Guest guest Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Dear Balaji, First let me say you're an excellent writer. I'm sure I mentioned this one time when I was reading your chart, do you remember? You have 3rd lord Sun in sign of Grt.Fr. in 10th...3rd governs communication through writing. You also have 4th/5th (kendra & trikona) lords conjunct in 9th house of publishing. I'm sure you could find the post in archives...also the post regarding the dasas/transits at time of your accident. I did have a quick look, but to no avail...not enough time to spare at the moment. But, regardless, I'm sure you'd remember anyway. I had started a commentary but then deleted it as it's really just going over old ground. I'm sure you know as well as I do that there's not a spiritual bone in Rahu's hedonistic body. The real benefits, seen from his insatiable desire, is through the planets associated with him. In your chart, his influence on 11th lord Mars gives you the passion to go after (and achieve) your goals in life...11th governs our hopes & wishes and their fulfilment. Rahu will spur you on like none other. As for the spiritual inclinations during his dasa, note his placement in sign of Jupiter (the planet of religion) whilst his star lord Venus occupies 9th house of religion etc.. Also, if I might offer my opinion on the dictum Rahu Vat Sani; this (IMO) relates directly and specifically to co-lordship. Parashara tells us that during the dasa of Rahu we're to take Aquarius as his own sign...we then, naturally, when considering 9th house, have to consider his function in conjunction with Saturn, so, as the dictum says; Rahu Vat Sani. At the risk of being contraversial, I do have to question B.V. Raman's data for chart #4 (Jesus Christ). Theologians agree that Dec 25th is not actually Christ's birthday...just as the day we celebrate the Queen's birthday (for instance) is not actually her birthday. I also cannot find any strong evidence in that chart that supports the life or (importantly) the death of Christ. One clue I feel is worth looking at is Parashara's statement in Ch.44: 25-31. THIRD HOUSE AND DEATH: O excellent of Brahmins, if the Sun, being with strength, is in the 3rd house from the ascendant, one will obtain his death due to a king (or legal punishments). You might like to look at the chart for Mar 1 0007 (01:21) which, according to Goravani Jyotish gives Capricorn rising with lagnesh Sani (conjunct Rahu) in 9th and Sun (conjunct Ketu) in 3rd (Pisces). Interesting is the conjunction of JU/VE in 4th house; this house is said to govern graves/graveside and, as we know, both his death by crucifixion (3rd house) and resurrection from grave (4th house) are the basic tenets of Christianity. Note also the exchange between 9th/2nd lord in light of his teaching (preaching). According to this chart, he could have been in dasa of RA-SU-JU at time of death/resurrection. I don't know how accurate GJ is at calculating BC charts...perhaps (time permitting) you might like to try on your software and see what you come up with. Of course all this is mere speculation as no one really knows when he was born and I have my doubts if GJ has even calculated this correctly; but look also, in this chart, at the indications of enlightenment: *Moksha lord Sun conjunct Ketu. *12th moksha lord Jupiter (dispositor of Ketu) in 4th (moksha house). *Jupiter and Venus both in nakshatra of Ketu. * Moon, Saturn and Rahu are all in nakshatra of 8th lord Sun. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Balaji Narasimhan" <sherlockbalaji <jyotish-vidya> Monday, December 05, 2005 4:28 PM Re: Wendy ji - Rahu's Advocate Wendy ji, Please read the document when time permits. Regarding the visual - a good friend of mine did it! Rahu rules illusions - and there is an illusion buried in the image! Once you read the full document, you will spot it, I'm sure! :-) ~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Wendy ji, <<<First let me say you're an excellent writer.>>> Yes, you have told me this before! :-) <<<I'm sure you know as well as I do that there's not a spiritual bone in Rahu's hedonistic body.>>> I know that Rahu is NOT religious, but is he 100% irreligious? Doubtful. Of course, he IS quite bad, and this I have mentioned in my document. For example: "It is hard to defend Rahu, who is heretic, irreligious, and perverted." "And finally, this document doesn’t seek to show that black is white by claiming that Rahu is a good graha. He most definitely is not." <<< The real benefits, seen from his insatiable desire, is through the planets associated with him. In your chart, his influence on 11th lord Mars gives you the passion to go after (and achieve) your goals in life...11th governs our hopes & wishes and their fulfilment.>>> I agree with you. I have an insatiable urge to ensure that this is my last birth. Is not this desire too born through Rahu, because of Sani Vad Rahu, and Kumba being Sani's Moolatrikona? In this case, if I get Moksha by God's grace, will not Rahu be said to have played SOME part in helping me to attain liberation? <<<Rahu will spur you on like none other. As for the spiritual inclinations during his dasa, note his placement in sign of Jupiter (the planet of religion) whilst his star lord Venus occupies 9th house of religion etc.>>> In fact, this is one of the things that prompted me to look for "indirect" connections while analyzing the charts for Rahu's Advocate. In my own chart, Rahu and Sani are in 6/8 positions, but Sani is the dispositor of Rahu's dispositor and Rahu's Nakshatra dispositor. Also, Rahu in Dhanur Rasi, as we have discussed before, is called "Kodanda Rahu" and can lead to religion with a twist. <<<At the risk of being contraversial, I do have to question B.V. Raman's data for chart #4 (Jesus Christ).>>> I read in Dan Brown's "Angels and Demons" that Christ was born in March. However, I was determined to stick to only one source, so I went with Shri BV Raman's book. In fact, this is why I didn't include the great saint Madhwacharya - his name is not there in Shri Raman's book. End of the day, Wendy ji, I'm NOT trying to prove that Rahu is good - I'm only trying to show that he is not THAT bad, that's all! ~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ~~~~~~~ ________ DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Wendy ji, <<<My apologies if I offended you at all, it was certainly never my intention.>>> I cannot accept your apology for the simple reason that I never felt offended! :-) You are one of my Jyotish gurus, and it is not right for the Guru to apologize to the sishya. Actually, I have learnt a lot from you and followed you - with some deviations. For example: * Both you and me believe in BPHS - but, I also dabble in SBC a little, without allowing it to affect my BPHS focus. * Both believe that Rahu and Ketu can't cast aspects. However, I believe that they can recieve aspects - after all, if a graha like Sani can affect an empty house by aspecting it, can't they also colour Rahu and Ketu by aspecting them? * Both believe that Rahu is evil - you believe him to be 100% evil, I believe that he is 95% evil, but can be beneficial in 5 % of the cases. In effect, you and me agree on 90% of the issues, right? <<<As for your feet being set on the path of moksha, I would contribute that more to Ketu in lagna whilst his star lord Jupiter occupies 8th. This placement of Ketu does hold the promise of moksha (in this life). Like you, I too have Ketu in lagna, (aspected by 12th moksha lord Jupiter) whilst dispositor of his star lord occupies 8th.... Like you, I too strive for moksha :-)>>> Yes, my Moksha, like yours, will come through Ketu. However, for me, the initial impetus came from Rahu. <<<I do believe that, although there may be many obstacles and setbacks, Rahu, conjunct 12th lord, flames that fire/desire (for moksha) so that, no matter what the obstacle or how many times I might slip and fall, that flame will never go out...the desire will always be there, thanks to Rahu :-)>>> So, Rahu is helping you too! Doesn't that make him a little good? :-) In my case, Rahu is in the star of Sukra, who owns the 12th. So, this will also flame my desire for attaining Moksha! I hope that one day, after we have both thrown away our mortal coils, we can both sit beside God and have an excellent time! :-) My idea of Moksha is simple - anything that takes me towards Him is my friend, and anything that takes me away from Him is my enemy. Small pleasures and pains take us towards Him. Great rise/setbacks can lead us away from Him. So, I pray for some difficulties and some happy moments, so that I can always remember Him. I don't want to become a pauper. Also, I don't want to win a Nobel prize - both I fear because they can draw me away from Him! BTW, I also went through the chart of Christ you gave me. <<<PS: Also, in this chart, 6th lord (domesticated animals) aspects Ascendant lord Saturn in 9th... Ascendant shows the surroundings at birth (is this not so?)... he was born in a stable surrounded by animals.>>> 6th lord Budha is in 6/8 positions with Sani because Budha is in the 2nd and Sani is in the 9th. According to two Romanian astronomers Liviu Mircea and Tiberiu Oproiu, Christ died on Friday, 3rd April, 33 AD. I had written about this earlier - you can check it out at: http://server1.msn.co.in/msncolumn/takeitcool/articles/output.asp?urlid=12 At that time, He was running Surya Dasa - Sukra Bukti - Budha Antar. Surya is in the star of 2nd lord Sani, Sukra occupies Moksha Karaka Ketu's star and is closely conjunct Moksha Stanadipati Guru, while Budha occupies the 2nd house, so this is not completely beyond the realms of the possible. Antar Nathadipati rules 6th [enemies] and 9th [religion], indicating that death was due to religious enemies. Also, Antar Nathadipati is in the star of Guru, who rules 3rd [cause of death] and 12th [secret enemies] and is posited in the 4th house [graves]. Regarding Moksha - Christ Himself has promised liberation to His followers, so I feel a little uncomfortable in looking at matters pertaining to His own Moksha! However, 5th lord Sukra conjunct 12th lord Guru is suggestive - poorva punya leading to liberation, with the current incarnation leading to the fructification of the same. Am I right? ~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ~~~~~~~ ________ DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Dear Balaji, You Wrote: >>Regarding Moksha - Christ Himself has promised liberation to His followers, so I feel a little uncomfortable in looking at matters pertaining to His own Moksha!<< Yes, I agree! Yet every Christmas the question of his chart emerges - obviously due to collective consciousness at this time of year. I had a look at your article and I have a feeling I might have read it last year, would this be correct? >>However, 5th lord Sukra conjunct 12th lord Guru is suggestive - >>poorva punya leading to liberation, with the current incarnation >>leading to the fructification of the same. Am I right?<< Yes, that 4th (moksha) house speaks volumes being occupied by 12th moksha lord Jupiter (dispositor of 8th moksha lord Sun and mokshakaraka Ketu) whilst 4th lord aspects lagna...5th/10th lord Venus in this setting tells us many things. The mutual aspect of Sun and lagnesh Sani (in each others nakshatra) brings alive these statements, "I and my Father are ONE" and "If you know Me you know my Father". Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Balaji Narasimhan" <sherlockbalaji <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:51 PM Re: Wendy ji - Rahu's Advocate Wendy ji, <<<My apologies if I offended you at all, it was certainly never my intention.>>> I cannot accept your apology for the simple reason that I never felt offended! :-) You are one of my Jyotish gurus, and it is not right for the Guru to apologize to the sishya. Actually, I have learnt a lot from you and followed you - with some deviations. For example: * Both you and me believe in BPHS - but, I also dabble in SBC a little, without allowing it to affect my BPHS focus. * Both believe that Rahu and Ketu can't cast aspects. However, I believe that they can recieve aspects - after all, if a graha like Sani can affect an empty house by aspecting it, can't they also colour Rahu and Ketu by aspecting them? * Both believe that Rahu is evil - you believe him to be 100% evil, I believe that he is 95% evil, but can be beneficial in 5 % of the cases. In effect, you and me agree on 90% of the issues, right? <<<As for your feet being set on the path of moksha, I would contribute that more to Ketu in lagna whilst his star lord Jupiter occupies 8th. This placement of Ketu does hold the promise of moksha (in this life). Like you, I too have Ketu in lagna, (aspected by 12th moksha lord Jupiter) whilst dispositor of his star lord occupies 8th.... Like you, I too strive for moksha :-)>>> Yes, my Moksha, like yours, will come through Ketu. However, for me, the initial impetus came from Rahu. <<<I do believe that, although there may be many obstacles and setbacks, Rahu, conjunct 12th lord, flames that fire/desire (for moksha) so that, no matter what the obstacle or how many times I might slip and fall, that flame will never go out...the desire will always be there, thanks to Rahu :-)>>> So, Rahu is helping you too! Doesn't that make him a little good? :-) In my case, Rahu is in the star of Sukra, who owns the 12th. So, this will also flame my desire for attaining Moksha! I hope that one day, after we have both thrown away our mortal coils, we can both sit beside God and have an excellent time! :-) My idea of Moksha is simple - anything that takes me towards Him is my friend, and anything that takes me away from Him is my enemy. Small pleasures and pains take us towards Him. Great rise/setbacks can lead us away from Him. So, I pray for some difficulties and some happy moments, so that I can always remember Him. I don't want to become a pauper. Also, I don't want to win a Nobel prize - both I fear because they can draw me away from Him! BTW, I also went through the chart of Christ you gave me. <<<PS: Also, in this chart, 6th lord (domesticated animals) aspects Ascendant lord Saturn in 9th... Ascendant shows the surroundings at birth (is this not so?)... he was born in a stable surrounded by animals.>>> 6th lord Budha is in 6/8 positions with Sani because Budha is in the 2nd and Sani is in the 9th. According to two Romanian astronomers Liviu Mircea and Tiberiu Oproiu, Christ died on Friday, 3rd April, 33 AD. I had written about this earlier - you can check it out at: http://server1.msn.co.in/msncolumn/takeitcool/articles/output.asp?urlid=12 At that time, He was running Surya Dasa - Sukra Bukti - Budha Antar. Surya is in the star of 2nd lord Sani, Sukra occupies Moksha Karaka Ketu's star and is closely conjunct Moksha Stanadipati Guru, while Budha occupies the 2nd house, so this is not completely beyond the realms of the possible. Antar Nathadipati rules 6th [enemies] and 9th [religion], indicating that death was due to religious enemies. Also, Antar Nathadipati is in the star of Guru, who rules 3rd [cause of death] and 12th [secret enemies] and is posited in the 4th house [graves]. Regarding Moksha - Christ Himself has promised liberation to His followers, so I feel a little uncomfortable in looking at matters pertaining to His own Moksha! However, 5th lord Sukra conjunct 12th lord Guru is suggestive - poorva punya leading to liberation, with the current incarnation leading to the fructification of the same. Am I right? ~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 Wendy ji, <<<I had a look at your article and I have a feeling I might have read it last year, would this be correct?>>> You are right, I wrote it quite some time ago. <<<The mutual aspect of Sun and lagnesh Sani (in each others nakshatra) brings alive these statements, "I and my Father are ONE" and "If you know Me you know my Father".>>> This is interesting! I had never thought of this before! ~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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