Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Jai Jinendra Visti and All, Enclosing a date birth of one of an individual,I want group astrologer's to relate his charateristics with his chart. DOB:21st Jan 1969 Place:Mumbai Time:11.05 am Pisces rising,Body is bulky,very sweet in speaking and girly.very Very Very Very afraid of parents,so always in a middle of no where when fights with wife and parents.Her wife is not at all good terms with parents and waiting when going to die. Now funny thing is this person does sex one's in a 2-3 full moon.Every night sleeps on land,as he is having some back problem.His wife wants atleast kiss from him daily,which he some how manages to give by some restrain,But not at all romantic or like to indulge in any such activity. But he is very caring,nice and sweet person.Like sport channels a lot and news too.Invests in stock also,while using his wife's account. So relating above things with chart.Wife will be sweet and good as Navmasa contains Venus in own house.But in natal Venus in 12th seems to be getting good sleep,as he doesn't want any one to disturb his sleep,so sleeps very well.As Venus + Moon in 12th,so drinks a liquor a lot.But sleeping on ground,that i am not able to understand.Jupiter in 7th may be making him little ascetic,but at physical level.Like to be with friends all the time.As 11th Lord in Lagna.Having an affair,I think so...,But may be not to an extreme as he is not of that character.Like to eat a meat a lot.As a way he is from a a day he married. Mars in 8th shows too much sexual indulgence,But Jupiter and Sat opposes takes away.In early age,he must have been involved in such a thing,But afterwards lost such an essence of life,due to too much. I would like other's to decipher his chart. --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Shobha, Namaskar > > Its because friction in the relationship causes this > lack of intimacy. > > I meant Rashi. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti > visti > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > > [] On > Behalf Of shobha S > 27 April 2005 21:48 > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th > house > > > > Dear Vistiji, > Namaskar, > Two questions: > > 1. When you said following (physical/intimate > restraint.) about Mars in 12th, did you mean in > rashi > chart or navamsa? > 2. physical/intimate restraint is because native > won't > be interested or because native is still keen and > doesn't get a companion? > Regards, > Shobha > > > As for Mars in the twelfth, yes i mean > > physical/intimate restraint. > > --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > > Venus in the twelfth house in the navamsa is > > supposed to cause problems in > > getting married. I don't see the problem with its > > placement in the rasi. > > > > Planets/arudhas in the twelfth from lagna or AL > are > > sources of expenditure. > > The native begins to reject this expenditure when > > they are tired of giving. > > They are tired of giving when the lords of lagna > and > > twelfth (or AL and its > > twelfth) are in a strained relationship with each > > other, as a result the > > person cannot meet their expenditure. > > > > > > > > Whilst the Upapada generally shows the attitude > > towards the spouse, Venus > > shows the attitude towards all relationships. > Thats > > why you will usually > > find Venus in a dusthana from the AL in charts of > > renunciates. > > > > > > > > As for Mars in the twelfth, yes i mean > > physical/intimate restraint. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti > > visti > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > & > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of Samir Shah > > 27 April 2005 08:08 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th house > > > > > > > > || Om Krsna Guru || > > > > Dear Vistiji, Namaskar > > > > Thank you for your comments. I have a few > questions > > following your multiple > > comments on this thread. Forgive me if they are > > somewhat simple: > > > > 1. Can I infer from this that Venus in the 12th > is > > likely to cause early > > loss of the spouse, being 6th from the 7th house, > > but it need not > > necessarily cause a strained marital relationship > > (if the lords are well > > placed, so that giving to the spouse is not > > unmanageable)? > > > > 2. Does Venus in the 12th deny or enhance > > bed-pleasures? Having re-read > > the relevant part in COVA, it seems Sanjayji says > > that karaka bhava nasa is > > active in this case (irrespective of chara > > karakatwa), actually denying it. > > Or does it depend more on sign/lordship of Venus? > > > > 3. I'm trying to consolidate your comments with > > what Sanjayji says in COVA. > > He says the 12th house shows the things we lose > > (perhaps unwillingly), while > > the 12th from AL shows what we 'willingly' reject. > > > He says, for example, > > that the Moon in the 12th (from Lagna) causes > > domestic affairs to go awry. > > By extension of this, we could say that Mercury in > > the 12th would make > > educational affairs go awry. > > > > So while a person spends more time on the > karaktwas > > of the planets in the > > 12th from Lagna, they also encounter a lot of > > obstacles/loss with the same. > > > > > > Meanwhile, the person does not spend a lot of time > > on the karaktwas of the > > planets in the 12th from AL , rejecting them > (hence > > Rahu in 12th is a > > rejection of materialism). And sometimes the > > person/entity being rejected > > doesn't like it, and this causes problems. Is my > > understanding correct? > > > > Just to verify: taking Jupiter in the 12th. This > > would be good for sleep, > > meditation etc. But it can also mean the native > > will spend a lot of time on > > their children, and perhaps affairs related to > > children will be somewhat > > amiss. I hope that's the right way of looking at > > it? > > > > 4. By virtue of the fact that it is the karaka > for > > meditation etc., am I > > correct in thinking that it will be beneficial for > > these, even if it is a > > malefic? > > > > 5. Why does Mars in the 12th cause restraint in a > > marital relationship? Do > > you mean physical/intimate restraint? > > > > 6. Regarding 12th from AL. Could you explain the > > difference in results > > between (a) Venus in 12th from AL and (b) UL in > 12th > > from AL? I.e., what is > > the difference between the Karaka (naisargika) of > a > > person, and the pada of > > the house representing that person, being placed > in > > 12th from AL? > > > > I would be very grateful for your guidance. > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Samir > > > > _____ > > > > "Visti Larsen" <visti > > Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:05 pm > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th > > house > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > > First lesson about Yogas; Benefics in the second > or > > twelfth houses are good > > as they cause Shubha yoga. This gives good sleep > and > > good food, as if the > > lagna has been cushioned by two big soft pillows. > > > > Also; a planet in the twelfth house is an expense. > > The native spend alot of > > time on the karakatva of the graha who is in the > > twelfth house. If Moon is > > in the twelfth house, the person will not like to > > leave mother and their > > home-land. If Mercury is there, then > education/vidya > > is never left idle by > > the native, etc. Malefics in the twelfth are not > > good because of this. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti > > visti > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > & > > <http://astrovisti.com/> http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > Achyuta > > Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare > > Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the > > Great who said that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for > > animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one > > free chart reading today > > > === message truncated === > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Jai Jinendra Visti and All, Enclosing a date birth of one of an individual,I want group astrologer's to relate his charateristics with his chart. DOB:21st Jan 1969 Place:Mumbai Time:11.05 am Pisces rising,Body is bulky,very sweet in speaking and girly.very Very Very Very afraid of parents,so always in a middle of no where when fights with wife and parents.His wife is not at all good terms with his parents and waiting when going to die. Every night sleeps on land,as he is having some back problem.His wife wants atleast kiss from him daily,which he some how manages to give by some restrain,But not at all romantic or like to indulge in any such activity.But he is very caring,nice and sweet person.Like sport channels a lot and news too.Invests in stock also. So relating above things with chart.Wife will be sweet and good as Navmasa contains Venus in own house.But in natal Venus in 12th seems to be getting good sleep,as he doesn't want any one to disturb his sleep,so sleeps very well.As Venus + Moon in 12th,so drinks a liquor a lot.But sleeping on ground,that i am not able to understand.Jupiter in 7th may be making him ascetic and nervous with girls on romantic terms.Like to be with friends all the time.As 11th Lord in Lagna.Having an affair,I think so...,But may be not to an extreme as he is not of that character.Like to eat a meat a lot.As a way he is from a a day he married. Mars in 8th shows too much sexual indulgence,But Jupiter and Sat opposes takes away. I would like other's to decipher his chart. --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Shobha, Namaskar > > Its because friction in the relationship causes this > lack of intimacy. > > I meant Rashi. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti > visti > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > > [] On > Behalf Of shobha S > 27 April 2005 21:48 > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th > house > > > > Dear Vistiji, > Namaskar, > Two questions: > > 1. When you said following (physical/intimate > restraint.) about Mars in 12th, did you mean in > rashi > chart or navamsa? > 2. physical/intimate restraint is because native > won't > be interested or because native is still keen and > doesn't get a companion? > Regards, > Shobha > > > As for Mars in the twelfth, yes i mean > > physical/intimate restraint. > > --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > > Venus in the twelfth house in the navamsa is > > supposed to cause problems in > > getting married. I don't see the problem with its > > placement in the rasi. > > > > Planets/arudhas in the twelfth from lagna or AL > are > > sources of expenditure. > > The native begins to reject this expenditure when > > they are tired of giving. > > They are tired of giving when the lords of lagna > and > > twelfth (or AL and its > > twelfth) are in a strained relationship with each > > other, as a result the > > person cannot meet their expenditure. > > > > > > > > Whilst the Upapada generally shows the attitude > > towards the spouse, Venus > > shows the attitude towards all relationships. > Thats > > why you will usually > > find Venus in a dusthana from the AL in charts of > > renunciates. > > > > > > > > As for Mars in the twelfth, yes i mean > > physical/intimate restraint. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti > > visti > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > & > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of Samir Shah > > 27 April 2005 08:08 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th house > > > > > > > > || Om Krsna Guru || > > > > Dear Vistiji, Namaskar > > > > Thank you for your comments. I have a few > questions > > following your multiple > > comments on this thread. Forgive me if they are > > somewhat simple: > > > > 1. Can I infer from this that Venus in the 12th > is > > likely to cause early > > loss of the spouse, being 6th from the 7th house, > > but it need not > > necessarily cause a strained marital relationship > > (if the lords are well > > placed, so that giving to the spouse is not > > unmanageable)? > > > > 2. Does Venus in the 12th deny or enhance > > bed-pleasures? Having re-read > > the relevant part in COVA, it seems Sanjayji says > > that karaka bhava nasa is > > active in this case (irrespective of chara > > karakatwa), actually denying it. > > Or does it depend more on sign/lordship of Venus? > > > > 3. I'm trying to consolidate your comments with > > what Sanjayji says in COVA. > > He says the 12th house shows the things we lose > > (perhaps unwillingly), while > > the 12th from AL shows what we 'willingly' reject. > > > He says, for example, > > that the Moon in the 12th (from Lagna) causes > > domestic affairs to go awry. > > By extension of this, we could say that Mercury in > > the 12th would make > > educational affairs go awry. > > > > So while a person spends more time on the > karaktwas > > of the planets in the > > 12th from Lagna, they also encounter a lot of > > obstacles/loss with the same. > > > > > > Meanwhile, the person does not spend a lot of time > > on the karaktwas of the > > planets in the 12th from AL , rejecting them > (hence > > Rahu in 12th is a > > rejection of materialism). And sometimes the > > person/entity being rejected > > doesn't like it, and this causes problems. Is my > > understanding correct? > > > > Just to verify: taking Jupiter in the 12th. This > > would be good for sleep, > > meditation etc. But it can also mean the native > > will spend a lot of time on > > their children, and perhaps affairs related to > > children will be somewhat > > amiss. I hope that's the right way of looking at > > it? > > > > 4. By virtue of the fact that it is the karaka > for > > meditation etc., am I > > correct in thinking that it will be beneficial for > > these, even if it is a > > malefic? > > > > 5. Why does Mars in the 12th cause restraint in a > > marital relationship? Do > > you mean physical/intimate restraint? > > > > 6. Regarding 12th from AL. Could you explain the > > difference in results > > between (a) Venus in 12th from AL and (b) UL in > 12th > > from AL? I.e., what is > > the difference between the Karaka (naisargika) of > a > > person, and the pada of > > the house representing that person, being placed > in > > 12th from AL? > > > > I would be very grateful for your guidance. > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Samir > > > > _____ > > > > "Visti Larsen" <visti > > Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:05 pm > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th > > house > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > > First lesson about Yogas; Benefics in the second > or > > twelfth houses are good > > as they cause Shubha yoga. This gives good sleep > and > > good food, as if the > > lagna has been cushioned by two big soft pillows. > > > > Also; a planet in the twelfth house is an expense. > > The native spend alot of > > time on the karakatva of the graha who is in the > > twelfth house. If Moon is > > in the twelfth house, the person will not like to > > leave mother and their > > home-land. If Mercury is there, then > education/vidya > > is never left idle by > > the native, etc. Malefics in the twelfth are not > > good because of this. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti > > visti > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > & > > <http://astrovisti.com/> http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > Achyuta > > Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare > > Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the > > Great who said that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for > > animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one > > free chart reading today > > > === message truncated === > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Mr. Doshi: With such fantastic English I once again urge you to write a SEX Thriller script. Perhaps some one from Bollywood would even make a movie on it !! Shripal <d_shripal wrote: Jai Jinendra Visti and All, Enclosing a date birth of one of an individual,I want group astrologer's to relate his charateristics with his chart. DOB:21st Jan 1969 Place:Mumbai Time:11.05 am Pisces rising,Body is bulky,very sweet in speaking and girly.very Very Very Very afraid of parents,so always in a middle of no where when fights with wife and parents.His wife is not at all good terms with his parents and waiting when going to die. Every night sleeps on land,as he is having some back problem.His wife wants atleast kiss from him daily,which he some how manages to give by some restrain,But not at all romantic or like to indulge in any such activity.But he is very caring,nice and sweet person.Like sport channels a lot and news too.Invests in stock also. So relating above things with chart.Wife will be sweet and good as Navmasa contains Venus in own house.But in natal Venus in 12th seems to be getting good sleep,as he doesn't want any one to disturb his sleep,so sleeps very well.As Venus + Moon in 12th,so drinks a liquor a lot.But sleeping on ground,that i am not able to understand.Jupiter in 7th may be making him ascetic and nervous with girls on romantic terms.Like to be with friends all the time.As 11th Lord in Lagna.Having an affair,I think so...,But may be not to an extreme as he is not of that character.Like to eat a meat a lot.As a way he is from a a day he married. Mars in 8th shows too much sexual indulgence,But Jupiter and Sat opposes takes away. I would like other's to decipher his chart. --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Shobha, Namaskar > > Its because friction in the relationship causes this > lack of intimacy. > > I meant Rashi. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti > visti > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > > [] On > Behalf Of shobha S > 27 April 2005 21:48 > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th > house > > > > Dear Vistiji, > Namaskar, > Two questions: > > 1. When you said following (physical/intimate > restraint.) about Mars in 12th, did you mean in > rashi > chart or navamsa? > 2. physical/intimate restraint is because native > won't > be interested or because native is still keen and > doesn't get a companion? > Regards, > Shobha > > > As for Mars in the twelfth, yes i mean > > physical/intimate restraint. > > --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > > Venus in the twelfth house in the navamsa is > > supposed to cause problems in > > getting married. I don't see the problem with its > > placement in the rasi. > > > > Planets/arudhas in the twelfth from lagna or AL > are > > sources of expenditure. > > The native begins to reject this expenditure when > > they are tired of giving. > > They are tired of giving when the lords of lagna > and > > twelfth (or AL and its > > twelfth) are in a strained relationship with each > > other, as a result the > > person cannot meet their expenditure. > > > > > > > > Whilst the Upapada generally shows the attitude > > towards the spouse, Venus > > shows the attitude towards all relationships. > Thats > > why you will usually > > find Venus in a dusthana from the AL in charts of > > renunciates. > > > > > > > > As for Mars in the twelfth, yes i mean > > physical/intimate restraint. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti > > visti > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > & > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of Samir Shah > > 27 April 2005 08:08 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th house > > > > > > > > || Om Krsna Guru || > > > > Dear Vistiji, Namaskar > > > > Thank you for your comments. I have a few > questions > > following your multiple > > comments on this thread. Forgive me if they are > > somewhat simple: > > > > 1. Can I infer from this that Venus in the 12th > is > > likely to cause early > > loss of the spouse, being 6th from the 7th house, > > but it need not > > necessarily cause a strained marital relationship > > (if the lords are well > > placed, so that giving to the spouse is not > > unmanageable)? > > > > 2. Does Venus in the 12th deny or enhance > > bed-pleasures? Having re-read > > the relevant part in COVA, it seems Sanjayji says > > that karaka bhava nasa is > > active in this case (irrespective of chara > > karakatwa), actually denying it. > > Or does it depend more on sign/lordship of Venus? > > > > 3. I'm trying to consolidate your comments with > > what Sanjayji says in COVA. > > He says the 12th house shows the things we lose > > (perhaps unwillingly), while > > the 12th from AL shows what we 'willingly' reject. > > > He says, for example, > > that the Moon in the 12th (from Lagna) causes > > domestic affairs to go awry. > > By extension of this, we could say that Mercury in > > the 12th would make > > educational affairs go awry. > > > > So while a person spends more time on the > karaktwas > > of the planets in the > > 12th from Lagna, they also encounter a lot of > > obstacles/loss with the same. > > > > > > Meanwhile, the person does not spend a lot of time > > on the karaktwas of the > > planets in the 12th from AL , rejecting them > (hence > > Rahu in 12th is a > > rejection of materialism). And sometimes the > > person/entity being rejected > > doesn't like it, and this causes problems. Is my > > understanding correct? > > > > Just to verify: taking Jupiter in the 12th. This > > would be good for sleep, > > meditation etc. But it can also mean the native > > will spend a lot of time on > > their children, and perhaps affairs related to > > children will be somewhat > > amiss. I hope that's the right way of looking at > > it? > > > > 4. By virtue of the fact that it is the karaka > for > > meditation etc., am I > > correct in thinking that it will be beneficial for > > these, even if it is a > > malefic? > > > > 5. Why does Mars in the 12th cause restraint in a > > marital relationship? Do > > you mean physical/intimate restraint? > > > > 6. Regarding 12th from AL. Could you explain the > > difference in results > > between (a) Venus in 12th from AL and (b) UL in > 12th > > from AL? I.e., what is > > the difference between the Karaka (naisargika) of > a > > person, and the pada of > > the house representing that person, being placed > in > > 12th from AL? > > > > I would be very grateful for your guidance. > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Samir > > > > _____ > > > > "Visti Larsen" <visti > > Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:05 pm > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th > > house > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > > First lesson about Yogas; Benefics in the second > or > > twelfth houses are good > > as they cause Shubha yoga. This gives good sleep > and > > good food, as if the > > lagna has been cushioned by two big soft pillows. > > > > Also; a planet in the twelfth house is an expense. > > The native spend alot of > > time on the karakatva of the graha who is in the > > twelfth house. If Moon is > > in the twelfth house, the person will not like to > > leave mother and their > > home-land. If Mercury is there, then > education/vidya > > is never left idle by > > the native, etc. Malefics in the twelfth are not > > good because of this. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti > > visti > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > & > > <http://astrovisti.com/> http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > Achyuta > > Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare > > Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the > > Great who said that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for > > animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one > > free chart reading today > > > === message truncated === > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Shripal, Namaskar Venus’ position alone is not enough to talk about the spouse. Saturn in the lagna shows why he likes to drink, and since it aspects the arudha lagna, it is a social phenomena (he drinks with friends). He should however lessen his drink as Saturn is in marana karaka sthana, and will begin to negatively affect his immune system and sleep (twelfth house). Mars in eighth house also causes physical separation. I have never seen Mars in eighth cause excess passions. Infact this Mars is in enemies sign and being the lord of the vara, it shows that due to health issues he has physical separation from the spouse. Lagnesha is in the seventh house, hence he is very attached to his spouses opinion and also the opinion of his friends and social circle. But his sleep is comfortable. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Web: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> & http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of Shripal 28 April 2005 09:59 [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th house--Sr Ast comment 12.0pt"> 10.0pt">Jai Jinendra Visti and All, Enclosing a date birth of one of an individual,I want group astrologer's to relate his charateristics with his chart. DOB:21st Jan 1969 Place:Mumbai Time:11.05 am Pisces rising,Body is bulky,very sweet in speaking and girly.very Very Very Very afraid of parents,so always in a middle of no where when fights with wife and parents.His wife is not at all good terms with his parents and waiting when going to die. Every night sleeps on land,as he is having some back problem.His wife wants atleast kiss from him daily,which he some how manages to give by some restrain,But not at all romantic or like to indulge in any such activity.But he is very caring,nice and sweet person.Like sport channels a lot and news too.Invests in stock also. So relating above things with chart.Wife will be sweet and good as Navmasa contains Venus in own house.But in natal Venus in 12th seems to be getting good sleep,as he doesn't want any one to disturb his sleep,so sleeps very well.As Venus + Moon in 12th,so drinks a liquor a lot.But sleeping on ground,that i am not able to understand.Jupiter in 7th may be making him ascetic and nervous with girls on romantic terms.Like to be with friends all the time.As 11th Lord in Lagna.Having an affair,I think so...,But may be not to an extreme as he is not of that character.Like to eat a meat a lot.As a way he is from a a day he married. Mars in 8th shows too much sexual indulgence,But Jupiter and Sat opposes takes away. I would like other's to decipher his chart. --- Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Shobha, Namaskar > > Its because friction in the relationship causes this > lack of intimacy. > > I meant Rashi. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > > [] On > Behalf Of shobha S > 27 April 2005 21:48 > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th > house > > > > Dear Vistiji, > Namaskar, > Two questions: > > 1. When you said following (physical/intimate > restraint.) about Mars in 12th, did you mean in > rashi > chart or navamsa? > 2. physical/intimate restraint is because native > won't > be interested or because native is still keen and > doesn't get a companion? > Regards, > Shobha > > > As for Mars in the twelfth, yes i mean > > physical/intimate restraint. > > --- Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > > Venus in the twelfth house in the navamsa is > > supposed to cause problems in > > getting married. I don't see the problem with its > > placement in the rasi. > > > > Planets/arudhas in the twelfth from lagna or AL > are > > sources of expenditure. > > The native begins to reject this expenditure when > > they are tired of giving. > > They are tired of giving when the lords of lagna > and > > twelfth (or AL and its > > twelfth) are in a strained relationship with each > > other, as a result the > > person cannot meet their expenditure. > > > > > > > > Whilst the Upapada generally shows the attitude > > towards the spouse, Venus > > shows the attitude towards all relationships. > Thats > > why you will usually > > find Venus in a dusthana from the AL in charts of > > renunciates. > > > > > > > > As for Mars in the twelfth, yes i mean > > physical/intimate restraint. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > & > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of Samir Shah > > 27 April 2005 08:08 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th house > > > > > > > > || Om Krsna Guru || > > > > Dear Vistiji, Namaskar > > > > Thank you for your comments. I have a few > questions > > following your multiple > > comments on this thread. Forgive me if they are > > somewhat simple: > > > > 1. Can I infer from this that Venus in the 12th > is > > likely to cause early > > loss of the spouse, being 6th from the 7th house, > > but it need not > > necessarily cause a strained marital relationship > > (if the lords are well > > placed, so that giving to the spouse is not > > unmanageable)? > > > > 2. Does Venus in the 12th deny or enhance > > bed-pleasures? Having re-read > > the relevant part in COVA, it seems Sanjayji says > > that karaka bhava nasa is > > active in this case (irrespective of chara > > karakatwa), actually denying it. > > Or does it depend more on sign/lordship of Venus? > > > > 3. I'm trying to consolidate your comments with > > what Sanjayji says in COVA. > > He says the 12th house shows the things we lose > > (perhaps unwillingly), while > > the 12th from AL shows what we 'willingly' reject. > > > He says, for example, > > that the Moon in the 12th (from Lagna) causes > > domestic affairs to go awry. > > By extension of this, we could say that Mercury in > > the 12th would make > > educational affairs go awry. > > > > So while a person spends more time on the > karaktwas > > of the planets in the > > 12th from Lagna, they also encounter a lot of > > obstacles/loss with the same. > > > > > > Meanwhile, the person does not spend a lot of time > > on the karaktwas of the > > planets in the 12th from AL , rejecting them > (hence > > Rahu in 12th is a > > rejection of materialism). And sometimes the > > person/entity being rejected > > doesn't like it, and this causes problems. Is my > > understanding correct? > > > > Just to verify: taking Jupiter in the 12th. This > > would be good for sleep, > > meditation etc. But it can also mean the native > > will spend a lot of time on > > their children, and perhaps affairs related to > > children will be somewhat > > amiss. I hope that's the right way of looking at > > it? > > > > 4. By virtue of the fact that it is the karaka > for > > meditation etc., am I > > correct in thinking that it will be beneficial for > > these, even if it is a > > malefic? > > > > 5. Why does Mars in the 12th cause restraint in a > > marital relationship? Do > > you mean physical/intimate restraint? > > > > 6. Regarding 12th from AL. Could you explain the > > difference in results > > between (a) Venus in 12th from AL and (b) UL in > 12th > > from AL? I.e., what is > > the difference between the Karaka (naisargika) of > a > > person, and the pada of > > the house representing that person, being placed > in > > 12th from AL? > > > > I would be very grateful for your guidance. > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Samir > > > > _____ > > > > "Visti Larsen" <visti > > Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:05 pm > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th > > house > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > > First lesson about Yogas; Benefics in the second > or > > twelfth houses are good > > as they cause Shubha yoga. This gives good sleep > and > > good food, as if the > > lagna has been cushioned by two big soft pillows. > > > > Also; a planet in the twelfth house is an expense. > > The native spend alot of > > time on the karakatva of the graha who is in the > > twelfth house. If Moon is > > in the twelfth house, the person will not like to > > leave mother and their > > home-land. If Mercury is there, then > education/vidya > > is never left idle by > > the native, etc. Malefics in the twelfth are not > > good because of this. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > & > > <http://astrovisti.com/> http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > Achyuta > > Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare > > Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the > > Great who said that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for > > animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one > > free chart reading today > > > === message truncated === > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 2) Jupiter & Ketu in the seven house.Typical Nagam Dosham caused curved Kanya(Girl Unmrried).It can happen due to Devatha.Nagam Dosham need to be cleared for Happy conjugal life 3)Venus & Moon in the 12th,Wants Comfortable sleep.But 6th Lord in the & 8 Lord in the 12th house and saturn with Rahu.How To sleep with wife. You need more to Discuss the issue. rsmaniam . Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Shripal, Namaskar Venus’ position alone is not enough to talk about the spouse. Saturn in the lagna shows why he likes to drink, and since it aspects the arudha lagna, it is a social phenomena (he drinks with friends). He should however lessen his drink as Saturn is in marana karaka sthana, and will begin to negatively affect his immune system and sleep (twelfth house). Mars in eighth house also causes physical separation. I have never seen Mars in eighth cause excess passions. Infact this Mars is in enemies sign and being the lord of the vara, it shows that due to health issues he has physical separation from the spouse. Lagnesha is in the seventh house, hence he is very attached to his spouses opinion and also the opinion of his friends and social circle. But his sleep is comfortable. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Shripal28 April 2005 09:59To: Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th house--Sr Ast comment Jai Jinendra Visti and All,Enclosing a date birth of one of an individual,I wantgroup astrologer's to relate his charateristics withhis chart.DOB:21st Jan 1969Place:MumbaiTime:11.05 amPisces rising,Body is bulky,very sweet in speaking andgirly.very Very Very Very afraid of parents,so alwaysin a middle of no where when fights with wife andparents.His wife is not at all good terms with hisparents and waiting when going to die.Every night sleeps on land,as he is having some backproblem.His wife wants atleast kiss from himdaily,which he some how manages to give by somerestrain,But not at all romantic or like to indulge inany such activity.But he is very caring,nice and sweetperson.Like sport channels a lot and news too.Investsin stock also.So relating above things with chart.Wife will be sweetand good as Navmasa contains Venus in own house.But in New">natal Venus in 12th seems to be getting good sleep,ashe doesn't want any one to disturb his sleep,so sleepsvery well.As Venus + Moon in 12th,so drinks a liquor alot.But sleeping on ground,that i am not able tounderstand.Jupiter in 7th may be making him asceticand nervous with girls on romantic terms.Like to bewith friends all the time.As 11th Lord in Lagna.Havingan affair,I think so...,But may be not to an extremeas he is not of that character.Like to eat a meat alot.As a way he is from a a day he married.Mars in 8th shows too much sexual indulgence,ButJupiter and Sat opposes takes away.I would like other's to decipher his chart.--- Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Shobha, Namaskar> > Its because friction in the relationship causes this> lack of intimacy.> > I meant Rashi.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > Email: <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> http://astrovisti.com> > ***> > _____ > > > [] On> Behalf Of shobha S> 27 April 2005 21:48> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th> house> > > > Dear Vistiji,> Namaskar,> Two questions:> > 1. When you said following (physical/intimate> restraint.) about Mars in 12th, did you mean in> rashi> chart or navamsa?> 2. physical/intimate restraint is because native> won't> be interested or because native is still keen and> doesn't get a companion?> Regards,> Shobha> > > As for Mars in the twelfth, yes i mean> > physical/intimate restraint.> > --- Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > Dear Samir, Namaskar> > > > Venus in the twelfth house in the navamsa is> > supposed to cause problems in> > getting married. I don't see the problem with its> > placement in the rasi.> > > > Planets/arudhas in the twelfth from lagna or AL> are> > sources of expenditure.> > The native begins to reject this expenditure when> > they are tired of giving.> > They are tired of giving when the lords of lagna> and> > twelfth (or AL and its> > twelfth) are in a strained relationship with each> > other, as a result the> > person cannot meet their expenditure.> > > > > > > > Whilst the Upapada generally shows the attitude> > towards the spouse, Venus> > shows the attitude towards all relationships.> Thats> > why you will usually> > find Venus in a dusthana from the AL in charts of> > renunciates.> > > > > > > > As for Mars in the twelfth, yes i mean> > physical/intimate restraint.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > ***> > > > Visti Larsen> > > > Email: <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> > visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com> & > > <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> > http://astrovisti.com> > > > ***> > > > _____ > > > > > > [] On> > Behalf Of Samir Shah> > 27 April 2005 08:08> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th house> > > > > > > > || Om Krsna Guru ||> > > > Dear Vistiji, Namaskar> > > > Thank you for your comments. I have a few> questions> > following your multiple> > comments on this thread. Forgive me if they are> > somewhat simple:> > > > 1. Can I infer from this that Venus in the 12th> is> > likely to cause early> > loss of the spouse, being 6th from the 7th house,> > but it need not> > necessarily cause a strained marital relationship> > (if the lords are well> > placed, so that giving to the spouse is not> > unmanageable)?> > > > 2. Does Venus in the 12th deny or enhance> > bed-pleasures? Having re-read> > the relevant part in COVA, it seems Sanjayji says> > that karaka bhava nasa is> > active in this case (irrespective of chara> > karakatwa), actually denying it.> > Or does it depend more on sign/lordship of Venus?> > > > 3. I'm trying to consolidate your comments with> > what Sanjayji says in COVA.> > He says the 12th house shows the things we lose> > (perhaps unwillingly), while> > the 12th from AL shows what we 'willingly' reject.> > > He says, for example,> > that the Moon in the 12th (from Lagna) causes> > domestic affairs to go awry.> > By extension of this, we could say that Mercury in> > the 12th would make> > educational affairs go awry.> > > > So while a person spends more time on the> karaktwas> > of the planets in the> > 12th from Lagna, they also encounter a lot of> > obstacles/loss with the same.> > > > > > Meanwhile, the person does not spend a lot of time> > on the karaktwas of the> > planets in the 12th from AL , rejecting them> (hence> > Rahu in 12th is a> > rejection of materialism). And sometimes the> > person/entity being rejected> > doesn't like it, and this causes problems. Is my> > understanding correct?> > > > Just to verify: taking Jupiter in the 12th. This> > would be good for sleep,> > meditation etc. But it can also mean the native> > will spend a lot of time on> > their children, and perhaps affairs related to> > children will be somewhat> > amiss. I hope that's the right way of looking at> > it?> > > > 4. By virtue of the fact that it is the karaka> for> > meditation etc., am I> > correct in thinking that it will be beneficial for> > these, even if it is a> > malefic?> > > > 5. Why does Mars in the 12th cause restraint in a> > marital relationship? Do> > you mean physical/intimate restraint?> > > > 6. Regarding 12th from AL. Could you explain the> > difference in results> > between (a) Venus in 12th from AL and (b) UL in> 12th> > from AL? I.e., what is> > the difference between the Karaka (naisargika) of> a> > person, and the pada of> > the house representing that person, being placed> in> > 12th from AL?> > > > I would be very grateful for your guidance.> > > > Pranaam,> > > > Samir > > > > _____ > > > > "Visti Larsen" <visti > > Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:05 pm > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th> > house > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > Dear Samir, Namaskar> > > > First lesson about Yogas; Benefics in the second> or> > twelfth houses are good> > as they cause Shubha yoga. This gives good sleep> and> > good food, as if the> > lagna has been cushioned by two big soft pillows. > > > > Also; a planet in the twelfth house is an expense.> > The native spend alot of> > time on the karakatva of the graha who is in the> > twelfth house. If Moon is> > in the twelfth house, the person will not like to> > leave mother and their> > home-land. If Mercury is there, then> education/vidya> > is never left idle by> > the native, etc. Malefics in the twelfth are not> > good because of this.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > ***> > > > Visti Larsen> > > > Email: <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> > visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com New">> &> > <http://astrovisti.com/> http://astrovisti.com> > > > ***> > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the> Achyuta> > Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare> > Rama Krishna'> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the> > Great who said that the> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for> > animals.> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one> > free chart reading today > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta> Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare> Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the> Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for> animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one> free chart reading today > > > > > _____ > > Links> > * To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> New">> * > ><?subject=Un>> > > * > <> Terms of> Service. > > Love is the beauty of the soulTired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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