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Hi All,

>From 0.00-3.20 Scorpio, nakshatra is Vishaka:

Ketu in this division, makes the nativelack confidence, occassional

mental depression and chronic dysentry.

But Ketu is exalted - Parashara said so !

Regards,

Wen

 

 

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...>

wrote:

>

> If Ketu occupies Anuradha nakshatra in Scorpio (3.20-16.40), star

> lord is Saturn...think about this! From 0.00-3.20 Scorpio,

nakshatra

> is Vishaka (star lord Jupiter); From 0.00-3.20 Scorpio, nakshatra

> is Vishaka>

> For all grahas the degree of exaltation has relevance.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "walkingmisswendy" <walkingmisswendy>

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:24 AM

> Re: The question of my marriage

>

>

> Hi All,

> The classics also note that if Ketu is natally positioned between

> 216.40 and 220.00 ( which is basically the ANURADHA nakshatra)in

> scorpio, the native will have a lot of problems with property and

> litigation and loss thereof. The native will be in the company of

> low

> class women and have a lot of troubles from enemies.

> Scorpio is ruled by Mars and there can be problems related to

> property and such because of Ketu, no matter where Mars resides.

> So when this native would be suffering these significations, could

> the astrologer look the native in the eye and say "Your Ketu is

> exalted, Parashara said so" ?

> Regards,

> Wen

>

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Dear Krishnan,

 

You Wrote:

//Also mars and ketu are fiery planets//

 

Where did you learn this??

 

According to Parashara, Ketu, like Rahu, is windy in temperament.

Unlike Mars and Sun who are bilious (fiery). He states clearly in

Ch3. 30 of BPHS:

 

NODES - DESCRIPTION OF RAHU AND KETU

"Rahu has smoky appearance with a blue-mix physique. He resides in

forests and is horrible. He is windy in temperament and is

intelligent. Ketu is akin to Rahu."

http://jyotishvidya.com/ch3.htm

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"vattem krishnan" <bursar_99

<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:27 AM

Re: Re: The question of my marriage

 

 

Hell Wen,

Really you have made a good question with ketu in 8th,may signify

exaltation due to its position between 3.21 to 13.20 degrees of

anuradha.Then which bhava does it signify and how placement of mars

in D/too before astrologer ventures to speak out.

I agree with you if in4/10 axis otherwise no.Also mars and ketu

are fiery planets and in watery sign of scorpio in the location of

nakshtra lord saturn,the effort increases,to achieve even through

propitation desired will also be seen.The native therefore along

with low class association and other pleasures looks to religous

faith to achieve his/her own wishes

krishnan

 

walkingmisswendy <walkingmisswendy wrote:

Hi All,

The classics also note that if Ketu is natally positioned between

216.40 and 220.00 ( which is basically the ANURADHA nakshatra)in

scorpio, the native will have a lot of problems with property and

litigation and loss thereof. The native will be in the company of

low

class women and have a lot of troubles from enemies.

Scorpio is ruled by Mars and there can be problems related to

property and such because of Ketu, no matter where Mars resides.

So when this native would be suffering these significations, could

the astrologer look the native in the eye and say "Your Ketu is

exalted, Parashara said so" ?

Regards,

Wen

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Namaste

 

If an astrologer said to the native "your Ketu is exalted" that

wouldn't be very helpful! If they knew what that meant in terms of

their life or their query then they wouldn't be seeking an

astologer! :)

 

I do see where Parashara says that an exalted planet will give "fully

good results", however in this chapter (3) Parashara only gives

exaltation signs for the 7 planets and not Rahu & Ketu.

 

Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara

describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where

Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give

fully good results."

 

Usually there are more exceptions to rules than there are rules :)

 

Thanks for any help,

Sean

 

jyotish-vidya, "walkingmisswendy"

<walkingmisswendy> wrote:

>

> Hi All,

> The classics also note that if Ketu is natally positioned between

> 216.40 and 220.00 ( which is basically the ANURADHA nakshatra)in

> scorpio, the native will have a lot of problems with property and

> litigation and loss thereof. The native will be in the company of

low

> class women and have a lot of troubles from enemies.

> Scorpio is ruled by Mars and there can be problems related to

> property and such because of Ketu, no matter where Mars resides.

> So when this native would be suffering these significations, could

> the astrologer look the native in the eye and say "Your Ketu is

> exalted, Parashara said so" ?

> Regards,

> Wen

>

>

>

> jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek"

<jyotish@o...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jiger,

> >

> > You Wrote:

> > //deblited ra ke axis in 1 7 again is a great yoga for

> > spirituality//

> >

> > Perhaps this is a typing error on your part? As we know,

Parashara

> > gives the signs of debilitation for Rahu and Ketu (respectively)

as

> > Scorpio and Taurus. We also know that there is some disagreement

> > amongst the sages regarding this...which emphasises (once again)

> the

> > need to adhere to one teaching in order to avoid confusion. For

the

> > benefit of all I give the signs of exaltation, debilitation etc.,

> > according to Parashara:

> >

> > RAHU:

> > Exalted = Taurus

> > Debilitated = Scorpio

> > Moolatrikona = Gemini

> > Own Sign = Aquarius

> >

> > KETU:

> > Exalted = Scorpio

> > Debilitated = Taurus

> > Moolatrikona = Sagittarius

> > Own Sign = Scorpio

> >

> > Even the lesser used Upagrahas have their signs of exaltation etc

> > (according to some sages). However these seem not to be specified

> by

> > Parashara himself. In the version I have, R. Santhanam (in his

> > notes) refers to Keeranura Nataraj's Jatakalankaram.

> >

> > //with time on private mail I will give you bunch of short cuts

> of

> > nadi to use//

> >

> > If you have knowledge to share it would be good to share it with

> > everyone, Jiger, don't you think? This is why the group is

> here...to

> > share freely for the benefit of all.

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > ______________________________

> >

> > -

> > "jiger shah" <jigershah@m...>

> > <jyotish-vidya>

> > Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:00 PM

> > Re: The question of my marriage

> >

> >

> > balaji with 32 complete soon

> >

> > ur astrology will get better for next 9 years

> >

> > and jup in 8 is great combination for a great astrologer

aspected

> > by moon and 2nd house as pected by 9th lord

> >

> > with time on private mail I will give you bunch of short cuts

of

> > nadi to use

> >

> > send me a blank email at

> > jigershah@m...<jigershah@m...>

> >

> > deblited ra ke axis in 1 7 again is a great yoga for

spirituality

> >

> > parashar says jup in 6 7 8 will give native highest place

> after

> > death

> >

> > remember now ve and sa are in parivartaan if they do the

job

> > for each other

> >

> > for marriage is a great possobility

> >

> > me sa dasha bye for now

> >

>

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Dear Sean,

 

You Wrote:

//Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara

describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where

Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give

fully good results."//

 

Parashara gives the exaltation, debilitation (etc) of the nodes in

Ch.47 (Vol 2):

 

"34-: In order to clarify the effects of the Dasha of Rahu I shall

first mention the exaltation and debilitation Rashis of Rahu and

Ketu. The exaltation Rashi of Rahu is Vrishabh. The exaltation Rashi

of Ketu is Vrischik. The Multrikonas of Rahu and Ketu are Mithun and

Dhanu. The own Rashis of Rahu and Ketu are Kumbh and Vrischik. (Some

sages have expressed the view, that Kanya is the own Rashi of Rahu

and Meen is the own Rashi of Ketu).... etc, etc.."

 

In regards to Ketu he says:

"72-77. If Ketu is in a Kendr, a Trikon, or in Labh, in a benefic

Rashi, in his exaltation, or in his own Rashi, there will be during

his Dasha cordial relations with the king, desired headship of a

country, or village, comforts of conveyances, happiness from

children, gain from foreign countries, happiness from wife and

acquisition of cattle. If Ketu is in Sahaj, Ari, or Labh, there will

be in his Dasha acquisition of a kingdom, good relations with

friends and opportunities for the acquisition of elephants. At the

commencement of the Ketu Dasha there will be Raj Yog. During the

middle portion of the Dasha there will be possibilities of

fearfulness and in the last part there will be sufferings from

ailments and journeys to distant places. If Ketu is in Dhan, Randhr,

or Vyaya, or receives a Drishti from a malefic, there will be

imprisonment, destruction of kinsmen and residential premises and

anxieties, company of menials and diseases."

 

In all of these GUIDELINES given by the sage we have to exercise our

own common sense...this is also instructed by Parashara :-))

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

 

-

"Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean

<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:17 AM

Re: The question of my marriage

 

 

Namaste

 

If an astrologer said to the native "your Ketu is exalted" that

wouldn't be very helpful! If they knew what that meant in terms of

their life or their query then they wouldn't be seeking an

astologer! :)

 

I do see where Parashara says that an exalted planet will give

"fully

good results", however in this chapter (3) Parashara only gives

exaltation signs for the 7 planets and not Rahu & Ketu.

 

Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara

describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where

Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give

fully good results."

 

Usually there are more exceptions to rules than there are rules :)

 

Thanks for any help,

Sean

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Thank you Fraser (wen??),

 

A thorn by any name is still a thorn, is this not so. You can

under as many names as you wish I will still recognise

you - immediately!

 

Now, instead of trying to score points, let's try to look at this

intelligently... If you can put aside your overwhelming need to get

under my skin and take a look at the following charts (both with

Ketu in Scorpio) we might be able to actually apply the dictums of

the sages in a logical fashion.

 

Deepak Chopra

Oct 22 1946 (15:51)

New Delhi, India

Lagna: Aquarius 26°29'45"

Ketu: Scorpio 19°31'01"

_________________________

 

David Gault

Oct 29 1965 (10:01)

Warrnambool, Australia

Lagna: Sagittarius 23°59'21"

Ketu: Scorpio 11°32'42"

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"walkingmisswendy" <walkingmisswendy

<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:41 AM

Re: The question of my marriage

 

 

Hi All,

>From 0.00-3.20 Scorpio, nakshatra is Vishaka:

Ketu in this division, makes the nativelack confidence, occassional

mental depression and chronic dysentry.

But Ketu is exalted - Parashara said so !

Regards,

Wen

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O Wendy,

I have cast Deepak's chart and am amazed to find that the only back-

up that ketu has got is it's dispositor Mars in 9th house. Now, if

you were to look at my chart and check out ketu and it's dispositor,

you would have to agree that I would have better significations of

Ketu than Deepak. Point being - metaphysics used as a business

(deepak) is due to the fact that he has a supporting chart. In my

case, I would not peddle theosophy in the name of divinity.

Significations of Ketu EXALTED - in deepak's chart ??

Show me !

Regards,

Fraser(the rose)

 

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...>

wrote:

>

> Thank you Fraser (wen??),

>

> A thorn by any name is still a thorn, is this not so. You can

> under as many names as you wish I will still recognise

> you - immediately!

>

> Now, instead of trying to score points, let's try to look at this

> intelligently... If you can put aside your overwhelming need to get

> under my skin and take a look at the following charts (both with

> Ketu in Scorpio) we might be able to actually apply the dictums of

> the sages in a logical fashion.

>

> Deepak Chopra

> Oct 22 1946 (15:51)

> New Delhi, India

> Lagna: Aquarius 26°29'45"

> Ketu: Scorpio 19°31'01"

> _________________________

>

> David Gault

> Oct 29 1965 (10:01)

> Warrnambool, Australia

> Lagna: Sagittarius 23°59'21"

> Ketu: Scorpio 11°32'42"

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "walkingmisswendy" <walkingmisswendy>

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:41 AM

> Re: The question of my marriage

>

>

> Hi All,

> From 0.00-3.20 Scorpio, nakshatra is Vishaka:

> Ketu in this division, makes the nativelack confidence, occassional

> mental depression and chronic dysentry.

> But Ketu is exalted - Parashara said so !

> Regards,

> Wen

>

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Really Fraser, I'm quickly loosing patience with you :-(

 

Try to read the chart objectively if you can...without prejudice!

Deepak has Ketu in 10th (conjunct 9th lord) whilst both his

dispositor Mars and star lord Mercury are conjunct Jupiter and Sun

in 9th - you should be aware that Deepak was also a successful

doctor before he became a teacher and author of holistic

medicine...can you see this in his chart??

 

[in 1985, Deepak Chopra left a successful and highly regarded

position as chief of staff at The New England Memorial Hospital in

Stoneham, Massachusetts, in order to dedicate his life to expanding

the impact and effectiveness of conventional medicine. Today he is

nationally recognized in the holistic health field.]

 

Put your prejudice in your pocket and read the chart properly,

Fraser! Most certainly, true to the nature of Ketu, his career has

revolved around moksha (holistic medicine etc). You may agree or

disagree with the fact that he has made money from this...note 2nd

lord Jupiter in 9th conjunct Ketu's dispositor(Mars) and star

lord(Mercury), but the fact remains that he has been very

successful - Ketu here has not harmed his career.

 

Importantly also, in terms of career, is exalted Rahu in 4th with

his dispositor Venus (conjunct Ketu) in 10th etc, etc.. Think about

this and try to give an unbiased reading if you can.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"walkingmisswendy" <walkingmisswendy

<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:16 PM

Re: The question of my marriage

 

 

O Wendy,

I have cast Deepak's chart and am amazed to find that the only back-

up that ketu has got is it's dispositor Mars in 9th house. Now, if

you were to look at my chart and check out ketu and it's dispositor,

you would have to agree that I would have better significations of

Ketu than Deepak. Point being - metaphysics used as a business

(deepak) is due to the fact that he has a supporting chart. In my

case, I would not peddle theosophy in the name of divinity.

Significations of Ketu EXALTED - in deepak's chart ??

Show me !

Regards,

Fraser(the rose)

 

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...>

wrote:

>

> Thank you Fraser (wen??),

>

> A thorn by any name is still a thorn, is this not so. You can

> under as many names as you wish I will still recognise

> you - immediately!

>

> Now, instead of trying to score points, let's try to look at this

> intelligently... If you can put aside your overwhelming need to

> get

> under my skin and take a look at the following charts (both with

> Ketu in Scorpio) we might be able to actually apply the dictums of

> the sages in a logical fashion.

>

> Deepak Chopra

> Oct 22 1946 (15:51)

> New Delhi, India

> Lagna: Aquarius 26°29'45"

> Ketu: Scorpio 19°31'01"

> _________________________

>

> David Gault

> Oct 29 1965 (10:01)

> Warrnambool, Australia

> Lagna: Sagittarius 23°59'21"

> Ketu: Scorpio 11°32'42"

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

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Wendy,

you have just said what I said--

good career !!

BUT the true significations of what really Ketu stands for:

 

• The divinity of Ketu

• The non-commercial spiritual attainment and

• The transcedental conciousness

 

are not "noteworthy" in Deepak's chart,

as one might expect to see, as a

case study chart to showcase the exaltation of Ketu in Scorpio.

and why would I have a 'biased' view of this?

If you make a valid point, I will be the first to accept (this may

surprise you)but its true, and I have a very healthy attitude towards

my betters. (this would amaze you)

Let us begin, with the basics. What do YOU say 'constitutes'

exaltation. Teach me, please !

Regards,

Fraser

 

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...>

wrote:

>

> Really Fraser, I'm quickly loosing patience with you :-(

>

> Try to read the chart objectively if you can...without prejudice!

> Deepak has Ketu in 10th (conjunct 9th lord) whilst both his

> dispositor Mars and star lord Mercury are conjunct Jupiter and Sun

> in 9th - you should be aware that Deepak was also a successful

> doctor before he became a teacher and author of holistic

> medicine...can you see this in his chart??

>

> [in 1985, Deepak Chopra left a successful and highly regarded

> position as chief of staff at The New England Memorial Hospital in

> Stoneham, Massachusetts, in order to dedicate his life to expanding

> the impact and effectiveness of conventional medicine. Today he is

> nationally recognized in the holistic health field.]

>

> Put your prejudice in your pocket and read the chart properly,

> Fraser! Most certainly, true to the nature of Ketu, his career has

> revolved around moksha (holistic medicine etc). You may agree or

> disagree with the fact that he has made money from this...note 2nd

> lord Jupiter in 9th conjunct Ketu's dispositor(Mars) and star

> lord(Mercury), but the fact remains that he has been very

> successful - Ketu here has not harmed his career.

>

> Importantly also, in terms of career, is exalted Rahu in 4th with

> his dispositor Venus (conjunct Ketu) in 10th etc, etc.. Think about

> this and try to give an unbiased reading if you can.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "walkingmisswendy" <walkingmisswendy>

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:16 PM

> Re: The question of my marriage

>

>

> O Wendy,

> I have cast Deepak's chart and am amazed to find that the only back-

> up that ketu has got is it's dispositor Mars in 9th house. Now, if

> you were to look at my chart and check out ketu and it's dispositor,

> you would have to agree that I would have better significations of

> Ketu than Deepak. Point being - metaphysics used as a business

> (deepak) is due to the fact that he has a supporting chart. In my

> case, I would not peddle theosophy in the name of divinity.

> Significations of Ketu EXALTED - in deepak's chart ??

> Show me !

> Regards,

> Fraser(the rose)

>

> jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Thank you Fraser (wen??),

> >

> > A thorn by any name is still a thorn, is this not so. You can

> > under as many names as you wish I will still recognise

> > you - immediately!

> >

> > Now, instead of trying to score points, let's try to look at this

> > intelligently... If you can put aside your overwhelming need to

> > get

> > under my skin and take a look at the following charts (both with

> > Ketu in Scorpio) we might be able to actually apply the dictums of

> > the sages in a logical fashion.

> >

> > Deepak Chopra

> > Oct 22 1946 (15:51)

> > New Delhi, India

> > Lagna: Aquarius 26°29'45"

> > Ketu: Scorpio 19°31'01"

> > _________________________

> >

> > David Gault

> > Oct 29 1965 (10:01)

> > Warrnambool, Australia

> > Lagna: Sagittarius 23°59'21"

> > Ketu: Scorpio 11°32'42"

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > ______________________________

>

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Fraser,

 

Why would you assume that the true(?) significations of Ketu are not

noteworthy(?) in Deepak's chart... Give me your reasons.

 

How can you possibly know the level of divinity(?) as it's

manifested in this chart?

 

Non-commercial spiritual attainment?? Perhaps you're confusing

success in career with attachment to career. It is possible to be

non-attached to success...or are you one who believes it's only

possible to be non-attached to poverty. To see both success and

failure as the impostors they are is the mark of true detachment, is

it not? If fate hands you success, you accept it; if fate hands you

poverty, you accept it - this is detachment!

 

Again, how can you possibly know the quality of transcendental

consciousness as it's manifested in this chart.

 

I'll speak more on this chart when I have a bit more time to spare

than I do at the moment.

 

//and I have a very healthy attitude towards my betters. (this would

amaze you)//

 

Yes, this would amaze me, Fraser! Although I do not consider myself

a better(?) to anyone, I do find your new ID (walkingmisswendy)

totally disrespectful...and that was exactly what you intended!

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"walkingmisswendy" <walkingmisswendy

<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:49 PM

Re: The question of my marriage

 

 

Wendy,

you have just said what I said--

good career !!

BUT the true significations of what really Ketu stands for:

 

.. The divinity of Ketu

.. The non-commercial spiritual attainment and

.. The transcedental conciousness

 

are not "noteworthy" in Deepak's chart,

as one might expect to see, as a

case study chart to showcase the exaltation of Ketu in Scorpio.

and why would I have a 'biased' view of this?

If you make a valid point, I will be the first to accept (this may

surprise you)but its true, and I have a very healthy attitude

towards

my betters. (this would amaze you)

Let us begin, with the basics. What do YOU say 'constitutes'

exaltation. Teach me, please !

Regards,

Fraser

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Dear Wendy,

 

Thank you very much! That was very helpful - I searched for awhile

looking for that info.

 

Take it easy,

Sean

 

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Sean,

>

> You Wrote:

> //Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara

> describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where

> Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give

> fully good results."//

>

> Parashara gives the exaltation, debilitation (etc) of the nodes in

> Ch.47 (Vol 2):

>

> "34-: In order to clarify the effects of the Dasha of Rahu I shall

> first mention the exaltation and debilitation Rashis of Rahu and

> Ketu. The exaltation Rashi of Rahu is Vrishabh. The exaltation

Rashi

> of Ketu is Vrischik. The Multrikonas of Rahu and Ketu are Mithun

and

> Dhanu. The own Rashis of Rahu and Ketu are Kumbh and Vrischik.

(Some

> sages have expressed the view, that Kanya is the own Rashi of Rahu

> and Meen is the own Rashi of Ketu).... etc, etc.."

>

> In regards to Ketu he says:

> "72-77. If Ketu is in a Kendr, a Trikon, or in Labh, in a benefic

> Rashi, in his exaltation, or in his own Rashi, there will be during

> his Dasha cordial relations with the king, desired headship of a

> country, or village, comforts of conveyances, happiness from

> children, gain from foreign countries, happiness from wife and

> acquisition of cattle. If Ketu is in Sahaj, Ari, or Labh, there

will

> be in his Dasha acquisition of a kingdom, good relations with

> friends and opportunities for the acquisition of elephants. At the

> commencement of the Ketu Dasha there will be Raj Yog. During the

> middle portion of the Dasha there will be possibilities of

> fearfulness and in the last part there will be sufferings from

> ailments and journeys to distant places. If Ketu is in Dhan,

Randhr,

> or Vyaya, or receives a Drishti from a malefic, there will be

> imprisonment, destruction of kinsmen and residential premises and

> anxieties, company of menials and diseases."

>

> In all of these GUIDELINES given by the sage we have to exercise

our

> own common sense...this is also instructed by Parashara :-))

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

>

> -

> "Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean>

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:17 AM

> Re: The question of my marriage

>

>

> Namaste

>

> If an astrologer said to the native "your Ketu is exalted" that

> wouldn't be very helpful! If they knew what that meant in terms of

> their life or their query then they wouldn't be seeking an

> astologer! :)

>

> I do see where Parashara says that an exalted planet will give

> "fully

> good results", however in this chapter (3) Parashara only gives

> exaltation signs for the 7 planets and not Rahu & Ketu.

>

> Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara

> describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where

> Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give

> fully good results."

>

> Usually there are more exceptions to rules than there are rules :)

>

> Thanks for any help,

> Sean

>

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Dear Mrs Wendy,

More we structure about these nodes, more we feel them as shadow planets.No

doubt seers have mentioned in various contexts in various ways.Like "Sanivada

Rahu and Kujavada Ketu" is also a quote ancient script.we also know that where

ever they get associated(PAC) they tend behave like those planets.The story of

demons fighiting for nectar have always all elements imbibed in them.Infact the

story of distribution of various houses to the planets and the influence of 12

houses is a well known tale in jyotish.

i have no hesitation to accept it as windy too.But Ketu acts like mars is also

a known fact.In my one of my mails I had also doubt whether sun is malefic and

so billious. one thing is certain mars,Rahu and ketu can not be considered as

satwic.ofcourse in my own practical experience,ketu influenced are no doubt opt

for religious beliefs and faiths .But seen them to get irritated quite

often.Rahu ofcourse smoky,dull etc.ketu brown(?) and enrgitic and analytical.

iam sure we are only revisiting about chayagrahas .Very recently i read rahu

causes microbes and ketu virus in the recent Astrological magazine of late

b.v.raman.

krishnan

 

Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

Dear Krishnan,

 

You Wrote:

//Also mars and ketu are fiery planets//

 

Where did you learn this??

 

According to Parashara, Ketu, like Rahu, is windy in temperament.

Unlike Mars and Sun who are bilious (fiery). He states clearly in

Ch3. 30 of BPHS:

 

NODES - DESCRIPTION OF RAHU AND KETU

"Rahu has smoky appearance with a blue-mix physique. He resides in

forests and is horrible. He is windy in temperament and is

intelligent. Ketu is akin to Rahu."

http://jyotishvidya.com/ch3.htm

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:27 AM

Re: Re: The question of my marriage

 

 

Hell Wen,

Really you have made a good question with ketu in 8th,may signify

exaltation due to its position between 3.21 to 13.20 degrees of

anuradha.Then which bhava does it signify and how placement of mars

in D/too before astrologer ventures to speak out.

I agree with you if in4/10 axis otherwise no.Also mars and ketu

are fiery planets and in watery sign of scorpio in the location of

nakshtra lord saturn,the effort increases,to achieve even through

propitation desired will also be seen.The native therefore along

with low class association and other pleasures looks to religous

faith to achieve his/her own wishes

krishnan

 

walkingmisswendy <walkingmisswendy wrote:

Hi All,

The classics also note that if Ketu is natally positioned between

216.40 and 220.00 ( which is basically the ANURADHA nakshatra)in

scorpio, the native will have a lot of problems with property and

litigation and loss thereof. The native will be in the company of

low

class women and have a lot of troubles from enemies.

Scorpio is ruled by Mars and there can be problems related to

property and such because of Ketu, no matter where Mars resides.

So when this native would be suffering these significations, could

the astrologer look the native in the eye and say "Your Ketu is

exalted, Parashara said so" ?

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jyotish-vidya, "Sean Patrick Kelly"

<toosean> wrote:

>

> Dear Wendy,

>

> Thank you very much! That was very helpful - I searched for awhile

> looking for that info.

>

> Take it easy,

> Sean

>

> jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sean,

> >

> > You Wrote:

> > //Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara

> > describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where

> > Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give

> > fully good results."//

> >

> > Parashara gives the exaltation, debilitation (etc) of the nodes in

> > Ch.47 (Vol 2):

> >

> > "34-: In order to clarify the effects of the Dasha of Rahu I shall

> > first mention the exaltation and debilitation Rashis of Rahu and

> > Ketu. The exaltation Rashi of Rahu is Vrishabh. The exaltation

> Rashi

> > of Ketu is Vrischik. The Multrikonas of Rahu and Ketu are Mithun

> and

> > Dhanu. The own Rashis of Rahu and Ketu are Kumbh and Vrischik.

> (Some

> > sages have expressed the view, that Kanya is the own Rashi of Rahu

> > and Meen is the own Rashi of Ketu).... etc, etc.."

> >

<snip>

 

I wonder why Parashara stated the exaltation signs for the other

planets in chapter 3, and then waited until chapter 47 to state the

exaltation signs of Rahu and Ketu. Even then he only states them in

passing, "to clarify the effects of the Dasha". Most of BPHS seems

quite well organised.

 

Barney

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Wendy,

OK that's enough!!

The 'other' purpose of this post is to see for myself, if you allow

it to be put up on the forum.

I will first address your hysterics and then impart knowledge for

whoever's benefit.

//How can you possibly know the level of divinity(?) as it's

manifested in this chart?//

 

I have seen Deepak on TV on numerous occasions, and heard the man

talk. Seen the man's condescending, supercilious, patronising

attitude to the rest of the panel. His almost insulting ways and tone

to a catholic priest. His attitude during the war, when he spoke of

love conquering all. He spoke with that 'holier than thou' attitude.

I can go on about other and much 'authenticated' stuff, but I do not

want this to be on this forum, and it does not matter what you think.

 

//It is possible to be non-attached to success...or are you one

who believes it's only possible to be non-attached to poverty.//

 

If you actually believe, that, that is what I suggested, then I have

nothing to say on that point at all. If you knew my background or if

you knew basic astrology, you would know better, having access to my

birth chart. But, never mind, I understand......

 

//Yes, this would amaze me, Fraser! Although I do not consider

myself a better(?) to anyone, I do find your new ID

walkingmisswendy) totally disrespectful...and that was exactly

what you intended!//

 

The name I chose, was malicious. I take full reponsibility to having

an intent that was far from 'pure'. I do see that it was in bad

taste, to say the least. It was a nasty temptation that I gave in to.

It was wrong. It is despicable. It carried with it, a twisted sense

of humour. It was the work of the lesser man in me. If you have read

so far and are waiting for that word, here it is: SORRY !!.

Now Wendy, what did we learn here? GRACE. Yes, Grace. I have the

backbone to own up and admit, and receive, that rap on the wrist. If

only, you would take a lesson from me and stop getting hyper at every

turn.

ALSO, -this I never thought, I would be forced to bring up, but I

find it compelling now. In the last few days I have received more

than 9 (yes more than 9 -its not a typo)private emails,

from 'regulars' on this forum. If they are reading this, they know

who they are. The contents of those emails is negative, and its not

directed towards me.

The last time I asked you if you wanted me to leave and you blocked

me. I don't understand. Ask me to leave openly on the forum and I

will leave. It's simple.

No matter what you say and think, I do not have anything against you.

I do not send out malicious private emails. Thats not me. I prefer to

be outspoken and honest. Even after reading my birth chart, you don't

know me at all.

I will be copy-pasting this post to all those who have mailed me

privately, lest you delete it before the world sets eyes on it.

I am sure a lot of them are still waiting for your definition of

EXALTATION.

Have a nice day, Wendy.

Regards,

Fraser

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...>

wrote:

>

> Fraser,

>

> Why would you assume that the true(?) significations of Ketu are

not

> noteworthy(?) in Deepak's chart... Give me your reasons.

>

> How can you possibly know the level of divinity(?) as it's

> manifested in this chart?

>

> Non-commercial spiritual attainment?? Perhaps you're confusing

> success in career with attachment to career. It is possible to be

> non-attached to success...or are you one who believes it's only

> possible to be non-attached to poverty. To see both success and

> failure as the impostors they are is the mark of true detachment,

is

> it not? If fate hands you success, you accept it; if fate hands you

> poverty, you accept it - this is detachment!

>

> Again, how can you possibly know the quality of transcendental

> consciousness as it's manifested in this chart.

>

> I'll speak more on this chart when I have a bit more time to spare

> than I do at the moment.

>

> //and I have a very healthy attitude towards my betters. (this

would

> amaze you)//

>

> Yes, this would amaze me, Fraser! Although I do not consider myself

> a better(?) to anyone, I do find your new ID (walkingmisswendy)

> totally disrespectful...and that was exactly what you intended!

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "walkingmisswendy" <walkingmisswendy>

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:49 PM

> Re: The question of my marriage

>

>

> Wendy,

> you have just said what I said--

> good career !!

> BUT the true significations of what really Ketu stands for:

>

> . The divinity of Ketu

> . The non-commercial spiritual attainment and

> . The transcedental conciousness

>

> are not "noteworthy" in Deepak's chart,

> as one might expect to see, as a

> case study chart to showcase the exaltation of Ketu in Scorpio.

> and why would I have a 'biased' view of this?

> If you make a valid point, I will be the first to accept (this may

> surprise you)but its true, and I have a very healthy attitude

> towards

> my betters. (this would amaze you)

> Let us begin, with the basics. What do YOU say 'constitutes'

> exaltation. Teach me, please !

> Regards,

> Fraser

>

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Dear Mrs Wendy,

This is how:

"In all of these GUIDELINES given by the sage we have to exercise

our own common sense...this is also instructed by Parashara :))"

You have a very method of citing the references and is an indication of

knpwledge.

Thanx we are fully benifited by your advice as always

regards

krishnan

 

 

 

Sean Patrick Kelly <toosean wrote: Dear Wendy,

 

Thank you very much! That was very helpful - I searched for awhile

looking for that info.

 

Take it easy,

Sean

 

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@o...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Sean,

>

> You Wrote:

> //Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara

> describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where

> Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give

> fully good results."//

>

> Parashara gives the exaltation, debilitation (etc) of the nodes in

> Ch.47 (Vol 2):

>

> "34-: In order to clarify the effects of the Dasha of Rahu I shall

> first mention the exaltation and debilitation Rashis of Rahu and

> Ketu. The exaltation Rashi of Rahu is Vrishabh. The exaltation

Rashi

> of Ketu is Vrischik. The Multrikonas of Rahu and Ketu are Mithun

and

> Dhanu. The own Rashis of Rahu and Ketu are Kumbh and Vrischik.

(Some

> sages have expressed the view, that Kanya is the own Rashi of Rahu

> and Meen is the own Rashi of Ketu).... etc, etc.."

>

> In regards to Ketu he says:

> "72-77. If Ketu is in a Kendr, a Trikon, or in Labh, in a benefic

> Rashi, in his exaltation, or in his own Rashi, there will be during

> his Dasha cordial relations with the king, desired headship of a

> country, or village, comforts of conveyances, happiness from

> children, gain from foreign countries, happiness from wife and

> acquisition of cattle. If Ketu is in Sahaj, Ari, or Labh, there

will

> be in his Dasha acquisition of a kingdom, good relations with

> friends and opportunities for the acquisition of elephants. At the

> commencement of the Ketu Dasha there will be Raj Yog. During the

> middle portion of the Dasha there will be possibilities of

> fearfulness and in the last part there will be sufferings from

> ailments and journeys to distant places. If Ketu is in Dhan,

Randhr,

> or Vyaya, or receives a Drishti from a malefic, there will be

> imprisonment, destruction of kinsmen and residential premises and

> anxieties, company of menials and diseases."

>

> In all of these GUIDELINES given by the sage we have to exercise

our

> own common sense...this is also instructed by Parashara :-))

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

>

> -

> "Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean>

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:17 AM

> Re: The question of my marriage

>

>

> Namaste

>

> If an astrologer said to the native "your Ketu is exalted" that

> wouldn't be very helpful! If they knew what that meant in terms of

> their life or their query then they wouldn't be seeking an

> astologer! :)

>

> I do see where Parashara says that an exalted planet will give

> "fully

> good results", however in this chapter (3) Parashara only gives

> exaltation signs for the 7 planets and not Rahu & Ketu.

>

> Can any member of list point me to any chapters in which Parashara

> describes exalatation & debilitation for Rahu & Ketu and/or where

> Parashara provides exceptions to the rule "exalted planets will give

> fully good results."

>

> Usually there are more exceptions to rules than there are rules :)

>

> Thanks for any help,

> Sean

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Krishnan,

 

You Wrote:

//This is how:

"In all of these GUIDELINES given by the sage we have to exercise

our own common sense...this is also instructed by Parashara :))"

You have a very method of citing the references and is an indication

of knpwledge.

Thanx we are fully benifited by your advice as always.//

 

It's good to know my efforts have not been (completely) in vain :-)

 

I've been busy with computer maintenance for most of the day and,

thanks to the advice of Rui, I may be on top of my problems at

last...fingers crossed! With any luck at all I can catch up with

mails soon.

 

PS: Rui, so far Norton has found and fixed 295 windows registry

errors and 67 shortcut errors (amongst other things)...my poor

computer was very sick! Thank you again for your advice - much

appreciated :-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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