Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

Rahu as Amatyakaraka?

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Hari Om,

 

According to Jhora Rahu is my Amatyakaraka. This has me perplexed

because I thought the Amatyakaraka is the graha with the next highest

longitude after the Atmakaraka [shani], so why is the Amatyakaraka not

Shukra. After Rahu all of the Chara Karakas seem to follow according

to the degrees of Longitude. Am I missing something here?

My birth data is:

 

Olusanya Bey

September 28, 1961

Time: 8:20:00 am

Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)

Place: 77 W 25' 50", 34 N 45' 14"

Jacksonville, North Carolina, USA

Altitude: 15.00 meters

 

 

Planet Longitude Chara Karakatwa

Surya 11 Kanya 51' 24.81" Matrikaraka

Chandra 6 Vrish 00' 54.12" Putrakaraka

Mangala 4 Tula 28' 39.52" Gnyatikaraka

Budha 7 Tula 43' 05.13" Pitrikaraka

Guru 4 Makar 02' 14.56" Darakaraka

Shukra 12 Simh 38' 58.15" Bhratrikaraka

Shani 29 Dhanu 54' 59.50" Atmakaraka

Rahu 1 Simh 41' 41.76" Amatyakaraka

 

bahu dhanyavAdAH.

 

Namaste,

olusanya

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dear Olusanya,

 

Tell me what dasa system are you using, and what aspects i.e. graha

aspects or rasi aspects??

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"olu_bey" <olusanya

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:39 AM

Rahu as Amatyakaraka?

 

 

Hari Om,

 

According to Jhora Rahu is my Amatyakaraka. This has me perplexed

because I thought the Amatyakaraka is the graha with the next highest

longitude after the Atmakaraka [shani], so why is the Amatyakaraka

not

Shukra. After Rahu all of the Chara Karakas seem to follow according

to the degrees of Longitude. Am I missing something here?

My birth data is:

 

Olusanya Bey

September 28, 1961

Time: 8:20:00 am

Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)

Place: 77 W 25' 50", 34 N 45' 14"

Jacksonville, North Carolina, USA

Altitude: 15.00 meters

 

 

Planet Longitude Chara Karakatwa

Surya 11 Kanya 51' 24.81" Matrikaraka

Chandra 6 Vrish 00' 54.12" Putrakaraka

Mangala 4 Tula 28' 39.52" Gnyatikaraka

Budha 7 Tula 43' 05.13" Pitrikaraka

Guru 4 Makar 02' 14.56" Darakaraka

Shukra 12 Simh 38' 58.15" Bhratrikaraka

Shani 29 Dhanu 54' 59.50" Atmakaraka

Rahu 1 Simh 41' 41.76" Amatyakaraka

 

bahu dhanyavAdAH.

 

Namaste,

olusanya

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hari Om Wendy,

 

I use Vimsottari dasa. Are you asking what rasi and graha drishtis for Rahu?

 

 

RAHU Kanya, Surya 2nd House

Dhanus, Shani 5th House

Kumbha, Ketu 7th House

Mesha 9th House

 

The Rasi drishtis are Simha, Thula and Makara [i think thats all of them].

 

Thanks Much

Namaste,

olusanya

 

On 2/13/06, Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Olusanya,

>

> Tell me what dasa system are you using, and what aspects i.e. graha

> aspects or rasi aspects??

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "olu_bey" <olusanya

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:39 AM

> Rahu as Amatyakaraka?

>

>

> Hari Om,

>

> According to Jhora Rahu is my Amatyakaraka. This has me perplexed

> because I thought the Amatyakaraka is the graha with the next highest

> longitude after the Atmakaraka [shani], so why is the Amatyakaraka

> not

> Shukra. After Rahu all of the Chara Karakas seem to follow according

> to the degrees of Longitude. Am I missing something here?

> My birth data is:

>

> Olusanya Bey

> September 28, 1961

> Time: 8:20:00 am

> Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)

> Place: 77 W 25' 50", 34 N 45' 14"

> Jacksonville, North Carolina, USA

> Altitude: 15.00 meters

>

>

> Planet Longitude Chara Karakatwa

> Surya 11 Kanya 51' 24.81" Matrikaraka

> Chandra 6 Vrish 00' 54.12" Putrakaraka

> Mangala 4 Tula 28' 39.52" Gnyatikaraka

> Budha 7 Tula 43' 05.13" Pitrikaraka

> Guru 4 Makar 02' 14.56" Darakaraka

> Shukra 12 Simh 38' 58.15" Bhratrikaraka

> Shani 29 Dhanu 54' 59.50" Atmakaraka

> Rahu 1 Simh 41' 41.76" Amatyakaraka

>

> bahu dhanyavAdAH.

>

> Namaste,

> olusanya

>

>

>

>

>

> Astrology

chart</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=\

Vedic+astrology&w3=Personal+reading&c=3&s=64&.sig=yoswT0XE-vB9llMiB1sT1Q> Vedic

>

astrology</gads?t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart\

&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Personal+reading&c=3&s=64&.sig=_51dCbxdai4uLT_0QkDkQQ>

Personal

>

reading</gads?t=ms&k=Personal+reading&w1=Astrology+chart&\

w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Personal+reading&c=3&s=64&.sig=tMlZMzSPyuffO0tEMLYpFg>

> ------------------------------

>

>

>

> - Visit your group

"jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>"

> on the web.

>

> -

>

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya- (AT) (DOT) \

com?subject=Un>

>

> - Terms of

> Service <>.

>

>

> ------------------------------

>

 

 

 

--

In the practice of popular religion, a divine authority is established

outside of one's being. In the real practice of deep spirituality, one

realizes the divinity within oneself; there is no real separation between

the universal nature and one's divine nature.

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dear Olusanya,

 

The point is that if you're using a Jaimini rasi dasa then (only) is

it appropriate to use rasi aspects and chara karakas. If you follow

the vimsottari system it's appropriate to use graha aspects and

natural (permanent) karakas. It's a huge mistake to mix the two

systems.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"Olusanya Bey" <olusanya

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:25 AM

Re: Rahu as Amatyakaraka?

 

 

Hari Om Wendy,

 

I use Vimsottari dasa. Are you asking what rasi and graha drishtis

for Rahu?

 

 

RAHU Kanya, Surya 2nd House

Dhanus, Shani 5th House

Kumbha, Ketu 7th House

Mesha 9th House

 

The Rasi drishtis are Simha, Thula and Makara [i think thats all of

them].

 

Thanks Much

Namaste,

olusanya

 

On 2/13/06, Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

BTW I adhere to the rule that the nodes cast no aspect. As a matter

of interest can you show me (use any chart) the effect of 7th nodal

aspect i.e., mutual aspect between Rahu and Ketu.

______________________________

 

-

"Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:51 AM

Re: Rahu as Amatyakaraka?

 

 

Dear Olusanya,

 

The point is that if you're using a Jaimini rasi dasa then (only) is

it appropriate to use rasi aspects and chara karakas. If you follow

the vimsottari system it's appropriate to use graha aspects and

natural (permanent) karakas. It's a huge mistake to mix the two

systems.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

 

-

"Olusanya Bey" <olusanya

<jyotish-vidya>

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:25 AM

Re: Rahu as Amatyakaraka?

 

 

Hari Om Wendy,

 

I use Vimsottari dasa. Are you asking what rasi and graha drishtis

for Rahu?

 

 

RAHU Kanya, Surya 2nd House

Dhanus, Shani 5th House

Kumbha, Ketu 7th House

Mesha 9th House

 

The Rasi drishtis are Simha, Thula and Makara [i think thats all of

them].

 

Thanks Much

Namaste,

olusanya

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hari Om Wendy,

 

I have read where you make the point of not mixing the two systems, I will

keep this in mind.

In my reading of the BPHS in chapter 32 Parasara speaks about 8 Chara

Karakas before mentioning the Constant Karakatwas, and it is my

understanding that Parasara preferred the Vimsottari dasa system. Am I

incorrect?

 

Namaste,

olusanya

 

On 2/13/06, Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Olusanya,

>

> The point is that if you're using a Jaimini rasi dasa then (only) is

> it appropriate to use rasi aspects and chara karakas. If you follow

> the vimsottari system it's appropriate to use graha aspects and

> natural (permanent) karakas. It's a huge mistake to mix the two

> systems.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "Olusanya Bey" <olusanya

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:25 AM

> Re: Rahu as Amatyakaraka?

>

>

> Hari Om Wendy,

>

> I use Vimsottari dasa. Are you asking what rasi and graha drishtis

> for Rahu?

>

>

> RAHU Kanya, Surya 2nd House

> Dhanus, Shani 5th House

> Kumbha, Ketu 7th House

> Mesha 9th House

>

> The Rasi drishtis are Simha, Thula and Makara [i think thats all of

> them].

>

> Thanks Much

> Namaste,

> olusanya

>

> On 2/13/06, Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> Astrology

chart</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=\

Vedic+astrology&w3=Personal+reading&c=3&s=64&.sig=yoswT0XE-vB9llMiB1sT1Q> Vedic

>

astrology</gads?t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart\

&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Personal+reading&c=3&s=64&.sig=_51dCbxdai4uLT_0QkDkQQ>

Personal

>

reading</gads?t=ms&k=Personal+reading&w1=Astrology+chart&\

w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Personal+reading&c=3&s=64&.sig=tMlZMzSPyuffO0tEMLYpFg>

> ------------------------------

>

>

>

> - Visit your group

"jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>"

> on the web.

>

> -

>

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya- (AT) (DOT) \

com?subject=Un>

>

> - Terms of

> Service <>.

>

>

> ------------------------------

>

 

 

 

--

In the practice of popular religion, a divine authority is established

outside of one's being. In the real practice of deep spirituality, one

realizes the divinity within oneself; there is no real separation between

the universal nature and one's divine nature.

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hari Om Wendy,

 

I am a beginner to jyotish, so I am still learning to understand the

drishtis. I am here to learn and all references I make are from the

literature I have read thus far, as well as answers given to me by

practicing astrologers.

as I become more familiar with the different schools of thought I will

settle on what I think works best for me. Until then I will ask questions

and weigh the answers given according to my degree of understanding.

 

Namaste,

olusanya

 

On 2/13/06, Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

>

> BTW I adhere to the rule that the nodes cast no aspect. As a matter

> of interest can you show me (use any chart) the effect of 7th nodal

> aspect i.e., mutual aspect between Rahu and Ketu.

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:51 AM

> Re: Rahu as Amatyakaraka?

>

>

> Dear Olusanya,

>

> The point is that if you're using a Jaimini rasi dasa then (only) is

> it appropriate to use rasi aspects and chara karakas. If you follow

> the vimsottari system it's appropriate to use graha aspects and

> natural (permanent) karakas. It's a huge mistake to mix the two

> systems.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> -

> "Olusanya Bey" <olusanya

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:25 AM

> Re: Rahu as Amatyakaraka?

>

>

> Hari Om Wendy,

>

> I use Vimsottari dasa. Are you asking what rasi and graha drishtis

> for Rahu?

>

>

> RAHU Kanya, Surya 2nd House

> Dhanus, Shani 5th House

> Kumbha, Ketu 7th House

> Mesha 9th House

>

> The Rasi drishtis are Simha, Thula and Makara [i think thats all of

> them].

>

> Thanks Much

> Namaste,

> olusanya

>

>

>

>

>

> Astrology

chart</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=\

Vedic+astrology&w3=Personal+reading&c=3&s=64&.sig=yoswT0XE-vB9llMiB1sT1Q> Vedic

>

astrology</gads?t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart\

&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Personal+reading&c=3&s=64&.sig=_51dCbxdai4uLT_0QkDkQQ>

Personal

>

reading</gads?t=ms&k=Personal+reading&w1=Astrology+chart&\

w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Personal+reading&c=3&s=64&.sig=tMlZMzSPyuffO0tEMLYpFg>

> ------------------------------

>

>

>

> - Visit your group

"jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya>"

> on the web.

>

> -

>

jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya- (AT) (DOT) \

com?subject=Un>

>

> - Terms of

> Service <>.

>

>

> ------------------------------

>

 

 

 

--

In the practice of popular religion, a divine authority is established

outside of one's being. In the real practice of deep spirituality, one

realizes the divinity within oneself; there is no real separation between

the universal nature and one's divine nature.

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Namaste

 

The system that JHora uses in this calcuation is to subtract the

degree of Rahu from 30 degrees, because Rahu traverses thought the

constellations backwards. In other words, even though Rahu is at ~2

degrees in the sign, it has already traversed ~28 degrees through the

sign. Therefor, according to this system it has the 2nd highest

degree and is said to be Amatyakaraka.

 

I have to say that as a fellow beginner I think it is better to stick

to one system. Don't shop around for too long, otherwise you won't

have time to really get a deep understanding of any one system. I

agree with what Wendy has suggested to you.

 

Take it easy,

Sean

 

jyotish-vidya, "olu_bey" <olusanya wrote:

>

> Hari Om,

>

> According to Jhora Rahu is my Amatyakaraka. This has me perplexed

> because I thought the Amatyakaraka is the graha with the next

highest

> longitude after the Atmakaraka [shani], so why is the Amatyakaraka

not

> Shukra. After Rahu all of the Chara Karakas seem to follow according

> to the degrees of Longitude. Am I missing something here?

> My birth data is:

>

> Olusanya Bey

> September 28, 1961

> Time: 8:20:00 am

> Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)

> Place: 77 W 25' 50", 34 N 45' 14"

> Jacksonville, North Carolina, USA

> Altitude: 15.00 meters

>

>

> Planet Longitude Chara Karakatwa

> Surya 11 Kanya 51' 24.81" Matrikaraka

> Chandra 6 Vrish 00' 54.12" Putrakaraka

> Mangala 4 Tula 28' 39.52" Gnyatikaraka

> Budha 7 Tula 43' 05.13" Pitrikaraka

> Guru 4 Makar 02' 14.56" Darakaraka

> Shukra 12 Simh 38' 58.15" Bhratrikaraka

> Shani 29 Dhanu 54' 59.50" Atmakaraka

> Rahu 1 Simh 41' 41.76" Amatyakaraka

>

> bahu dhanyavAdAH.

>

> Namaste,

> olusanya

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hari Om Sean,

 

Thank you for your clarification! At this point I use one source of

reference in my studies, that is the BHPS. The Chara Karakas are

Parasara's first reference to Karakas, that is why I asked a question

about them. Until Wendy's reference to the Jaimini system I have never

thought about that particular system.

I realize that different practitioners of Jyotish have their

preferences, that is why I stick to the BPHS as my main source of

information, it is also why I use Vimsottari dasa as opposed to the

many other dasa systems.

My question remains... if Parasara and Jaimini are, in fact, two

different systems why does Parasara mention Chara Karakas before the

Constant Karakatwas when discussing Karakas? Why would he explain

another system before his own? Keep in mind... this wasn't a question

for me until Wendy's response.

I agree that as beginners we should focus our study. My focus is the

BPHS and the teachings of Maharishi Parasara.

 

Namaste,

olusanya

 

_____________

 

On 2/14/06, Sean Patrick Kelly <toosean wrote:

> Namaste

>

> The system that JHora uses in this calcuation is to subtract the

> degree of Rahu from 30 degrees, because Rahu traverses thought the

> constellations backwards. In other words, even though Rahu is at ~2

> degrees in the sign, it has already traversed ~28 degrees through the

> sign. Therefor, according to this system it has the 2nd highest

> degree and is said to be Amatyakaraka.

>

> I have to say that as a fellow beginner I think it is better to stick

> to one system. Don't shop around for too long, otherwise you won't

> have time to really get a deep understanding of any one system. I

> agree with what Wendy has suggested to you.

>

> Take it easy,

> Sean

>

> jyotish-vidya, "olu_bey" <olusanya wrote:

> >

> > Hari Om,

> >

> > According to Jhora Rahu is my Amatyakaraka. This has me perplexed

> > because I thought the Amatyakaraka is the graha with the next

> highest

> > longitude after the Atmakaraka [shani], so why is the Amatyakaraka

> not

> > Shukra. After Rahu all of the Chara Karakas seem to follow according

> > to the degrees of Longitude. Am I missing something here?

> > My birth data is:

> >

> > Olusanya Bey

> > September 28, 1961

> > Time: 8:20:00 am

> > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)

> > Place: 77 W 25' 50", 34 N 45' 14"

> > Jacksonville, North Carolina, USA

> > Altitude: 15.00 meters

> >

> >

> > Planet Longitude Chara Karakatwa

> > Surya 11 Kanya 51' 24.81" Matrikaraka

> > Chandra 6 Vrish 00' 54.12" Putrakaraka

> > Mangala 4 Tula 28' 39.52" Gnyatikaraka

> > Budha 7 Tula 43' 05.13" Pitrikaraka

> > Guru 4 Makar 02' 14.56" Darakaraka

> > Shukra 12 Simh 38' 58.15" Bhratrikaraka

> > Shani 29 Dhanu 54' 59.50" Atmakaraka

> > Rahu 1 Simh 41' 41.76" Amatyakaraka

> >

> > bahu dhanyavAdAH.

> >

> > Namaste,

> > olusanya

> >

>

 

> Astrology chart Vedic astrology Personal reading

>

> ________________________________

>

>

>

> Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web.

>

>

> jyotish-vidya

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

 

 

--

In the practice of popular religion, a divine authority is established

outside of one's being. In the real practice of deep spirituality, one

realizes the divinity within oneself; there is no real separation

between the universal nature and one's divine nature.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

jyotish-vidya, Olusanya Bey <olusanya

<snip>

> My question remains... if Parasara and Jaimini are, in fact, two

> different systems why does Parasara mention Chara Karakas before the

> Constant Karakatwas when discussing Karakas? Why would he explain

> another system before his own?

 

Namaste

 

This is a question for me too -- one of the members mentioned

something along the lines that Jaimini and other systems have crept

into BPHS over the years. I certainly do not have the details or

verification that this is indeed true. But I do notice that in

sections the writing style seems to be inconsistent -- of course, that

could be the translation as well.

 

Take it easy,

Sean

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dear Sean and Olusanya,

 

Perhaps I can clear the muddy waters a bit :-)

 

Olusanya Wrote:

//My question remains... if Parasara and Jaimini are, in fact, two

different systems why does Parasara mention Chara Karakas before the

Constant Karakatwas when discussing Karakas? Why would he explain

another system before his own? Keep in mind... this wasn't a question

for me until Wendy's response.

I agree that as beginners we should focus our study. My focus is the

BPHS and the teachings of Maharishi Parasara.//

 

Sean Wrote:

//This is a question for me too -- one of the members mentioned

something along the lines that Jaimini and other systems have crept

into BPHS over the years. I certainly do not have the details or

verification that this is indeed true. But I do notice that in

sections the writing style seems to be inconsistent -- of course,

that

could be the translation as well.//

 

My Response:

As we know, the dasa system is the principle method of

prediction...this is how we determine when karma will fructify. There

are several dasa systems but the one recommended by Parashara to be

most effective for the general population in Kali Yuga is the

Vimsottari dasa. In this system, starting from the nakshatra lord,

each graha follows in a certain sequence for a certain length of

time. We should be able to understand quite easily why, in this

(graha specific) system, graha aspects and constant karakas are

employed.

 

Other major dasa systems employed are the Chara dasas which are

recommended by Jaimini and also included in BPHS. These dasas are

based on the Rasis (signs). One doesn't need to be a rocket scientist

to understand that Rasi aspects and Chara karakas are used with this

system.

 

Rather than argueing endlessly which is Parashara and which is

Jaimini it would be much simpler if we just remembered that

Vimsottari dasa is recommended by Parashara and the Chara dasas are

recommended by Jaimini.

 

People are free to use whatever dasa system they choose. The big

mistake I see happening (all the time) is mixing the two together.

 

THEY ARE SEPERATE SYSTEMS EACH WITH THEIR OWN UNIQUE RULES!!

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sir,

Learned Seers initially therfore intended to make jyotish as precise as

possible and would not like to to accord status of planet to nodes.In

all their calculations particularly in Shadbal and in others approved for seven

planets.it is not that they rule out influences of upagrahas on the

life.Ceratinly you are right to obseve in saying better not shop around but go

by any particular school of thought.Also in jyotish the vital aspect is that not

one single factor make or mar things.one needs to look into counter balancing

factors and find the science to deliver a message.Be it freewill or

presetined.So rahu as Atmakarak based on highest degrees even though consider

mean values) has limited application and no harm/imbalance in accpeting a school

of thought and tread further into various other aspects

krishnan

 

Sean Patrick Kelly <toosean wrote:

Namaste

 

The system that JHora uses in this calcuation is to subtract the

degree of Rahu from 30 degrees, because Rahu traverses thought the

constellations backwards. In other words, even though Rahu is at ~2

degrees in the sign, it has already traversed ~28 degrees through the

sign. Therefor, according to this system it has the 2nd highest

degree and is said to be Amatyakaraka.

 

I have to say that as a fellow beginner I think it is better to stick

to one system. Don't shop around for too long, otherwise you won't

have time to really get a deep understanding of any one system. I

agree with what Wendy has suggested to you.

 

Take it easy,

Sean

 

jyotish-vidya, "olu_bey" <olusanya wrote:

>

> Hari Om,

>

> According to Jhora Rahu is my Amatyakaraka. This has me perplexed

> because I thought the Amatyakaraka is the graha with the next

highest

> longitude after the Atmakaraka [shani], so why is the Amatyakaraka

not

> Shukra. After Rahu all of the Chara Karakas seem to follow according

> to the degrees of Longitude. Am I missing something here?

> My birth data is:

>

> Olusanya Bey

> September 28, 1961

> Time: 8:20:00 am

> Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)

> Place: 77 W 25' 50", 34 N 45' 14"

> Jacksonville, North Carolina, USA

> Altitude: 15.00 meters

>

>

> Planet Longitude Chara Karakatwa

> Surya 11 Kanya 51' 24.81" Matrikaraka

> Chandra 6 Vrish 00' 54.12" Putrakaraka

> Mangala 4 Tula 28' 39.52" Gnyatikaraka

> Budha 7 Tula 43' 05.13" Pitrikaraka

> Guru 4 Makar 02' 14.56" Darakaraka

> Shukra 12 Simh 38' 58.15" Bhratrikaraka

> Shani 29 Dhanu 54' 59.50" Atmakaraka

> Rahu 1 Simh 41' 41.76" Amatyakaraka

>

> bahu dhanyavAdAH.

>

> Namaste,

> olusanya

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

Astrology chart Vedic astrology Personal reading

 

 

 

 

Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web.

 

jyotish-vidya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brings words and photos together (easily) with

PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

PS:

//People are free to use whatever dasa system they choose. The big

mistake I see happening (all the time) is mixing the two together.//

 

Meaning simply that it's inappropriate to use Rasi aspects or Chara

karakas with Vimsottari dasa...

 

BPHS is a composite of all the different dasa systems and the many

other tools of prediction known to the ancient rishis. The Vimsottari

dasa system itself is a very simple (stand alone) method of

prediction that has (unfortunately) been complicated by the emerging

internet Gurus who can't tell the difference between one system and

another. This is the state of affairs today...

 

Why do you suppose Parashara said that Vimsottari was recommended for

the general population in this age of Kali Yuga? This age is

characterised by heaviness - heaviness of mind, unclear thinking - so

much so that the majority of people cannot fully comprehend the

simple, stand alone system recommended by Parashara. Vimsottari is so

pure, so uncomplicated :-)

______

 

Dear Sean and Olusanya,

 

Perhaps I can clear the muddy waters a bit :-)

 

Olusanya Wrote:

//My question remains... if Parasara and Jaimini are, in fact, two

different systems why does Parasara mention Chara Karakas before the

Constant Karakatwas when discussing Karakas? Why would he explain

another system before his own? Keep in mind... this wasn't a question

for me until Wendy's response.

I agree that as beginners we should focus our study. My focus is the

BPHS and the teachings of Maharishi Parasara.//

 

Sean Wrote:

//This is a question for me too -- one of the members mentioned

something along the lines that Jaimini and other systems have crept

into BPHS over the years. I certainly do not have the details or

verification that this is indeed true. But I do notice that in

sections the writing style seems to be inconsistent -- of course,

that could be the translation as well.//

 

My Response:

As we know, the dasa system is the principle method of

prediction...this is how we determine when karma will fructify. There

are several dasa systems but the one recommended by Parashara to be

most effective for the general population in Kali Yuga is the

Vimsottari dasa. In this system, starting from the nakshatra lord,

each graha follows in a certain sequence for a certain length of

time. We should be able to understand quite easily why, in this

(graha specific) system, graha aspects and constant karakas are

employed.

 

Other major dasa systems employed are the Chara dasas which are

recommended by Jaimini and also included in BPHS. These dasas are

based on the Rasis (signs). One doesn't need to be a rocket scientist

to understand that Rasi aspects and Chara karakas are used with this

system.

 

Rather than argueing endlessly which is Parashara and which is

Jaimini it would be much simpler if we just remembered that

Vimsottari dasa is recommended by Parashara and the Chara dasas are

recommended by Jaimini.

 

People are free to use whatever dasa system they choose. The big

mistake I see happening (all the time) is mixing the two together.

 

THEY ARE SEPERATE SYSTEMS EACH WITH THEIR OWN UNIQUE RULES!!

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...