Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Dear Wendy, Thank you for your kind response. Shan did respond and my reply sent to him yesterday has not reached him. I forwarded a copy of my response to him today. You had some reservation about my thoughts. Would you kindly elaborate so that I may learn. Thank you. David Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote: Dear David, Very well put! I do hope Shan will respond to your thoughtful commentary on his chart. Unfortunately though this often doesn't happen. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________________ Dear Shan, Here's an analysis from a student of astrology. You state that you are undergoing Sade Sati and that you are also going through bad times. If we take your operating dasa at the moment it is Saturn in its final sub period which is Jupiter. It must be understood that with the commencement of Sade Sati more than 5 years ago and in the final stages of an operating dasa one may not expect life to be smooth sailing. However, in the coming Mercury dasa which is expected to commence from December 23, 2005 matters should improve although about 2 years of the tail end of Sade Sati has to be put up with. This period starting from may not be as severe as it was during the past 5 plus years. I hope this helps. David nick2002000 <nick2002000 wrote: Respected members, I am going through very bad times, some learned members please help me by analyzing my chart.I am under sade sati too. I am losing my confidence. I have been learning vedic astrology since 2 years. But i am confused in analyzing my chart. DOB: 18/06/1977 TOB: 22:00 PM POB:PARAVUR(KERALA). LONG: 76E44, LAT:8N46. Please assist...... Awaiting an earliest response.... SHAN. jyotish-vidya/ jyotish-vidya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Dear Shan, As you haven't specify which area of your life is particularly having problems, i have tried to give a broader view to your chart and looked for patterns. Citing my observations below- You have two very counteracting forces operating in your chart, one tends to draw you towards spiritualism and another towards materialistic indulgence. Let me explain them one after another. Saturn(probably the most occult planet)lagna lord aspecting lagna, 9th house and 10th lord; Jupiter being 12th lord and dispositor of Ketu aspecting 9th house; moon(represents mind)with Sun. These are all factors which promote spirituality. On the other hand, Lagna falls on an earthy sign which is also exaltation sign of Mars. Mars with 10th lord Venus is in 4th house (represents things which support our physical and emotional existance e.g. house, vehicles etc) aspects lagna lord. These are factors supporting materialistic pursuit. Hence, according to me, these two strong opposite forces will try to destabilise you often and disturb your mind. Two more additional important features are as below- 1. Kalasarpa Yoga >> those who support the existance of this Yoga, say that this tend to limit human potential. 2. Look at your 7th, 6th and 5th houses. All their lords are posited in the 12th houses from their respective houses. Frankly speaking, i can't interpret the long term effect of this pattern; leaving it for other learned members to comment. Thanks & best regards, Sumit jyotish-vidya, "nick2002000" <nick2002000> wrote: > Respected members, > > I am going through very bad times, some learned members please help me > by analyzing my chart.I am under sade sati too. I am losing my > confidence. I have been learning vedic astrology since 2 years. But i > am confused in analyzing my chart. > > DOB: 18/06/1977 > TOB: 22:00 PM > POB:PARAVUR(KERALA). LONG: 76E44, LAT:8N46. > > Please assist...... > Awaiting an earliest response.... > > SHAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Dear David, Either some mails are not reaching my mailbox at all or is slow forwarding them on...either way I seem to have missed Shan's earlier response. In any case, might I draw your attention to Rahu's dispositor (9th lord Mercury), conjunct 12th lord Jupiter in 5th house of mind, whilst both are combust 8th lord Sun. Bearing in mind that 8th & 12th are moksha houses and 9th is the house of religion/higher knowledge (Vedic knowledge) etc.. I'd be interested to see your (and others) interpretation of this :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com __ Dear Wendy, Thank you for your kind response. Shan did respond and my reply sent to him yesterday has not reached him. I forwarded a copy of my response to him today. You had some reservation about my thoughts. Would you kindly elaborate so that I may learn. Thank you. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Thank you sumit, You have provided a few valuable info, which i couldn't observe.If you find time, could you please analyze my Navamsha chart too ? And, you haven't specified which of the counteracting force is going to have influence greater influence on me. I am not taking too much of your valuable time. Thanks & Regards shan jyotish-vidya, "sumit_dasgupta" <sumit_dasgupta> wrote: > Dear Shan, > > As you haven't specify which area of your life is particularly having > problems, i have tried to give a broader view to your chart and looked > for patterns. Citing my observations below- > > You have two very counteracting forces operating in your chart, one > tends to draw you towards spiritualism and another towards > materialistic indulgence. Let me explain them one after another. > > Saturn(probably the most occult planet)lagna lord aspecting lagna, 9th > house and 10th lord; Jupiter being 12th lord and dispositor of Ketu > aspecting 9th house; moon(represents mind)with Sun. These are all > factors which promote spirituality. > > On the other hand, Lagna falls on an earthy sign which is also > exaltation sign of Mars. Mars with 10th lord Venus is in 4th house > (represents things which support our physical and emotional existance > e.g. house, vehicles etc) aspects lagna lord. These are factors > supporting materialistic pursuit. > > Hence, according to me, these two strong opposite forces will try to > destabilise you often and disturb your mind. > > Two more additional important features are as below- > > 1. Kalasarpa Yoga >> those who support the existance of this Yoga, say > that this tend to limit human potential. > 2. Look at your 7th, 6th and 5th houses. All their lords are posited in > the 12th houses from their respective houses. Frankly speaking, i can't > interpret the long term effect of this pattern; leaving it for other > learned members to comment. > > Thanks & best regards, > Sumit > > > > > jyotish-vidya, "nick2002000" <nick2002000> > wrote: > > Respected members, > > > > I am going through very bad times, some learned members please help > me > > by analyzing my chart.I am under sade sati too. I am losing my > > confidence. I have been learning vedic astrology since 2 years. But i > > am confused in analyzing my chart. > > > > DOB: 18/06/1977 > > TOB: 22:00 PM > > POB:PARAVUR(KERALA). LONG: 76E44, LAT:8N46. > > > > Please assist...... > > Awaiting an earliest response.... > > > > SHAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Dear Shan, With the information that you have provided, I am afraid t I will not be able to add much to the comments made by David, Wendy and Sumit. At the time your wrote your mail, it is quite obvious that you were feeling very low. It will be useful if we knew how long things have been that way and what exactly is the area of life which is causing the problem. Assuming that your problem is about 3-4 months old, I would say that things should improve considerably by mid-June. Mid Jan saturn reentered Gemini in its retrogade motion. There it is in the 6th from your ascendant and 12th from the natal position of Dasa lord saturn. Mid June it will enter cancer. It will then be conjunct Dasa Lord and in a Kendra from the Ascendant.The Bhukti lord Jupiter is already in the 9th from Ascendant and the 5th from its natal position in taurus. So things should definitely look up by mid-June. All the best and regards, venkat jyotish-vidya, "nick2002000" <nick2002000> wrote: > Thank you sumit, > > You have provided a few valuable info, which i couldn't observe.If > you find time, could you please analyze my Navamsha chart too ? > And, you haven't specified which of the counteracting force is going > to have influence greater influence on me. > > I am not taking too much of your valuable time. > > Thanks & Regards > shan > > > > jyotish-vidya, "sumit_dasgupta" > <sumit_dasgupta> wrote: > > Dear Shan, > > > > As you haven't specify which area of your life is particularly > having > > problems, i have tried to give a broader view to your chart and > looked > > for patterns. Citing my observations below- > > > > You have two very counteracting forces operating in your chart, > one > > tends to draw you towards spiritualism and another towards > > materialistic indulgence. Let me explain them one after another. > > > > Saturn(probably the most occult planet)lagna lord aspecting lagna, > 9th > > house and 10th lord; Jupiter being 12th lord and dispositor of > Ketu > > aspecting 9th house; moon(represents mind)with Sun. These are all > > factors which promote spirituality. > > > > On the other hand, Lagna falls on an earthy sign which is also > > exaltation sign of Mars. Mars with 10th lord Venus is in 4th house > > (represents things which support our physical and emotional > existance > > e.g. house, vehicles etc) aspects lagna lord. These are factors > > supporting materialistic pursuit. > > > > Hence, according to me, these two strong opposite forces will try > to > > destabilise you often and disturb your mind. > > > > Two more additional important features are as below- > > > > 1. Kalasarpa Yoga >> those who support the existance of this Yoga, > say > > that this tend to limit human potential. > > 2. Look at your 7th, 6th and 5th houses. All their lords are > posited in > > the 12th houses from their respective houses. Frankly speaking, i > can't > > interpret the long term effect of this pattern; leaving it for > other > > learned members to comment. > > > > Thanks & best regards, > > Sumit > > > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, "nick2002000" > <nick2002000> > > wrote: > > > Respected members, > > > > > > I am going through very bad times, some learned members please > help > > me > > > by analyzing my chart.I am under sade sati too. I am losing my > > > confidence. I have been learning vedic astrology since 2 years. > But i > > > am confused in analyzing my chart. > > > > > > DOB: 18/06/1977 > > > TOB: 22:00 PM > > > POB:PARAVUR(KERALA). LONG: 76E44, LAT:8N46. > > > > > > Please assist...... > > > Awaiting an earliest response.... > > > > > > SHAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Dear David and All, Just trying to point out that the upcoming Mercury dasa has to be judged according to his overall condition...not just lordship. The combustion is an important consideration and just who is combusting who is equally important. Mercury is greatly influenced by the planet(s) he's associated with and, as we see, he's strongly associated with two moksha lords - conjunct 12th (moksha) lord Jupiter and both he and Jupiter are combust 8th (moksha) lord Sun who BTW occupies Mercury's own sign (Gemini). Jupiter is the significator of religion/knowledge etc and Mercury is lord of 9th house of religion and higher knowledge...being the planet of the intellect (the planet of learning) in the 5th house of mind/intelligence, we might perhaps assume that Mercury dasa will draw the native to a deeper study of matters related to higher knowledge/moksha and so forth...with the passion of Rahu who occupies his home? Of course even the best dasa has it's ups and downs and this is particularly so for a combust planet. Combusted by 8th lord suggests some changes/upheavals during this period. Others may like to comment further... and (please) feel free to correct if I've misjudged the influences on Mercury. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ____________________________ Dear David, Either some mails are not reaching my mailbox at all or is slow forwarding them on...either way I seem to have missed Shan's earlier response. In any case, might I draw your attention to Rahu's dispositor (9th lord Mercury), conjunct 12th lord Jupiter in 5th house of mind, whilst both are combust 8th lord Sun. Bearing in mind that 8th & 12th are moksha houses and 9th is the house of religion/higher knowledge (Vedic knowledge) etc.. I'd be interested to see your (and others) interpretation of this. __ Dear Wendy, Thank you for your kind response. Shan did respond and my reply sent to him yesterday has not reached him. I forwarded a copy of my response to him today. You had some reservation about my thoughts. Would you kindly elaborate so that I may learn. Thank you. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Dear Venkat, Yes I agree, the transit of lagnesh Sani through 6th (12th from natal position) is certain to bring some difficulties which should ease significantly when he moves into Cancer. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Dear Shan, With the information that you have provided, I am afraid t I will not be able to add much to the comments made by David, Wendy and Sumit. At the time your wrote your mail, it is quite obvious that you were feeling very low. It will be useful if we knew how long things have been that way and what exactly is the area of life which is causing the problem. Assuming that your problem is about 3-4 months old, I would say that things should improve considerably by mid-June. Mid Jan saturn reentered Gemini in its retrogade motion. There it is in the 6th from your ascendant and 12th from the natal position of Dasa lord saturn. Mid June it will enter cancer. It will then be conjunct Dasa Lord and in a Kendra from the Ascendant.The Bhukti lord Jupiter is already in the 9th from Ascendant and the 5th from its natal position in taurus. So things should definitely look up by mid-June. All the best and regards, venkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Dear Shan, In order to reply to earlier queries, i will resort to Mrs.Wendy's mail below and add further by saying that after Mercury you will have Ketu dasa. Hence the spiritual force acting in your chart will get predominance for the next 24 years. Also note that, you are now around 26 years old. As you get older your Jupiter and Saturn will get more and more effective. Hope you can see the bigger picture now after all these discussions. Another comment on Mercury dasa. Since Mercury is a very fast moving planet, it tends to destroy inertia and greatly destabilise the current situation. You may suddenly find that the world around you changed completely and you are doing something very very different than what you are doing now. Coming back to the mental agony you are going thru, a small piece of advice from me as a friend. When asc lord is placed in 7th house, the native normally is never satisfied in his life. Even if he is doing very well, he will feel like achieving more and thus burns out himself. As in your case, the planet is Saturn, it makes your drive more focussed. However, as you have Jupiter's wisdom acting on your asc i am sure you can dissociate yourself from such compulsions. Have fun and take care. Best regards, Sumit jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@j...> wrote: > Dear David and All, > > Just trying to point out that the upcoming Mercury dasa has to be > judged according to his overall condition...not just lordship. The > combustion is an important consideration and just who is combusting > who is equally important. Mercury is greatly influenced by the > planet(s) he's associated with and, as we see, he's strongly > associated with two moksha lords - conjunct 12th (moksha) lord > Jupiter and both he and Jupiter are combust 8th (moksha) lord Sun > who BTW occupies Mercury's own sign (Gemini). > > Jupiter is the significator of religion/knowledge etc and Mercury is > lord of 9th house of religion and higher knowledge...being the > planet of the intellect (the planet of learning) in the 5th house of > mind/intelligence, we might perhaps assume that Mercury dasa will > draw the native to a deeper study of matters related to higher > knowledge/moksha and so forth...with the passion of Rahu who > occupies his home? > > Of course even the best dasa has it's ups and downs and this is > particularly so for a combust planet. Combusted by 8th lord suggests > some changes/upheavals during this period. > > Others may like to comment further... and (please) feel free to > correct if I've misjudged the influences on Mercury. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ____________________________ > > Dear David, > > Either some mails are not reaching my mailbox at all or is > slow forwarding them on...either way I seem to have missed Shan's > earlier response. > > In any case, might I draw your attention to Rahu's dispositor (9th > lord Mercury), conjunct 12th lord Jupiter in 5th house of mind, > whilst both are combust 8th lord Sun. Bearing in mind that 8th & > 12th are moksha houses and 9th is the house of religion/higher > knowledge (Vedic knowledge) etc.. > > I'd be interested to see your (and others) interpretation of this. > > __ > > Dear Wendy, > Thank you for your kind response. Shan did respond and my reply sent > to him yesterday has not reached him. I forwarded a copy of my > response to him today. > You had some reservation about my thoughts. Would you kindly > elaborate so that I may learn. > Thank you. > > David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Dear Shan, As you wrote you have been learing Vedic Astrology and raised questions about certain placements and talked of Astakavarga, I am just making certain observations on them. A planet which is connected with 5th house and Mercury given you the opportunity to learn astrology in it is AD. Mars certainly causes to rise Ruchaka Yoga in your chart. It does not mean Mars would not behave as a malefic. Mars would behave as malefic in certain areas. Consider the plaent which is conjoined with him. Consider the mutual aspect of Saturn and Mars involving the 4th and 7th House. Of Course Saturn is your Lagna Lord and who is the 7th lord of your navamsa and placed in 7th house in both charts. Your Mercury and Jupiter are having good points. Consider the house in which they are placed. It has got below average points. Lagna lord Saturn is having a poor points. He was transiting over the houses which are having below average points in SAV. When Saturn moves to Cancer the position would improve certainly but not spectacularly since that house is also having 23 points only in SAV. In my opinion, Mercury would take you away from your birth place for profession. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. PS: Your chart has good potential for learning astrology. Do not leave it. The enusing Mercury dasha would be favourable for this pursuit. My intention to post this message is to draw your attention to certain points to be taken care of by a student of astrology not to make you further worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Dear friend, It is a good question. Why a particular chart/question is getting number of responses and some are totally avoided in the list. I personally of the opinion that, the help or any kind of assistance that one is going to get is also depend on one's effective dasha running. Consider the dasha is operating in the chart of Shan. You would understand. It is the question of time avaliable with the Members of the List could be one of the reasons that certain questions are not getting enough response. Generally, I cast all charts but at times I dont feel writing my view to avoid unnecessary arguments. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Dear Ravindramani, For my part time is definately a big factor as I'm also quite busy off-list and time must be taken for adequate rest. Also the way the query is put dertermines greatly whether (or not) I'm moved to respond. I've commented on countless charts over the years and more and more I find the feedback is less and less...perhaps I expect too much, perhaps I'm too vigilant against jyotish-vidya crossing over from a "discussion" group to a "shop for readings" - which can be hard to turn around once it does. Perhaps dasa lord Mercury's transit through Pisces is just a bit much to struggle through without sufficient stimulation from the queriant. I've seen the comments of Patrice (and many, many others) fall on deaf ears time and time again...little wonder they're reluctant to go on doing that! Having said that, I do agree that the running dasa and/or transits at the time (of both the queriant and the astrologer) has a lot to do with how and/or whether the question is responded to. As for your reluctance to comment for fear of arguments(?) - I'm quite surprised! Surely discussing the pros and cons of a chart (or a particular jyotish principle) is the whole purpose of a "jyotish DISCUSSION group". When that kind of discussion ceases the group has lost its intention. Kundalika also recently made a similar comment i.e.. >>Many of you are old members of the original list, so I am posting an update on my chart. For study only, not for onlist interpretations (which sometimes get nasty and personal).<< If members hold different views regarding certain principles they need only add (IN MY OPINION) to their comments and it can be understood clearly that this is the opinion of the member that's being put forward and not a hard and fast dictum. Such opinions also add to the overall learning of the group if they can be verified with examples. Unfortunately this can (too easily) be taken personally and deemed to be argumentative?? There seems to be another mood on the list these days and I'm feeling that perhaps it's time I stepped away from the internet and devoted my time exclusively to putting my thoughts into another form...there just aren't enough hours in the day for both and certainly, at the moment, the latter seems the most appealing. Years (and years) of dealing with so many different personalities, different motives, different levels of understanding, different loyalties, different techniques, and so on and on and on, is taking its toll. So I'm going to take a break for the rest of the week and let the group take care of itself for awhile... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ Dear friend, It is a good question. Why a particular chart/question is getting number of responses and some are totally avoided in the list. I personally of the opinion that, the help or any kind of assistance that one is going to get is also depend on one's effective dasha running. Consider the dasha is operating in the chart of Shan. You would understand. It is the question of time avaliable with the Members of the List could be one of the reasons that certain questions are not getting enough response. Generally, I cast all charts but at times I dont feel writing my view to avoid unnecessary arguments. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Dear Mrs. Wendy, There is no doubt at all in anybody's mind that generally you are the first one to respond to the questions/charts posed by the members in the List. I know you must be hard pressed for time of late. I believe, we always want to open to the views of others, but at times our mind is so conditiond that it is very difficult to unlearn the learnt already. Yes. Healthy arguments are absolutely essential in a discussion board/List. As you are quite aware, even in the old list, how may members were really discussed/participated in the list activities. You can count them very easily. I think we know each others view ( that is to say most of the members' view poits ) very well on most of the controversial issues often visiting the lists time and again. My expression on "to avoid arguments or fear of arguments" means, when those very issues are raised again, I prefer to keep silent. >>>>>Years (and years) of dealing with so many different personalities, different motives, different levels of understanding, different loyalties, different techniques, and so on and on and on, is taking its toll.>>>>> Well, no comments. :-)) Regards, Sincerely C.S. Ravindramani. PS: Maharishi Ramana says, Why waste time in learning and learning, reading and reading books after books. You have to unlearn everything at one point of time. I think Jyotish is no exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Dear Wendy, Thank you for your personal perspective on answering/discussing charts. I can appreciate your frustration and time restraints responding to such requests when there is little interest in feedback from the person themselves or further affirmation/discussion - investigation from others. That said - I would like to expand my thoughts. On Jyotish-Vidya I find this to be a very sensitive area to know one's place in putting forth or responding. I say that not as a criticism as much as out of respect. Let me explain. Jyotish-Vidya is one of the VERY FEW groups on the forums to be authentic and sincere. The description on the main page states that Jyotish-Vidya is not the place for chart reading. In fact, it is encouraged that one find a personal astrologer elsewhere. The problem then becomes - how do members present a chart for Discussion whether it is theirs or another's without crossing this ethical line of agreement when joining Jyotish-Vidya. Further - from my own position. I try to acknowledge anyone who has taken the time to respond to a question or inquiry I have. Also, too, I take a great deal of interest in what is put forth on this group because I am learning. I don't think I have anything to debate or question on someone's astrological perspective or breakdown - when I don't know myself how to respond correctly in Astro speak or Vedas. If I can say I understand the whole. And, I understand how and why someone is putting forth their assessment and explanation - then it is not for me to take a position to disagree or challenge. Rather, I try to go to my books or your website to further investigate and understand where I am confused or need further explanation. I believe that others who have posted with doubt or further need have been encouraged to do the same as I have been advised in the past. Too, I am not on top of all the discussions here and when I go to check the archives - or find the beginning of a thread - it often does not follow everyone's response. I don't know if this is a problem with or if people are communicating privately off list and then when moved to share, post their most recent thought on the forum. This becomes a personal problem for me - in that on a few occasions when I have posted, I have not received an answer. My conclusion then is one: I didn't ask the question properly, two: I have offended someone, three: I overstepped my inquiry or four: my request was not worth an answer. Not worth an answer could mean - the question has already been answered earlier and I was not on the ball to catch it or the question was to simplistic or again, I overstepped the quidelines of inquiry. The guidelines of inquiry could mean that others view my post as self serving. The sensitivity then becomes a need for further guidelines presenting charts and inquiries. Then an encouragement of Discussion surrounding an astrological point or question along with Jyothish veda/s in a chart/inquiry that has been presented. Finally, I appreciate Jyotish-Vidya and find it a refreshing forum amongst the many that are less than their purpose and often feed on exploitation and personal agendas. Hope you rest well Wendy. I look forward to your return next week. Uttara p.s. I don't have any suggestions to weed out those that use a forum for their own gain without WANTING to be an active part of that group. Unless the moderator/s follow posts and send private notices/warnings to those that are not responding to others who have taken the time, knowledge and energy to answer or acknowledge them. jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@j...> wrote: > Dear Ravindramani, > > For my part time is definately a big factor as I'm also quite busy off-list and time must be taken for adequate rest. Also the way the query is put dertermines greatly whether (or not) I'm moved to respond. I've commented on countless charts over the years and more and more I find the feedback is less and less...perhaps I expect too much, perhaps I'm too vigilant against jyotish-vidya crossing over from a "discussion" group to a "shop for readings" - which can be hard to turn around once it does. Perhaps dasa lord Mercury's transit through Pisces is just a bit much to struggle through without sufficient stimulation from the queriant. > > I've seen the comments of Patrice (and many, many others) fall on deaf ears time and time again...little wonder they're reluctant to go on doing that! > > Having said that, I do agree that the running dasa and/or transits at the time (of both the queriant and the astrologer) has a lot to do with how and/or whether the question is responded to. > > As for your reluctance to comment for fear of arguments(?) - I'm quite surprised! Surely discussing the pros and cons of a chart (or a particular jyotish principle) is the whole purpose of a "jyotish DISCUSSION group". > When that kind of discussion ceases the group has lost its intention. > > Kundalika also recently made a similar comment i.e.. > >>Many of you are old members of the original list, so I am posting an > update on my chart. For study only, not for onlist interpretations > (which sometimes get nasty and personal).<< > > If members hold different views regarding certain principles they need only add (IN MY OPINION) to their comments and it can be understood clearly that this is the opinion of the member that's being put forward and not a hard and fast dictum. Such opinions also add to the overall learning of the group if they can be verified with examples. Unfortunately this can (too easily) be taken personally and deemed to be argumentative?? > > There seems to be another mood on the list these days and I'm feeling that perhaps it's time I stepped away from the internet and devoted my time exclusively to putting my thoughts into another form...there just aren't enough hours in the day for both and certainly, at the moment, the latter seems the most appealing. > > Years (and years) of dealing with so many different personalities, different motives, different levels of understanding, different loyalties, different techniques, and so on and on and on, is taking its toll. > > So I'm going to take a break for the rest of the week and let the group take care of itself for awhile... > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > Dear friend, > > It is a good question. Why a particular chart/question is getting > number of responses and some are totally avoided in the list. > > I personally of the opinion that, the help or any kind of assistance > that one is going to get is also depend on one's effective dasha > running. Consider the dasha is operating in the chart of Shan. You > would understand. > > It is the question of time avaliable with the Members of the List > could be one of the reasons that certain questions are not getting > enough response. > > Generally, I cast all charts but at times I dont feel writing my view > to avoid unnecessary arguments. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 Dear Uttara, Many thanks for your thoughtful mail. I think the crux of the problem is that everybody (astrologers included, if not particularly) are affected by negative transits. No doubt with dasa lord Mercury (ascendant lord's dispositor) transiting sign of debilitation in company of bhukti lord Rahu whilst dispositor Jupiter is conjunct Ketu in 9th; and PD lord (lagnesh Sani) transits 6th house of obstacles, there is sure to be some uneasiness...to put it mildly :-( I can understand members sensitivity in regards to requests for readings but really the difference between a genuine query or request for discussion on a particular chart as opposed to one that simply demands "hey tell me about my career" (or some such thing) is fairly obvious. But again, the current transits are not all that favourable in terms of patience and understanding on my part and I can only apologise to all for my bad humour at the moment... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Dear Wendy, Thank you for your personal perspective on answering/discussing charts. I can appreciate your frustration and time restraints responding to such requests when there is little interest in feedback from the person themselves or further affirmation/discussion - investigation from others. That said - I would like to expand my thoughts. On Jyotish-Vidya I find this to be a very sensitive area to know one's place in putting forth or responding. I say that not as a criticism as much as out of respect. Let me explain. Jyotish-Vidya is one of the VERY FEW groups on the forums to be authentic and sincere. The description on the main page states that Jyotish-Vidya is not the place for chart reading. In fact, it is encouraged that one find a personal astrologer elsewhere. The problem then becomes - how do members present a chart for Discussion whether it is theirs or another's without crossing this ethical line of agreement when joining Jyotish-Vidya. Further - from my own position. I try to acknowledge anyone who has taken the time to respond to a question or inquiry I have. Also, too, I take a great deal of interest in what is put forth on this group because I am learning. I don't think I have anything to debate or question on someone's astrological perspective or breakdown - when I don't know myself how to respond correctly in Astro speak or Vedas. If I can say I understand the whole. And, I understand how and why someone is putting forth their assessment and explanation - then it is not for me to take a position to disagree or challenge. Rather, I try to go to my books or your website to further investigate and understand where I am confused or need further explanation. I believe that others who have posted with doubt or further need have been encouraged to do the same as I have been advised in the past. Too, I am not on top of all the discussions here and when I go to check the archives - or find the beginning of a thread - it often does not follow everyone's response. I don't know if this is a problem with or if people are communicating privately off list and then when moved to share, post their most recent thought on the forum. This becomes a personal problem for me - in that on a few occasions when I have posted, I have not received an answer. My conclusion then is one: I didn't ask the question properly, two: I have offended someone, three: I overstepped my inquiry or four: my request was not worth an answer. Not worth an answer could mean - the question has already been answered earlier and I was not on the ball to catch it or the question was to simplistic or again, I overstepped the quidelines of inquiry. The guidelines of inquiry could mean that others view my post as self serving. The sensitivity then becomes a need for further guidelines presenting charts and inquiries. Then an encouragement of Discussion surrounding an astrological point or question along with Jyothish veda/s in a chart/inquiry that has been presented. Finally, I appreciate Jyotish-Vidya and find it a refreshing forum amongst the many that are less than their purpose and often feed on exploitation and personal agendas. Hope you rest well Wendy. I look forward to your return next week. Uttara p.s. I don't have any suggestions to weed out those that use a forum for their own gain without WANTING to be an active part of that group. Unless the moderator/s follow posts and send private notices/warnings to those that are not responding to others who have taken the time, knowledge and energy to answer or acknowledge them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Dear Sumit, David, Ravindramani and Wendy, You will remember Shan who came on the list a few days back saying that he was feeling very low in life. We could not help him too much then because he was not too forthcoming with the details of his problem. Recently I had a chat with him on the net when he opened out more freely. I have his permission to share the details with you all. I will myself get back with my analysis in a day or two. Would like to see your views as well on this case. The transcript of our chat is below: nick2002000: hi nick2002000: i am a member of jyothish group nick2002000: how r u...? svenkat52: hello, i am fine nick2002000: free for a talk....? svenkat52: for some time yes nick2002000: nothing, just some talk about astrology svenkat52: are you on jyotish-vidya nick2002000: yea nick2002000: where r u from svenkat52: bombay, what about you nick2002000: i am in dubai nick2002000: shall i ask u few doubts svenkat52: you are shan nick2002000: yes svenkat52: please ask nick2002000: how dou knwo me nick2002000: did we talk b4 svenkat52: no, you posted recently saying that you were feeling very down nick2002000: yea svenkat52: how are things now nick2002000: still the same nick2002000: no idea, wat's going on svenkat52: as i said in my post things should look up by mid june nick2002000: u mean, after sani moves to cancer ? svenkat52: yes, if i remember right you are running sani dasa now nick2002000: yes svenkat52: sani in 12th to natal sani can cause such problems nick2002000: but struggles have been going on from long time svenkat52: when did your problem start nick2002000: hmmm nick2002000: to say, it was in 1994. my we had business. suddenly it all came to an end due to some problem. nick2002000: we moved back to india. nick2002000: my father fell ill, his leg had to be amputated nick2002000: i was studying nick2002000: he passed away in 1998 nick2002000: my studies came to and nick2002000: an end nick2002000: i had to go looking for a job nick2002000: b'cos i was the eldest nick2002000: sorry , from 1996 svenkat52: you mean problems started in 1996 nick2002000: my life had been full of struggles nick2002000: yes svenkat52: what are you doing now in dubai nick2002000: literally, mine and familes life changed entirely nick2002000: just managing a computer business nick2002000: for the time being nick2002000: as i can't do anything now, i want to continue my studies svenkat52: while doing your computer business nick2002000: no nick2002000: i will quit it svenkat52: anybody to support you nick2002000: nope nick2002000: i am all alone nick2002000: i told u, from 1996 all our relatives turned their back on us svenkat52: you say us - who else is with you nick2002000: i was supporting my family from then, and by god's grace i had done it very well nick2002000: i meant my bro, sis, mother svenkat52: they are in dubai or india nick2002000: india svenkat52: my advice - continue in business and support them svenkat52: you will get a chance to study later nick2002000: my brother has finished his studies & he will soon get a job svenkat52: good, your family will be less dependent then on you nick2002000: i hope so nick2002000: my marriage is fixed this august, nick2002000: any suggestion svenkat52: great, continue to work. you have now a wife to support svenkat52: don't lose heart nick2002000: i won't nick2002000: i have reached this far and i will go on svenkat52: great nick2002000: i am planning to go fo rmy higher studies aftre marriage svenkat52: what would you like to do nick2002000: but i need support from friends like you nick2002000: i am an aircraft engineer svenkat52: what support nick2002000: finished diploma (london) nick2002000: analyze my chart nick2002000: & tell me all u can svenkat52: most certainly, can i share this additional info with friends in jyotish-vidya svenkat52: they are great nick2002000: wouldn't they think i am hopeless ? nick2002000: i don't want people to sympathatize with me svenkat52: no, they are the most helpful lot i know nick2002000: if u think so, i would appreciate it svenkat52: idea is not sympathy but get all the help that is possible thro jyotish nick2002000: that's wat i am trying to svenkat52: anything else you want to share that can help us in analysing your chart nick2002000: listen, since my lagna lord is in 7th. I should be following the dwisapthati sama dasha & not vimshottari. Right ? svenkat52: i know only vimshottari nick2002000: i meant, i have read that since the lagna lord is in 7th svenkat52: vimshottari has all the answers svenkat52: people on jyotish-vidya may know more about other dasa nick2002000: k nick2002000: few people commented on vimshottari nick2002000: see, from my chart can u tell me how successful will i be financially svenkat52: will try nick2002000: will my next dasha of mercury, will be good for me ? svenkat52: i don't have your chart with me now, will study and revert in a day or two nick2002000: great of you svenkat52: as i said, will share this info with Jyotish-vidya friends and you can have even better advice nick2002000: my mercury is in 5th (taurus) , lord of 6th & 9th. with 5 points in astakavarga nick2002000: any comments svenkat52: no comments now, i like to comment on the basis of the whole chart and not on just one factor or the other nick2002000: just asking svenkat52: shall we say bye for now; got to go out nick2002000: when shall i expect your reply ? svenkat52: as i said in a day or two on jyotish-vidya nick2002000: thaks & regards nick2002000: nice meeting you svenkat52: bye nick2002000: bye & take care Regards, Venkat jyotish-vidya, "S. Venkatraman" <svenkat52> wrote: > Dear Shan, > > With the information that you have provided, I am afraid t I will > not be able to add much to the comments made by David, Wendy and > Sumit. At the time your wrote your mail, it is quite obvious that > you were feeling very low. It will be useful if we knew how long > things have been that way and what exactly is the area of life which > is causing the problem. > > Assuming that your problem is about 3-4 months old, I would say that > things should improve considerably by mid-June. Mid Jan saturn > reentered Gemini in its retrogade motion. There it is in the 6th > from your ascendant and 12th from the natal position of Dasa lord > saturn. Mid June it will enter cancer. It will then be conjunct Dasa > Lord and in a Kendra from the Ascendant.The Bhukti lord Jupiter is > already in the 9th from Ascendant and the 5th from its natal > position in taurus. > > So things should definitely look up by mid-June. All the best and > regards, > > venkat > jyotish-vidya, "nick2002000" > <nick2002000> wrote: > > Thank you sumit, > > > > You have provided a few valuable info, which i couldn't observe.If > > you find time, could you please analyze my Navamsha chart too ? > > And, you haven't specified which of the counteracting force is > going > > to have influence greater influence on me. > > > > I am not taking too much of your valuable time. > > > > Thanks & Regards > > shan > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, "sumit_dasgupta" > > <sumit_dasgupta> wrote: > > > Dear Shan, > > > > > > As you haven't specify which area of your life is particularly > > having > > > problems, i have tried to give a broader view to your chart and > > looked > > > for patterns. Citing my observations below- > > > > > > You have two very counteracting forces operating in your chart, > > one > > > tends to draw you towards spiritualism and another towards > > > materialistic indulgence. Let me explain them one after another. > > > > > > Saturn(probably the most occult planet)lagna lord aspecting > lagna, > > 9th > > > house and 10th lord; Jupiter being 12th lord and dispositor of > > Ketu > > > aspecting 9th house; moon(represents mind)with Sun. These are > all > > > factors which promote spirituality. > > > > > > On the other hand, Lagna falls on an earthy sign which is also > > > exaltation sign of Mars. Mars with 10th lord Venus is in 4th > house > > > (represents things which support our physical and emotional > > existance > > > e.g. house, vehicles etc) aspects lagna lord. These are factors > > > supporting materialistic pursuit. > > > > > > Hence, according to me, these two strong opposite forces will > try > > to > > > destabilise you often and disturb your mind. > > > > > > Two more additional important features are as below- > > > > > > 1. Kalasarpa Yoga >> those who support the existance of this > Yoga, > > say > > > that this tend to limit human potential. > > > 2. Look at your 7th, 6th and 5th houses. All their lords are > > posited in > > > the 12th houses from their respective houses. Frankly speaking, > i > > can't > > > interpret the long term effect of this pattern; leaving it for > > other > > > learned members to comment. > > > > > > Thanks & best regards, > > > Sumit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, "nick2002000" > > <nick2002000> > > > wrote: > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > I am going through very bad times, some learned members please > > help > > > me > > > > by analyzing my chart.I am under sade sati too. I am losing my > > > > confidence. I have been learning vedic astrology since 2 > years. > > But i > > > > am confused in analyzing my chart. > > > > > > > > DOB: 18/06/1977 > > > > TOB: 22:00 PM > > > > POB:PARAVUR(KERALA). LONG: 76E44, LAT:8N46. > > > > > > > > Please assist...... > > > > Awaiting an earliest response.... > > > > > > > > SHAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Dear Shri Venkatraman, You elicited a lot of information which will enable members of the group to analyse his chart and thus help him. I tried to get as much information as possible and realized that he may not divulge and withdrew from further analysis. Thank you for sharing the information you gleaned from him. David "S. Venkatraman" <svenkat52 wrote: Dear Sumit, David, Ravindramani and Wendy, You will remember Shan who came on the list a few days back saying that he was feeling very low in life. We could not help him too much then because he was not too forthcoming with the details of his problem. Recently I had a chat with him on the net when he opened out more freely. I have his permission to share the details with you all. I will myself get back with my analysis in a day or two. Would like to see your views as well on this case. The transcript of our chat is below: nick2002000: hi nick2002000: i am a member of jyothish group nick2002000: how r u...? svenkat52: hello, i am fine nick2002000: free for a talk....? svenkat52: for some time yes nick2002000: nothing, just some talk about astrology svenkat52: are you on jyotish-vidya nick2002000: yea nick2002000: where r u from svenkat52: bombay, what about you nick2002000: i am in dubai nick2002000: shall i ask u few doubts svenkat52: you are shan nick2002000: yes svenkat52: please ask nick2002000: how dou knwo me nick2002000: did we talk b4 svenkat52: no, you posted recently saying that you were feeling very down nick2002000: yea svenkat52: how are things now nick2002000: still the same nick2002000: no idea, wat's going on svenkat52: as i said in my post things should look up by mid june nick2002000: u mean, after sani moves to cancer ? svenkat52: yes, if i remember right you are running sani dasa now nick2002000: yes svenkat52: sani in 12th to natal sani can cause such problems nick2002000: but struggles have been going on from long time svenkat52: when did your problem start nick2002000: hmmm nick2002000: to say, it was in 1994. my we had business. suddenly it all came to an end due to some problem. nick2002000: we moved back to india. nick2002000: my father fell ill, his leg had to be amputated nick2002000: i was studying nick2002000: he passed away in 1998 nick2002000: my studies came to and nick2002000: an end nick2002000: i had to go looking for a job nick2002000: b'cos i was the eldest nick2002000: sorry , from 1996 svenkat52: you mean problems started in 1996 nick2002000: my life had been full of struggles nick2002000: yes svenkat52: what are you doing now in dubai nick2002000: literally, mine and familes life changed entirely nick2002000: just managing a computer business nick2002000: for the time being nick2002000: as i can't do anything now, i want to continue my studies svenkat52: while doing your computer business nick2002000: no nick2002000: i will quit it svenkat52: anybody to support you nick2002000: nope nick2002000: i am all alone nick2002000: i told u, from 1996 all our relatives turned their back on us svenkat52: you say us - who else is with you nick2002000: i was supporting my family from then, and by god's grace i had done it very well nick2002000: i meant my bro, sis, mother svenkat52: they are in dubai or india nick2002000: india svenkat52: my advice - continue in business and support them svenkat52: you will get a chance to study later nick2002000: my brother has finished his studies & he will soon get a job svenkat52: good, your family will be less dependent then on you nick2002000: i hope so nick2002000: my marriage is fixed this august, nick2002000: any suggestion svenkat52: great, continue to work. you have now a wife to support svenkat52: don't lose heart nick2002000: i won't nick2002000: i have reached this far and i will go on svenkat52: great nick2002000: i am planning to go fo rmy higher studies aftre marriage svenkat52: what would you like to do nick2002000: but i need support from friends like you nick2002000: i am an aircraft engineer svenkat52: what support nick2002000: finished diploma (london) nick2002000: analyze my chart nick2002000: & tell me all u can svenkat52: most certainly, can i share this additional info with friends in jyotish-vidya svenkat52: they are great nick2002000: wouldn't they think i am hopeless ? nick2002000: i don't want people to sympathatize with me svenkat52: no, they are the most helpful lot i know nick2002000: if u think so, i would appreciate it svenkat52: idea is not sympathy but get all the help that is possible thro jyotish nick2002000: that's wat i am trying to svenkat52: anything else you want to share that can help us in analysing your chart nick2002000: listen, since my lagna lord is in 7th. I should be following the dwisapthati sama dasha & not vimshottari. Right ? svenkat52: i know only vimshottari nick2002000: i meant, i have read that since the lagna lord is in 7th svenkat52: vimshottari has all the answers svenkat52: people on jyotish-vidya may know more about other dasa nick2002000: k nick2002000: few people commented on vimshottari nick2002000: see, from my chart can u tell me how successful will i be financially svenkat52: will try nick2002000: will my next dasha of mercury, will be good for me ? svenkat52: i don't have your chart with me now, will study and revert in a day or two nick2002000: great of you svenkat52: as i said, will share this info with Jyotish-vidya friends and you can have even better advice nick2002000: my mercury is in 5th (taurus) , lord of 6th & 9th. with 5 points in astakavarga nick2002000: any comments svenkat52: no comments now, i like to comment on the basis of the whole chart and not on just one factor or the other nick2002000: just asking svenkat52: shall we say bye for now; got to go out nick2002000: when shall i expect your reply ? svenkat52: as i said in a day or two on jyotish-vidya nick2002000: thaks & regards nick2002000: nice meeting you svenkat52: bye nick2002000: bye & take care Regards, Venkat jyotish-vidya, "S. Venkatraman" <svenkat52> wrote: > Dear Shan, > > With the information that you have provided, I am afraid t I will > not be able to add much to the comments made by David, Wendy and > Sumit. At the time your wrote your mail, it is quite obvious that > you were feeling very low. It will be useful if we knew how long > things have been that way and what exactly is the area of life which > is causing the problem. > > Assuming that your problem is about 3-4 months old, I would say that > things should improve considerably by mid-June. Mid Jan saturn > reentered Gemini in its retrogade motion. There it is in the 6th > from your ascendant and 12th from the natal position of Dasa lord > saturn. Mid June it will enter cancer. It will then be conjunct Dasa > Lord and in a Kendra from the Ascendant.The Bhukti lord Jupiter is > already in the 9th from Ascendant and the 5th from its natal > position in taurus. > > So things should definitely look up by mid-June. All the best and > regards, > > venkat > jyotish-vidya, "nick2002000" > <nick2002000> wrote: > > Thank you sumit, > > > > You have provided a few valuable info, which i couldn't observe.If > > you find time, could you please analyze my Navamsha chart too ? > > And, you haven't specified which of the counteracting force is > going > > to have influence greater influence on me. > > > > I am not taking too much of your valuable time. > > > > Thanks & Regards > > shan > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, "sumit_dasgupta" > > <sumit_dasgupta> wrote: > > > Dear Shan, > > > > > > As you haven't specify which area of your life is particularly > > having > > > problems, i have tried to give a broader view to your chart and > > looked > > > for patterns. Citing my observations below- > > > > > > You have two very counteracting forces operating in your chart, > > one > > > tends to draw you towards spiritualism and another towards > > > materialistic indulgence. Let me explain them one after another. > > > > > > Saturn(probably the most occult planet)lagna lord aspecting > lagna, > > 9th > > > house and 10th lord; Jupiter being 12th lord and dispositor of > > Ketu > > > aspecting 9th house; moon(represents mind)with Sun. These are > all > > > factors which promote spirituality. > > > > > > On the other hand, Lagna falls on an earthy sign which is also > > > exaltation sign of Mars. Mars with 10th lord Venus is in 4th > house > > > (represents things which support our physical and emotional > > existance > > > e.g. house, vehicles etc) aspects lagna lord. These are factors > > > supporting materialistic pursuit. > > > > > > Hence, according to me, these two strong opposite forces will > try > > to > > > destabilise you often and disturb your mind. > > > > > > Two more additional important features are as below- > > > > > > 1. Kalasarpa Yoga >> those who support the existance of this > Yoga, > > say > > > that this tend to limit human potential. > > > 2. Look at your 7th, 6th and 5th houses. All their lords are > > posited in > > > the 12th houses from their respective houses. Frankly speaking, > i > > can't > > > interpret the long term effect of this pattern; leaving it for > > other > > > learned members to comment. > > > > > > Thanks & best regards, > > > Sumit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, "nick2002000" > > <nick2002000> > > > wrote: > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > I am going through very bad times, some learned members please > > help > > > me > > > > by analyzing my chart.I am under sade sati too. I am losing my > > > > confidence. I have been learning vedic astrology since 2 > years. > > But i > > > > am confused in analyzing my chart. > > > > > > > > DOB: 18/06/1977 > > > > TOB: 22:00 PM > > > > POB:PARAVUR(KERALA). LONG: 76E44, LAT:8N46. > > > > > > > > Please assist...... > > > > Awaiting an earliest response.... > > > > > > > > SHAN. jyotish-vidya/ jyotish-vidya Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Hello Wendy, Despite the fact of tranist and influence ones own issues, probably it is most appropriate and your observation that "demands "hey tell me about my career in this platform just for the sake of getting rid of some curiosity,many people come forward and post them to the group.Sure as you say:"I can understand members sensitivity in regards to requests for readings" but then it is not that we meant only for the sake of providing replies to the future and assure their future.I am of the opinion the posts need some where some kind of ratings from the point of helplessness and need and in a general to improve the morale of the people who have really got frustated with their lot. That's how we can do some justice in the group and get in the process enhanced scope of knowledge. I am sure every body may also be feeling but might not have ventilated.I join with your views i this regard. with best wishes krishnan Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote: Dear Uttara, Many thanks for your thoughtful mail. I think the crux of the problem is that everybody (astrologers included, if not particularly) are affected by negative transits. No doubt with dasa lord Mercury (ascendant lord's dispositor) transiting sign of debilitation in company of bhukti lord Rahu whilst dispositor Jupiter is conjunct Ketu in 9th; and PD lord (lagnesh Sani) transits 6th house of obstacles, there is sure to be some uneasiness...to put it mildly :-( I can understand members sensitivity in regards to requests for readings but really the difference between a genuine query or request for discussion on a particular chart as opposed to one that simply demands "hey tell me about my career" (or some such thing) is fairly obvious. But again, the current transits are not all that favourable in terms of patience and understanding on my part and I can only apologise to all for my bad humour at the moment... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Dear Wendy, Thank you for your personal perspective on answering/discussing charts. I can appreciate your frustration and time restraints responding to such requests when there is little interest in feedback from the person themselves or further affirmation/discussion - investigation from others. That said - I would like to expand my thoughts. On Jyotish-Vidya I find this to be a very sensitive area to know one's place in putting forth or responding. I say that not as a criticism as much as out of respect. Let me explain. Jyotish-Vidya is one of the VERY FEW groups on the forums to be authentic and sincere. The description on the main page states that Jyotish-Vidya is not the place for chart reading. In fact, it is encouraged that one find a personal astrologer elsewhere. The problem then becomes - how do members present a chart for Discussion whether it is theirs or another's without crossing this ethical line of agreement when joining Jyotish-Vidya. Further - from my own position. I try to acknowledge anyone who has taken the time to respond to a question or inquiry I have. Also, too, I take a great deal of interest in what is put forth on this group because I am learning. I don't think I have anything to debate or question on someone's astrological perspective or breakdown - when I don't know myself how to respond correctly in Astro speak or Vedas. If I can say I understand the whole. And, I understand how and why someone is putting forth their assessment and explanation - then it is not for me to take a position to disagree or challenge. Rather, I try to go to my books or your website to further investigate and understand where I am confused or need further explanation. I believe that others who have posted with doubt or further need have been encouraged to do the same as I have been advised in the past. Too, I am not on top of all the discussions here and when I go to check the archives - or find the beginning of a thread - it often does not follow everyone's response. I don't know if this is a problem with or if people are communicating privately off list and then when moved to share, post their most recent thought on the forum. This becomes a personal problem for me - in that on a few occasions when I have posted, I have not received an answer. My conclusion then is one: I didn't ask the question properly, two: I have offended someone, three: I overstepped my inquiry or four: my request was not worth an answer. Not worth an answer could mean - the question has already been answered earlier and I was not on the ball to catch it or the question was to simplistic or again, I overstepped the quidelines of inquiry. The guidelines of inquiry could mean that others view my post as self serving. The sensitivity then becomes a need for further guidelines presenting charts and inquiries. Then an encouragement of Discussion surrounding an astrological point or question along with Jyothish veda/s in a chart/inquiry that has been presented. Finally, I appreciate Jyotish-Vidya and find it a refreshing forum amongst the many that are less than their purpose and often feed on exploitation and personal agendas. Hope you rest well Wendy. I look forward to your return next week. Uttara p.s. I don't have any suggestions to weed out those that use a forum for their own gain without WANTING to be an active part of that group. Unless the moderator/s follow posts and send private notices/warnings to those that are not responding to others who have taken the time, knowledge and energy to answer or acknowledge them. jyotish-vidya/ jyotish-vidya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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