Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Dear Nilesh, Neena and All, I Wrote: //No doubt Deepak has faced many accusations all of which, so far, have proved false. He is currently involved in a lawsuit involving copyright. The following site has more information: http://www.watchman.org/profile/choprapro.htm // Actually, on reading the information on the above link more thoroughly, it seems that one copyright dispute was settled (out-of-court) with Chopra agreeing to provide proper attributions to the other party...a look at dasas/transits at the time should reveal the situation more fully. I also should comment on the views expressed (on the website) regarding Christianity verses Hinduism. As you know I'm one that finds no conflict whatsoever between the two... God by any name is still God and both Christ and Krishna teach us that we will find this within ourselves... I suggest therefore that you take (what you read on the website regarding this) with a grain of salt. Many people have many different views :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Dear Group, For Deepak Chopra though the Lagnesh Shani is in 6th giving him lot of enemies he is in Pushya ruled by shani himself. Hence he has been able to defeat his enemies and other allegations. Mars the karaka of 6th house is in 9th,away from combustion thus giving him victory over his enemies. Also inspite of having indulged into smoking/drinking in his earlier days and Lagnesh in 6th he has good health as Shani is in a nakshatra owned by himself and that too Pushya.He is said to have his orignal black hair ( with no grey ) even today Undoubtedly he has a personality where in he thinks too much and which I am sure is also negative.This can be seen from the fact that Moon is in the 8th aspected by Sani.Also the depositor of moon in terms of rasi and nakshatra is in 2nd from itself. Though Jupiter the lord of 2nd and 11th is in 9th it is combust reducing the power of jains and earnings.Also it is debilitated in Navamsa. However this is more than compentiated by the fact that from moon the lord of 1,2nd ,9th and 10th are together in 2nd away from combustion. Sun the pitru karaka in 9th must have given him mixed relations with his father though he being along with the lord of career Mars must have influenced him to go into medicine.Also venus and ketu together in 10th has made him give up conventional medicine practice.Ketu in Jyestha and exalted has made him a preacher and venus in the nakshtra of saturn who rules 12th and 1st and in the rasi of 9th lord has made him a unique spiritual doctor. Would like to hear your comments, Best Regards Nilesh jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Nilesh, Neena and All, > > I Wrote: > //No doubt Deepak has faced many accusations > all of which, so far, have proved false. He is currently involved in > a lawsuit involving copyright. The following site has more > information: http://www.watchman.org/profile/choprapro.htm // > > Actually, on reading the information on the above link more > thoroughly, it seems that one copyright dispute was settled > (out-of-court) with Chopra agreeing to provide proper attributions to > the other party...a look at dasas/transits at the time should reveal > the situation more fully. > > I also should comment on the views expressed (on the website) > regarding Christianity verses Hinduism. As you know I'm one that > finds no conflict whatsoever between the two... God by any name is > still God and both Christ and Krishna teach us that we will find this > within ourselves... I suggest therefore that you take (what you read > on the website regarding this) with a grain of salt. Many people have > many different views :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 nilesh ji, just see the vipreet rajyogas formed by shani and chandra,and the rajayoga formed by the parivartana of mangal and shukra.his name and money all have come with vipreet circumstances,if you analyse the incidents with the dashas and the antardashas running they match easily. 6th,9th,12th houses are important houses ,medicines,hospitals,enemies,losses,foreign land,dharma. good horoscope to learn from. regards..mukesh i hope somebody can give us more details about his personal life. jyotish-vidya, "Nilesh Joshi" <niljoshi27 wrote: > > Dear Group, > > For Deepak Chopra though the Lagnesh Shani is in 6th giving him lot > of enemies he is in Pushya ruled by shani himself. Hence he has been > able to defeat his enemies and other allegations. > Mars the karaka of 6th house is in 9th,away from combustion thus > giving him victory over his enemies. > Also inspite of having indulged into smoking/drinking in his earlier > days and Lagnesh in 6th he has good health as Shani is in a > nakshatra owned by himself and that too Pushya.He is said to have > his orignal black hair ( with no grey ) even today > > Undoubtedly he has a personality where in he thinks too much and > which I am sure is also negative.This can be seen from the fact that > Moon is in the 8th aspected by Sani.Also the depositor of moon in > terms of rasi and nakshatra is in 2nd from itself. > > Though Jupiter the lord of 2nd and 11th is in 9th it is combust > reducing the power of jains and earnings.Also it is debilitated in > Navamsa. However this is more than compentiated by the fact that > from moon the lord of 1,2nd ,9th and 10th are together in 2nd away > from combustion. > > Sun the pitru karaka in 9th must have given him mixed relations with > his father though he being along with the lord of career Mars must > have influenced him to go into medicine.Also venus and ketu together > in 10th has made him give up conventional medicine practice.Ketu in > Jyestha and exalted has made him a preacher and venus in the > nakshtra of saturn who rules 12th and 1st and in the rasi of 9th > lord has made him a unique spiritual doctor. > > Would like to hear your comments, > > > Best Regards > > Nilesh > > > > > jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Nilesh, Neena and All, > > > > I Wrote: > > //No doubt Deepak has faced many accusations > > all of which, so far, have proved false. He is currently involved > in > > a lawsuit involving copyright. The following site has more > > information: http://www.watchman.org/profile/choprapro.htm // > > > > Actually, on reading the information on the above link more > > thoroughly, it seems that one copyright dispute was settled > > (out-of-court) with Chopra agreeing to provide proper attributions > to > > the other party...a look at dasas/transits at the time should > reveal > > the situation more fully. > > > > I also should comment on the views expressed (on the website) > > regarding Christianity verses Hinduism. As you know I'm one that > > finds no conflict whatsoever between the two... God by any name is > > still God and both Christ and Krishna teach us that we will find > this > > within ourselves... I suggest therefore that you take (what you > read > > on the website regarding this) with a grain of salt. Many people > have > > many different views :-) > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ______________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Namaste, In August / September 2004 we had analysed Mr Chopra's horoscope. What I put forward then is directly in contrast with what I currently "see". Lagna Analysis (Aquarius) Lagna in Purva Bhadrapada aspected by 2nd and 11th Lord Jupiter who has 3 favourable vergas. Lagna Lord Saturn is placed in the 6th house in own Nakshatra, but has no particular strength in the Dasaverga scheme. Mars and Venus are in Parivartana and together are the dispositors of all the other planets (Venus dispositing most of the others). Sun is debility cancelled in the 9th and conjoint Jupiter (2nd & 11th, neutrally placed), Mars (3rd & 10th, neutral) and Mercury (5th and 8th, best friend). Moon 6th Lord in the 8th house (generating a favourable yoga) in the 13th day of the dark half of the moon cycle is not a benefic and is present in the worst dusthana placed neutrally. Moon is not strong in the Dasaverga scheme. Moon is also weakened as it is approaching its sign of debilitation. Moon is aspected by Rahu (affliction) and Saturn (positive, being the lagna lord). 4th house analysis (Taurus): Occupied by exalted Rahu and aspected Venus (4th and 9th) and Mars (3rd and 10th). Rahu's presence and Mar's aspect are malefic. The 4th Lord Venus with 4 favourable vergas aspects, which strengthens the house. Venus and Rahu are in full sambanda (mutual aspect); Venus and Mars are in parivartana. 4th considered from the Moon (Sagittarius): No aspects on and no occupants in the 4th house. 4th Lord Jupiter in the 2nd and in conjunction (combust) with 12th Lord, 3rd & 8th Lord Mars and 1st & 10th Lord Mercury. The conjunction of a combust Jupiter with the 8th and 12th Lord along with its Kendra ownership and its placement in the 2nd are all-unfavourable for the significations of the 4th house. The mind of the native is under multiple malefic influences. 9th house analysis: (Libra) Occupied by Sun, Jupiter, Mars and Mercury. There are no aspects. The 9th Lord a Raja Yoga planet (powerful because of 4 favourable vergas) placed in the 10th in mutual exchange with Mars the 10th lord producing a DharmaKarmadhipathi Yoga. But Venus is along the ketu-rahu axis and mars is closely conjoint Mercury. This close conjunction of Mercury and Mars gives us the following combinations 5th & 10th, 8th & 10th, 3rd & 5th and 3rd & 8th. Of these the 5th & 10th in the 9th has given the native fame through his writings and authorship. The 8th and 10th conjunction in the 9th could indicate loss of reputation and dishonour. The 2nd & 11th Lord Jupiter, with 3 favourable vergas is present in the 9th which on its own is very good for income generation. Jupiter is combust, which should weaken this yoga. The 7th Lord's position in the 9th and the 7th & 11th conjunction along with the presence of 8th Lord in the 9th all indicate a possible lack of moral fibre when it comes to relationships with the opposite sex. The 3rd and 8th conjunction has again negative implications. The 3rd and 5th conjunction can be interpreted either positively or negatively depending on the predominating influence (energy and our motivations directed towards generating new thought / actions or the same energy can be caught in dangerous addictions) Overall the 9th house is afflicted and since Jupiter (natural significator of Dharma) occupies the 9th comes under the same influences as the 9th house. 9th house considered from the moon (Taurus): occupied by exalted Rahu and aspected by 9th Lord Venus and 3rd & 8th Lord Mars. 9th House strengthened by the aspect of its lord, but we find the Rahu – Venus – Mars influence. Generally, if the 4th house and the 9th house are afflicted, it puts a huge question mark on the general stature of the horoscope If we look at the Venus and Mars Parivartana along with Rahu and Venus mutual aspect in the light of the 4th and 9th house analysis, conclusions cannot be favourable. Regards Arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Dear Nilesh, //For Deepak Chopra though the Lagnesh Shani is in 6th giving him lot of enemies he is in Pushya ruled by shani himself. Hence he has been able to defeat his enemies and other allegations.// As we know 6th house also governs internal enemies (vices) as well as external enemies...anyone or anything (externally or internally) that has the power to cause harm is seen from this house. As we know there was a time in Deepak's life when he was caught in the grip of vices - as you well observed below: //Also inspite of having indulged into smoking/drinking in his earlier days and Lagnesh in 6th he has good health as Shani is in a nakshatra owned by himself and that too Pushya. Mars the karaka of 6th house is in 9th, away from combustion thus giving him victory over his enemies.// Both Mars and Mercury (dispositor of Asc lord's dispositor) are well-placed in 9th house, indicating good support from nature, solutions to problems, remedies (medicine, yagya, tapas, meditation, wisdom etc). //Undoubtedly he has a personality where in he thinks too much and which I am sure is also negative.This can be seen from the fact that Moon is in the 8th aspected by Sani.// Vipreet raj yoga is formed with lagna lord in 6th whilst his dispositor (Moon) occupies 8th, indicating success after initial struggles. I see the aspect of lagnesh Sani on his dispositor (Moon) in a more positive light. Lagna is Sani's moolatrikona sign so his aspect is not harmful...will support the native! We're told that, although Saturn's nature is to restrict, he is rightly called MahaYogi and can (if benefic for the native) lead him towards meditation, non-attachment and wisdom. I see Saturn's aspect on Moon (in 8th) as the greatest blessing for Deepak in terms of moksha. A LOOK AT 4TH HOUSE: Deepak has Rahu here in sign of Venus... Rahu, as a co-worker of lagnesh Sani, occupies nakshatra of Moon who occupies 8th moksha bhava, whilst 4th lord Venus conjuncts exalted MokshaKaraka Ketu in 10th. We know from previous discussions that 4th (moksha) house governs one's confidence & belief, moral virtues, devotion to God, character, good name and reputation etc.. We also know that Deepak has made a career (4th lord in 10th) of propogating his belief. Rahu in 4th is a compelling force and no doubt he is driven to share this with the world. Consider 3rd/10th lord Mars in 9th house of religion/publishing etc (aspecting 3rd and 4th) and you'll see the energy given to communication through writing. Mars is conjunct karaka for 10th (Mercury - planet of intellect, writing, speech) and it too aspects 3rd house. Consider 5th lord Mercury (dispositor of Moon) in 9th. I must also add a little about 4th lord Venus in 10th (in nakshatra of Saturn who occupies 6th house of enemies). None can doubt that there are many (enemies) who question his integrity, belief in God and so forth. I'll leave it here for now whilst I enjoy a little time away from the computer :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 The horo of Deepak Chopra casted in my sw shows Uttat Phaguni Naks. with lagna in kumbh rashi at 29Ku29'42" with birth time at 15.51 hrs place 77E12", 28N36". Is it right??? Harry Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Nilesh, //For Deepak Chopra though the Lagnesh Shani is in 6th giving him lot of enemies he is in Pushya ruled by shani himself. Hence he has been able to defeat his enemies and other allegations.// As we know 6th house also governs internal enemies (vices) as well as external enemies...anyone or anything (externally or internally) that has the power to cause harm is seen from this house. As we know there was a time in Deepak's life when he was caught in the grip of vices - as you well observed below: //Also inspite of having indulged into smoking/drinking in his earlier days and Lagnesh in 6th he has good health as Shani is in a nakshatra owned by himself and that too Pushya. Mars the karaka of 6th house is in 9th, away from combustion thus giving him victory over his enemies.// Both Mars and Mercury (dispositor of Asc lord's dispositor) are well-placed in 9th house, indicating good support from nature, solutions to problems, remedies (medicine, yagya, tapas, meditation, wisdom etc). //Undoubtedly he has a personality where in he thinks too much and which I am sure is also negative.This can be seen from the fact that Moon is in the 8th aspected by Sani.// Vipreet raj yoga is formed with lagna lord in 6th whilst his dispositor (Moon) occupies 8th, indicating success after initial struggles. I see the aspect of lagnesh Sani on his dispositor (Moon) in a more positive light. Lagna is Sani's moolatrikona sign so his aspect is not harmful...will support the native! We're told that, although Saturn's nature is to restrict, he is rightly called MahaYogi and can (if benefic for the native) lead him towards meditation, non-attachment and wisdom. I see Saturn's aspect on Moon (in 8th) as the greatest blessing for Deepak in terms of moksha. A LOOK AT 4TH HOUSE: Deepak has Rahu here in sign of Venus... Rahu, as a co-worker of lagnesh Sani, occupies nakshatra of Moon who occupies 8th moksha bhava, whilst 4th lord Venus conjuncts exalted MokshaKaraka Ketu in 10th. We know from previous discussions that 4th (moksha) house governs one's confidence & belief, moral virtues, devotion to God, character, good name and reputation etc.. We also know that Deepak has made a career (4th lord in 10th) of propogating his belief. Rahu in 4th is a compelling force and no doubt he is driven to share this with the world. Consider 3rd/10th lord Mars in 9th house of religion/publishing etc (aspecting 3rd and 4th) and you'll see the energy given to communication through writing. Mars is conjunct karaka for 10th (Mercury - planet of intellect, writing, speech) and it too aspects 3rd house. Consider 5th lord Mercury (dispositor of Moon) in 9th. I must also add a little about 4th lord Venus in 10th (in nakshatra of Saturn who occupies 6th house of enemies). None can doubt that there are many (enemies) who question his integrity, belief in God and so forth. I'll leave it here for now whilst I enjoy a little time away from the computer :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Dear Arun, You Wrote: //Moon 6th Lord in the 8th house (generating a favourable yoga) in the 13th day of the dark half of the moon cycle is not a benefic and is present in the worst dusthana placed neutrally. Moon is not strong in the Dasaverga scheme. Moon is also weakened as it is approaching its sign of debilitation.// As we know, Moon governs (as well as mother) females in general and the public. We also know that 8th house governs, amongst other things, scandal, accusations, infamy etc., and, as you rightly pointed out, waning Moon, considered a (mild) malefic, can, I'm sure, indicate the sort of accusations that have been levelled against him by certain females...see quote below: "In addition to the aforementioned lawsuits, Chopra has sued several other critics in recent years. A 1996 article in The Weekly Standard published the claim of a prostitute that Chopra had patronized her in 1991. Chopra filed suit against The Weekly Standard after the prostitute retracted her assertion, leading the magazine to publish an apology and pay Chopra's estimated $1 million in legal fees (Newsweek, October 20, 1997, p. 56; Los Angeles Times, September 7, 1997). The law firm representing a former Chopra employee who accused Chopra of sexual harassment was also sued; this suit was recently dismissed with prejudice by a judge who called the suit "frivolous" ("Deepak Chopra Bombshell")." However, as pointed out earlier, he has managed to quell these false accusations. //Moon is aspected by Rahu (affliction) and Saturn (positive, being the lagna lord).// As you know Arun, I follow the school of thought that maintains the nodes do not aspect...their influence being confined to the house they occupy and their effect seen through their associations i.e. dispositor, nakshatra lord etc.. //If we look at the Venus and Mars Parivartana along with Rahu and Venus mutual aspect in the light of the 4th and 9th house analysis, conclusions cannot be favourable.// I really would be interested to have your interpretation of the (supposed) mutual aspect between Rahu/Ketu. As you know these shadowy planets are diametrically opposite in their significations - effectively cancelling each other out, wouldn't you say. I have no wish to raise another controversy but I'm certainly interested in your interpretation of Rahu's aspect on Ketu and vice-versa. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "arun" <savitarcyber <jyotish-vidya> Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:58 PM Re: Study Chart: Deepak Chopra Namaste, In August / September 2004 we had analysed Mr Chopra's horoscope. What I put forward then is directly in contrast with what I currently "see". Lagna Analysis (Aquarius) Lagna in Purva Bhadrapada aspected by 2nd and 11th Lord Jupiter who has 3 favourable vergas. Lagna Lord Saturn is placed in the 6th house in own Nakshatra, but has no particular strength in the Dasaverga scheme. Mars and Venus are in Parivartana and together are the dispositors of all the other planets (Venus dispositing most of the others). Sun is debility cancelled in the 9th and conjoint Jupiter (2nd & 11th, neutrally placed), Mars (3rd & 10th, neutral) and Mercury (5th and 8th, best friend). Moon 6th Lord in the 8th house (generating a favourable yoga) in the 13th day of the dark half of the moon cycle is not a benefic and is present in the worst dusthana placed neutrally. Moon is not strong in the Dasaverga scheme. Moon is also weakened as it is approaching its sign of debilitation. Moon is aspected by Rahu (affliction) and Saturn (positive, being the lagna lord). 4th house analysis (Taurus): Occupied by exalted Rahu and aspected Venus (4th and 9th) and Mars (3rd and 10th). Rahu's presence and Mar's aspect are malefic. The 4th Lord Venus with 4 favourable vergas aspects, which strengthens the house. Venus and Rahu are in full sambanda (mutual aspect); Venus and Mars are in parivartana. 4th considered from the Moon (Sagittarius): No aspects on and no occupants in the 4th house. 4th Lord Jupiter in the 2nd and in conjunction (combust) with 12th Lord, 3rd & 8th Lord Mars and 1st & 10th Lord Mercury. The conjunction of a combust Jupiter with the 8th and 12th Lord along with its Kendra ownership and its placement in the 2nd are all-unfavourable for the significations of the 4th house. The mind of the native is under multiple malefic influences. 9th house analysis: (Libra) Occupied by Sun, Jupiter, Mars and Mercury. There are no aspects. The 9th Lord a Raja Yoga planet (powerful because of 4 favourable vergas) placed in the 10th in mutual exchange with Mars the 10th lord producing a DharmaKarmadhipathi Yoga. But Venus is along the ketu-rahu axis and mars is closely conjoint Mercury. This close conjunction of Mercury and Mars gives us the following combinations 5th & 10th, 8th & 10th, 3rd & 5th and 3rd & 8th. Of these the 5th & 10th in the 9th has given the native fame through his writings and authorship. The 8th and 10th conjunction in the 9th could indicate loss of reputation and dishonour. The 2nd & 11th Lord Jupiter, with 3 favourable vergas is present in the 9th which on its own is very good for income generation. Jupiter is combust, which should weaken this yoga. The 7th Lord's position in the 9th and the 7th & 11th conjunction along with the presence of 8th Lord in the 9th all indicate a possible lack of moral fibre when it comes to relationships with the opposite sex. The 3rd and 8th conjunction has again negative implications. The 3rd and 5th conjunction can be interpreted either positively or negatively depending on the predominating influence (energy and our motivations directed towards generating new thought / actions or the same energy can be caught in dangerous addictions) Overall the 9th house is afflicted and since Jupiter (natural significator of Dharma) occupies the 9th comes under the same influences as the 9th house. 9th house considered from the moon (Taurus): occupied by exalted Rahu and aspected by 9th Lord Venus and 3rd & 8th Lord Mars. 9th House strengthened by the aspect of its lord, but we find the Rahu - Venus - Mars influence. Generally, if the 4th house and the 9th house are afflicted, it puts a huge question mark on the general stature of the horoscope If we look at the Venus and Mars Parivartana along with Rahu and Venus mutual aspect in the light of the 4th and 9th house analysis, conclusions cannot be favourable. Regards Arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Dear Harry, Using PL software and Lahiri ayanamsha, I get Aquarius (Kumbha) 26°29'45" Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Haresh (Harry) Nathani" <haresh1405 <jyotish-vidya> Saturday, April 08, 2006 3:11 PM Re: Re: Study Chart: Deepak Chopra The horo of Deepak Chopra casted in my sw shows Uttat Phaguni Naks. with lagna in kumbh rashi at 29Ku29'42" with birth time at 15.51 hrs place 77E12", 28N36". Is it right??? Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Dear Wendy Thanx for ur reply. I am using J Hora sw 7.02 version with Lahiri ayanamsha. I am getting Uttar Phalguni Naks. Harry Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Harry, Using PL software and Lahiri ayanamsha, I get Aquarius (Kumbha) 26°29'45" Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Haresh (Harry) Nathani" <haresh1405 <jyotish-vidya> Saturday, April 08, 2006 3:11 PM Re: Re: Study Chart: Deepak Chopra The horo of Deepak Chopra casted in my sw shows Uttat Phaguni Naks. with lagna in kumbh rashi at 29Ku29'42" with birth time at 15.51 hrs place 77E12", 28N36". Is it right??? Harry Vedic astrology Personal reading Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Namaste Wendy // > I really would be interested to have your interpretation of the > (supposed) mutual aspect between Rahu/Ketu. > As you know these shadowy planets are diametrically opposite in their > significations - effectively cancelling each other out, > wouldn't you say. I have no wish to raise another controversy but I'm > certainly interested in your interpretation of Rahu's aspect on Ketu > and vice-versa.// I never knew that there was such a line of thought! My understanding was that Rahu and ketu complimented each other in their functioning rather than cancelling. Rahu's energy moves outward, while ketu's is inward. If their energies cancel out then we cannot class them as malefics or entities of any significance. regards arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Dear Wendy, The following details are given in support of uttar phalguni nakshatra of Deepak Chopra He has moon in kanya rasi 8th from kumbh lagna at 5kanya 18'33.76" As per Nashatra table Uttar Phalguni Naks. starts at 26Le40 and ends at 23Vi20 Pushya naks. persons are born with moon in cancer which starts at 03Can20 & ends at 16Cn40 Therefore analysis of chart taking puyshya naks will be not correct on one's part. The following is the naks character of the native in uttar phalguni naks. Symbol bed (four legs), or hammock Deity Aryaman, one of the Adityas, rules patronage, kindness, and favors. Bhaga and Aryaman are invoked together Stars Denebola, situated in the Lion’s tail, quick mind, noble, generous, with high honors, but has an association with people with bad reputations. Mythology Aryaman governs marriage contracts, and protects family inheritance. Shiva and Shakti were married under this asterism. Indications Friendship is important to these helpful, kind individuals. They are happiest when married. Relationships and family unity are important. The meanings of Purva Phalguni apply here as well, just a little subdued. It is called the "Star of Patronage" for their love of humanity and caring sincere nature. They want to alleviate the suffering in society. Basically the Phalguni’s are known to have a happy marriage. But, since this nakshatra cannot stand to be alone, they may settle for anybody, and become involved in a co-dependent relationship, leading to resentments and marriage problems. They are courageous and good with people, leading them into powerful positions. There is a tendency to be controlling and very stubborn. I hv also listed below the horo hs details Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 26 Kumbh 29' 42.77" PBha 2 Kumbh Vrish Surya - DK 5 Tula 18' 33.76" Chit 4 Tula Vrisch Chandra - GK 5 Kanya 42' 36.69" UPha 3 Kanya Kumbh Mangala - AmK 26 Tula 00' 09.56" Visa 2 Tula Vrish Budha - AK 27 Tula 23' 37.50" Visa 3 Tula Mith Guru - MK 12 Tula 37' 30.81" Swat 2 Tula Makar Sukra - PK 8 Vrisch 45' 16.73" Anu 2 Vrisch Kanya Sani - BK 14 Kark 59' 52.10" Push 4 Kark Vrisch Rahu - PiK 20 Vrish 46' 23.01" Rohi 4 Vrish Kark Ketu 20 Vrisch 46' 23.01" Jye 2 Vrisch Makar Maandi 29 Dhanu 22' 43.24" USha 1 Dhanu Dhanu Gulika 18 Dhanu 44' 14.16" PSha 2 Dhanu Kanya Uranus ® 28 Vrish 25' 55.22" Mrig 2 Vrish Kanya Neptune 16 Kanya 00' 05.06" Hast 2 Kanya Vrish Pluto 20 Kark 08' 02.87" Asre 2 Kark Makar Bhava Lagna 25 Kumbh 14' 35.62" PBha 2 Kumbh Vrish Hora Lagna 15 Kark 33' 54.53" Push 4 Kark Vrisch Ghati Lagna 16 Kanya 31' 51.28" Hast 2 Kanya Vrish Vighati Lagna 21 Kark 21' 35.01" Asre 2 Kark Makar Varnada Lagna 26 Vrish 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Vrish Dhanu Sree Lagna 0 Vrisch 40' 13.47" Visa 4 Vrisch Kark Pranapada Lagna 21 Kark 44' 52.06" Asre 2 Kark Makar Indu Lagna 5 Simh 42' 36.69" Magh 2 Simh Vrish Dhooma 18 Kumbh 38' 33.76" Sata 4 Kumbh Meen Vyatipata 11 Vrish 21' 26.24" Rohi 1 Vrish Mesh Parivesha 11 Vrisch 21' 26.24" Anu 3 Vrisch Tula Indra Chapa 18 Simh 38' 33.76" PPha 2 Simh Kanya Upaketu 5 Kanya 18' 33.76" UPha 3 Kanya Kumbh Kaala 21 Kumbh 04' 28.99" PBha 1 Kumbh Mesh Mrityu 14 Tula 00' 11.89" Swat 3 Tula Kumbh Artha Prahara 1 Vrisch 57' 55.98" Visa 4 Vrisch Kark Yama Ghantaka 19 Vrisch 58' 11.57" Jye 1 Vrisch Dhanu Prana Sphuta 1 Kark 12' 47.99" Puna 4 Kark Kark Deha Sphuta 4 Mith 25' 07.70" Mrig 4 Mith Vrisch Mrityu Sphuta 16 Tula 28' 12.87" Swat 3 Tula Kumbh Sookshma TriSphuta 22 Meen 06' 08.56" Reva 2 Meen Makar TriSphuta 20 Mesh 56' 33.62" Bhar 3 Mesh Tula ChatusSphuta 26 Tula 15' 07.37" Visa 2 Tula Vrish PanchaSphuta 17 Dhanu 01' 30.39" PSha 2 Dhanu Kanya V2 26 Dhanu 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Dhanu Meen V3 26 Kanya 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Kanya Mesh V4 26 Dhanu 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Dhanu Kark V5 26 Vrish 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Vrish Simh V6 26 Mesh 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Mesh Vrisch V7 26 Vrish 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Vrish Dhanu V8 26 Dhanu 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Dhanu Meen V9 26 Kanya 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Kanya Mesh V10 26 Dhanu 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Dhanu Kark V11 26 Vrish 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Vrish Simh V12 26 Mesh 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Mesh Vrisch Kunda 16 Kanya 06' 44.00" Hast 2 Kanya Vrish It appears some discripincy in the charts or sw settings. I hv casted many horo's on this sw and hv never come accross any discripancy Harry Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: Dear Harry, Using PL software and Lahiri ayanamsha, I get Aquarius (Kumbha) 26°29'45" Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Haresh (Harry) Nathani" <haresh1405 <jyotish-vidya> Saturday, April 08, 2006 3:11 PM Re: Re: Study Chart: Deepak Chopra The horo of Deepak Chopra casted in my sw shows Uttat Phaguni Naks. with lagna in kumbh rashi at 29Ku29'42" with birth time at 15.51 hrs place 77E12", 28N36". Is it right??? Harry Vedic astrology Personal reading Astrology chart Astrology software Visit your group "jyotish-vidya" on the web. jyotish-vidya Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Dear Harry, You Wrote: //It appears some discripincy in the charts or sw settings. I hv casted many horo's on this sw and hv never come accross any discripancy// Where is the discrepancy? According to your J Hora printout (below): Lagna is 26°29'42" Aquarius - PL also gives the same degree. Nakshatra of Moon is U. Phalg - PL also gives U. Phalg. Nakshatra of lagnesh Sani is Pushya - PL also gives Pushya. //Pushya naks. persons are born with moon in cancer which starts at 03Can20 & ends at 16Cn40// This is where your confusion lies. If you read Nilesh's post (below) you will see that he was clearly referring to lagnesh Sani's position in pushya nakshatra - NOT to Moon. Nilesh Wrote: //For Deepak Chopra though the Lagnesh Shani is in 6th giving him lot of enemies he is in Pushya ruled by shani himself.// Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Haresh (Harry) Nathani" <haresh1405 <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, April 09, 2006 1:31 PM Re: Re: Study Chart: Deepak Chopra Dear Wendy, The following details are given in support of uttar phalguni nakshatra of Deepak Chopra He has moon in kanya rasi 8th from kumbh lagna at 5kanya 18'33.76" As per Nashatra table Uttar Phalguni Naks. starts at 26Le40 and ends at 23Vi20 Pushya naks. persons are born with moon in cancer which starts at 03Can20 & ends at 16Cn40 Therefore analysis of chart taking puyshya naks will be not correct on one's part. The following is the naks character of the native in uttar phalguni naks. Symbol bed (four legs), or hammock Deity Aryaman, one of the Adityas, rules patronage, kindness, and favors. Bhaga and Aryaman are invoked together Stars Denebola, situated in the Lion's tail, quick mind, noble, generous, with high honors, but has an association with people with bad reputations. Mythology Aryaman governs marriage contracts, and protects family inheritance. Shiva and Shakti were married under this asterism. Indications Friendship is important to these helpful, kind individuals. They are happiest when married. Relationships and family unity are important. The meanings of Purva Phalguni apply here as well, just a little subdued. It is called the "Star of Patronage" for their love of humanity and caring sincere nature. They want to alleviate the suffering in society. Basically the Phalguni's are known to have a happy marriage. But, since this nakshatra cannot stand to be alone, they may settle for anybody, and become involved in a co-dependent relationship, leading to resentments and marriage problems. They are courageous and good with people, leading them into powerful positions. There is a tendency to be controlling and very stubborn. I hv also listed below the horo hs details Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 26 Kumbh 29' 42.77" PBha 2 Kumbh Vrish Surya - DK 5 Tula 18' 33.76" Chit 4 Tula Vrisch Chandra - GK 5 Kanya 42' 36.69" UPha 3 Kanya Kumbh Mangala - AmK 26 Tula 00' 09.56" Visa 2 Tula Vrish Budha - AK 27 Tula 23' 37.50" Visa 3 Tula Mith Guru - MK 12 Tula 37' 30.81" Swat 2 Tula Makar Sukra - PK 8 Vrisch 45' 16.73" Anu 2 Vrisch Kanya Sani - BK 14 Kark 59' 52.10" Push 4 Kark Vrisch Rahu - PiK 20 Vrish 46' 23.01" Rohi 4 Vrish Kark Ketu 20 Vrisch 46' 23.01" Jye 2 Vrisch Makar Maandi 29 Dhanu 22' 43.24" USha 1 Dhanu Dhanu Gulika 18 Dhanu 44' 14.16" PSha 2 Dhanu Kanya Uranus ® 28 Vrish 25' 55.22" Mrig 2 Vrish Kanya Neptune 16 Kanya 00' 05.06" Hast 2 Kanya Vrish Pluto 20 Kark 08' 02.87" Asre 2 Kark Makar Bhava Lagna 25 Kumbh 14' 35.62" PBha 2 Kumbh Vrish Hora Lagna 15 Kark 33' 54.53" Push 4 Kark Vrisch Ghati Lagna 16 Kanya 31' 51.28" Hast 2 Kanya Vrish Vighati Lagna 21 Kark 21' 35.01" Asre 2 Kark Makar Varnada Lagna 26 Vrish 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Vrish Dhanu Sree Lagna 0 Vrisch 40' 13.47" Visa 4 Vrisch Kark Pranapada Lagna 21 Kark 44' 52.06" Asre 2 Kark Makar Indu Lagna 5 Simh 42' 36.69" Magh 2 Simh Vrish Dhooma 18 Kumbh 38' 33.76" Sata 4 Kumbh Meen Vyatipata 11 Vrish 21' 26.24" Rohi 1 Vrish Mesh Parivesha 11 Vrisch 21' 26.24" Anu 3 Vrisch Tula Indra Chapa 18 Simh 38' 33.76" PPha 2 Simh Kanya Upaketu 5 Kanya 18' 33.76" UPha 3 Kanya Kumbh Kaala 21 Kumbh 04' 28.99" PBha 1 Kumbh Mesh Mrityu 14 Tula 00' 11.89" Swat 3 Tula Kumbh Artha Prahara 1 Vrisch 57' 55.98" Visa 4 Vrisch Kark Yama Ghantaka 19 Vrisch 58' 11.57" Jye 1 Vrisch Dhanu Prana Sphuta 1 Kark 12' 47.99" Puna 4 Kark Kark Deha Sphuta 4 Mith 25' 07.70" Mrig 4 Mith Vrisch Mrityu Sphuta 16 Tula 28' 12.87" Swat 3 Tula Kumbh Sookshma TriSphuta 22 Meen 06' 08.56" Reva 2 Meen Makar TriSphuta 20 Mesh 56' 33.62" Bhar 3 Mesh Tula ChatusSphuta 26 Tula 15' 07.37" Visa 2 Tula Vrish PanchaSphuta 17 Dhanu 01' 30.39" PSha 2 Dhanu Kanya V2 26 Dhanu 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Dhanu Meen V3 26 Kanya 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Kanya Mesh V4 26 Dhanu 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Dhanu Kark V5 26 Vrish 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Vrish Simh V6 26 Mesh 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Mesh Vrisch V7 26 Vrish 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Vrish Dhanu V8 26 Dhanu 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Dhanu Meen V9 26 Kanya 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Kanya Mesh V10 26 Dhanu 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Dhanu Kark V11 26 Vrish 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Vrish Simh V12 26 Mesh 29' 42.77" Aswi 1 Mesh Vrisch Kunda 16 Kanya 06' 44.00" Hast 2 Kanya Vrish It appears some discripincy in the charts or sw settings. I hv casted many horo's on this sw and hv never come accross any discripancy Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Dear Wendyji,Mukesh and Arun, I had always felt that for Vipareet raja yoga to fructify there needs to be a connection betn 6,8 and 12th house and there lords.In case of Deepak's horoscope the lord of 8th is in 9th.In such a case does he have Vipareet raja yoga? Also 12 th house is considered the house of moksha, how is the 4th house connected with moksha? Best Regards Nilesh jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Nilesh, > > //For Deepak Chopra though the Lagnesh Shani is in 6th giving him lot > of enemies he is in Pushya ruled by shani himself. Hence he has been > able to defeat his enemies and other allegations.// > > As we know 6th house also governs internal enemies (vices) as well as > external enemies...anyone or anything (externally or internally) that > has the power to cause harm is seen from this house. As we know there > was a time in Deepak's life when he was caught in the grip of vices - > as you well observed below: > > //Also inspite of having indulged into smoking/drinking in his > earlier > days and Lagnesh in 6th he has good health as Shani is in a > nakshatra owned by himself and that too Pushya. > Mars the karaka of 6th house is in 9th, away from combustion thus > giving him victory over his enemies.// > > Both Mars and Mercury (dispositor of Asc lord's dispositor) are > well-placed in 9th house, indicating good support from nature, > solutions to problems, remedies (medicine, yagya, tapas, meditation, > wisdom etc). > > //Undoubtedly he has a personality where in he thinks too much and > which I am sure is also negative.This can be seen from the fact that > Moon is in the 8th aspected by Sani.// > > Vipreet raj yoga is formed with lagna lord in 6th whilst his > dispositor (Moon) occupies 8th, indicating success after initial > struggles. I see the aspect of lagnesh Sani on his dispositor (Moon) > in a more positive light. Lagna is Sani's moolatrikona sign so his > aspect is not harmful...will support the native! We're told that, > although Saturn's nature is to restrict, he is rightly called > MahaYogi and can (if benefic for the native) lead him towards > meditation, non-attachment and wisdom. I see Saturn's aspect on Moon > (in 8th) as the greatest blessing for Deepak in terms of moksha. > > A LOOK AT 4TH HOUSE: > Deepak has Rahu here in sign of Venus... Rahu, as a co-worker of > lagnesh Sani, occupies nakshatra of Moon who occupies 8th moksha > bhava, whilst 4th lord Venus conjuncts exalted MokshaKaraka Ketu in > 10th. We know from previous discussions that 4th (moksha) house > governs one's confidence & belief, moral virtues, devotion to God, > character, good name and reputation etc.. We also know that Deepak > has made a career (4th lord in 10th) of propogating his belief. Rahu > in 4th is a compelling force and no doubt he is driven to share this > with the world. Consider 3rd/10th lord Mars in 9th house of > religion/publishing etc (aspecting 3rd and 4th) and you'll see the > energy given to communication through writing. Mars is conjunct > karaka for 10th (Mercury - planet of intellect, writing, speech) and > it too aspects 3rd house. Consider 5th lord Mercury (dispositor of > Moon) in 9th. > > I must also add a little about 4th lord Venus in 10th (in nakshatra > of Saturn who occupies 6th house of enemies). None can doubt that > there are many (enemies) who question his integrity, belief in God > and so forth. > > I'll leave it here for now whilst I enjoy a little time away from the > computer :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Dear Nilesh, 'Sarala-VipreetRaj Yoga' is formed when the lord of 6th, 8th or 12th occupies 8th house. PhalaDeepika says that this yoga indicates one will be long-lived, resolute, fearless, prosperous and endowed with learning, children and riches. Pure, one will achieve success in his undertakings, overcome his foes (enemies), and be widely celebrated. Regarding the moksha houses, there is no doubt that these are 4th, 8th and 12th. As we know there are many paths to moksha (enlightenment)... I would class the 4th as being primarily the house (or path) of devotion as it represents the emotional heart/feelings, piety, devotion to God etc.. Perhaps it might be an interesting exercise to compare the other paths leading to moksha as they may(?) relate to the 8th/12th moksha houses. MokshaKaraka Ketu, as we know, is also referred to as GnanaKaraka (meaning knowledge, wisdom or discrimination)...another of the paths leading to moksha. It's relevant that Deepak has exalted Ketu conjunct 4th lord Venus in 10th house of career, status, name/fame/publicity etc.. HOUSE CLASSIFICATIONS: Dharma: 1, 5, 9 Artha: 2, 6, 10 Kama: 3, 7, 11 Moksha: 4, 8, 12 Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Nilesh Joshi" <niljoshi27 <jyotish-vidya> Monday, April 10, 2006 12:31 PM Re: Study Chart: Deepak Chopra Dear Wendyji,Mukesh and Arun, I had always felt that for Vipareet raja yoga to fructify there needs to be a connection betn 6,8 and 12th house and there lords.In case of Deepak's horoscope the lord of 8th is in 9th.In such a case does he have Vipareet raja yoga? Also 12 th house is considered the house of moksha, how is the 4th house connected with moksha? Best Regards Nilesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Dear Wendyji, Thanks for this piece of info which I was not aware of Best Regards Nilesh jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Nilesh, > > 'Sarala-VipreetRaj Yoga' is formed when the lord of 6th, 8th or 12th > occupies 8th house. PhalaDeepika says that this yoga indicates one > will be long-lived, resolute, fearless, prosperous and endowed with > learning, children and riches. Pure, one will achieve success in his > undertakings, overcome his foes (enemies), and be widely celebrated. > > Regarding the moksha houses, there is no doubt that these are 4th, > 8th and 12th. As we know there are many paths to moksha > (enlightenment)... I would class the 4th as being primarily the house > (or path) of devotion as it represents the emotional heart/feelings, > piety, devotion to God etc.. > > Perhaps it might be an interesting exercise to compare the other > paths leading to moksha as they may(?) relate to the 8th/12th moksha > houses. > > MokshaKaraka Ketu, as we know, is also referred to as GnanaKaraka > (meaning knowledge, wisdom or discrimination)...another of the paths > leading to moksha. It's relevant that Deepak has exalted Ketu > conjunct 4th lord Venus in 10th house of career, status, > name/fame/publicity etc.. > > HOUSE CLASSIFICATIONS: > Dharma: 1, 5, 9 > Artha: 2, 6, 10 > Kama: 3, 7, 11 > Moksha: 4, 8, 12 > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "Nilesh Joshi" <niljoshi27 > <jyotish-vidya> > Monday, April 10, 2006 12:31 PM > Re: Study Chart: Deepak Chopra > > > Dear Wendyji,Mukesh and Arun, > > I had always felt that for Vipareet raja yoga to fructify there > needs to be a connection betn 6,8 and 12th house and there lords.In > case of Deepak's horoscope the lord of 8th is in 9th.In such a case > does he have Vipareet raja yoga? > > Also 12 th house is considered the house of moksha, how is the 4th > house connected with moksha? > > Best Regards > > Nilesh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Namaste Nilesh, the 4th, 8th and 12th are related to moksha, the 4th is our search for peace and happiness, the 8th the difficulties that we encounter in our search and the 12th how we negate ourselves to arrive at it. (refer Dr. Frawley's "astrology of the seers". regards Arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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