#5 Count from Lagna to it's lord...

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|| Om Namah Shivaaya ||

Dear Vistiji, Namaskar,

Thank you for your valuable comments. I will get a copy of BPHS as

soon as possible.

I understand your reasoning about the dictum being more valid for

relatives. However, might it not be possible for a person to

receive longevity from their Guru? Obviously it would depend on the

closeness of the relationship among other things. But if it were

possible, then perhaps Lagnesh in 9th isn't good for the Guru

either?

I am also working on understanding the second part of this dictum.

That is, if we count from the lord to lagna, we will get the house that

"benefits" (for lack of a better word). Now does this

'benefit' extend to all significations or only to some? I know that

Lagnesh in 5th is good for the father, so it would seem that external

(relatives only, perhaps) significations will benefit. But what

about internal ones? My thinking is that, if the logic established

so far continues, then these will actually be diminished. So

Lagnesh in 5th will not bring the native good luck and so on. Is

this line of thought correct?

With reverence to the Gurus,

Samir

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Sat, 12 Mar 2005 13:19:35 +0100

"Visti Larsen"

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RE: #4 "Count from Lagna to it's lord..."

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Samir, Namaskar

You have copied this from some online text. Please get the original

sanskrit and work on it, it actually gets easier to understand and

remember Parasara.

There are three results give by Parasara;

- dehasaukhya-vivarjita;

devoid of bodily comforts/happiness

- vyartha-vyayī;

fruitless expenditure or useless expenditure

- mahÄkrodhÄ«; prone to

much anger/wrathful

The Sharma edition has seemingly by accident mistranslated the word

“vivarjitaâ€, please keep that in mind.

 

- dehasaukhya; the health

of the body is seen from the lagna, but the comforts of the body are seen

from the twelfth house itself, i.e. sleep, recuperation and relaxation.

When worst comes to worst, the twelfth house is the doctor and hospital

where our recovery requires special assistance, and hence the twelfth

house is for the bodily comforts. That is why śubha yoga is formed by

planets in the 12th house, whilst it is aśubha when malefics are there.

One suffers on account of this if lagna lord is in the twelfth house.

This is the opposite when lagna lord is in the second house.

 

- vyartha-vyayī; notice

that the word “vyayaśīla†has not been used which means

spendthrift. Instead the correct intepretation is; wasteful-expenditure.

Its hard to differentiate, but point is that the twelfth house is

responsible for making us give to the world, and to give to the right

people at the right time. This giving is a means through which we clear

our debts to our pitris (past seven generations) and the devas, whom we

owe a debt for being born. This is the principle behind the vyayapada

(UL), which is will show where our expenditure is going. If lagneśa goes

to the twelfth house, then this expenditure does not go to the pitris and

devas, and is useless. To counter arguments about the yoga causing

spendthriftness; please examine charts of people with lagneśa in twelfth

house, and not all will be spendthrift, instead for this we need to

analyse the first and twelfth houses from arudha lagna, and kÄraka lagna

(atmakaraka sign), as per Jaimini’s advise.

 

- mahÄkrodhÄ«; when any

planet is in the twelfth house, it will invariably be opposite to the

sixth house, and hence a strong focus of attention comes on the sixth

house. As a result these people have a very good suspicioun about who

their enemies are, however this focus also results in them being able to

see a flaw in any argument. Be it a benefit or a flaw, this causes them

to argue and pick arguments. Just for writing this, i should expect some

with lagneśa in twelfth house to disagree with me... please read

on.

 

Maharishi Parasara finally states; shubhadá¹›gyoga-varjita; the above

happens if the twelfth is devoid of benefic association

(aspect/conjunction).

We may infer that when there are both benefics and malefics aspecting,

that both the good and evil results will manifest depending on the

dasa’s. i.e. a person may have seen the negative results in childhood

but the opposite in later age.

 

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen