand is given

Ephemeris time at Noon. Both True Node and mean Nodes are given.

Current: 4/01/2005 Obliquity ayanamsha: 23* 26.28' - Julian Date:

2453461.5 - Sidereal Time: 12 37 48'

 

Lahiri Ayanamsha in computer programs: Current 4/1/2005

Birthtime: 00:00:00 - Chicago, Illinois - Zone 6 Standard Time

41 N 51 - 87 W 39. True Node - 365 days.

 

Software (A.) Lahiri 23* 55: 41 - Tithi Saptami of Waning Moon -

Midheaven 19* 10' 29'' Virgo -

Vimshotarri Dasha:

Moon 365 days

KE JU ME ME 3/29/2005

Moon 360 days

KE JU ME ME 3/30/2005

 

****special note: A critical error happens if one just changes from

calculated 365 Moon to 360 day tab without going first to log it as

Moon calculation too. If not done then program will read

Moon 360 days

Ma Sa Ve Sa 3/28/2005

tab 365 days from here

Ma Sa Ve Sa 3/29/2005

 

Software (A.) at 20 years 4/01/2025

Moon 365 days

Ve Me Mo Ra 3/20/2025

Moon 360 days

Ke Ju Me Me 3/30/2025

 

ACS Atlas used in program - backed up by JPL

 

___

 

Software (B.) Lahiri 23* 55: 42

Vimshottari Dasa:

KE RA

 

4/01/2025

Lahiri 24* 12: 36

VE

 

________________________________

 

Software (C.) Lahiri 23* 55: 42: 17

Sidereal Time: 12: 48: 12

*Gregorian Day

360 day Solar year

 

Vimshottari Dasa

360 Moon

Ke Ra Mo Ve

 

4/01/2025

Vimsottari Dasa

360 Moon

Su Su Ju Sa

 

*Julian Day Lahiri: 23* 55: 42: 17

Sidereal Time: 13:39: 27

360 day solar year

 

Vimsottari Dasa

360 Moon

Ma Ve Me Me

 

4/01/2005

Vimsottari Dasa

360 Moon

Ra Me Ra Sa

 

_____________________________

 

As one can read every one of these calculations contradict each

other. YIKES!

 

My personal feeling is that Software (C.) with Gregorian Day is the

most accurate. I say this because when I use my own birthchart with

these calculations the Dasha resonate the closes to my personal

experiences with this software's calculation. In fact most of my

personal events can match dead on to how the Vimsottari Dasha play

out as well as the Narayan Dasha system.

 

However, saying that does not mean I have it all correct.

 

And that is why if any others here with experience with different

Calculations can put in there wise counsel and give advice on how

one

is to determine the best planetary system to work with charts and

Dasha systems.

 

It is quite mind boggling to say the least.

 

Uttara

 

p.s. can anyone tell me if the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)

Algorithms for planetary positions by Dr. Myles Standish is

available?

 

And - what does everyone else use for their chart calculations?

 

p.s.s please feel free to pass this email on to those you think

have

the mathematical knowledge and where withal if you are stumped. Any

replies will be appreciated. Thanks

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Dear Miss Wendy,

I shall be much obliged if u let me have the contact i.e. where to buy

Parashara's light programme

Thanks for all your help in past and future .

As per your advise I carry on with anusthan at the moment and today is

Ramnavami.

awaiting yr reply. regards pdk.

 

Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote:

Dear Uttara,

 

Unfortunately I haven't done any manual calculations for several

years now (relying solely on my computer software - Goravani Jyotish

and Parashara's light). Both these programmes are close enough in

their dasa calculations to satisfy my needs. Certainly dasas can

often be "out" due to several reasons, including incorrect T.O.B.,

however careful observation of events can usually rectify any

discrepancy.

 

It's perhaps not such a bad thing that such discrepancy's exist as

it makes us more reliant on our own ability to discern and rectify a

chart. Events will only manifest during appropriate planetary

conditions...far better to put the effort into verifying such

influences than to rely solely on computerised data which, as we

know, varies depending on it's source.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

____________________

Dear Wendy and All,

 

For all the esteemed astrologers here, I would like to put forth a

dilemma that I am having with calculating a Lahiri Ayanamsa. It is

quite detailed to the best of my acknowledge. Sorry for being so

dry - but it is really important to me - to get it all sorted out.

 

First let me say - I have my computer programs set at True Node;

Lahiri ayanamsha. 365 days.

 

I have three Vedic computer programs and both an American sidereal

Ephemeris and a Lahiri Sidereal Ephemeris book that conflict each

other in Dasha timing because of Ayanmasha calculation.

 

The lahiri Sidereal Ephemeris book uses planetary calculations from

Jean Meeus Astronomical Algorithms. It uses Julian Day and

Universal

Time vs. Ephemeris Time. So timing varies with earth rotation etc

vs. constant rate. It uses apparent Longitude and Latitude as seen

from the earth and not its actual position of movement. It also

uses

the yr 200AD to calculate when the Spring equinox was Pisces.

Current: 4/01/2005 Lahiri ayanamsha: 23* 55.5' - Delta T 71

seconds, Julian date: 1885.5 - Sidereal Tiime: 12 37 48'

 

I would say that this lines up more with American sidereal

Calculations but no that ephemeris book I have is different too. All

of their computations are taken from the ACS atlas. It uses Julian

Day and Universal Time for the Sidereal Time. However, all its

planetary positions and aspects along with moon phenomena are given

for Midnight Ephemeris Time. Moon on the other hand is given

Ephemeris time at Noon. Both True Node and mean Nodes are given.

Current: 4/01/2005 Obliquity ayanamsha: 23* 26.28' - Julian Date:

2453461.5 - Sidereal Time: 12 37 48'

 

Lahiri Ayanamsha in computer programs: Current 4/1/2005

Birthtime: 00:00:00 - Chicago, Illinois - Zone 6 Standard Time

41 N 51 - 87 W 39. True Node - 365 days.

 

Software (A.) Lahiri 23* 55: 41 - Tithi Saptami of Waning Moon -

Midheaven 19* 10' 29'' Virgo -

Vimshotarri Dasha:

Moon 365 days

KE JU ME ME 3/29/2005

Moon 360 days

KE JU ME ME 3/30/2005

 

****special note: A critical error happens if one just changes from

calculated 365 Moon to 360 day tab without going first to log it as

Moon calculation too. If not done then program will read

Moon 360 days

Ma Sa Ve Sa 3/28/2005

tab 365 days from here

Ma Sa Ve Sa 3/29/2005

 

Software (A.) at 20 years 4/01/2025

Moon 365 days

Ve Me Mo Ra 3/20/2025

Moon 360 days

Ke Ju Me Me 3/30/2025

 

ACS Atlas used in program - backed up by JPL

 

___

 

Software (B.) Lahiri 23* 55: 42

Vimshottari Dasa:

KE RA

 

4/01/2025

Lahiri 24* 12: 36

VE

 

________________________________

 

Software (C.) Lahiri 23* 55: 42: 17

Sidereal Time: 12: 48: 12

*Gregorian Day

360 day Solar year

 

Vimshottari Dasa

360 Moon

Ke Ra Mo Ve

 

4/01/2025

Vimsottari Dasa

360 Moon

Su Su Ju Sa

 

*Julian Day Lahiri: 23* 55: 42: 17

Sidereal Time: 13:39: 27

360 day solar year

 

Vimsottari Dasa

360 Moon

Ma Ve Me Me

 

4/01/2005

Vimsottari Dasa

360 Moon

Ra Me Ra Sa

 

_____________________________

 

As one can read every one of these calculations contradict each

other. YIKES!

 

My personal feeling is that Software (C.) with Gregorian Day is the

most accurate. I say this because when I use my own birthchart with

these calculations the Dasha resonate the closes to my personal

experiences with this software's calculation. In fact most of my

personal events can match dead on to how the Vimsottari Dasha play

out as well as the Narayan Dasha system.

 

However, saying that does not mean I have it all correct.

 

And that is why if any others here with experience with different

Calculations can put in there wise counsel and give advice on how

one

is to determine the best planetary system to work with charts and

Dasha systems.

 

It is quite mind boggling to say the least.

 

Uttara

 

p.s. can anyone tell me if the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)

Algorithms for planetary positions by Dr. Myles Standish is

available?

 

And - what does everyone else use for their chart calculations?

 

p.s.s please feel free to pass this email on to those you think

have

the mathematical knowledge and where withal if you are stumped. Any

replies will be appreciated. Thanks

 

 

 

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Dear pdk,

 

Here is the link for Parashara's light: http://www.parashara.com

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:55 AM

Re: Lahiri Ayanamsa - Please advise

 

 

Dear Miss Wendy,

I shall be much obliged if u let me have the contact i.e. where to

buy Parashara's light programme

Thanks for all your help in past and future .

As per your advise I carry on with anusthan at the moment and today

is Ramnavami.

awaiting yr reply. regards pdk.

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