Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Jai Jinendra Visti, Yes you are right Physical seperation is because of health issues.Attached to wife is also correct. Sleep he wants always to be comfortable,He never sacrifice his sleep for anything. He is engaged in Accountant job.Started studies,But never got completd and in a middle itself he stopped his LLB. He is working in a same firm for last 12 years.A designation what he achieved in last so many years,his wife achieved it very early. Constant fight is there everyday with parents and because of parents with Wife. He doen't really take responsibilities very well and still a way he is,way he was last 10 years. Wife and Husband both have bought house,But cannot go for stay or even cannot go out for vacation,because of parents.As his parents are sarcastic and he himself is fed up with them.so when will they be free from parents.Can that be judge from chart. Praveenji,I said sweet in spoken because not only in terms of discipline,But also voice tone and wy a girl talks.Even his way of seeing and walking is also girly kind of. If you need to rectify Navamasa,Please do that,as they always make a mistake in time of 15mins or so in saying. As he scared of parents cannot take his wife fo party too,some sort of disagreement arises and rsult in to fight.even he cries sometimes and cannot see anything or anyone in pain.A polite person. Visitiji,Prveenji,above mentioned points,Please validate it through chart for a student like us to understand practically. --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Shripal, Namaskar > > Venus' position alone is not enough to talk about > the spouse. > > Saturn in the lagna shows why he likes to drink, and > since it aspects the > arudha lagna, it is a social phenomena (he drinks > with friends). He should > however lessen his drink as Saturn is in marana > karaka sthana, and will > begin to negatively affect his immune system and > sleep (twelfth house). > > Mars in eighth house also causes physical > separation. I have never seen Mars > in eighth cause excess passions. Infact this Mars is > in enemies sign and > being the lord of the vara, it shows that due to > health issues he has > physical separation from the spouse. > > Lagnesha is in the seventh house, hence he is very > attached to his spouses > opinion and also the opinion of his friends and > social circle. > > But his sleep is comfortable. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti > visti > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > > [] On > Behalf Of Shripal > 28 April 2005 09:59 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th > house--Sr Ast comment > > > > Jai Jinendra Visti and All, > > Enclosing a date birth of one of an individual,I > want > group astrologer's to relate his charateristics with > his chart. > DOB:21st Jan 1969 > Place:Mumbai > Time:11.05 am > > Pisces rising,Body is bulky,very sweet in speaking > and > girly.very Very Very Very afraid of parents,so > always > in a middle of no where when fights with wife and > parents.His wife is not at all good terms with his > parents and waiting when going to die. > > Every night sleeps on land,as he is having some back > problem.His wife wants atleast kiss from him > daily,which he some how manages to give by some > restrain,But not at all romantic or like to indulge > in > any such activity.But he is very caring,nice and > sweet > person.Like sport channels a lot and news > too.Invests > in stock also. > > So relating above things with chart.Wife will be > sweet > and good as Navmasa contains Venus in own house.But > in > natal Venus in 12th seems to be getting good > sleep,as > he doesn't want any one to disturb his sleep,so > sleeps > very well.As Venus + Moon in 12th,so drinks a liquor > a > lot.But sleeping on ground,that i am not able to > understand.Jupiter in 7th may be making him ascetic > and nervous with girls on romantic terms.Like to be > with friends all the time.As 11th Lord in > Lagna.Having > an affair,I think so...,But may be not to an extreme > as he is not of that character.Like to eat a meat a > lot.As a way he is from a a day he married. > > Mars in 8th shows too much sexual indulgence,But > Jupiter and Sat opposes takes away. > > I would like other's to decipher his chart. > > > --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Shobha, Namaskar > > > > Its because friction in the relationship causes > this > > lack of intimacy. > > > > I meant Rashi. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti > > visti > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > & > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of shobha S > > 27 April 2005 21:48 > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th > > house > > > > > > > > Dear Vistiji, > > Namaskar, > > Two questions: > > > > 1. When you said following (physical/intimate > > restraint.) about Mars in 12th, did you mean in > > rashi > > chart or navamsa? > > 2. physical/intimate restraint is because native > > won't > > be interested or because native is still keen and > > doesn't get a companion? > > Regards, > > Shobha > > > > > As for Mars in the twelfth, yes i mean > > > physical/intimate restraint. > > > > --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > > > > Venus in the twelfth house in the navamsa is > > > supposed to cause problems in > > > getting married. I don't see the problem with > its > > > placement in the rasi. > > > > > > Planets/arudhas in the twelfth from lagna or AL > > are > > > sources of expenditure. > > > The native begins to reject this expenditure > when > > > they are tired of giving. > > > They are tired of giving when the lords of lagna > > and > > > twelfth (or AL and its > > > twelfth) are in a strained relationship with > each > > > other, as a result the > > > person cannot meet their expenditure. > > > > > > > > > > > > Whilst the Upapada generally shows the attitude > > > towards the spouse, Venus > > > shows the attitude towards all relationships. > > Thats > > > why you will usually > > > find Venus in a dusthana from the AL in charts > of > > > renunciates. > > > > > > > > > > > > As for Mars in the twelfth, yes i mean > > > physical/intimate restraint. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > Email: <visti > > > visti > > > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> > http://srigaruda.com > > & > > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of Samir Shah > > > 27 April 2005 08:08 > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th > house > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Krsna Guru || > > > > > > Dear Vistiji, Namaskar > > > > > > Thank you for your comments. I have a few > > questions > > > following your multiple > > > comments on this thread. Forgive me if they are > > > somewhat simple: > > > > > > 1. Can I infer from this that Venus in the 12th > > is > > > likely to cause early > > > loss of the spouse, being 6th from the 7th > house, > > > but it need not > > > necessarily cause a strained marital > relationship > > > (if the lords are well > > > placed, so that giving to the spouse is not > > > unmanageable)? > > > > > > 2. Does Venus in the 12th deny or enhance > > > bed-pleasures? Having re-read > > > the relevant part in COVA, it seems Sanjayji > says > > > that karaka bhava nasa is > > > active in this case (irrespective of chara > > > karakatwa), actually denying it. > > > Or does it depend more on sign/lordship of > Venus? > > > > > > 3. I'm trying to consolidate your comments with > > > what Sanjayji says in COVA. > > > He says the 12th house shows the things we lose > > > (perhaps unwillingly), while > > > the 12th from AL shows what we 'willingly' > reject. > > > > > He says, for example, > > > that the Moon in the 12th (from Lagna) causes > > > domestic affairs to go awry. > > > By extension of this, we could say that Mercury > in > > > the 12th would make > > > educational affairs go awry. > > > > > > So while a person spends more time on the > > karaktwas > > > of the planets in the > > > 12th from Lagna, they also encounter a lot of > > > obstacles/loss with the same. > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile, the person does not spend a lot of > time > > > on the karaktwas of the > > > planets in the 12th from AL , rejecting them > > (hence > > > Rahu in 12th is a > > > rejection of materialism). And sometimes the > > > person/entity being rejected > > > doesn't like it, and this causes problems. Is > my > > > understanding correct? > > > > > > Just to verify: taking Jupiter in the 12th. > This > > > would be good for sleep, > > > meditation etc. But it can also mean the native > > > will spend a lot of time on > > > their children, and perhaps affairs related to > > > children will be somewhat > > > amiss. I hope that's the right way of looking > at > > > it? > > > > > > 4. By virtue of the fact that it is the karaka > > for > > > meditation etc., am I > > > correct in thinking that it will be beneficial > for > > > these, even if it is a > > > malefic? > > > > > > 5. Why does Mars in the 12th cause restraint in > a > > > marital relationship? Do > > > you mean physical/intimate restraint? > > > > > > 6. Regarding 12th from AL. Could you explain > the > > > difference in results > > > between (a) Venus in 12th from AL and (b) UL in > > 12th > > > from AL? I.e., what is > > > the difference between the Karaka (naisargika) > of > > a > > > person, and the pada of > > > the house representing that person, being placed > > in > > > 12th from AL? > > > > > > I would be very grateful for your guidance. > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Samir > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > "Visti Larsen" <visti > > > Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:05 pm > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Venus in 12th > > > house > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > > > > > First lesson about Yogas; Benefics in the second > > or > > > twelfth houses are good > > > as they cause Shubha yoga. This gives good sleep > > and > > > good food, as if the > > > lagna has been cushioned by two big soft > pillows. > > > > > > Also; a planet in the twelfth house is an > expense. > > > The native spend alot of > > > time on the karakatva of the graha who is in the > > > twelfth house. If Moon is > > > in the twelfth house, the person will not like > to > > > leave mother and their > > > home-land. If Mercury is there, then > > education/vidya > > > is never left idle by > > > the native, etc. Malefics in the twelfth are not > > > good because of this. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > Email: <visti > > > visti > > > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> > http://srigaruda.com > > & > > > <http://astrovisti.com/> http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > Achyuta > > > Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra > 'Hare > > > Rama Krishna' > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > the > > > Great who said that the > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > animals. > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do > one > > > free chart reading today > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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