Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Friends, As soon as we see Jup with Rahu, we should not be calling a murderer. Though, this could result in serious affliction to Jup. In the given case, Rahu is vargottama and Jup is not.Neecha Rahu is further in Kroora shastiamsa, and in the 6th from AL. 3rd from AL is Mars. Certainly, this person is not a peace loving sadhu. Moon is afflicted by Sat. Venus is his AK, showing some lessons to be learnt with respect to opposite sex.(i do not know why he committed murder) Glk & Mnd join the Guru-chandala yoga. Sins committed by the person can be seen from Trimasamsa. The above are some of the factors that may not be common with the all the persons born with the same combination. regards suryaviswanadham , Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas@g...> wrote: > Dear Soumit > > Hare Rama Krishna > > In his chart (assuming the chart is correct), rahu is the Darakaraka > which is debilitated in 2nd house. Also 2nd house shows the end of > marriage 8th from 7th and see the role of upagraha gullika and mandi > in this chart. Rahu is neecha in navamasa as well and afflicted by > sun. > > See the presence of bandhana yoga leading to imprisonment in the rashi chart. > Running rahu dasha during the murder and investigation. > > This explains the potential problem with wife. > > 2 biggest symbol of dharma jupiter and sun are afflicted jupiter by > rahu and sun by debilitation and being in 12th house. > > Bharat > > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:26:33 -0000, java_sgt <java_sgt> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > I was listening to the Nagpur Conference CD and heard Pdt. > > Sanjay Rath mention the bad effects of Jupiter & Rahu conjunction, > > causing one to be a murderer. > > > > I checked out the chart of Scott Peterson and sure enough he carries > > that particular combination with Rahu & Jupiter in 2nd(October 24, > > 1972 at 9:36 am in San Diego, CA). > > > > My question would be that thousands must have been born on that > > year, having Rahu/Jupiter combo. What was that in his chart (or > > maybe wifes) made him do it? > > > > Soumit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Children International > > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > > > ·Click Here to meet a Girl > > And Give Her Hope > > ·Click Here to meet a Boy > > And Change His Life > > > > Learn More > > > > ________________________________ > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Sri Bharat, Here is another one, John Evander Couey in Florida who molested & murdered a child, and is recently making headlines. I dont know his birth data but he is 46, i.e born in 1958 when Jupiter went conjunct with Rahu. Soumit , Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas@g...> wrote: > Dear Soumit > > Hare Rama Krishna > > In his chart (assuming the chart is correct), rahu is the Darakaraka > which is debilitated in 2nd house. Also 2nd house shows the end of > marriage 8th from 7th and see the role of upagraha gullika and mandi > in this chart. Rahu is neecha in navamasa as well and afflicted by > sun. > > See the presence of bandhana yoga leading to imprisonment in the rashi chart. > Running rahu dasha during the murder and investigation. > > This explains the potential problem with wife. > > 2 biggest symbol of dharma jupiter and sun are afflicted jupiter by > rahu and sun by debilitation and being in 12th house. > > Bharat > > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:26:33 -0000, java_sgt <java_sgt> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > I was listening to the Nagpur Conference CD and heard Pdt. > > Sanjay Rath mention the bad effects of Jupiter & Rahu conjunction, > > causing one to be a murderer. > > > > I checked out the chart of Scott Peterson and sure enough he carries > > that particular combination with Rahu & Jupiter in 2nd(October 24, > > 1972 at 9:36 am in San Diego, CA). > > > > My question would be that thousands must have been born on that > > year, having Rahu/Jupiter combo. What was that in his chart (or > > maybe wifes) made him do it? > > > > Soumit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Children International > > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > > > ·Click Here to meet a Girl > > And Give Her Hope > > ·Click Here to meet a Boy > > And Change His Life > > > > Learn More > > > > ________________________________ > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">Dear Soumit, Namaskar 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">I agree partly with the other comments, but i wanto emphasize a point so that we aren’t carried away with multiple placements of planets in the chart. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">Jupiter ONLY becomes evil when joined Rahu. Even when joined Saturn or Mars he can still produce some good effects in the horoscope, but once Guru-Chandala Yoga occues, Jupiter turns evil. Usually such a combination promises the death of a human being. Whether it be of yourself or someone else you know, or you were in a situation where death occured is really the question. This is why there are soo many possibilities that a Yoga may bring. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">Just to give an example of the versatility of a Yoga, Chandra Kala Nadi states that when Jupiter is in the 10th house forming Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga for Gemini ascendant, then if the person has Mudgara Nadiamsa, then the children of the maternal uncle will prosper. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">Lets look at the logic: Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga would occur in kendra to Lagna. Any bhavas in Kendra to Lagna will hence also prosper due to this Yoga. This means; self (1st), mother (2nd) or spouse (7th). It can also mean children of maternal uncle (5th from 6th, i.e. 10th), or maternal grandmother (4th from 4th, i.e. 7th). Or the children of younger siblings (5th from 3rd i.e. 7th). 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">So with all these possibilities, the particular native with Mudgara Nadiamsa will see their maternal uncles children prosper. This is very specific for the nadiamsa, and the exact reason is beyond me at present. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">So similarly we have many possibilities as to who could suffer from this Guru-Chandala Yoga. Thankfully we know that death is seen in the 3rd from the particular arudha pada. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">- Scotts chart - 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">In the case of Scott Peterson we can see that this Guru-chandala yoga is in the sixth from arudha lagna. This should start making us wonder, as this would be part of his own actions in society. i.e. it will be colored by his own actions. Just as another writer in this thread mentioned; Mars is in the third from arudha lagna, and the native is definitely not peaceful. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">We can see that this combination is aspecting the dual signs. This means that any arudhas falling in movable signs can suffer. We notice that the Upapada is in Gemini, hence this cannot affect the spouse... But we also notice that Upapada is in the twelfth from Arudha Lagna, and its lord is in the twelfth house with a planet in marana karaka sthana. Such a marriage is very difficult to manifest. So we must see the next upapada in Capricorn. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">Capricorn is unoccupied whilst lord of Capricorn is in the seventh house, and is having digbala showing strong possibility of marriage and following the break of the first relationship due to the conjunction with Moon (Moon is lord of the second from the first upapada). Capricorn is along the 3rd/9th axis and can give a relationship during education – they met during college studies. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">Now analyze the second from capricorn. It is unoccupied, and rahu is the lord. Rahu is joined Jupiter showing bad teeth and what not. That is not the real worry – instead look at the rasi dristi of Jupiter and Rahu on the 3rd from Capricorn!! It is coupled by the rasi dristi of Mars and Ketu as well (anger/mistake and very sudden). Ketu usually causes decapitation – and rightly the body of his spouse was found decapitated. Indeed a very grusome crime. Because all these planets have rasi dristi on the ninth from upapada they can also damage the children. The wife was nine months pregnant when it happened. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">So you see, we can actually see these crimes happening from the rasi chart, but if someone had given me this chart i would not have said a word before looking at the navamsa. Jaimini states that planets in the 3rd and 6th from Navamsa lagna indicate ones actions, and can make one kill the spouse or other people. This is different from arudha lagna, because one may not personally kill others in such a case. It is from the navamsa that we determine who is a murderer and who is not. With the time and navamsa given i would have a hard time ascertaining that this man is a murderer, but i would be more convinced had the navamsa lagna been libra instead of virgo. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">Best wishes, font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Bharat Vyas [bharatvyas ] 20 March 2005 10:20 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] The case of Scott Peterson 12.0pt"> 10.0pt">Dear Soumit Hare Rama Krishna In his chart (assuming the chart is correct), rahu is the Darakaraka which is debilitated in 2nd house. Also 2nd house shows the end of marriage 8th from 7th and see the role of upagraha gullika and mandi in this chart. Rahu is neecha in navamasa as well and afflicted by sun. See the presence of bandhana yoga leading to imprisonment in the rashi chart. Running rahu dasha during the murder and investigation. This explains the potential problem with wife. 2 biggest symbol of dharma jupiter and sun are afflicted jupiter by rahu and sun by debilitation and being in 12th house. Bharat On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:26:33 -0000, java_sgt <java_sgt > wrote: > > Dear All, > I was listening to the Nagpur Conference CD and heard Pdt. > Sanjay Rath mention the bad effects of Jupiter & Rahu conjunction, > causing one to be a murderer. > > I checked out the chart of Scott Peterson and sure enough he carries > that particular combination with Rahu & Jupiter in 2nd(October 24, > 1972 at 9:36 am in San Diego, CA). > > My question would be that thousands must have been born on that > year, having Rahu/Jupiter combo. What was that in his chart (or > maybe wifes) made him do it? > > Soumit > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > Sponsor > > > Children International > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > ·Click Here to meet a Girl > And Give Her Hope > ·Click Here to meet a Boy > And Change His Life > > Learn More > > ________________________________ > Links > > > / > > To from this group, send an email to: > > > Your use of is subject to the ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Many thanks for your $0.02 on this subject. And my $2billion to you and the Gurukul for really enriching my life lately by the Nagpur Conference CD which I am religiously following daily on my 1.5-2 hr commute each way to work.(Howard Stern is out) Listening to Pdt Sanjay Rath, Yourself, Sri Bruit, Sri Divekar, Smt Sarkar (and I have more to go) caused me to acheive my first taste of siddhi, and I am compelled to share my rapture with you all. This CD is really cool. It is multi-lingual.For me this was nice since I am blessed with knowing many languages. I loved Ganapati Shotram and I would have also handled Smt Sarkar's mother tounge too, should we have had more representative of a population. My iPod is loaded with Sri PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures and I am a really happy about this aspect at this time. Incedentally all this happens to be during my Rahu-Ketu dasha. My question to you is what do you see my level of involvement in the field of astrology. I consider myself as an enthusiast and am wondering based on your lecture since I have Ketu in my lagna (with Sani) and Ketu in the 7th from my AK (Moon) in the D9 and Jupiter in the 7th from Moon in the Rasi. You may already have my birth info since you have advised me in the past (against a girl, and I followed through). In any case it is 10/24/1962 13:37 N Delhi Regards Soumit Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Soumit, Namaskar I agree partly with the other comments, but i wanto emphasize a point so that we aren’t carried away with multiple placements of planets in the chart. Jupiter ONLY becomes evil when joined Rahu. Even when joined Saturn or Mars he can still produce some good effects in the horoscope, but once Guru-Chandala Yoga occues, Jupiter turns evil. Usually such a combination promises the death of a human being. Whether it be of yourself or someone else you know, or you were in a situation where death occured is really the question. This is why there are soo many possibilities that a Yoga may bring. Just to give an example of the versatility of a Yoga, Chandra Kala Nadi states that when Jupiter is in the 10th house forming Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga for Gemini ascendant, then if the person has Mudgara Nadiamsa, then the children of the maternal uncle will prosper. Lets look at the logic: Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga would occur in kendra to Lagna. Any bhavas in Kendra to Lagna will hence also prosper due to this Yoga. This means; self (1st), mother (2nd) or spouse (7th). It can also mean children of maternal uncle (5th from 6th, i.e. 10th), or maternal grandmother (4th from 4th, i.e. 7th). Or the children of younger siblings (5th from 3rd i.e. 7th). So with all these possibilities, the particular native with Mudgara Nadiamsa will see their maternal uncles children prosper. This is very specific for the nadiamsa, and the exact reason is beyond me at present. So similarly we have many possibilities as to who could suffer from this Guru-Chandala Yoga. Thankfully we know that death is seen in the 3rd from the particular arudha pada. - Scotts chart - In the case of Scott Peterson we can see that this Guru-chandala yoga is in the sixth from arudha lagna. This should start making us wonder, as this would be part of his own actions in society. i.e. it will be colored by his own actions. Just as another writer in this thread mentioned; Mars is in the third from arudha lagna, and the native is definitely not peaceful. We can see that this combination is aspecting the dual signs. This means that any arudhas falling in movable signs can suffer. We notice that the Upapada is in Gemini, hence this cannot affect the spouse... But we also notice that Upapada is in the twelfth from Arudha Lagna, and its lord is in the twelfth house with a planet in marana karaka sthana. Such a marriage is very difficult to manifest. So we must see the next upapada in Capricorn. Capricorn is unoccupied whilst lord of Capricorn is in the seventh house, and is having digbala showing strong possibility of marriage and following the break of the first relationship due to the conjunction with Moon (Moon is lord of the second from the first upapada). Capricorn is along the 3rd/9th axis and can give a relationship during education – they met during college studies. Now analyze the second from capricorn. It is unoccupied, and rahu is the lord. Rahu is joined Jupiter showing bad teeth and what not. That is not the real worry – instead look at the rasi dristi of Jupiter and Rahu on the 3rd from Capricorn!! It is coupled by the rasi dristi of Mars and Ketu as well (anger/mistake and very sudden). Ketu usually causes decapitation – and rightly the body of his spouse was found decapitated. Indeed a very grusome crime. Because all these planets have rasi dristi on the ninth from upapada they can also damage the children. The wife was nine months pregnant when it happened. So you see, we can actually see these crimes happening from the rasi chart, but if someone had given me this chart i would not have said a word before looking at the navamsa. Jaimini states that planets in the 3rd and 6th from Navamsa lagna indicate ones actions, and can make one kill the spouse or other people. This is different from arudha lagna, because one may not personally kill others in such a case. It is from the navamsa that we determine who is a murderer and who is not. With the time and navamsa given i would have a hard time ascertaining that this man is a murderer, but i would be more convinced had the navamsa lagna been libra instead of virgo. Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com http://srigaruda.com Bharat Vyas [bharatvyas ] 20 March 2005 10:20To: Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] The case of Scott Peterson Dear SoumitHare Rama KrishnaIn his chart (assuming the chart is correct), rahu is the Darakarakawhich is debilitated in 2nd house. Also 2nd house shows the end ofmarriage 8th from 7th and see the role of upagraha gullika and mandiin this chart. Rahu is neecha in navamasa as well and afflicted bysun.See the presence of bandhana yoga leading to imprisonment in the rashi chart.Running rahu dasha during the murder and investigation.This explains the potential problem with wife.2 biggest symbol of dharma jupiter and sun are afflicted jupiter byrahu and sun by debilitation and being in 12th house.BharatOn Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:26:33 -0000, java_sgt <java_sgt > wrote:> > Dear All,> I was listening to the Nagpur Conference CD and heard Pdt. > Sanjay Rath mention the bad effects of Jupiter & Rahu conjunction, > causing one to be a murderer.> > I checked out the chart of Scott Peterson and sure enough he carries > that particular combination with Rahu & Jupiter in 2nd(October 24, > 1972 at 9:36 am in San Diego, CA).> > My question would be that thousands must have been born on that > year, having Rahu/Jupiter combo. What was that in his chart (or > maybe wifes) made him do it?> > Soumit> > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today New">> > > Sponsor> > > Children International> Would you give Hope to a Child in need?> > ·Click Here to meet a Girl> And Give Her Hope> ·Click Here to meet a Boy> And Change His Life > > Learn More> > ________________________________> Links> > To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> > To from this group, send an email to:> > > Your use of is subject to the ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today soumit guhajava_sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Soumit, Namaskar Thank you for your encouragement. You are definitely an enthusiast of anything related to the occult, as your Atmakaraka is in the 8th house. You should learn more about the aspects of jyotish which are related to the d-20 chart, so you can advise people about their spiritual path and how to increase their faith. Example; if the 5th lord in Vimsamsa is Mercury ask the person to speak to God, and their faith will increase. Jyotish yes, but focus on the spiritual aspect. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Web: http://srigaruda.com bookman;color:#993366"> & http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Soumit Guha [java_sgt ] 23 March 2005 08:30 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] The case of Scott Peterson 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Sri Visti Larsen, 12.0pt"> Many thanks for your $0.02 on this subject. And my $2billion to you and the Gurukul for really enriching my life lately by the Nagpur Conference CD which I am religiously following daily on my 1.5-2 hr commute each way to work.(Howard Stern is out) 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Listening to Pdt Sanjay Rath, Yourself, Sri Bruit, Sri Divekar, Smt Sarkar (and I have more to go) caused me to acheive my first taste of siddhi, and I am compelled to share my rapture with you all. 12.0pt">This CD is really cool. It is multi-lingual.For me this was nice since I am blessed with knowing many languages. I loved Ganapati Shotram and I would have also handled Smt Sarkar's mother tounge too, should we have had more representative of a population. 12.0pt">My iPod is loaded with Sri PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures and I am a really happy about this aspect at this time. Incedentally all this happens to be during my Rahu-Ketu dasha. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">My question to you is what do you see my level of involvement in the field of astrology. I consider myself as an enthusiast and am wondering based on your lecture since I have Ketu in my lagna (with Sani) and Ketu in the 7th from my AK (Moon) in the D9 and Jupiter in the 7th from Moon in the Rasi. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">You may already have my birth info since you have advised me in the past (against a girl, and I followed through). In any case it is 10/24/1962 13:37 N Delhi 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Regards 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Soumit 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">Dear Soumit, Namaskar 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">I agree partly with the other comments, but i wanto emphasize a point so that we arent carried away with multiple placements of planets in the chart. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">Jupiter ONLY becomes evil when joined Rahu. Even when joined Saturn or Mars he can still produce some good effects in the horoscope, but once Guru-Chandala Yoga occues, Jupiter turns evil. Usually such a combination promises the death of a human being. Whether it be of yourself or someone else you know, or you were in a situation where death occured is really the question. This is why there are soo many possibilities that a Yoga may bring. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">Just to give an example of the versatility of a Yoga, Chandra Kala Nadi states that when Jupiter is in the 10th house forming Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga for Gemini ascendant, then if the person has Mudgara Nadiamsa, then the children of the maternal uncle will prosper. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">Lets look at the logic: Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga would occur in kendra to Lagna. Any bhavas in Kendra to Lagna will hence also prosper due to this Yoga. This means; self (1st), mother (2nd) or spouse (7th). It can also mean children of maternal uncle (5th from 6th, i.e. 10th), or maternal grandmother (4th from 4th, i.e. 7th). Or the children of younger siblings (5th from 3rd i.e. 7th). 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">So with all these possibilities, the particular native with Mudgara Nadiamsa will see their maternal uncles children prosper. This is very specific for the nadiamsa, and the exact reason is beyond me at present. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">So similarly we have many possibilities as to who could suffer from this Guru-Chandala Yoga. Thankfully we know that death is seen in the 3rd from the particular arudha pada. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">- Scotts chart - 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">In the case of Scott Peterson we can see that this Guru-chandala yoga is in the sixth from arudha lagna. This should start making us wonder, as this would be part of his own actions in society. i.e. it will be colored by his own actions. Just as another writer in this thread mentioned; Mars is in the third from arudha lagna, and the native is definitely not peaceful. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">We can see that this combination is aspecting the dual signs. This means that any arudhas falling in movable signs can suffer. We notice that the Upapada is in Gemini, hence this cannot affect the spouse... But we also notice that Upapada is in the twelfth from Arudha Lagna, and its lord is in the twelfth house with a planet in marana karaka sthana. Such a marriage is very difficult to manifest. So we must see the next upapada in Capricorn. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">Capricorn is unoccupied whilst lord of Capricorn is in the seventh house, and is having digbala showing strong possibility of marriage and following the break of the first relationship due to the conjunction with Moon (Moon is lord of the second from the first upapada). Capricorn is along the 3rd/9th axis and can give a relationship during education they met during college studies. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">Now analyze the second from capricorn. It is unoccupied, and rahu is the lord. Rahu is joined Jupiter showing bad teeth and what not. That is not the real worry instead look at the rasi dristi of Jupiter and Rahu on the 3rd from Capricorn!! It is coupled by the rasi dristi of Mars and Ketu as well (anger/mistake and very sudden). Ketu usually causes decapitation and rightly the body of his spouse was found decapitated. Indeed a very grusome crime. Because all these planets have rasi dristi on the ninth from upapada they can also damage the children. The wife was nine months pregnant when it happened. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy"> 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">So you see, we can actually see these crimes happening from the rasi chart, but if someone had given me this chart i would not have said a word before looking at the navamsa. Jaimini states that planets in the 3rd and 6th from Navamsa lagna indicate ones actions, and can make one kill the spouse or other people. This is different from arudha lagna, because one may not personally kill others in such a case. It is from the navamsa that we determine who is a murderer and who is not. With the time and navamsa given i would have a hard time ascertaining that this man is a murderer, but i would be more convinced had the navamsa lagna been libra instead of virgo. 12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy">Best wishes, font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Bharat Vyas [bharatvyas ] 20 March 2005 10:20 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] The case of Scott Peterson 12.0pt"> Dear Soumit Hare Rama Krishna In his chart (assuming the chart is correct), rahu is the Darakaraka which is debilitated in 2nd house. Also 2nd house shows the end of marriage 8th from 7th and see the role of upagraha gullika and mandi in this chart. Rahu is neecha in navamasa as well and afflicted by sun. See the presence of bandhana yoga leading to imprisonment in the rashi chart. Running rahu dasha during the murder and investigation. This explains the potential problem with wife. 2 biggest symbol of dharma jupiter and sun are afflicted jupiter by rahu and sun by debilitation and being in 12th house. Bharat On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:26:33 -0000, java_sgt <java_sgt > wrote: > > Dear All, > I was listening to the Nagpur Conference CD and heard Pdt. > Sanjay Rath mention the bad effects of Jupiter & Rahu conjunction, > causing one to be a murderer. > > I checked out the chart of Scott Peterson and sure enough he carries > that particular combination with Rahu & Jupiter in 2nd(October 24, > 1972 at 9:36 am in San Diego, CA). > > My question would be that thousands must have been born on that > year, having Rahu/Jupiter combo. What was that in his chart (or > maybe wifes) made him do it? > > Soumit > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > Sponsor > > > Children International > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > 7Click Here to meet a Girl > And Give Her Hope > 7Click Here to meet a Boy > And Change His Life > > Learn More > > ________________________________ > Links > > > / > > To from this group, send an email to: > > > Your use of is subject to the ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today 12.0pt"> soumit guha java_sgt ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. 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Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Many thanks for your guidance. SoumitVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Soumit, Namaskar Thank you for your encouragement. You are definitely an enthusiast of anything related to the occult, as your Atmakaraka is in the 8th house. You should learn more about the aspects of jyotish which are related to the d-20 chart, so you can advise people about their spiritual path and how to increase their faith. Example; if the 5th lord in Vimsamsa is Mercury ask the person to speak to God, and their faith will increase. Jyotish yes, but focus on the spiritual aspect. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** Soumit Guha [java_sgt ] 23 March 2005 08:30To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] The case of Scott Peterson Sri Visti Larsen, Many thanks for your $0.02 on this subject. And my $2billion to you and the Gurukul for really enriching my life lately by the Nagpur Conference CD which I am religiously following daily on my 1.5-2 hr commute each way to work.(Howard Stern is out) Listening to Pdt Sanjay Rath, Yourself, Sri Bruit, Sri Divekar, Smt Sarkar (and I have more to go) caused me to acheive my first taste of siddhi, and I am compelled to share my rapture with you all. This CD is really cool. It is multi-lingual.For me this was nice since I am blessed with knowing many languages. I loved Ganapati Shotram and I would have also handled Smt Sarkar's mother tounge too, should we have had more representative of a population. My iPod is loaded with Sri PVR Narasimha Rao's lectures and I am a really happy about this aspect at this time. Incedentally all this happens to be during my Rahu-Ketu dasha. My question to you is what do you see my level of involvement in the field of astrology. I consider myself as an enthusiast and am wondering based on your lecture since I have Ketu in my lagna (with Sani) and Ketu in the 7th from my AK (Moon) in the D9 and Jupiter in the 7th from Moon in the Rasi. You may already have my birth info since you have advised me in the past (against a girl, and I followed through). In any case it is 10/24/1962 13:37 N Delhi Regards Soumit Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Soumit, Namaskar I agree partly with the other comments, but i wanto emphasize a point so that we arent carried away with multiple placements of planets in the chart. Jupiter ONLY becomes evil when joined Rahu. Even when joined Saturn or Mars he can still produce some good effects in the horoscope, but once Guru-Chandala Yoga occues, Jupiter turns evil. Usually such a combination promises the death of a human being. Whether it be of yourself or someone else you know, or you were in a situation where death occured is really the question. This is why there are soo many possibilities that a Yoga may bring. Just to give an example of the versatility of a Yoga, Chandra Kala Nadi states that when Jupiter is in the 10th house forming Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga for Gemini ascendant, then if the person has Mudgara Nadiamsa, then the children of the maternal uncle will prosper. Lets look at the logic: Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga would occur in kendra to Lagna. Any bhavas in Kendra to Lagna will hence also prosper due to this Yoga. This means; self (1st), mother (2nd) or spouse (7th). It can also mean children of maternal uncle (5th from 6th, i.e. 10th), or maternal grandmother (4th from 4th, i.e. 7th). Or the children of younger siblings (5th from 3rd i.e. 7th). So with all these possibilities, the particular native with Mudgara Nadiamsa will see their maternal uncles children prosper. This is very specific for the nadiamsa, and the exact reason is beyond me at present. So similarly we have many possibilities as to who could suffer from this Guru-Chandala Yoga. Thankfully we know that death is seen in the 3rd from the particular arudha pada. - Scotts chart - In the case of Scott Peterson we can see that this Guru-chandala yoga is in the sixth from arudha lagna. This should start making us wonder, as this would be part of his own actions in society. i.e. it will be colored by his own actions. Just as another writer in this thread mentioned; Mars is in the third from arudha lagna, and the native is definitely not peaceful. We can see that this combination is aspecting the dual signs. This means that any arudhas falling in movable signs can suffer. We notice that the Upapada is in Gemini, hence this cannot affect the spouse... But we also notice that Upapada is in the twelfth from Arudha Lagna, and its lord is in the twelfth house with a planet in marana karaka sthana. Such a marriage is very difficult to manifest. So we must see the next upapada in Capricorn. Capricorn is unoccupied whilst lord of Capricorn is in the seventh house, and is having digbala showing strong possibility of marriage and following the break of the first relationship due to the conjunction with Moon (Moon is lord of the second from the first upapada). Capricorn is along the 3rd/9th axis and can give a relationship during education they met during college studies. Now analyze the second from capricorn. It is unoccupied, and rahu is the lord. Rahu is joined Jupiter showing bad teeth and what not. That is not the real worry instead look at the rasi dristi of Jupiter and Rahu on the 3rd from Capricorn!! It is coupled by the rasi dristi of Mars and Ketu as well (anger/mistake and very sudden). Ketu usually causes decapitation and rightly the body of his spouse was found decapitated. Indeed a very grusome crime. Because all these planets have rasi dristi on the ninth from upapada they can also damage the children. The wife was nine months pregnant when it happened. So you see, we can actually see these crimes happening from the rasi chart, but if someone had given me this chart i would not have said a word before looking at the navamsa. Jaimini states that planets in the 3rd and 6th from Navamsa lagna indicate ones actions, and can make one kill the spouse or other people. This is different from arudha lagna, because one may not personally kill others in such a case. It is from the navamsa that we determine who is a murderer and who is not. With the time and navamsa given i would have a hard time ascertaining that this man is a murderer, but i would be more convinced had the navamsa lagna been libra instead of virgo. Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com http://srigaruda.com Bharat Vyas [bharatvyas ] 20 March 2005 10:20To: Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] The case of Scott Peterson Dear SoumitHare Rama KrishnaIn his chart (assuming the chart is correct), rahu is the Darakarakawhich is debilitated in 2nd house. Also 2nd house shows the end ofmarriage 8th from 7th and see the role of upagraha gullika and mandiin this chart. Rahu is neecha in navamasa as well and afflicted bysun.See the presence of bandhana yoga leading to imprisonment in the rashi chart.Running rahu dasha during the murder and investigation.This explains the potential problem with wife.2 biggest symbol of dharma jupiter and sun are afflicted jupiter byrahu and sun by debilitation and being in 12th house.BharatOn Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:26:33 -0000, java_sgt <java_sgt > wrote:> > Dear All,> I was listening to the Nagpur Conference CD and heard Pdt. > Sanjay Rath mention the bad effects of Jupiter & Rahu conjunction, > causing one to be a murderer.> > I checked out the chart of Scott Peterson and sure enough he carries > that particular combination with Rahu & Jupiter in 2nd(October 24, > 1972 at 9:36 am in San Diego, CA).> > My question would be that thousands must have been born on that > year, having Rahu/Jupiter combo. What was that in his chart (or > maybe wifes) made him do it?> > Soumit> > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today New'">> > > Sponsor> > > Children International> Would you give Hope to a Child in need?> > 7Click Here to meet a Girl> And Give Her Hope> 7Click Here to meet a Boy> And Change His Life > > Learn More New">> > ________________________________> Links> > To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> > To from this group, send an email to:> > > Your use of is subject to the ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today soumit guhajava_sgt ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today soumit guhajava_sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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