Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Dear Das, You Wrote: //It's not real gratifying to talk about pain and mental disease though. It's not like I'm proud. I get a bad taste often from this list and this identity I have here, including the mental stuff. I'm not into that. I'm into doing stuff, making things, being creative and productive. But this happened, and serious stuff like this require serious handling, and truth, and people benefit from truth.// Although I don't participate on your list these days, I do read the mail from time to time. And, like many, all I can do is be a witness to the pain you often have to endure. Like many I wish I could change things for you but we all know that karma cannot be changed - not even by the most ardent well-wishers. In my opinion it's extremely short-sighted of those who tell you "It's all in the mind" and that you should think positive thoughts. All I can say is that such advice does not come from the pen of any "learned" astrologer. Of course it's all in the mind...and the mind is afflicted. What comes from that mind is a reflection of that affliction. Das, the chart that's been put forward to study (on my group) this week is of another well-known sufferer of mental illness. As soon as I looked at the chart I was reminded of you...so many similarities! In the chart I speak of, the native suffers from schizophrenia whilst you suffer from Bi-Polar; none-the-less the similarities are great. I'm sure (I hope) you won't mind if I comment (on my group) about the similarities between the two charts. I'll tell you a little bit here of what I see... As we know the trishadaya lords (3,6,11) give evil effects according to Parashara. In your case, 4th lord Moon, conjunct Ketu, occupies 11th and is aspected by 11th lord Saturn - Saturn, as we know is the planet of depression. In the study chart, Moon is conjunct 11th lord Mars who BTW disposits SA/KE. In both charts Moon's affliction by trishadaya lord is evident. Two different illnesses, of course, but the affliction is clear. Similarly you both have a unique genius in a particular field. Take Care Das, and know that there are many who do have compassion for the pain you have to endure, and, although it's often painful to read, we don't pass judgement. In the words of Christ; "Judge not lest ye yourselves be judged". Best Wishes, Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Dear All, I cross-posted the below message because I felt honour bound to let Das know his chart was being discussed here. For those who wish to compare the two charts Das's details follow: Das Goravani May 18 1960 (04:43) Oakland, CA USA Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish <valist> Cc: <jyotish-vidya> Monday, February 13, 2006 7:31 PM Re: A view less viewed Dear Das, You Wrote: //It's not real gratifying to talk about pain and mental disease though. It's not like I'm proud. I get a bad taste often from this list and this identity I have here, including the mental stuff. I'm not into that. I'm into doing stuff, making things, being creative and productive. But this happened, and serious stuff like this require serious handling, and truth, and people benefit from truth.// Although I don't participate on your list these days, I do read the mail from time to time. And, like many, all I can do is be a witness to the pain you often have to endure. Like many I wish I could change things for you but we all know that karma cannot be changed - not even by the most ardent well-wishers. In my opinion it's extremely short-sighted of those who tell you "It's all in the mind" and that you should think positive thoughts. All I can say is that such advice does not come from the pen of any "learned" astrologer. Of course it's all in the mind...and the mind is afflicted. What comes from that mind is a reflection of that affliction. Das, the chart that's been put forward to study (on my group) this week is of another well-known sufferer of mental illness. As soon as I looked at the chart I was reminded of you...so many similarities! In the chart I speak of, the native suffers from schizophrenia whilst you suffer from Bi-Polar; none-the-less the similarities are great. I'm sure (I hope) you won't mind if I comment (on my group) about the similarities between the two charts. I'll tell you a little bit here of what I see... As we know the trishadaya lords (3,6,11) give evil effects according to Parashara. In your case, 4th lord Moon, conjunct Ketu, occupies 11th and is aspected by 11th lord Saturn - Saturn, as we know is the planet of depression. In the study chart, Moon is conjunct 11th lord Mars who BTW disposits SA/KE. In both charts Moon's affliction by trishadaya lord is evident. Two different illnesses, of course, but the affliction is clear. Similarly you both have a unique genius in a particular field. Take Care Das, and know that there are many who do have compassion for the pain you have to endure, and, although it's often painful to read, we don't pass judgement. In the words of Christ; "Judge not lest ye yourselves be judged". Best Wishes, Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Would it be permissable to ask Das if we can include his birth details to the database since his chart has been brought up to compare with our Group Study Chart this week? Could be listed in second column after birth details as GROUP STUDY CHART; (Week l. Feb 13) Comparison Chart Eventually, if this goes well. I can see a whole database Titled Group Study and listed by weeks Uttara :-) jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear All, > > I cross-posted the below message because I felt honour bound to let > Das know his chart was being discussed here. For those who wish to > compare the two charts Das's details follow: > > Das Goravani > May 18 1960 (04:43) > Oakland, CA > USA > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish > <valist> > Cc: <jyotish-vidya> > Monday, February 13, 2006 7:31 PM > Re: A view less viewed > > > Dear Das, > > You Wrote: > //It's not real gratifying to talk about pain and mental disease > though. It's not like I'm proud. I get a bad taste often from this > list and this identity I have here, including the mental stuff. I'm > not into that. I'm into doing stuff, making things, being creative > and productive. But this happened, and serious stuff like this > require serious handling, and truth, and people benefit from truth.// > > Although I don't participate on your list these days, I do read the > mail from time to time. And, like many, all I can do is be a witness > to the pain you often have to endure. Like many I wish I could change > things for you but we all know that karma cannot be changed - not > even by the most ardent well-wishers. In my opinion it's extremely > short-sighted of those who tell you "It's all in the mind" and that > you should think positive thoughts. All I can say is that such advice > does not come from the pen of any "learned" astrologer. > > Of course it's all in the mind...and the mind is afflicted. What > comes from that mind is a reflection of that affliction. > > Das, the chart that's been put forward to study (on my group) this > week is of another well-known sufferer of mental illness. As soon as > I looked at the chart I was reminded of you...so many similarities! > In the chart I speak of, the native suffers from schizophrenia whilst > you suffer from Bi-Polar; none-the-less the similarities are great. > I'm sure (I hope) you won't mind if I comment (on my group) about the > similarities between the two charts. I'll tell you a little bit here > of what I see... > > As we know the trishadaya lords (3,6,11) give evil effects according > to Parashara. In your case, 4th lord Moon, conjunct Ketu, occupies > 11th and is aspected by 11th lord Saturn - Saturn, as we know is the > planet of depression. In the study chart, Moon is conjunct 11th lord > Mars who BTW disposits SA/KE. In both charts Moon's affliction by > trishadaya lord is evident. Two different illnesses, of course, but > the affliction is clear. Similarly you both have a unique genius in a > particular field. > > Take Care Das, and know that there are many who do have compassion > for the pain you have to endure, and, although it's often painful to > read, we don't pass judgement. > > In the words of Christ; "Judge not lest ye yourselves be judged". > > Best Wishes, > Wendy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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