Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Hi All, >From 0.00-3.20 Scorpio, nakshatra is Vishaka: Ketu in this division, makes the nativelack confidence, occassional mental depression and chronic dysentry. But Ketu is exalted - Parashara said so ! Regards, Wen jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...> wrote: > > If Ketu occupies Anuradha nakshatra in Scorpio (3.20-16.40), star > lord is Saturn...think about this! From 0.00-3.20 Scorpio, nakshatra > is Vishaka (star lord Jupiter); From 0.00-3.20 Scorpio, nakshatra > is Vishaka> > For all grahas the degree of exaltation has relevance. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "walkingmisswendy" <walkingmisswendy> > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:24 AM > Re: The question of my marriage > > > Hi All, > The classics also note that if Ketu is natally positioned between > 216.40 and 220.00 ( which is basically the ANURADHA nakshatra)in > scorpio, the native will have a lot of problems with property and > litigation and loss thereof. The native will be in the company of > low > class women and have a lot of troubles from enemies. > Scorpio is ruled by Mars and there can be problems related to > property and such because of Ketu, no matter where Mars resides. > So when this native would be suffering these significations, could > the astrologer look the native in the eye and say "Your Ketu is > exalted, Parashara said so" ? > Regards, > Wen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Dear Krishnan, You Wrote: //Also mars and ketu are fiery planets// Where did you learn this?? According to Parashara, Ketu, like Rahu, is windy in temperament. Unlike Mars and Sun who are bilious (fiery). He states clearly in Ch3. 30 of BPHS: NODES - DESCRIPTION OF RAHU AND KETU "Rahu has smoky appearance with a blue-mix physique. He resides in forests and is horrible. He is windy in temperament and is intelligent. Ketu is akin to Rahu." http://jyotishvidya.com/ch3.htm Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "vattem krishnan" <bursar_99 <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:27 AM Re: Re: The question of my marriage Hell Wen, Really you have made a good question with ketu in 8th,may signify exaltation due to its position between 3.21 to 13.20 degrees of anuradha.Then which bhava does it signify and how placement of mars in D/too before astrologer ventures to speak out. I agree with you if in4/10 axis otherwise no.Also mars and ketu are fiery planets and in watery sign of scorpio in the location of nakshtra lord saturn,the effort increases,to achieve even through propitation desired will also be seen.The native therefore along with low class association and other pleasures looks to religous faith to achieve his/her own wishes krishnan walkingmisswendy <walkingmisswendy wrote: Hi All, The classics also note that if Ketu is natally positioned between 216.40 and 220.00 ( which is basically the ANURADHA nakshatra)in scorpio, the native will have a lot of problems with property and litigation and loss thereof. The native will be in the company of low class women and have a lot of troubles from enemies. Scorpio is ruled by Mars and there can be problems related to property and such because of Ketu, no matter where Mars resides. So when this native would be suffering these significations, could the astrologer look the native in the eye and say "Your Ketu is exalted, Parashara said so" ? Regards, Wen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Namaste If an astrologer said to the native "your Ketu is exalted" that wouldn't be very helpful! If they knew what that meant in terms of their life or their query then they wouldn't be seeking an astologer! I do see where Parashara says that an exalted planet will give "fully good results", however in this chapter (3) Parashara only gives exaltation signs for the 7 planets and not Rahu & Ketu. Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give fully good results." Usually there are more exceptions to rules than there are rules Thanks for any help, Sean jyotish-vidya, "walkingmisswendy" <walkingmisswendy> wrote: > > Hi All, > The classics also note that if Ketu is natally positioned between > 216.40 and 220.00 ( which is basically the ANURADHA nakshatra)in > scorpio, the native will have a lot of problems with property and > litigation and loss thereof. The native will be in the company of low > class women and have a lot of troubles from enemies. > Scorpio is ruled by Mars and there can be problems related to > property and such because of Ketu, no matter where Mars resides. > So when this native would be suffering these significations, could > the astrologer look the native in the eye and say "Your Ketu is > exalted, Parashara said so" ? > Regards, > Wen > > > > jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Jiger, > > > > You Wrote: > > //deblited ra ke axis in 1 7 again is a great yoga for > > spirituality// > > > > Perhaps this is a typing error on your part? As we know, Parashara > > gives the signs of debilitation for Rahu and Ketu (respectively) as > > Scorpio and Taurus. We also know that there is some disagreement > > amongst the sages regarding this...which emphasises (once again) > the > > need to adhere to one teaching in order to avoid confusion. For the > > benefit of all I give the signs of exaltation, debilitation etc., > > according to Parashara: > > > > RAHU: > > Exalted = Taurus > > Debilitated = Scorpio > > Moolatrikona = Gemini > > Own Sign = Aquarius > > > > KETU: > > Exalted = Scorpio > > Debilitated = Taurus > > Moolatrikona = Sagittarius > > Own Sign = Scorpio > > > > Even the lesser used Upagrahas have their signs of exaltation etc > > (according to some sages). However these seem not to be specified > by > > Parashara himself. In the version I have, R. Santhanam (in his > > notes) refers to Keeranura Nataraj's Jatakalankaram. > > > > //with time on private mail I will give you bunch of short cuts > of > > nadi to use// > > > > If you have knowledge to share it would be good to share it with > > everyone, Jiger, don't you think? This is why the group is > here...to > > share freely for the benefit of all. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ______________________________ > > > > - > > "jiger shah" <jigershah@m...> > > <jyotish-vidya> > > Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:00 PM > > Re: The question of my marriage > > > > > > balaji with 32 complete soon > > > > ur astrology will get better for next 9 years > > > > and jup in 8 is great combination for a great astrologer aspected > > by moon and 2nd house as pected by 9th lord > > > > with time on private mail I will give you bunch of short cuts of > > nadi to use > > > > send me a blank email at > > jigershah@m...<jigershah@m...> > > > > deblited ra ke axis in 1 7 again is a great yoga for spirituality > > > > parashar says jup in 6 7 8 will give native highest place > after > > death > > > > remember now ve and sa are in parivartaan if they do the job > > for each other > > > > for marriage is a great possobility > > > > me sa dasha bye for now > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Dear Sean, You Wrote: //Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give fully good results."// Parashara gives the exaltation, debilitation (etc) of the nodes in Ch.47 (Vol 2): "34-: In order to clarify the effects of the Dasha of Rahu I shall first mention the exaltation and debilitation Rashis of Rahu and Ketu. The exaltation Rashi of Rahu is Vrishabh. The exaltation Rashi of Ketu is Vrischik. The Multrikonas of Rahu and Ketu are Mithun and Dhanu. The own Rashis of Rahu and Ketu are Kumbh and Vrischik. (Some sages have expressed the view, that Kanya is the own Rashi of Rahu and Meen is the own Rashi of Ketu).... etc, etc.." In regards to Ketu he says: "72-77. If Ketu is in a Kendr, a Trikon, or in Labh, in a benefic Rashi, in his exaltation, or in his own Rashi, there will be during his Dasha cordial relations with the king, desired headship of a country, or village, comforts of conveyances, happiness from children, gain from foreign countries, happiness from wife and acquisition of cattle. If Ketu is in Sahaj, Ari, or Labh, there will be in his Dasha acquisition of a kingdom, good relations with friends and opportunities for the acquisition of elephants. At the commencement of the Ketu Dasha there will be Raj Yog. During the middle portion of the Dasha there will be possibilities of fearfulness and in the last part there will be sufferings from ailments and journeys to distant places. If Ketu is in Dhan, Randhr, or Vyaya, or receives a Drishti from a malefic, there will be imprisonment, destruction of kinsmen and residential premises and anxieties, company of menials and diseases." In all of these GUIDELINES given by the sage we have to exercise our own common sense...this is also instructed by Parashara :-)) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:17 AM Re: The question of my marriage Namaste If an astrologer said to the native "your Ketu is exalted" that wouldn't be very helpful! If they knew what that meant in terms of their life or their query then they wouldn't be seeking an astologer! I do see where Parashara says that an exalted planet will give "fully good results", however in this chapter (3) Parashara only gives exaltation signs for the 7 planets and not Rahu & Ketu. Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give fully good results." Usually there are more exceptions to rules than there are rules Thanks for any help, Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Thank you Fraser (wen??), A thorn by any name is still a thorn, is this not so. You can under as many names as you wish I will still recognise you - immediately! Now, instead of trying to score points, let's try to look at this intelligently... If you can put aside your overwhelming need to get under my skin and take a look at the following charts (both with Ketu in Scorpio) we might be able to actually apply the dictums of the sages in a logical fashion. Deepak Chopra Oct 22 1946 (15:51) New Delhi, India Lagna: Aquarius 26°29'45" Ketu: Scorpio 19°31'01" _________________________ David Gault Oct 29 1965 (10:01) Warrnambool, Australia Lagna: Sagittarius 23°59'21" Ketu: Scorpio 11°32'42" Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "walkingmisswendy" <walkingmisswendy <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:41 AM Re: The question of my marriage Hi All, >From 0.00-3.20 Scorpio, nakshatra is Vishaka: Ketu in this division, makes the nativelack confidence, occassional mental depression and chronic dysentry. But Ketu is exalted - Parashara said so ! Regards, Wen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 O Wendy, I have cast Deepak's chart and am amazed to find that the only back- up that ketu has got is it's dispositor Mars in 9th house. Now, if you were to look at my chart and check out ketu and it's dispositor, you would have to agree that I would have better significations of Ketu than Deepak. Point being - metaphysics used as a business (deepak) is due to the fact that he has a supporting chart. In my case, I would not peddle theosophy in the name of divinity. Significations of Ketu EXALTED - in deepak's chart ?? Show me ! Regards, Fraser(the rose) jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...> wrote: > > Thank you Fraser (wen??), > > A thorn by any name is still a thorn, is this not so. You can > under as many names as you wish I will still recognise > you - immediately! > > Now, instead of trying to score points, let's try to look at this > intelligently... If you can put aside your overwhelming need to get > under my skin and take a look at the following charts (both with > Ketu in Scorpio) we might be able to actually apply the dictums of > the sages in a logical fashion. > > Deepak Chopra > Oct 22 1946 (15:51) > New Delhi, India > Lagna: Aquarius 26°29'45" > Ketu: Scorpio 19°31'01" > _________________________ > > David Gault > Oct 29 1965 (10:01) > Warrnambool, Australia > Lagna: Sagittarius 23°59'21" > Ketu: Scorpio 11°32'42" > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "walkingmisswendy" <walkingmisswendy> > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:41 AM > Re: The question of my marriage > > > Hi All, > From 0.00-3.20 Scorpio, nakshatra is Vishaka: > Ketu in this division, makes the nativelack confidence, occassional > mental depression and chronic dysentry. > But Ketu is exalted - Parashara said so ! > Regards, > Wen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Really Fraser, I'm quickly loosing patience with you :-( Try to read the chart objectively if you can...without prejudice! Deepak has Ketu in 10th (conjunct 9th lord) whilst both his dispositor Mars and star lord Mercury are conjunct Jupiter and Sun in 9th - you should be aware that Deepak was also a successful doctor before he became a teacher and author of holistic medicine...can you see this in his chart?? [in 1985, Deepak Chopra left a successful and highly regarded position as chief of staff at The New England Memorial Hospital in Stoneham, Massachusetts, in order to dedicate his life to expanding the impact and effectiveness of conventional medicine. Today he is nationally recognized in the holistic health field.] Put your prejudice in your pocket and read the chart properly, Fraser! Most certainly, true to the nature of Ketu, his career has revolved around moksha (holistic medicine etc). You may agree or disagree with the fact that he has made money from this...note 2nd lord Jupiter in 9th conjunct Ketu's dispositor(Mars) and star lord(Mercury), but the fact remains that he has been very successful - Ketu here has not harmed his career. Importantly also, in terms of career, is exalted Rahu in 4th with his dispositor Venus (conjunct Ketu) in 10th etc, etc.. Think about this and try to give an unbiased reading if you can. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "walkingmisswendy" <walkingmisswendy <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:16 PM Re: The question of my marriage O Wendy, I have cast Deepak's chart and am amazed to find that the only back- up that ketu has got is it's dispositor Mars in 9th house. Now, if you were to look at my chart and check out ketu and it's dispositor, you would have to agree that I would have better significations of Ketu than Deepak. Point being - metaphysics used as a business (deepak) is due to the fact that he has a supporting chart. In my case, I would not peddle theosophy in the name of divinity. Significations of Ketu EXALTED - in deepak's chart ?? Show me ! Regards, Fraser(the rose) jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...> wrote: > > Thank you Fraser (wen??), > > A thorn by any name is still a thorn, is this not so. You can > under as many names as you wish I will still recognise > you - immediately! > > Now, instead of trying to score points, let's try to look at this > intelligently... If you can put aside your overwhelming need to > get > under my skin and take a look at the following charts (both with > Ketu in Scorpio) we might be able to actually apply the dictums of > the sages in a logical fashion. > > Deepak Chopra > Oct 22 1946 (15:51) > New Delhi, India > Lagna: Aquarius 26°29'45" > Ketu: Scorpio 19°31'01" > _________________________ > > David Gault > Oct 29 1965 (10:01) > Warrnambool, Australia > Lagna: Sagittarius 23°59'21" > Ketu: Scorpio 11°32'42" > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Wendy, you have just said what I said-- good career !! BUT the true significations of what really Ketu stands for: • The divinity of Ketu • The non-commercial spiritual attainment and • The transcedental conciousness are not "noteworthy" in Deepak's chart, as one might expect to see, as a case study chart to showcase the exaltation of Ketu in Scorpio. and why would I have a 'biased' view of this? If you make a valid point, I will be the first to accept (this may surprise you)but its true, and I have a very healthy attitude towards my betters. (this would amaze you) Let us begin, with the basics. What do YOU say 'constitutes' exaltation. Teach me, please ! Regards, Fraser jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...> wrote: > > Really Fraser, I'm quickly loosing patience with you :-( > > Try to read the chart objectively if you can...without prejudice! > Deepak has Ketu in 10th (conjunct 9th lord) whilst both his > dispositor Mars and star lord Mercury are conjunct Jupiter and Sun > in 9th - you should be aware that Deepak was also a successful > doctor before he became a teacher and author of holistic > medicine...can you see this in his chart?? > > [in 1985, Deepak Chopra left a successful and highly regarded > position as chief of staff at The New England Memorial Hospital in > Stoneham, Massachusetts, in order to dedicate his life to expanding > the impact and effectiveness of conventional medicine. Today he is > nationally recognized in the holistic health field.] > > Put your prejudice in your pocket and read the chart properly, > Fraser! Most certainly, true to the nature of Ketu, his career has > revolved around moksha (holistic medicine etc). You may agree or > disagree with the fact that he has made money from this...note 2nd > lord Jupiter in 9th conjunct Ketu's dispositor(Mars) and star > lord(Mercury), but the fact remains that he has been very > successful - Ketu here has not harmed his career. > > Importantly also, in terms of career, is exalted Rahu in 4th with > his dispositor Venus (conjunct Ketu) in 10th etc, etc.. Think about > this and try to give an unbiased reading if you can. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "walkingmisswendy" <walkingmisswendy> > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:16 PM > Re: The question of my marriage > > > O Wendy, > I have cast Deepak's chart and am amazed to find that the only back- > up that ketu has got is it's dispositor Mars in 9th house. Now, if > you were to look at my chart and check out ketu and it's dispositor, > you would have to agree that I would have better significations of > Ketu than Deepak. Point being - metaphysics used as a business > (deepak) is due to the fact that he has a supporting chart. In my > case, I would not peddle theosophy in the name of divinity. > Significations of Ketu EXALTED - in deepak's chart ?? > Show me ! > Regards, > Fraser(the rose) > > jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...> > wrote: > > > > Thank you Fraser (wen??), > > > > A thorn by any name is still a thorn, is this not so. You can > > under as many names as you wish I will still recognise > > you - immediately! > > > > Now, instead of trying to score points, let's try to look at this > > intelligently... If you can put aside your overwhelming need to > > get > > under my skin and take a look at the following charts (both with > > Ketu in Scorpio) we might be able to actually apply the dictums of > > the sages in a logical fashion. > > > > Deepak Chopra > > Oct 22 1946 (15:51) > > New Delhi, India > > Lagna: Aquarius 26°29'45" > > Ketu: Scorpio 19°31'01" > > _________________________ > > > > David Gault > > Oct 29 1965 (10:01) > > Warrnambool, Australia > > Lagna: Sagittarius 23°59'21" > > Ketu: Scorpio 11°32'42" > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ______________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Fraser, Why would you assume that the true(?) significations of Ketu are not noteworthy(?) in Deepak's chart... Give me your reasons. How can you possibly know the level of divinity(?) as it's manifested in this chart? Non-commercial spiritual attainment?? Perhaps you're confusing success in career with attachment to career. It is possible to be non-attached to success...or are you one who believes it's only possible to be non-attached to poverty. To see both success and failure as the impostors they are is the mark of true detachment, is it not? If fate hands you success, you accept it; if fate hands you poverty, you accept it - this is detachment! Again, how can you possibly know the quality of transcendental consciousness as it's manifested in this chart. I'll speak more on this chart when I have a bit more time to spare than I do at the moment. //and I have a very healthy attitude towards my betters. (this would amaze you)// Yes, this would amaze me, Fraser! Although I do not consider myself a better(?) to anyone, I do find your new ID (walkingmisswendy) totally disrespectful...and that was exactly what you intended! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "walkingmisswendy" <walkingmisswendy <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:49 PM Re: The question of my marriage Wendy, you have just said what I said-- good career !! BUT the true significations of what really Ketu stands for: .. The divinity of Ketu .. The non-commercial spiritual attainment and .. The transcedental conciousness are not "noteworthy" in Deepak's chart, as one might expect to see, as a case study chart to showcase the exaltation of Ketu in Scorpio. and why would I have a 'biased' view of this? If you make a valid point, I will be the first to accept (this may surprise you)but its true, and I have a very healthy attitude towards my betters. (this would amaze you) Let us begin, with the basics. What do YOU say 'constitutes' exaltation. Teach me, please ! Regards, Fraser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Dear Wendy, Thank you very much! That was very helpful - I searched for awhile looking for that info. Take it easy, Sean jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...> wrote: > > Dear Sean, > > You Wrote: > //Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara > describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where > Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give > fully good results."// > > Parashara gives the exaltation, debilitation (etc) of the nodes in > Ch.47 (Vol 2): > > "34-: In order to clarify the effects of the Dasha of Rahu I shall > first mention the exaltation and debilitation Rashis of Rahu and > Ketu. The exaltation Rashi of Rahu is Vrishabh. The exaltation Rashi > of Ketu is Vrischik. The Multrikonas of Rahu and Ketu are Mithun and > Dhanu. The own Rashis of Rahu and Ketu are Kumbh and Vrischik. (Some > sages have expressed the view, that Kanya is the own Rashi of Rahu > and Meen is the own Rashi of Ketu).... etc, etc.." > > In regards to Ketu he says: > "72-77. If Ketu is in a Kendr, a Trikon, or in Labh, in a benefic > Rashi, in his exaltation, or in his own Rashi, there will be during > his Dasha cordial relations with the king, desired headship of a > country, or village, comforts of conveyances, happiness from > children, gain from foreign countries, happiness from wife and > acquisition of cattle. If Ketu is in Sahaj, Ari, or Labh, there will > be in his Dasha acquisition of a kingdom, good relations with > friends and opportunities for the acquisition of elephants. At the > commencement of the Ketu Dasha there will be Raj Yog. During the > middle portion of the Dasha there will be possibilities of > fearfulness and in the last part there will be sufferings from > ailments and journeys to distant places. If Ketu is in Dhan, Randhr, > or Vyaya, or receives a Drishti from a malefic, there will be > imprisonment, destruction of kinsmen and residential premises and > anxieties, company of menials and diseases." > > In all of these GUIDELINES given by the sage we have to exercise our > own common sense...this is also instructed by Parashara :-)) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > > - > "Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean> > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:17 AM > Re: The question of my marriage > > > Namaste > > If an astrologer said to the native "your Ketu is exalted" that > wouldn't be very helpful! If they knew what that meant in terms of > their life or their query then they wouldn't be seeking an > astologer! > > I do see where Parashara says that an exalted planet will give > "fully > good results", however in this chapter (3) Parashara only gives > exaltation signs for the 7 planets and not Rahu & Ketu. > > Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara > describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where > Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give > fully good results." > > Usually there are more exceptions to rules than there are rules > > Thanks for any help, > Sean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Dear Mrs Wendy, More we structure about these nodes, more we feel them as shadow planets.No doubt seers have mentioned in various contexts in various ways.Like "Sanivada Rahu and Kujavada Ketu" is also a quote ancient script.we also know that where ever they get associated(PAC) they tend behave like those planets.The story of demons fighiting for nectar have always all elements imbibed in them.Infact the story of distribution of various houses to the planets and the influence of 12 houses is a well known tale in jyotish. i have no hesitation to accept it as windy too.But Ketu acts like mars is also a known fact.In my one of my mails I had also doubt whether sun is malefic and so billious. one thing is certain mars,Rahu and ketu can not be considered as satwic.ofcourse in my own practical experience,ketu influenced are no doubt opt for religious beliefs and faiths .But seen them to get irritated quite often.Rahu ofcourse smoky,dull etc.ketu brown(?) and enrgitic and analytical. iam sure we are only revisiting about chayagrahas .Very recently i read rahu causes microbes and ketu virus in the recent Astrological magazine of late b.v.raman. krishnan Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Krishnan, You Wrote: //Also mars and ketu are fiery planets// Where did you learn this?? According to Parashara, Ketu, like Rahu, is windy in temperament. Unlike Mars and Sun who are bilious (fiery). He states clearly in Ch3. 30 of BPHS: NODES - DESCRIPTION OF RAHU AND KETU "Rahu has smoky appearance with a blue-mix physique. He resides in forests and is horrible. He is windy in temperament and is intelligent. Ketu is akin to Rahu." http://jyotishvidya.com/ch3.htm Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "vattem krishnan" <bursar_99 <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:27 AM Re: Re: The question of my marriage Hell Wen, Really you have made a good question with ketu in 8th,may signify exaltation due to its position between 3.21 to 13.20 degrees of anuradha.Then which bhava does it signify and how placement of mars in D/too before astrologer ventures to speak out. I agree with you if in4/10 axis otherwise no.Also mars and ketu are fiery planets and in watery sign of scorpio in the location of nakshtra lord saturn,the effort increases,to achieve even through propitation desired will also be seen.The native therefore along with low class association and other pleasures looks to religous faith to achieve his/her own wishes krishnan walkingmisswendy <walkingmisswendy wrote: Hi All, The classics also note that if Ketu is natally positioned between 216.40 and 220.00 ( which is basically the ANURADHA nakshatra)in scorpio, the native will have a lot of problems with property and litigation and loss thereof. The native will be in the company of low class women and have a lot of troubles from enemies. Scorpio is ruled by Mars and there can be problems related to property and such because of Ketu, no matter where Mars resides. So when this native would be suffering these significations, could the astrologer look the native in the eye and say "Your Ketu is exalted, Parashara said so" ? Regards, Wen Astrology chart Vedic astrology Personal reading Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 jyotish-vidya, "Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean> wrote: > > Dear Wendy, > > Thank you very much! That was very helpful - I searched for awhile > looking for that info. > > Take it easy, > Sean > > jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sean, > > > > You Wrote: > > //Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara > > describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where > > Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give > > fully good results."// > > > > Parashara gives the exaltation, debilitation (etc) of the nodes in > > Ch.47 (Vol 2): > > > > "34-: In order to clarify the effects of the Dasha of Rahu I shall > > first mention the exaltation and debilitation Rashis of Rahu and > > Ketu. The exaltation Rashi of Rahu is Vrishabh. The exaltation > Rashi > > of Ketu is Vrischik. The Multrikonas of Rahu and Ketu are Mithun > and > > Dhanu. The own Rashis of Rahu and Ketu are Kumbh and Vrischik. > (Some > > sages have expressed the view, that Kanya is the own Rashi of Rahu > > and Meen is the own Rashi of Ketu).... etc, etc.." > > <snip> I wonder why Parashara stated the exaltation signs for the other planets in chapter 3, and then waited until chapter 47 to state the exaltation signs of Rahu and Ketu. Even then he only states them in passing, "to clarify the effects of the Dasha". Most of BPHS seems quite well organised. Barney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Wendy, OK that's enough!! The 'other' purpose of this post is to see for myself, if you allow it to be put up on the forum. I will first address your hysterics and then impart knowledge for whoever's benefit. //How can you possibly know the level of divinity(?) as it's manifested in this chart?// I have seen Deepak on TV on numerous occasions, and heard the man talk. Seen the man's condescending, supercilious, patronising attitude to the rest of the panel. His almost insulting ways and tone to a catholic priest. His attitude during the war, when he spoke of love conquering all. He spoke with that 'holier than thou' attitude. I can go on about other and much 'authenticated' stuff, but I do not want this to be on this forum, and it does not matter what you think. //It is possible to be non-attached to success...or are you one who believes it's only possible to be non-attached to poverty.// If you actually believe, that, that is what I suggested, then I have nothing to say on that point at all. If you knew my background or if you knew basic astrology, you would know better, having access to my birth chart. But, never mind, I understand...... //Yes, this would amaze me, Fraser! Although I do not consider myself a better(?) to anyone, I do find your new ID walkingmisswendy) totally disrespectful...and that was exactly what you intended!// The name I chose, was malicious. I take full reponsibility to having an intent that was far from 'pure'. I do see that it was in bad taste, to say the least. It was a nasty temptation that I gave in to. It was wrong. It is despicable. It carried with it, a twisted sense of humour. It was the work of the lesser man in me. If you have read so far and are waiting for that word, here it is: SORRY !!. Now Wendy, what did we learn here? GRACE. Yes, Grace. I have the backbone to own up and admit, and receive, that rap on the wrist. If only, you would take a lesson from me and stop getting hyper at every turn. ALSO, -this I never thought, I would be forced to bring up, but I find it compelling now. In the last few days I have received more than 9 (yes more than 9 -its not a typo)private emails, from 'regulars' on this forum. If they are reading this, they know who they are. The contents of those emails is negative, and its not directed towards me. The last time I asked you if you wanted me to leave and you blocked me. I don't understand. Ask me to leave openly on the forum and I will leave. It's simple. No matter what you say and think, I do not have anything against you. I do not send out malicious private emails. Thats not me. I prefer to be outspoken and honest. Even after reading my birth chart, you don't know me at all. I will be copy-pasting this post to all those who have mailed me privately, lest you delete it before the world sets eyes on it. I am sure a lot of them are still waiting for your definition of EXALTATION. Have a nice day, Wendy. Regards, Fraser jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...> wrote: > > Fraser, > > Why would you assume that the true(?) significations of Ketu are not > noteworthy(?) in Deepak's chart... Give me your reasons. > > How can you possibly know the level of divinity(?) as it's > manifested in this chart? > > Non-commercial spiritual attainment?? Perhaps you're confusing > success in career with attachment to career. It is possible to be > non-attached to success...or are you one who believes it's only > possible to be non-attached to poverty. To see both success and > failure as the impostors they are is the mark of true detachment, is > it not? If fate hands you success, you accept it; if fate hands you > poverty, you accept it - this is detachment! > > Again, how can you possibly know the quality of transcendental > consciousness as it's manifested in this chart. > > I'll speak more on this chart when I have a bit more time to spare > than I do at the moment. > > //and I have a very healthy attitude towards my betters. (this would > amaze you)// > > Yes, this would amaze me, Fraser! Although I do not consider myself > a better(?) to anyone, I do find your new ID (walkingmisswendy) > totally disrespectful...and that was exactly what you intended! > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "walkingmisswendy" <walkingmisswendy> > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:49 PM > Re: The question of my marriage > > > Wendy, > you have just said what I said-- > good career !! > BUT the true significations of what really Ketu stands for: > > . The divinity of Ketu > . The non-commercial spiritual attainment and > . The transcedental conciousness > > are not "noteworthy" in Deepak's chart, > as one might expect to see, as a > case study chart to showcase the exaltation of Ketu in Scorpio. > and why would I have a 'biased' view of this? > If you make a valid point, I will be the first to accept (this may > surprise you)but its true, and I have a very healthy attitude > towards > my betters. (this would amaze you) > Let us begin, with the basics. What do YOU say 'constitutes' > exaltation. Teach me, please ! > Regards, > Fraser > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Dear Mrs Wendy, This is how: "In all of these GUIDELINES given by the sage we have to exercise our own common sense...this is also instructed by Parashara )" You have a very method of citing the references and is an indication of knpwledge. Thanx we are fully benifited by your advice as always regards krishnan Sean Patrick Kelly <toosean wrote: Dear Wendy, Thank you very much! That was very helpful - I searched for awhile looking for that info. Take it easy, Sean jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...> wrote: > > Dear Sean, > > You Wrote: > //Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara > describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where > Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give > fully good results."// > > Parashara gives the exaltation, debilitation (etc) of the nodes in > Ch.47 (Vol 2): > > "34-: In order to clarify the effects of the Dasha of Rahu I shall > first mention the exaltation and debilitation Rashis of Rahu and > Ketu. The exaltation Rashi of Rahu is Vrishabh. The exaltation Rashi > of Ketu is Vrischik. The Multrikonas of Rahu and Ketu are Mithun and > Dhanu. The own Rashis of Rahu and Ketu are Kumbh and Vrischik. (Some > sages have expressed the view, that Kanya is the own Rashi of Rahu > and Meen is the own Rashi of Ketu).... etc, etc.." > > In regards to Ketu he says: > "72-77. If Ketu is in a Kendr, a Trikon, or in Labh, in a benefic > Rashi, in his exaltation, or in his own Rashi, there will be during > his Dasha cordial relations with the king, desired headship of a > country, or village, comforts of conveyances, happiness from > children, gain from foreign countries, happiness from wife and > acquisition of cattle. If Ketu is in Sahaj, Ari, or Labh, there will > be in his Dasha acquisition of a kingdom, good relations with > friends and opportunities for the acquisition of elephants. At the > commencement of the Ketu Dasha there will be Raj Yog. During the > middle portion of the Dasha there will be possibilities of > fearfulness and in the last part there will be sufferings from > ailments and journeys to distant places. If Ketu is in Dhan, Randhr, > or Vyaya, or receives a Drishti from a malefic, there will be > imprisonment, destruction of kinsmen and residential premises and > anxieties, company of menials and diseases." > > In all of these GUIDELINES given by the sage we have to exercise our > own common sense...this is also instructed by Parashara :-)) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > > - > "Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean> > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:17 AM > Re: The question of my marriage > > > Namaste > > If an astrologer said to the native "your Ketu is exalted" that > wouldn't be very helpful! If they knew what that meant in terms of > their life or their query then they wouldn't be seeking an > astologer! > > I do see where Parashara says that an exalted planet will give > "fully > good results", however in this chapter (3) Parashara only gives > exaltation signs for the 7 planets and not Rahu & Ketu. > > Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara > describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where > Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give > fully good results." > > Usually there are more exceptions to rules than there are rules > > Thanks for any help, > Sean > Astrology chart Vedic astrology Personal reading Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Dear Krishnan, You Wrote: //This is how: "In all of these GUIDELINES given by the sage we have to exercise our own common sense...this is also instructed by Parashara )" You have a very method of citing the references and is an indication of knpwledge. Thanx we are fully benifited by your advice as always.// It's good to know my efforts have not been (completely) in vain :-) I've been busy with computer maintenance for most of the day and, thanks to the advice of Rui, I may be on top of my problems at last...fingers crossed! With any luck at all I can catch up with mails soon. PS: Rui, so far Norton has found and fixed 295 windows registry errors and 67 shortcut errors (amongst other things)...my poor computer was very sick! Thank you again for your advice - much appreciated :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.