Guest guest Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 || Om Namah Shivaaya || Dear Vistiji, Namaskar, 1. In your article on Tattva, you explain how to determine the birth Yama. Ths order of Yama lords is given by a clockwise movement around the Kalachakra. There are 8 Yama's in a 24-hour period. Now in Sanjayji's translation of the Jaimini Sutras, (Adhyaya 1 Pada 2), he explains how to find Gulika: "The day duration is divided into 8 parts (called Yama) and, beginning from the weekday lord, in the sequence of the days of the week, each planet owns one part. The eighth is owned by Gulika." Here, there are 16 Yama's in one 24-hour period. Presumably these are two totally different Yama's. If so, What is the latter used for apart from finding Gulika? 2. To continue the above quote: "Thus, Gulika is the ascendant for the time ending the part ruled by Saturn". But Narasimha Rao says that Gulika will rise in the middle portion of Saturn's part. This definition is what JH uses. Which is correct? Thank you and Pranaam, Samir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Samir, Namaskar font-family:"Bookman Old Style"">There are eight Yama and sixteen kala. Kala is darkness and is very evil. The Upagrahas are based on the kala. font-family:"Bookman Old Style"">The default options in Jagannath Hora may not be yours or Sanjayji’s preference. Until recently Sanjayji was convinced that the position of Mandi could not be calculated with Jagannath Hora due to his experience with the prior releases, until i showed him the new option for the eighth kala. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Web: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> & http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Samir Shah [a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk] 10 April 2005 12:08 [Om Krishna Guru] Yamas and Gulika query 12.0pt"> || Om Namah Shivaaya || Dear Vistiji, Namaskar, 1. In your article on Tattva, you explain how to determine the birth Yama. Ths order of Yama lords is given by a clockwise movement around the Kalachakra. There are 8 Yama's in a 24-hour period. Now in Sanjayji's translation of the Jaimini Sutras, (Adhyaya 1 Pada 2), he explains how to find Gulika: "The day duration is divided into 8 parts (called Yama) and, beginning from the weekday lord, in the sequence of the days of the week, each planet owns one part. The eighth is owned by Gulika." Here, there are 16 Yama's in one 24-hour period. Presumably these are two totally different Yama's. If so, What is the latter used for apart from finding Gulika? 2. To continue the above quote: "Thus, Gulika is the ascendant for the time ending the part ruled by Saturn". But Narasimha Rao says that Gulika will rise in the bold">middle portion of Saturn's part. This definition is what JH uses. Which is correct? Thank you and Pranaam, Samir ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 || Om Namah Shivaaya || Dear Vistiji, Namaskar Thank you for that. I'm confused about something else now though: It appears that the Kaala used for calculating the Upagrahas progress in weekday order (with the 8th being lordless). It also appears that this is dependent on local sunrise/sunset times. And then there's the Kaala reckoned from the Kaalachakra. This progresses in clockwise order around the Kalachakra. It is also independent of sunrise/sunset as far as I know, starting at 6am. Hence each period has a fixed time-span. So are these both called Kaala? Could you kindly tell me where I could find Sanjayji's recommendations for the calculation of all the Upagrahas? Pranaam, Samir "Visti Larsen" <visti Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:03 am RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Yamas and Gulika query ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Samir, Namaskar There are eight Yama and sixteen kala. Kala is darkness and is very evil. The Upagrahas are based on the kala. The default options in Jagannath Hora may not be yours or Sanjayji’s preference. Until recently Sanjayji was convinced that the position of Mandi could not be calculated with Jagannath Hora due to his experience with the prior releases, until i showed him the new option for the eighth kala. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Samir, Namaskar First of all there is a kala which follows the Sun, and then there is one which doesn’t. I’m not talking about yama here. The one which follows the Sun will indicate the upagrahas. The one which doesn’t will follow the kala chakra. The one which follows the kala chakra can be used to time when one should perform remedies and is also the one which reveals us the dreaded rahu-kaalam. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Web: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> & 10.0pt;font-family:bookman">http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Samir Shah [a48919062 (AT) (DOT) co.uk] 12 April 2005 07:54 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Yamas and Gulika query 12.0pt"> || Om Namah Shivaaya || Dear Vistiji, Namaskar Thank you for that. I'm confused about something else now though: mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2">It appears that the Kaala used for calculating the Upagrahas progress in weekday order (with the 8th being lordless). It also appears that this is dependent on local sunrise/sunset times. mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2">And then there's the Kaala reckoned from the Kaalachakra. This progresses in clockwise order around the Kalachakra. It is also independent of sunrise/sunset as far as I know, starting at 6am. Hence each period has a fixed time-span. So are these both called Kaala? Could you kindly tell me where I could find Sanjayji's recommendations for the calculation of all the Upagrahas? Pranaam, Samir "Visti Larsen" <visti Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:03 am RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Yamas and Gulika query "Bookman Old Style";color:#FF0080;font-weight:bold">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Samir, Namaskar auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">There are eight Yama and sixteen kala. Kala is darkness and is very evil. The Upagrahas are based on the kala. mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">The default options in Jagannath Hora may not be yours or Sanjayjis preference. Until recently Sanjayji was convinced that the position of Mandi could not be calculated with Jagannath Hora due to his experience with the prior releases, until i showed him the new option for the eighth kala. 12.0pt"> "Bookman Old Style";color:navy">Best wishes, color:#FF0080">*** Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 || Om Namah Shivaaya || Dear Vistiji, Namaskar Many thanks. That clarifies things! Pranaam, Samir "Visti Larsen" <visti Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:46 pm RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Yamas and Gulika query ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Samir, Namaskar First of all there is a kala which follows the Sun, and then there is one which doesn’t. I’m not talking about yama here. The one which follows the Sun will indicate the upagrahas. The one which doesn’t will follow the kala chakra. The one which follows the kala chakra can be used to time when one should perform remedies and is also the one which reveals us the dreaded rahu-kaalam. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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