Trines in D-9, Abilities from Parivriti D-3 / Guru Visti ji and Samir

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Om Ganeshay Namah

Dear Guru Visti,

Pranam. Heartening to see you back.

Dear Guru and Samir,

I wonder if the malefics in trines give this effect (I read it earlier

also); what if the planet that is AK is malefic itself? Does it not

give the same tendencies as being the seat of Karakamsha being decided

by that planet only, sitting in both a quadrant and a trine in a way?

 

Regards,

Radhekrishna!

Himanshu Mohan

 

, Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma> wrote:

> ||Shree Gurubyoh namah||

>

> Namaste visti, and samir

> Thanks for pointing out the correction. I replied from

> what I remembered and I had read these a long while

> ago. Now after your mail I do remember reading

> papadwaye mantrika. Thanks for the corrections and I

> do stand corrected.

>

> Lakshman

>

>

>

>

>

> Mail

> Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour:

> http://tour.mail./mailtour.html

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|| Om Krsna Guru ||

 

Dear Himanshu, Namaskar

 

If we consider the reason given by Vistiji, I think the answer will

be yes. A malefic AK is going to cause suffering, while at the same

time it is going to lead the soul towards the Godhead. So it will

make the native learn such methods. If there are no other planets

then this will mean only mantra, whilst having more malefics in

trines adds tantra and yantra to the list.

 

On a slight tangent, I was contemplating what malefics in trines to

Lagnamsa do – and I think that they, too, cause us to attempt to

overcome suffering, but at a different level. They cause us to fight

(Mars), though not necessarily physically, adapt (Saturn), argue,

doubt, question (Rahu, Ketu) and engage (Sun) to try to overcome this

suffering – at a physical, physiological and social level. But this

only takes us so far, because we soon learn that the physical body

and it's environs are merely a facade, and so the effort moves to the

level of the Atma - and then we have malefics in trines to the AK,

which cause us to try to overcome suffering by a different route.

 

Eventually, of course, even this attempt must be abandoned (after its

work has been achieved), in favour of something higher – a complete

surrender of all desire (in this case the desire to end suffering) in

complete faith in the Divine, Ishwara, Purushottama. After all,

happiness and suffering are merely the result of the interaction

between the mind and the ahamkara. To the Atma, there is no such

duality.

 

Last of all we have to lose the desire for liberation as well .

 

Anyway, just my ramblings. I will wait in case Vistiji has any

comments and corrections.

 

Best wishes,

 

Samir

 

 

, "Himanshu Mohan"

<himanshu_mohan> wrote:

> Om Ganeshay Namah

> Dear Guru Visti,

> Pranam. Heartening to see you back.

> Dear Guru and Samir,

> I wonder if the malefics in trines give this effect (I read it

earlier

> also); what if the planet that is AK is malefic itself? Does it not

> give the same tendencies as being the seat of Karakamsha being

decided

> by that planet only, sitting in both a quadrant and a trine in a

way?

>

> Regards,

> Radhekrishna!

> Himanshu Mohan

>

> , Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma>

wrote:

> > ||Shree Gurubyoh namah||

> >

> > Namaste visti, and samir

> > Thanks for pointing out the correction. I replied from

> > what I remembered and I had read these a long while

> > ago. Now after your mail I do remember reading

> > papadwaye mantrika. Thanks for the corrections and I

> > do stand corrected.

> >

> > Lakshman

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Mail

> > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour:

> > http://tour.mail./mailtour.html

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Dear Samir,

Namaskar

You are

right about AK when it also is a malefic.

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Dear Himanshu, Namaskar

If we consider the reason given by Vistiji, I

think the answer will

be yes. A malefic AK is going to cause

suffering, while at the same

time it is going to lead the soul towards the

Godhead. So it will

make the native learn such methods. If there

are no other planets

then this will mean only mantra, whilst having

more malefics in

trines adds tantra and yantra to the list.

On a slight tangent, I was contemplating what

malefics in trines to

Lagnamsa do – and I think that they, too,

cause us to attempt to

overcome suffering, but at a different

level. They cause us to fight

(Mars), though not necessarily physically, adapt

(Saturn), argue,

doubt, question (Rahu, Ketu) and engage (Sun) to

try to overcome this

suffering – at a physical, physiological and

social level. But this

only takes us so far, because we soon learn that

the physical body

and it's environs are merely a facade, and so the

effort moves to the

level of the Atma - and then we have

malefics in trines to the AK,

which cause us to try to overcome suffering by a

different route.

Eventually, of course, even this attempt must be

abandoned (after its

work has been achieved), in favour of something

higher – a complete

surrender of all desire (in this case the desire

to end suffering) in

complete faith in the Divine, Ishwara,

Purushottama. After all,

happiness and suffering are merely the result of

the interaction

between the mind and the ahamkara. To the

Atma, there is no such

duality.

Last of all we have to lose the desire for

liberation as well .

Anyway, just my ramblings. I will wait in

case Vistiji has any

comments and corrections.

Best wishes,

Samir

,

"Himanshu Mohan"

<himanshu_mohan> wrote:

> Om Ganeshay

Namah

> Dear Guru Visti,

> Pranam. Heartening to see you back.

> Dear Guru and Samir,

> I wonder if the malefics in trines give this

effect (I read it

earlier

> also); what if the planet that is AK is

malefic itself? Does it not

> give the same tendencies as being the seat of

Karakamsha being

decided

> by that planet only, sitting in both a

quadrant and a trine in a

way?

>

> Regards,

> Radhekrishna!

> Himanshu Mohan

>

> , Lakshman

Brahma <lbrahma>

wrote:

> > ||Shree Gurubyoh namah||

> >

> > Namaste visti, and samir

> > Thanks for pointing out the correction.

I replied from

> > what I remembered and I had read these a

long while

> > ago. Now after your mail I do remember

reading

> > papadwaye mantrika. Thanks for the

corrections and I

> > do stand corrected.

> >

> > Lakshman

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Mail

> > Stay connected, organized, and

protected. Take the tour:

> > http://tour.mail./mailtour.html

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Om Namo Bhagawate

Vasudevay

Dear Samir,

Namaste.

Reading was a pleasure. I am smiling at

the moment. You remind me my old

sher^s -

raaste band hain prayas

nahi;

zindagi itni bhi udas nahi.

.. . .

And it ended thus-

Moksha ki

kaamanaa na ho baqi;

Is se behtar

koi sanyas nahi.

Tell me if you do not

know

Hindi!

 

Regards,

Radhekrishna!

Himanshu

Mohan

 

--- In

,

"ray_of_solaris"

<solaris.smoke@g...> wrote:

> || Om

Krsna Guru ||

>

> Dear Himanshu,

Namaskar

>

> If we consider the

reason given by Vistiji, I think the

answer will

> be yes. A malefic AK is

going to cause suffering, while at the

same

> time it is going to lead the soul

towards the Godhead. So it will

>

make the native learn such methods.

If there are no other planets

> then

this will mean only mantra, whilst

having more malefics in

> trines

adds tantra and yantra to the list.

>

 

> On a slight tangent, I was

contemplating what malefics in

trines to

> Lagnamsa do – and I think

that they, too, cause us to attempt

to

> overcome suffering, but at a

different level. They cause us to fight

 

> (Mars), though not necessarily

physically, adapt (Saturn), argue,

 

> doubt, question (Rahu, Ketu) and

engage (Sun) to try to overcome this

 

> suffering – at a physical,

physiological and social level. But this

 

> only takes us so far, because we

soon learn that the physical body

>

and it's environs are merely a facade,

and so the effort moves to the

>

level of the Atma - and then we have

malefics in trines to the AK,

> which

cause us to try to overcome

suffering by a different route.

>

>

Eventually, of course, even this

attempt must be abandoned (after

its

> work has been achieved), in

favour of something higher – a

complete

> surrender of all desire

(in this case the desire to end

suffering) in

> complete faith in the

Divine, Ishwara, Purushottama.

After all,

> happiness and suffering

are merely the result of the

interaction

> between the mind

and the ahamkara. To the Atma,

there is no such

> duality.

>

> Last

of all we have to lose the desire for

liberation as well .

>

> Anyway,

just my ramblings. I will wait in case

Vistiji has any

> comments and

corrections.

>

> Best wishes,

>

 

> Samir

>

>

> --- In

,

"Himanshu Mohan"

>

<himanshu_mohan> wrote:

> >

Om Ganeshay Namah

> > Dear Guru

Visti,

> > Pranam. Heartening to see

you back.

> > Dear Guru and

Samir,

> > I wonder if the malefics in

trines give this effect (I read it

>

earlier

> > also); what if the planet

that is AK is malefic itself? Does it

not

> > give the same tendencies as

being the seat of Karakamsha being

 

> decided

> > by that planet only,

sitting in both a quadrant and a trine

in a

> way?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

Radhekrishna!

> > Himanshu

Mohan

> >

> > --- In

,

Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma>

 

> wrote:

> > > ||Shree Gurubyoh

namah||

> > >

> > > Namaste visti, and

samir

> > > Thanks for pointing out

the correction. I replied from

> > >

what I remembered and I had read

these a long while

> > > ago. Now

after your mail I do remember

reading

> > > papadwaye mantrika.

Thanks for the corrections and I

> > >

do stand corrected.

> > >

> > >

Lakshman

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

 

> > > Mail

> > > Stay

connected, organized, and

protected. Take the tour:

> > >

http://tour.mail./mailtour.html