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Dear Sean,

Of course, I have no objection at all, in fact if you read my posting

earlier, to Neenaji, I have given my birth details.

Nalini

jyotish-vidya, "muttaraphalguni"

<muttaraphalguni wrote:

>

> Namaste Sean,

>

> Nice to see you here and your recent comments.

>

> May I take this time to advocate for myself in light of your

recent

> commentary.

>

> I too, put in a lot of time and effort to study a chart and

humbily

> offer my overall observations. But, I am not one to arbitarily

> discuss or pronounce an accusation. As far as the recent chart

that

> has brought much recent commentary, I have stated my positiion as

> others, on having personal contact with this person for many

years.

> Of course, it does not mean that whatever I say is exact. And,

> where I have been misguided, I have personally discussed the

matter

> privately with the chart owner.

>

> Too, I spend many hours at my desk daily, often times 12 hrs or

> more, laboring over charts and my contribution to Jyotish-Vidya.

> There has not been one chart that I have taken lightly or cast an

> assumption without back up material to support its destiny.

>

> I believe, as you have stated that most if not all of us are

genuine

> in our thoughts and actions here on JV. I would like to affirm

that

> my presence and activity is not anything less.

>

> I spend a great deal of time daily on my computer for JV, whether

it

> is noticed or not. I am not as a whole, wanting any affirmation,

> but since you brought the subject up, it is only fair and

reasonable

> that I reply in my own defense.

>

> I welcome any one person if they have the time, fortitiude and

> patience to change positions with me for JV.

>

> Of course, my position has been taken on without duress and I am

> glad I can be of service.

>

> It is true, that without objection, JV would wither in its intent

or

> accuracy. However, I believe the subject has been well

responeded

> to by Wendy, JV's owner and guiding light, over and above others

> opinions, including mine.

>

> May I add, that in the data base there are several tables that one

> can contribute to. In the "Member charts" table there are given

> opportunity in its various columns to identify oneself and give

> detail inforamtion that is very difficult to cultivate without

> personal input. The Tables are set up for all to use and add to.

>

> Sean, I am sure that this is something you would be interested

in,

> even with your limited time available. The tables are set up for

> anyone to contribute at their leisure and go back to as often as

> possible to give added information where one wants to contribute.

>

> As Always,

>

> Uttara

>

> ejyotish-vidya, "Sean Patrick Kelly"

> <toosean@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste

> >

> > Dear Wendy, I read the recent news and my prayers are with you

and

> > your sister at this time.

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > Regarding my participation in the group-- I definitely

contribute

> > in a more spontaneous way as it takes inspiration to put in the

> time

> > that it takes to study a chart and write an analysis.

> >

> > The study of Jyotish is completely captivating and enjoyable but

> it

> > has the role of a leisure activity for me as I have a full-time

> job

> > and a secondary part-time job as well.

> >

> > So unless I am somehow inspired, I don't have the time or energy

> to

> > contribute as often as I'd like. When I do contribute I spend

> quite

> > a few hours looking at the chart or contemplating the topic and

> > putting my thoughts together -- often I end up staying up quite

> late.

> >

> > Recently, I came across and was inspired by a discussion of

> Nalini's

> > chart on the "valist" group -- she just shared her birth details

> on

> > this group as well. I had posted my input on the other group,

but

> > I'd be happy to post it here too if anyone would be interested &

> > Nalini does not object.

> >

> > Christiane, I read your recent contributions and it is nice

> > to "hear" a new voice. I thought your objection was

appropriate

> > given what you knew. If you hadn't spoken your mind then you'd

> > still be silently appalled by what had seemed to be a tasteless

> > discussion and the peace that you know have about it would be

> > eluding you still. Sometimes hesitation can be more of an

> obstacle

> > to peace than straight-forward, even "rash" communication. :)

> >

> > Given the recent posts, I think it is obvious that we all have

> good

> > intentions here and we are in good company.

> >

> > Om Karunayai Namaha

> >

> > jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Uttara,

> > >

> > > You Wrote:

> > > //However, I think the group is tiring of the same theme-they

> can

> > > only take so much and talk so much about it in one reference.//

> > >

> > > I think it's best if it's more spontaneous, don't you agree?

> It's

> > > good that we have all these charts in the Database and I'm

> > > appreciative of all your hard work. However, as we all know,

> there

> > > are far more silent lurkers than there are participants, who,

> I'm

> > > sure, will find the Database invaluable in their studies. One

> > thing I

> > > would like to say is that it would be better to include only

> > charts

> > > that have a confirmed T.O.B.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > ______________________________

> > >

> > > -

> > > "Uttara" <muttaraphalguni@>

> > > <jyotish-vidya>

> > > Monday, February 27, 2006 2:59 AM

> > > Re: Week 3 Group Study Charts

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Wendy,

> > > Thanks for your support. Yes the charts can be overwhelming

> and

> > > why I strongly suggest that one stay in the perimeters of the

> > subject

> > > theme,

> > >

> > > From there I would like to classified in the links and files

> > > sections the different subjects that come up with each chart

> > along

> > > with books and articles and other references that people can

go

> to

> > on

> > > their own, for further research.

> > >

> > > If you are talking about a personal correspondence I had

with

> > you

> > > about Das, then I can resend it to you privately. If it was

own

> > you

> > > sent to the group I am sure it is in the archives for reach.

> > >

> > > Let me know and I will go hunting for what you have written.

> > >

> > > In the research of mental illness, I Found an incredible

> amount

> > of

> > > charts (with and without birth times) and a slew of books and

> > > articles written on the matter along with biographies and

> > > autobiographies. We could spend a whole year just on mental

> > illness

> > > from childhood on up and what triggers those that are

> predisposed

> > to

> > > succumb to much a mental hell

> > >

> > > However, I think the group is tiring of the same theme-they

> can

> > > only take so much and talk so much about it in one reference.

> > >

> > > Next week (4) I would like to use Slyvia Plath's and

Virginia

> > Woolf

> > > and Vivien Leigh's charts to introduce Bi Poplar and all its

> > > different levels. With these three charts with their

> > Schizoaffective

> > > Bipolar and suicides, I thought it would make a great

> > introduction

> > > into the Bipoplar disorders and at their worse end mental

> illness.

> > > Week (5) This is where I wanted to use Das as the main

feature.

> > > However, as I have already stated privately, I am not

convince

> > that

> > > he is truly Bipoplar and instead Major Depression with its

highs

> > and

> > > lows and psychosis incubated with hard drug use to axaberate

> the

> > > problem. There are a number of charts like Das's that fall

into

> > this

> > > category. That can supoort his. They are the emotional

> > illnessness

> > > that plague many of us from just pure stress and famlly

> > conditioning

> > > and learned behaviors (the multi-generaltional learned

> behaviors)

> > > that could make for some lively comparisons and talks from our

> own

> > > members.

> > >

> > > Do you have any other suggestions?

> > >

> > > I am trying to meet everyone's needs and those request by

the

> > > moderators.

> > >

> > > As Always,

> > >

> > > Uttara

> > >

> > > p.s. I am concern that the fourm is quiet, asI am trying to

> find

> > > interesting charts.

> > >

> > > I thigh maybe after this round of Mental Illness we come

then

> > study

> > > the champions of the Olympics??.

> > >

> > > Maybe Twins

> > > Deaths of Babies and young children -teenagers

> > > Health in members charts

> > > Or death of a parent, sibling, fostering, Adoptive in

> compariosn

> > of

> > > members charts

> > >

> >

>

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