Guest guest Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Almost all religions attach special value to light. Jyotish itself concerns light, and the fact that it is the eye of the Veda Purusha strengthens the connection. However, while light is important to most religions, greater still is liberation. And when we study the concept of liberation from the Jyotish angle, it throws up a few surprises. For one thing, the Moksha Karaka, Ketu, is a "chaya graha" or a shadowy planet. Sani, the Vairagya Karaka, is also considered a planet of darkness. Spirituality is considered lightness by most religions and materialism is held to be darkness, and so perhaps Rahu being a chaya graha is apt, since materialism and darkness seem to be appropriately mixed. However, applying "Sani Vad Rahu," we find that this need not be always true. Rahu the heretic is capable of providing spiritual knowledge to some, so even this cannot be held up as a general rule. What of the givers of the light? Surya is symbolic of the ego. Though representing the soul, he also represents kings, power, pelf, and the trappings thereof. His ego therefore blinds him, makes him seek power and shun equality (Surya attains Neechatva in Tula because he, being a king, dislikes the concept of equality represented by the scales). He is, in effect, in darkness because his own light blinds him! Chandra, who lightens up our lives at night most of the time except when conjunct Surya, is the mind and represents the fickleness thereof. Thus, the so-called givers of light are themselves not beyond scrutiny, and the planets of darkness sometimes serve to illuminate! In this context, one should consider a line from the Purusha Suktam, which says, "Chandraama manaso jatash chakshoh Suryo ajayata," proclaiming that the Moon came from His mind, and the Sun from His eyes. Chandra, who represents the mind, merely reflects the light of Surya. We see the light of Chandra and know that we are seeing the reflected light of Surya. This much we know from science. >From a spiritual point of view, we have to realize that, just as Chandra reminds us of Surya by reflecting his light, the mind should remind us about the soul. But, alas, the mind is weak. It relies on the sense organs. It needs the eyes to tell it that there is light, being incapable of perceiving light for itself. Therefore, the mind, dwelling upon the light seen by the eyes, forgets that the light of the soul is far greater that the light seen by the eyes. This is where the karakas of darkness, like Ketu, Sani, and even Rahu perhaps, come in. They overcome Surya and Chandra, thus negating the idea that light is what the eye sees. Then in the darkness, the mind can realize that the light of the soul is greater. The mind then perceives the soul, and just as Chandra's reflected light reminds us of Surya, similarly the soul reminds the mind of the Super Soul, the Supreme Being. In this context, Ketu, when conjunct Surya during an eclipse, robs the latter of his pride - light - and makes him realize that, more than light and ego, he, Surya, actually represents the soul. In this context, one could be permitted to interpret "Tamasoma Jyotir Gamaya" could indicate the light of the soul that illuminates the mind when the light that the eye sees is withheld. The light that all the religions refer to concerns not the light that the eye perceives. It concerns the light of the mind. And the mind stands illuminated when the eye perceives darkness, because the mind has to then look inward, not outward. So, let there be darkness - so that the mind, no longer being capable of relying on the eye for direction, seeks to understand the soul, and then slowly seeks refuge in the Super Soul! ~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ~~~~~~~ FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Pujay shri balaji, I always read yr comments, they are very interesting, now since u mentioned about Ketu - chhaya graha - moksha karaka - why is that some time person feels - Jagat Mithia - although around march /april I had question about the situation in which I am passing through as it is Ketu Maha dasha - while number of our respected brothers and sisters did mentioned about M / K . and i had said that I will let every one know my experience during this period . Hence as soon as I went through yr comments - i feel writing again - It is true that all the time I feel like doing prayers and materialistice world is becoming worthless - when in past I mmentioned that I do not feel taking any food - it so happened that one of our brother advised me do not give up - because u may feel weak - But belive me or not even water and juice is sufficient for me and I am always full of energy - In fact some days i sleep on 3/4 hours. As I pray Mother Kundlini - the thing which is happening within my-self is very hard to describe do u know any person from whom I can get a further guidance. Sorry I should give u my birth details as well in case if u feel going deeper in the chart. DOB 18 AUGUST 1931 POB KARACHI TOB 08.00AM WITH BEST WISHES TO ALL OUR GURUBHAI AND SISTERS - FOR HAPPY DIWALI AND NEW YEAR. pdk Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: Almost all religions attach special value to light. Jyotish itself concerns light, and the fact that it is the eye of the Veda Purusha strengthens the connection. However, while light is important to most religions, greater still is liberation. And when we study the concept of liberation from the Jyotish angle, it throws up a few surprises. For one thing, the Moksha Karaka, Ketu, is a "chaya graha" or a shadowy planet. Sani, the Vairagya Karaka, is also considered a planet of darkness. Spirituality is considered lightness by most religions and materialism is held to be darkness, and so perhaps Rahu being a chaya graha is apt, since materialism and darkness seem to be appropriately mixed. However, applying "Sani Vad Rahu," we find that this need not be always true. Rahu the heretic is capable of providing spiritual knowledge to some, so even this cannot be held up as a general rule. What of the givers of the light? Surya is symbolic of the ego. Though representing the soul, he also represents kings, power, pelf, and the trappings thereof. His ego therefore blinds him, makes him seek power and shun equality (Surya attains Neechatva in Tula because he, being a king, dislikes the concept of equality represented by the scales). He is, in effect, in darkness because his own light blinds him! Chandra, who lightens up our lives at night most of the time except when conjunct Surya, is the mind and represents the fickleness thereof. Thus, the so-called givers of light are themselves not beyond scrutiny, and the planets of darkness sometimes serve to illuminate! In this context, one should consider a line from the Purusha Suktam, which says, "Chandraama manaso jatash chakshoh Suryo ajayata," proclaiming that the Moon came from His mind, and the Sun from His eyes. Chandra, who represents the mind, merely reflects the light of Surya. We see the light of Chandra and know that we are seeing the reflected light of Surya. This much we know from science. >From a spiritual point of view, we have to realize that, just as Chandra reminds us of Surya by reflecting his light, the mind should remind us about the soul. But, alas, the mind is weak. It relies on the sense organs. It needs the eyes to tell it that there is light, being incapable of perceiving light for itself. Therefore, the mind, dwelling upon the light seen by the eyes, forgets that the light of the soul is far greater that the light seen by the eyes. This is where the karakas of darkness, like Ketu, Sani, and even Rahu perhaps, come in. They overcome Surya and Chandra, thus negating the idea that light is what the eye sees. Then in the darkness, the mind can realize that the light of the soul is greater. The mind then perceives the soul, and just as Chandra's reflected light reminds us of Surya, similarly the soul reminds the mind of the Super Soul, the Supreme Being. In this context, Ketu, when conjunct Surya during an eclipse, robs the latter of his pride - light - and makes him realize that, more than light and ego, he, Surya, actually represents the soul. In this context, one could be permitted to interpret "Tamasoma Jyotir Gamaya" could indicate the light of the soul that illuminates the mind when the light that the eye sees is withheld. The light that all the religions refer to concerns not the light that the eye perceives. It concerns the light of the mind. And the mind stands illuminated when the eye perceives darkness, because the mind has to then look inward, not outward. So, let there be darkness - so that the mind, no longer being capable of relying on the eye for direction, seeks to understand the soul, and then slowly seeks refuge in the Super Soul! ~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ~~~~~~~ FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Vedic astrology Personal reading Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Photos. Get Photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 dear kotak jagat is not mithya sansar and attachments and maya is mithya if jagat was mithya krishana and rama would not have bothered to bring order to this world to establish norms of true religion regs jiger - pdk kotak<ganeshji101 jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya> Cc: Balaji Narasimhan<sherlockbalaji Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:57 AM Re: Let there be darkness! Pujay shri balaji, I always read yr comments, they are very interesting, now since u mentioned about Ketu - chhaya graha - moksha karaka - why is that some time person feels - Jagat Mithia - although around march /april I had question about the situation in which I am passing through as it is Ketu Maha dasha - while number of our respected brothers and sisters did mentioned about M / K . and i had said that I will let every one know my experience during this period . Hence as soon as I went through yr comments - i feel writing again - It is true that all the time I feel like doing prayers and materialistice world is becoming worthless - when in past I mmentioned that I do not feel taking any food - it so happened that one of our brother advised me do not give up - because u may feel weak - But belive me or not even water and juice is sufficient for me and I am always full of energy - In fact some days i sleep on 3/4 hours. As I pray Mother Kundlini - the thing which is happening within my-self is very hard to describe do u know any person from whom I can get a further guidance. Sorry I should give u my birth details as well in case if u feel going deeper in the chart. DOB 18 AUGUST 1931 POB KARACHI TOB 08.00AM WITH BEST WISHES TO ALL OUR GURUBHAI AND SISTERS - FOR HAPPY DIWALI AND NEW YEAR. pdk Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: Almost all religions attach special value to light. Jyotish itself concerns light, and the fact that it is the eye of the Veda Purusha strengthens the connection. However, while light is important to most religions, greater still is liberation. And when we study the concept of liberation from the Jyotish angle, it throws up a few surprises. For one thing, the Moksha Karaka, Ketu, is a "chaya graha" or a shadowy planet. Sani, the Vairagya Karaka, is also considered a planet of darkness. Spirituality is considered lightness by most religions and materialism is held to be darkness, and so perhaps Rahu being a chaya graha is apt, since materialism and darkness seem to be appropriately mixed. However, applying "Sani Vad Rahu," we find that this need not be always true. Rahu the heretic is capable of providing spiritual knowledge to some, so even this cannot be held up as a general rule. What of the givers of the light? Surya is symbolic of the ego. Though representing the soul, he also represents kings, power, pelf, and the trappings thereof. His ego therefore blinds him, makes him seek power and shun equality (Surya attains Neechatva in Tula because he, being a king, dislikes the concept of equality represented by the scales). He is, in effect, in darkness because his own light blinds him! Chandra, who lightens up our lives at night most of the time except when conjunct Surya, is the mind and represents the fickleness thereof. Thus, the so-called givers of light are themselves not beyond scrutiny, and the planets of darkness sometimes serve to illuminate! In this context, one should consider a line from the Purusha Suktam, which says, "Chandraama manaso jatash chakshoh Suryo ajayata," proclaiming that the Moon came from His mind, and the Sun from His eyes. Chandra, who represents the mind, merely reflects the light of Surya. We see the light of Chandra and know that we are seeing the reflected light of Surya. This much we know from science. From a spiritual point of view, we have to realize that, just as Chandra reminds us of Surya by reflecting his light, the mind should remind us about the soul. But, alas, the mind is weak. It relies on the sense organs. It needs the eyes to tell it that there is light, being incapable of perceiving light for itself. Therefore, the mind, dwelling upon the light seen by the eyes, forgets that the light of the soul is far greater that the light seen by the eyes. This is where the karakas of darkness, like Ketu, Sani, and even Rahu perhaps, come in. They overcome Surya and Chandra, thus negating the idea that light is what the eye sees. Then in the darkness, the mind can realize that the light of the soul is greater. The mind then perceives the soul, and just as Chandra's reflected light reminds us of Surya, similarly the soul reminds the mind of the Super Soul, the Supreme Being. In this context, Ketu, when conjunct Surya during an eclipse, robs the latter of his pride - light - and makes him realize that, more than light and ego, he, Surya, actually represents the soul. In this context, one could be permitted to interpret "Tamasoma Jyotir Gamaya" could indicate the light of the soul that illuminates the mind when the light that the eye sees is withheld. The light that all the religions refer to concerns not the light that the eye perceives. It concerns the light of the mind. And the mind stands illuminated when the eye perceives darkness, because the mind has to then look inward, not outward. So, let there be darkness - so that the mind, no longer being capable of relying on the eye for direction, seeks to understand the soul, and then slowly seeks refuge in the Super Soul! ~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm<http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.\ htm> Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ~~~~~~~ FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.<http://farechase./> Vedic astrology Personal reading Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Photos. Get Photos a.. Visit your group "jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>" on the web. b.. jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya-@\ groups.com?subject=Un> c.. Terms of Service<>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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