Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Hi all I want to analyse a medical problem known as "osteoporosis" astrologically. Osteoporosis is the silent disease that makes bones prone to fracture.In this, bones become fragile and more likely to break. If not prevented or if left untreated, osteoporosis can progress painlessly until a bone breaks. It is proved that women are four times more likely than men to develop the disease. astrologically, Sun is related to bones. Can we think of something else astrologically responsible for this disease.Apart from taking medicines, what can be done astrologically to prevent this disease. i do not have birth details of the person wrt to whom i m asking this question. If the person performs surya namaskar everyday, will it help in some way. pls note that person is female in this case. thanks angel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 It has been my experience that 'saturn' rules the 'bones'. Of course, a strongly placed sun determines the vitality of the individual,...but saturn has alot to do with osteoporosis from the many charts that I have analysed medically. georgette angel <angelgoel wrote: Hi all I want to analyse a medical problem known as "osteoporosis" astrologically. Osteoporosis is the silent disease that makes bones prone to fracture.In this, bones become fragile and more likely to break. If not prevented or if left untreated, osteoporosis can progress painlessly until a bone breaks. It is proved that women are four times more likely than men to develop the disease. astrologically, Sun is related to bones. Can we think of something else astrologically responsible for this disease.Apart from taking medicines, what can be done astrologically to prevent this disease. i do not have birth details of the person wrt to whom i m asking this question. If the person performs surya namaskar everyday, will it help in some way. pls note that person is female in this case. thanks angel Georgette Young, L.Ac., Dipl.O.M. Board Certified in Oriental Medicine www.energetic-medicine.com 858-212-4004 San Diego, CA 480-612-1104 Carefree, AZ Mailing Address: P.O. Box 3314 Carefree, AZ 85377 Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Dear Angel, Georgette and All, The seven bodily tissues (sapta dhatus) that form the building blocks for all bodily structures are (from Sun to Saturn) Bones, Blood, Marrow, Skin, Semen and Muscles. This is established in Ayurveda and also spoken of by Parashara; CH 3. 31. The simplest remedy by far is adequate exposure to Sun, i.e. 15-20 mins per day (at least). This simple knowledge has been passed down from mothers for many generations (folk lore). However today, with so many spending their days (sunlight hours), in shops, offices and factories, the incidence of osteoporosis has risen dramatically. Even those who stay at home are spending more and more time indoors in front of computers, television and play stations (popular with the young). Human kind seems to more and more separate from the natural world and we suffer accordingly. Folk lore also speaks of the benefit gained from taking a leisurely stroll under the moonlight. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Georgette" <georgetteyoung <jyotish-vidya> Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:38 PM Re: osteoporosis and astrology - medical astrology It has been my experience that 'saturn' rules the 'bones'. Of course, a strongly placed sun determines the vitality of the individual,...but saturn has alot to do with osteoporosis from the many charts that I have analysed medically. georgette angel <angelgoel wrote: Hi all I want to analyse a medical problem known as "osteoporosis" astrologically. Osteoporosis is the silent disease that makes bones prone to fracture.In this, bones become fragile and more likely to break. If not prevented or if left untreated, osteoporosis can progress painlessly until a bone breaks. It is proved that women are four times more likely than men to develop the disease. astrologically, Sun is related to bones. Can we think of something else astrologically responsible for this disease.Apart from taking medicines, what can be done astrologically to prevent this disease. i do not have birth details of the person wrt to whom i m asking this question. If the person performs surya namaskar everyday, will it help in some way. pls note that person is female in this case. thanks angel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 dear wendy ji,Georgette ji and all others thanks for your input on this matter. thanks angel --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Angel, Georgette and All, > > The seven bodily tissues (sapta dhatus) that form > the building blocks > for all bodily structures are (from Sun to Saturn) > Bones, Blood, > Marrow, Skin, Semen and Muscles. > > This is established in Ayurveda and also spoken of > by Parashara; CH > 3. 31. > > The simplest remedy by far is adequate exposure to > Sun, i.e. 15-20 > mins per day (at least). This simple knowledge has > been passed down > from mothers for many generations (folk lore). > However today, with so > many spending their days (sunlight hours), in shops, > offices and > factories, the incidence of osteoporosis has risen > dramatically. Even > those who stay at home are spending more and more > time indoors in > front of computers, television and play stations > (popular with the > young). Human kind seems to more and more separate > from the natural > world and we suffer accordingly. Folk lore also > speaks of the benefit > gained from taking a leisurely stroll under the > moonlight. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "Georgette" <georgetteyoung > <jyotish-vidya> > Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:38 PM > Re: osteoporosis and > astrology - medical > astrology > > > It has been my experience that 'saturn' rules the > 'bones'. Of > course, a strongly placed sun determines the > vitality of the > individual,...but saturn has alot to do with > osteoporosis from the > many charts that I have analysed medically. > > georgette > > angel <angelgoel wrote: > Hi all > > I want to analyse a medical problem known as > "osteoporosis" astrologically. > > Osteoporosis is the silent disease that makes bones > prone to fracture.In this, bones become fragile and > more likely to break. If not prevented or if left > untreated, osteoporosis can progress painlessly > until > a bone breaks. > > It is proved that women are four times more likely > than men to develop the disease. > > astrologically, Sun is related to bones. > > Can we think of something else astrologically > responsible for this disease.Apart from taking > medicines, what can be done astrologically to > prevent > this disease. i do not have birth details of the > person wrt to whom i m asking this question. > > If the person performs surya namaskar everyday, will > it help in some way. > > pls note that person is female in this case. > > thanks > angel > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM > --~-> > > > > Links > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 To All, If I may add my 2 cents from experience. I am female. I have Saturn in the first house Virgo. I have Sun in the eleventh house Cancer. I have Rahu in the sixth house Aquarius I have Lagnesh Lord Mercury in the twelfth house Leo. I grew up in a very Sun oriented household. In other words, not one of my siblings or I were allowed to sleep in on days off from school or stay put in front of the TV or any other indoor pursuit. WE were all booted out of bed at a very precise time every morning or were self-up and going and doing and being everyday. Outside actions in the Sun were a must and way of life. Healthy too to burn off a lot of excess children's energy in a healthy matter rather than fighting like cats and dogs inside or driving my mother up a wall. There were six of us in 7 1/2 yrs. I spent walking the golf course in Junior Golf league and then adult league from the time I was 10 through 32 years old. I loved the Sun and the warm days and walking the green fairways in a wooded surrounding. To me it was a peaceful retreat from the world and self-invigorating to my physical body as well as spiritually, whether I was on the course alone practicing or in competition. I even loved the practicing putting green and then the pleasure of showering in the clubhouse and relaxing on the veranda. Therefore, I cannot from my perspective blame the Sun's placement or the Saturn in lst or even Rahu in sixth as the culprit. I have seen these kinds of placements in other charts to know that not one of them have bone problems. HOWEVER, having Saturn conj Asc with Lagnesh Mercury in twelfth Leo ruled by Sun - now there is a plausibility. And, a reality to my own experience. Since I was a young child, I complained of bone and back pain. It was thought at the time to be just growing pains. When I was eleven yrs old, I was in ballet (which I just adored) and it was my ballet teacher who eventually phoned my mother and asked her to take me to the orthopedic doctor because I could not stand up straight in his class. Nor could I keep my balance like other dancers. It was found that I had what they presumed at the time in 1962 to be an idiopathic scoliosis of the lumbar and thoracic spine. Even though the S curve was at more than a 20 degree curve with a twisted sideways construction along with a congenital fused 5th lumbar intravertabrae - a spinal brace and surgery was not recommended to stop the curvature or support the spine, because the orthopedic doctor felt from the spine x-rays that I only had one more inch of growth to achieve. It was determined though, that the congenital intravertebrae fusion was the cause of me not walking until I was almost 16 months old. I loved dancing (all kinds) too, but had to give it up in Junior year of H.S. because my bones could not take the stress of practicing or performing any longer. Through the years, I suffered greatly and having children only complicated the curvature. In fact, for other reasons, there was a almost nine year difference in my children's ages and in the interval I was advised by a top spinal surgeon not to have any more children. Well guess what. I got pregnant. By the time my youngest child turned 5yrs old, I was 39yrs old. By then it was determined that I had Adult scoliosis with congenital arthritic changes probably due to an autoimmune disease. I had major Spinal surgery for a continual curvature to my spine. The idea was to stop the curve and support the spine. By now, the curve in the thoracic spine was affecting my heart and lungs. I was measuring more than 50 degrees at the lower lumbar region, 30 plus degrees at the thoracic level and 17 degrees up into my skull. It was a single posterior surgical procedure of 16 hours. I was fused with instrumentation from my lower wingspan down to L4, which is the lower part of the spine just before the L5 where most if not all of the flexibility in ones movement stems from. During surgery, my spine proved to be in worse shape than even the latest technology of Spine CT's and MRI's could show. To continue this saga a little longer to get my point across - I was in a three-year recovery plan. The first 15 months I was incased in a plastic fiberglass torso body cast. At 30 months, I had to have surgery again because not only did the instrument (rods) fail and break at the L3/4, but it was found in surgery that one of the main pedicle screws where the rods broke was imbedded in the spine where it could not be removed - along with finding I had fractured bilaterally at the thoracic level, behind the rods, two vertebrae because of thinning and porous bones. This time, all the rods came out and then I was refused where the fractures were, then re-rodded for support from my upper wingspan down to L4. I not only wore a torso plastic fiber cast for 17 months but also for 8 months wore an additional electric stimulation vest over my cast to stimulate bone healing. 21/2 yrs later, I was back in surgery for a lamenectomy and disectomy at L5/S1, which is located in the lower lumbar area for flexibility and entering into the sacral area. It was right underneath my rods and previous fusions. Within 4 weeks, I was back in the hospital on emergency with Bacterial Spinal meningitis from the spinal surgery, which had punctured the inner spinal column where spinal fluid was leaking and causing the meningitis. Now, in the meantime, the rest of my body was bone wise deteriorating. I had bone surgeries twice on my foot, tailbone and additional teeth surgery ( Wisdom - imbedded and impacted) along with a lot of arthritic changes in my knees, wrists, ankles and neck. By the time 1997 came around through 1999 after spending more hours than I care to try and add up in the dental chair since I was 20 years old, I had nine dental implants surgically placed with a bite change to lessen the TMJ and arthritic degeneration in my jaw joints, along with having every single one of my teeth root canalled (those that had not been done before) along with reshaping and capping every single tooth in my mouth. In 1999 CT scans showed severe osteoarthritis throughout my whole body. Today, I have severe osteoporosis in my upper thoracic area (Above the rods and fusion) into my neck and upper arms due to continual bone thinning. I also have pain in my shinbones and forearms due to thinning and porous bones. There is not much one can due when osteoporosis takes it hold or osteoarthritis either. There are calcium and other minerals to help keep the bones as healthy as possible, but there is nothing that prevents the disintegration once it starts. Surgery helps support fractures but there are a slew of downs sides to spinal bone surgery with instrumentation. Nothing is perfect or last forever. Bone surgeries of the spine are temporary fixes at best where multiple revision surgeries are often needed with their many complications, long recoveries and severe pain.. I have needed two Revision surgeries since 2000. I have turned the complicated procedures down as of date. The reason. The rest of my health would not support these two surgeries or its 3/4 year recovery - that is if the surgeries did not fail (which is a high risk) where Degenerative Disk Disease is prevalent and surgery is required to fused down to the tail bone for stenosis and arthritic changes. I have included my birth data below for those who would want to compare this chart for its chronic health problems and bone disease that has been with me since I was born. I would say that some things are fated. But, it is how we manage the fatedness that can be altered to give some relief and comfort – no matter how small or minor. However, chronic illnesses and bone diseases with their chronic pain are one kind of suffering reflected in the body where there are other kinds of suffering that I cannot even imagine experiencing. Ruler Sun of the Twelfth Leo with Lagnesh Mercury placed there, along with Saturn conj Asc in Virgo sure is a negative culprit if not the cause of decline on the body of a person. I would include the skeleton structure of the body, being bones. Of course, as usual, I stand corrected if I am incorrect and would appreciate being enlightened otherwise. If nothing else, It makes for good chart study – of course in its own due time and schedule for group study! As Always, Uttara :-) 7/28/1951 10:14am (CDT) Chicago, Illinois USA Virgo Asc: 3* Saturn in lagna 5* Lagnesh ruler in twelfth house Leo/Sun jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Angel, Georgette and All, > > The seven bodily tissues (sapta dhatus) that form the building blocks > for all bodily structures are (from Sun to Saturn) Bones, Blood, > Marrow, Skin, Semen and Muscles. > > This is established in Ayurveda and also spoken of by Parashara; CH > 3. 31. > > The simplest remedy by far is adequate exposure to Sun, i.e. 15-20 > mins per day (at least). This simple knowledge has been passed down > from mothers for many generations (folk lore). However today, with so > many spending their days (sunlight hours), in shops, offices and > factories, the incidence of osteoporosis has risen dramatically. Even > those who stay at home are spending more and more time indoors in > front of computers, television and play stations (popular with the > young). Human kind seems to more and more separate from the natural > world and we suffer accordingly. Folk lore also speaks of the benefit > gained from taking a leisurely stroll under the moonlight. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "Georgette" <georgetteyoung > <jyotish-vidya> > Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:38 PM > Re: osteoporosis and astrology - medical > astrology > > > It has been my experience that 'saturn' rules the 'bones'. Of > course, a strongly placed sun determines the vitality of the > individual,...but saturn has alot to do with osteoporosis from the > many charts that I have analysed medically. > > georgette > > angel <angelgoel wrote: > Hi all > > I want to analyse a medical problem known as > "osteoporosis" astrologically. > > Osteoporosis is the silent disease that makes bones > prone to fracture.In this, bones become fragile and > more likely to break. If not prevented or if left > untreated, osteoporosis can progress painlessly until > a bone breaks. > > It is proved that women are four times more likely > than men to develop the disease. > > astrologically, Sun is related to bones. > > Can we think of something else astrologically > responsible for this disease.Apart from taking > medicines, what can be done astrologically to prevent > this disease. i do not have birth details of the > person wrt to whom i m asking this question. > > If the person performs surya namaskar everyday, will > it help in some way. > > pls note that person is female in this case. > > thanks > angel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Dear Uttara, //Therefore, I cannot from my perspective blame the Sun's placement or the Saturn in lst or even Rahu in sixth as the culprit. I have seen these kinds of placements in other charts to know that not one of them have bone problems. HOWEVER, having Saturn conj Asc with Lagnesh Mercury in twelfth Leo ruled by Sun - now there is a plausibility. And, a reality to my own experience.// Your (particular) health problems are not difficult to understand with 6th lord Saturn in lagna occupying nakshatra of Sun whilst Sun, dispositor of lagna lord, occupies nakshatra of Saturn etc.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "muttaraphalguni" <muttaraphalguni <jyotish-vidya> Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:38 PM Re: osteoporosis and astrology - medical astrology To All, If I may add my 2 cents from experience. I am female. I have Saturn in the first house Virgo. I have Sun in the eleventh house Cancer. I have Rahu in the sixth house Aquarius I have Lagnesh Lord Mercury in the twelfth house Leo. I grew up in a very Sun oriented household. In other words, not one of my siblings or I were allowed to sleep in on days off from school or stay put in front of the TV or any other indoor pursuit. WE were all booted out of bed at a very precise time every morning or were self-up and going and doing and being everyday. Outside actions in the Sun were a must and way of life. Healthy too to burn off a lot of excess children's energy in a healthy matter rather than fighting like cats and dogs inside or driving my mother up a wall. There were six of us in 7 1/2 yrs. I spent walking the golf course in Junior Golf league and then adult league from the time I was 10 through 32 years old. I loved the Sun and the warm days and walking the green fairways in a wooded surrounding. To me it was a peaceful retreat from the world and self-invigorating to my physical body as well as spiritually, whether I was on the course alone practicing or in competition. I even loved the practicing putting green and then the pleasure of showering in the clubhouse and relaxing on the veranda. Therefore, I cannot from my perspective blame the Sun's placement or the Saturn in lst or even Rahu in sixth as the culprit. I have seen these kinds of placements in other charts to know that not one of them have bone problems. HOWEVER, having Saturn conj Asc with Lagnesh Mercury in twelfth Leo ruled by Sun - now there is a plausibility. And, a reality to my own experience. Since I was a young child, I complained of bone and back pain. It was thought at the time to be just growing pains. When I was eleven yrs old, I was in ballet (which I just adored) and it was my ballet teacher who eventually phoned my mother and asked her to take me to the orthopedic doctor because I could not stand up straight in his class. Nor could I keep my balance like other dancers. It was found that I had what they presumed at the time in 1962 to be an idiopathic scoliosis of the lumbar and thoracic spine. Even though the S curve was at more than a 20 degree curve with a twisted sideways construction along with a congenital fused 5th lumbar intravertabrae - a spinal brace and surgery was not recommended to stop the curvature or support the spine, because the orthopedic doctor felt from the spine x-rays that I only had one more inch of growth to achieve. It was determined though, that the congenital intravertebrae fusion was the cause of me not walking until I was almost 16 months old. I loved dancing (all kinds) too, but had to give it up in Junior year of H.S. because my bones could not take the stress of practicing or performing any longer. Through the years, I suffered greatly and having children only complicated the curvature. In fact, for other reasons, there was a almost nine year difference in my children's ages and in the interval I was advised by a top spinal surgeon not to have any more children. Well guess what. I got pregnant. By the time my youngest child turned 5yrs old, I was 39yrs old. By then it was determined that I had Adult scoliosis with congenital arthritic changes probably due to an autoimmune disease. I had major Spinal surgery for a continual curvature to my spine. The idea was to stop the curve and support the spine. By now, the curve in the thoracic spine was affecting my heart and lungs. I was measuring more than 50 degrees at the lower lumbar region, 30 plus degrees at the thoracic level and 17 degrees up into my skull. It was a single posterior surgical procedure of 16 hours. I was fused with instrumentation from my lower wingspan down to L4, which is the lower part of the spine just before the L5 where most if not all of the flexibility in ones movement stems from. During surgery, my spine proved to be in worse shape than even the latest technology of Spine CT's and MRI's could show. To continue this saga a little longer to get my point across - I was in a three-year recovery plan. The first 15 months I was incased in a plastic fiberglass torso body cast. At 30 months, I had to have surgery again because not only did the instrument (rods) fail and break at the L3/4, but it was found in surgery that one of the main pedicle screws where the rods broke was imbedded in the spine where it could not be removed - along with finding I had fractured bilaterally at the thoracic level, behind the rods, two vertebrae because of thinning and porous bones. This time, all the rods came out and then I was refused where the fractures were, then re-rodded for support from my upper wingspan down to L4. I not only wore a torso plastic fiber cast for 17 months but also for 8 months wore an additional electric stimulation vest over my cast to stimulate bone healing. 21/2 yrs later, I was back in surgery for a lamenectomy and disectomy at L5/S1, which is located in the lower lumbar area for flexibility and entering into the sacral area. It was right underneath my rods and previous fusions. Within 4 weeks, I was back in the hospital on emergency with Bacterial Spinal meningitis from the spinal surgery, which had punctured the inner spinal column where spinal fluid was leaking and causing the meningitis. Now, in the meantime, the rest of my body was bone wise deteriorating. I had bone surgeries twice on my foot, tailbone and additional teeth surgery ( Wisdom - imbedded and impacted) along with a lot of arthritic changes in my knees, wrists, ankles and neck. By the time 1997 came around through 1999 after spending more hours than I care to try and add up in the dental chair since I was 20 years old, I had nine dental implants surgically placed with a bite change to lessen the TMJ and arthritic degeneration in my jaw joints, along with having every single one of my teeth root canalled (those that had not been done before) along with reshaping and capping every single tooth in my mouth. In 1999 CT scans showed severe osteoarthritis throughout my whole body. Today, I have severe osteoporosis in my upper thoracic area (Above the rods and fusion) into my neck and upper arms due to continual bone thinning. I also have pain in my shinbones and forearms due to thinning and porous bones. There is not much one can due when osteoporosis takes it hold or osteoarthritis either. There are calcium and other minerals to help keep the bones as healthy as possible, but there is nothing that prevents the disintegration once it starts. Surgery helps support fractures but there are a slew of downs sides to spinal bone surgery with instrumentation. Nothing is perfect or last forever. Bone surgeries of the spine are temporary fixes at best where multiple revision surgeries are often needed with their many complications, long recoveries and severe pain.. I have needed two Revision surgeries since 2000. I have turned the complicated procedures down as of date. The reason. The rest of my health would not support these two surgeries or its 3/4 year recovery - that is if the surgeries did not fail (which is a high risk) where Degenerative Disk Disease is prevalent and surgery is required to fused down to the tail bone for stenosis and arthritic changes. I have included my birth data below for those who would want to compare this chart for its chronic health problems and bone disease that has been with me since I was born. I would say that some things are fated. But, it is how we manage the fatedness that can be altered to give some relief and comfort - no matter how small or minor. However, chronic illnesses and bone diseases with their chronic pain are one kind of suffering reflected in the body where there are other kinds of suffering that I cannot even imagine experiencing. Ruler Sun of the Twelfth Leo with Lagnesh Mercury placed there, along with Saturn conj Asc in Virgo sure is a negative culprit if not the cause of decline on the body of a person. I would include the skeleton structure of the body, being bones. Of course, as usual, I stand corrected if I am incorrect and would appreciate being enlightened otherwise. If nothing else, It makes for good chart study - of course in its own due time and schedule for group study! As Always, Uttara :-) 7/28/1951 10:14am (CDT) Chicago, Illinois USA Virgo Asc: 3* Saturn in lagna 5* Lagnesh ruler in twelfth house Leo/Sun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Gad Wendy, your good and as always prove to be a learned jyotish. I forgot the nakshatras as you so correctly and wisely pointed out in a few short sentences. Of course, I opened my Nakshatra book to its beginning where I have everything marked for quick access and there it was - if the book were alive it would have bitten me :-) Amazing!! I need to create multiple copies of a check list to have near by, always. Missing details in a chart can really make huge errors. Close but not close enough to be dead on center shows sloppy work or incompetence. Thanks for your input. I'm still shaking my head that I forgot. That's why Jyotish-Vidya is so good!! Uttara :-) p.s. I am awake but need to be away from my desk til later. Thanks too Wendy, for being patient and reading through the long explanation/story. Along with your assessment, I hope it helps others in some way to better understand the causes of health issues. Happy Valentines Day, everyone!!! jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Uttara, > > //Therefore, I cannot from my perspective blame the Sun's placement > or > the Saturn in lst or even Rahu in sixth as the culprit. I have seen > these kinds of placements in other charts to know that not one of > them have bone problems. > HOWEVER, having Saturn conj Asc with Lagnesh Mercury in twelfth Leo > ruled by Sun - now there is a plausibility. And, a reality to my > own experience.// > > Your (particular) health problems are not difficult to understand > with 6th lord Saturn in lagna occupying nakshatra of Sun whilst Sun, > dispositor of lagna lord, occupies nakshatra of Saturn etc.. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "muttaraphalguni" <muttaraphalguni > <jyotish-vidya> > Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:38 PM > Re: osteoporosis and astrology - medical > astrology > > > To All, > > If I may add my 2 cents from experience. > > I am female. > I have Saturn in the first house Virgo. > I have Sun in the eleventh house Cancer. > I have Rahu in the sixth house Aquarius > I have Lagnesh Lord Mercury in the twelfth house Leo. > > I grew up in a very Sun oriented household. In other words, not one > of my siblings or I were allowed to sleep in on days off from school > or stay put in front of the TV or any other indoor pursuit. > > WE were all booted out of bed at a very precise time every morning > or were self-up and going and doing and being everyday. Outside > actions in the Sun were a must and way of life. Healthy too to burn > off a lot of excess children's energy in a healthy matter rather > than fighting like cats and dogs inside or driving my mother up a > wall. There were six of us in 7 1/2 yrs. > > I spent walking the golf course in Junior Golf league and then adult > league from the time I was 10 through 32 years old. I loved the Sun > and the warm days and walking the green fairways in a wooded > surrounding. To me it was a peaceful retreat from the world and > self-invigorating to my physical body as well as spiritually, > whether I was on the course alone practicing or in competition. I > even loved the practicing putting green and then the pleasure of > showering in the clubhouse and relaxing on the veranda. > > Therefore, I cannot from my perspective blame the Sun's placement or > the Saturn in lst or even Rahu in sixth as the culprit. I have seen > these kinds of placements in other charts to know that not one of > them have bone problems. > > HOWEVER, having Saturn conj Asc with Lagnesh Mercury in twelfth Leo > ruled by Sun - now there is a plausibility. And, a reality to my > own experience. > > Since I was a young child, I complained of bone and back pain. It > was thought at the time to be just growing pains. When I was eleven > yrs old, I was in ballet (which I just adored) and it was my ballet > teacher who eventually phoned my mother and asked her to take me to > the orthopedic doctor because I could not stand up straight in his > class. Nor could I keep my balance like other dancers. > > It was found that I had what they presumed at the time in 1962 to be > an idiopathic scoliosis of the lumbar and thoracic spine. Even > though the S curve was at more than a 20 degree curve with a twisted > sideways construction along with a congenital fused 5th lumbar > intravertabrae - a spinal brace and surgery was not recommended to > stop the curvature or support the spine, because the orthopedic > doctor felt from the spine x-rays that I only had one more inch of > growth to achieve. It was determined though, that the congenital > intravertebrae fusion was the cause of me not walking until I was > almost 16 months old. > > I loved dancing (all kinds) too, but had to give it up in Junior > year of H.S. because my bones could not take the stress of > practicing or performing any longer. > > Through the years, I suffered greatly and having children only > complicated the curvature. In fact, for other reasons, there was a > almost nine year difference in my children's ages and in the > interval I was advised by a top spinal surgeon not to have any more > children. Well guess what. I got pregnant. > > By the time my youngest child turned 5yrs old, I was 39yrs old. By > then it was determined that I had Adult scoliosis with congenital > arthritic changes probably due to an autoimmune disease. I had > major Spinal surgery for a continual curvature to my spine. The > idea was to stop the curve and support the spine. By now, the curve > in the thoracic spine was affecting my heart and lungs. I was > measuring more than 50 degrees at the lower lumbar region, 30 plus > degrees at the thoracic level and 17 degrees up into my skull. It > was a single posterior surgical procedure of 16 hours. I was fused > with instrumentation from my lower wingspan down to L4, which is the > lower part of the spine just before the L5 where most if not all of > the flexibility in ones movement stems from. During surgery, my > spine proved to be in worse shape than even the latest technology of > Spine CT's and MRI's could show. > > To continue this saga a little longer to get my point across - I was > in a three-year recovery plan. The first 15 months I was incased in > a plastic fiberglass torso body cast. At 30 months, I had to have > surgery again because not only did the instrument (rods) fail and > break at the L3/4, but it was found in surgery that one of the main > pedicle screws where the rods broke was imbedded in the spine where > it could not be removed - along with finding I had fractured > bilaterally at the thoracic level, behind the rods, two vertebrae > because of thinning and porous bones. > > This time, all the rods came out and then I was refused where the > fractures were, then re-rodded for support from my upper wingspan > down to L4. I not only wore a torso plastic fiber cast for 17 > months but also for 8 months wore an additional electric stimulation > vest over my cast to stimulate bone healing. > > 21/2 yrs later, I was back in surgery for a lamenectomy and > disectomy at L5/S1, which is located in the lower lumbar area for > flexibility and entering into the sacral area. It was right > underneath my rods and previous fusions. Within 4 weeks, I was back > in the hospital on emergency with Bacterial Spinal meningitis from > the spinal surgery, which had punctured the inner spinal column > where spinal fluid was leaking and causing the meningitis. > > Now, in the meantime, the rest of my body was bone wise > deteriorating. I had bone surgeries twice on my foot, tailbone and > additional teeth surgery ( Wisdom - imbedded and impacted) along > with a lot of arthritic changes in my knees, wrists, ankles and > neck. By the time 1997 came around through 1999 after spending more > hours than I care to try and add up in the dental chair since I was > 20 years old, I had nine dental implants surgically placed with a > bite change to lessen the TMJ and arthritic degeneration in my jaw > joints, along with having every single one of my teeth root canalled > (those that had not been done before) along with reshaping and > capping every single tooth in my mouth. In 1999 CT scans showed > severe osteoarthritis throughout my whole body. Today, I have severe > osteoporosis in my upper thoracic area (Above the rods and fusion) > into my neck and upper arms due to continual bone thinning. I also > have pain in my shinbones and forearms due to thinning and porous > bones. > > There is not much one can due when osteoporosis takes it hold or > osteoarthritis either. There are calcium and other minerals to help > keep the bones as healthy as possible, but there is nothing that > prevents the disintegration once it starts. Surgery helps support > fractures but there are a slew of downs sides to spinal bone surgery > with instrumentation. Nothing is perfect or last forever. Bone > surgeries of the spine are temporary fixes at best where multiple > revision surgeries are often needed with their many complications, > long recoveries and severe pain.. > > I have needed two Revision surgeries since 2000. I have turned the > complicated procedures down as of date. The reason. The rest of my > health would not support these two surgeries or its 3/4 year > recovery - that is if the surgeries did not fail (which is a high > risk) where Degenerative Disk Disease is prevalent and surgery is > required to fused down to the tail bone for stenosis and arthritic > changes. > > I have included my birth data below for those who would want to > compare this chart for its chronic health problems and bone disease > that has been with me since I was born. > > I would say that some things are fated. But, it is how we manage the > fatedness that can be altered to give some relief and comfort - no > matter how small or minor. However, chronic illnesses and bone > diseases with their chronic pain are one kind of suffering reflected > in the body where there are other kinds of suffering that I cannot > even imagine experiencing. > > Ruler Sun of the Twelfth Leo with Lagnesh Mercury placed there, > along with Saturn conj Asc in Virgo sure is a negative culprit if > not the cause of decline on the body of a person. I would include > the skeleton structure of the body, being bones. > > Of course, as usual, I stand corrected if I am incorrect and would > appreciate being enlightened otherwise. If nothing else, It makes > for good chart study - of course in its own due time and schedule > for group study! > > As Always, > > Uttara :-) > > 7/28/1951 > 10:14am (CDT) > Chicago, Illinois USA > > Virgo Asc: 3* > Saturn in lagna 5* > Lagnesh ruler in twelfth house Leo/Sun > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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