Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Dear Uttara, You Wrote: *I was using the Goravani calculations for 365.2425 solar day in my post a few days ago. However, I am not convinced that this is the proper calculation for the chart.* Since the calendar in use throughout the world is the Gregorian calendar (365.2425 days per year), there's no earthly reason to use the 360 day lunar year to calculate the dasas. It simply beggars belief that some people will actually use this...where on earth is a year measured as 360 days? *I am confident that the baby was not born any later than 8:16am and not earleir than 8:10am.* The uncertainty of time is more of a problem than the discrepancy between the different softwares. I too found the difference between GJ and PL off-putting. However, after watching the transits closely over the years, I've come to rely solely on PL. As time doesn't permit me the luxury of rectifying a chart, all I can do is look at the chart using the time you have given me i.e. 08:16 *I guess it also depends if one is using 0* as being firmly in Capricorn with an equal house system vs. the houses starting at the middle of Sag.* As per Vedic system of astrology, the sign which has manifested as a bhava is from 00:00 to 30:00 degrees. The house/bhava encompasses the whole sign! In Western astrology (and KP system) the placidus method of house division is commonly used. However, according to the tenets of Vedic astrology, Janma Kundali (Birth Chart) is based firmly on the whole sign/whole bhava principle....this is an act of creation rather than an intellectual assumption. At the risk of repeating myself, as I've discussed this point many times in the past; we're told that, at the moment of birth the navagrahas manifest (are born/recreated) as a new entity, and the signs of the zodiac manifest (are born/recreated) as the twelve bhavas. This is the cornerstone of Jyotish and the premise from which we declare "Aham Brahmasmi" (I am the Totality, I am the Universe). Because KP (for instance) has adopted the Western placidus system of house division it cannot be truly classified as Vedic astrology. Nor can any other system that deviates from the basic principles. *Ok, picture me at my computer pulling my hair out and screaming AHHHHH!!!!!!!* This comes from trying to marry Jyotish with other systems. Parashara is really quite simple if you follow the basic rules and learn to differentiate between the Parashara and Jaimini methods that have been bunched together (unfortunately) in BPHS...misconceptions and confusion abounds when we attempt to mix and match these systems. However there should be no confusion here if we stick to the basic principles of Parashara. I don't mean to give a lecture every time I come online, but it is frustrating to see so many people still struggling with the basic principles... We can discuss the health issues of your son a little later, if that's okay, as I now have to leave the computer for awhile, unfortunately. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 Dear Wendy,> >Thank you for your clarifications on my recent post. Also, a big thanks on the reaffirmation of the basics. Please see comments below.> >Uttara:*I was using the Goravani calculations for 365.2425 solar day in my post a few days ago. However, I am not convinced that this is the proper calculation for the chart.*> >Wendy:> Since the calendar in use throughout the world is the >Gregorian calendar (365.2425 days per year), there's no >earthly reason to use the 360 day lunar year to calculate the >dasas. > >To clarify any confusion; I was concerned about the software calculations for Dasha timing with a Moon Capricorn at 0* more than using a calculation of 360 solar year. > >Uttara:> *I am confident that the baby was not born any later than> 8:16am and not earlier than 8:10am.* Wendy:>The uncertainty of time is more of a problem than the >discrepancy between the different softwares. > >I am really comfortable using the 8:16am time. My efforts to rectify my son's chart do not sufficiently equal a difference in Dasha timing per his life events or experiences. Nor does changing the time a few minutes alter his Capricorn Moon degree.> >I believe my anxiety was trying to give a detailed explanation in case there was any hesitancy of correct birth time in the future.> >Wendy:>I too found the difference between> GJ and PL off-putting. However, after watching the transits >closely over the years, I've come to rely solely on PL.> >Thank you for this confirmation. After writing my post the other day, I have continued to study my son's chart and have found that part of my frustration was due in part to using the GJ calculation vs. the PL or Jhora. > >Wendy:> As per Vedic system of astrology, the sign which has >manifested as a bhava is from 00:00 to 30:00 degrees. The >house/bhava encompasses the whole sign!> >>at the moment of birth the> navagrahas manifest (are born/recreated) as a new entity, >and the signs of the zodiac manifest (are born/recreated) as >the twelve bhavas. This is the cornerstone of Jyotish and the >premise from which we declare "Aham Brahmasmi" (I am >the Totality, I am the Universe).> >>if you follow the basic rules and> learn to differentiate between the Parashara and Jaimini >methods that have been bunched together (unfortunately) in> BPHS...misconceptions and confusion abounds when we >attempt to mix and match these systems.> >Wendy, Thank you also for this confirmation and the important reminder to eliminate the clutter of confusion by concentrating on one system and not allowing one to be misdirected by too much information, thereby unintentionally, mixing different principles even in the Vedic system.> >Sometimes to, too much detail to cover all the possibilities I may have overlooked or fallen short of creates a problem in itself. I believe my post reflected this with the various options I laid out.> >Also, being ones own astrologer often is very subjective and illusionary, especially under emotional situations and never a good idea. More so, if one is not proficient.> >After reading your post, I am more confident now and happy with the calculation of Moon Capricorn 1* with its current MA Mo dasha. My anxiety level has been quelled.> >You continue to be most helpful and I am appreciative of your efforts and interest :-).> >I hope David is continuing to improve.> >Uttara> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 Dear Wendy, Thank you for your clarifications on my recent post. Also, a big thanks on the reaffirmation of the basics. Please see comments below. Uttara: >*I was using the Goravani calculations for 365.2425 solar day in my >post a few days ago. However, I am not convinced that this is the >proper calculation for the chart.*< Wendy: > Since the calendar in use throughout the world is the Gregorian >calendar (365.2425 days per year), there's no earthly reason to use >the 360 day lunar year to calculate the dasas.< To clarify any confusion; I was concerned about the software calculations for Dasha timing with a Moon Capricorn at 0* more than using a calculation of 360 solar year. Uttara: > *I am confident that the baby was not born any later than> 8:16am >and not earlier than 8:10am.* < Wendy: >The uncertainty of time is more of a problem than the >discrepancy >between the different softwares.< I am really comfortable using the 8:16am time. My efforts to rectify my son's chart do not sufficiently equal a difference in Dasha timing per his life events or experiences. Nor does changing the time a few minutes alter his Capricorn Moon degree. I believe my anxiety was trying to give a detailed explanation in case there was any hesitancy of correct birth time in the future. Wendy: >I too found the difference between GJ and PL off-putting. However, >after watching the transits closely over the years, I've come to >rely solely on PL.< Thank you for this confirmation. After writing my post the other day, I have continued to study my son's chart and have found that part of my frustration was due in part to using the GJ calculation vs. the PL or Jhora. Wendy: > As per Vedic system of astrology, the sign which has manifested as >a bhava is from 00:00 to 30:00 degrees. The house/bhava encompasses >the whole sign! >at the moment of birth the navagrahas manifest (are born/recreated) >as a new entity, and the signs of the zodiac manifest (are >born/recreated) as the twelve bhavas. This is the cornerstone of >Jyotish and the premise from which we declare "Aham Brahmasmi" (I am >the Totality, I am the Universe).< >if you follow the basic rules and learn to differentiate between >the Parashara and Jaimini methods that have been bunched together >(unfortunately) in> BPHS...misconceptions and confusion abounds when >we attempt to mix and match these systems.< Wendy, Thank you also for this confirmation and the important reminder to eliminate the clutter of confusion by concentrating on one system and not allowing one to be misdirected by too much information, thereby unintentionally, mixing different principles even in the Vedic system. Sometimes to, too much detail to cover all the possibilities I may have overlooked or fallen short of creates a problem in itself. I believe my post reflected this with the various options I laid out. Also, being ones own astrologer often is very subjective and illusionary, especially under emotional situations and never a good idea. More so, if one is not proficient. After reading your post, I am more confident now and happy with the calculation of Moon Capricorn 1* with its current MA Mo dasha. My anxiety level has been quelled. You continue to be most helpful and I am appreciative of your efforts and interest :-). I hope David is continuing to improve. Uttara --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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