Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Learned Members, Hi, I have seen a chart which has many interesting combinations. I need some help in analyzing this chart. (though it is the chart of a kid) 2nd October 2004, 12: 37 Noon, Cochin, Kerala Main combinations. 1. Four planets in 10th house (Sun,Mars, Mercury, Jupiter) 2. All Kendra and Trikona Lords are in one house (10th house) A great Rajayoga? 3. Dharma Karamadhi Yoga 4. 7th & 10th Lord Mercury is Exalted in 10th 5. Jupiter having a rare 8 points in Ashtakavarga in 10th 6. Kalasarpa Yoga 7. Birth on 2nd October – same to Gandhiji 8. Birth in noon time. My doubts are: I have read somewhere that 3 or more planets concentrating in one house normally lead the person to become an ascetic. Can Saturn's placement in UL in this case further strengthen this along with A7 falling in 10th house and Rahu becoming Atmakaraka. Otherwise, if the person leads a normal life, can this combination make the person a great with power and authority due to many Rajayogas. Kindly clear my doubts. Regards, Kannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 || Om Krsna Guru || Dear Kannan, Namaskar What an interesting chart indeed! Lots can be said about it - hoping that the birth time is correct. I am not very experienced but here are a few things I have picked up that are relevant to the chart: 1. 4 planets in a kendra is a Sadhu yoga formed as a result of a desire from the previous life. However since two of these planets are combust (Mars and Mercury), the yoga can be reversed to give material fortune instead of tyaaga. There will still be reverence towards all things spiritual, though. 2. Kendra/trikona lords all joined in the throne - this is indeed a huge rajya yoga! I think it's important to note that the badhakesh Mercury is involved, which suggests that the rajya yoga will take place to the benefit of others - i.e., not for the personal gain of the native. But because of combustion of Mars/Mercury the Sun is going to control much of what happens here also. 3. Look at the exalted Moon (in Paravatamsa) in 3rd from AL and Venus in the 6th. This is indicative of tyaaga of society (Moon) and relationships (Venus). Saturn's placement in UL further supports this, along with the aforementioned Sadhu yoga. Along with the Sadhu Yoga (even with the combust planets), I think indications are high for sannyas. But I'll wait to see what the learned members say. 4. Rahu as AK in this case I think indicates a spiritual person. The Kaala Sarpa Yoga might actually enforce this - given that Ketu is placed in the 11th house of occult learning. These four points all point towards a highly spiritual person - and perhaps someone who will become well known for it also. Given that there are rajya yogas as well as pravrajya yogas, I am inclined to think that one will follow the other, and that both will in fact manifest. This is my initial interpretation. I anticipate that other members will contribute also and correct my mistakes. I am sure there is a lot more to say about the chart, but I hope this helps to answer your questions. The vargas are interesting also, and shed more light - though they may need some rectification. Please do keep us informed about the progress of this child. Best wishes, Samir "kankan_73" <kankan_73 Thu May 19, 2005 6:18 am A very interesting Chart Learned Members, Hi, I have seen a chart which has many interesting combinations. I need some help in analyzing this chart. (though it is the chart of a kid) 2nd October 2004, 12: 37 Noon, Cochin, Kerala Main combinations. 1. Four planets in 10th house (Sun,Mars, Mercury, Jupiter) 2. All Kendra and Trikona Lords are in one house (10th house) A great Rajayoga? 3. Dharma Karamadhi Yoga 4. 7th & 10th Lord Mercury is Exalted in 10th 5. Jupiter having a rare 8 points in Ashtakavarga in 10th 6. Kalasarpa Yoga 7. Birth on 2nd October – same to Gandhiji 8. Birth in noon time. My doubts are: I have read somewhere that 3 or more planets concentrating in one house normally lead the person to become an ascetic. Can Saturn's placement in UL in this case further strengthen this along with A7 falling in 10th house and Rahu becoming Atmakaraka. Otherwise, if the person leads a normal life, can this combination make the person a great with power and authority due to many Rajayogas. Kindly clear my doubts. Regards, Kannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Dear Samir, Many thanks for your reply and making some valid comments. To add some more events, the child is a baby girl and at the time of birth there was a huge threat to her life as both the lungs were not working. Due to good medical support and great prayers by her parents and relatives, the lungs started working and now she is alright. The first one month was a horrible experience for her parents. As you said the deep conjuction of Mercury and Mars, lords of 5th and 10th with 9th lord Sun may be a huge Rajayoga. But please note the degree position of Moon. I think Moon is in infancy and hence not exalted. Also in Saptamsa Moon the 5th lord is debiliated. Hope you may give more comments. I will keep you updated on any more information coming from her parents. I also request Vistiji to give his expert comments on this chart. Regards, Kannan , Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...> wrote: > || Om Krsna Guru || > > Dear Kannan, Namaskar > > What an interesting chart indeed! Lots can be said about it - hoping that > the birth time is correct. I am not very experienced but here are a few > things I have picked up that are relevant to the chart: > > 1. 4 planets in a kendra is a Sadhu yoga formed as a result of a desire > from the previous life. However since two of these planets are combust > (Mars and Mercury), the yoga can be reversed to give material fortune > instead of tyaaga. There will still be reverence towards all things > spiritual, though. > > 2. Kendra/trikona lords all joined in the throne - this is indeed a huge > rajya yoga! I think it's important to note that the badhakesh Mercury is > involved, which suggests that the rajya yoga will take place to the benefit > of others - i.e., not for the personal gain of the native. But because of > combustion of Mars/Mercury the Sun is going to control much of what happens > here also. > > 3. Look at the exalted Moon (in Paravatamsa) in 3rd from AL and Venus in > the 6th. This is indicative of tyaaga of society (Moon) and relationships > (Venus). Saturn's placement in UL further supports this, along with the > aforementioned Sadhu yoga. Along with the Sadhu Yoga (even with the > combust planets), I think indications are high for sannyas. But I'll wait > to see what the learned members say. > > 4. Rahu as AK in this case I think indicates a spiritual person. The > Kaala Sarpa Yoga might actually enforce this - given that Ketu is placed in > the 11th house of occult learning. > > These four points all point towards a highly spiritual person - and perhaps > someone who will become well known for it also. Given that there are rajya > yogas as well as pravrajya yogas, I am inclined to think that one will > follow the other, and that both will in fact manifest. This is my initial > interpretation. I anticipate that other members will contribute also and > correct my mistakes. > > I am sure there is a lot more to say about the chart, but I hope this helps > to answer your questions. The vargas are interesting also, and shed more > light - though they may need some rectification. Please do keep us > informed about the progress of this child. > > Best wishes, > > Samir > > > ---------- > "kankan_73" <kankan_73@> > Thu May 19, 2005 6:18 am > A very interesting Chart > > > Learned Members, Hi, > I have seen a chart which has many interesting combinations. I need > some help in analyzing this chart. (though it is the chart of a kid) > > 2nd October 2004, 12: 37 Noon, Cochin, Kerala > > Main combinations. > 1. Four planets in 10th house (Sun,Mars, Mercury, Jupiter) > 2. All Kendra and Trikona Lords are in one house (10th house) A > great Rajayoga? > 3. Dharma Karamadhi Yoga > 4. 7th & 10th Lord Mercury is Exalted in 10th > 5. Jupiter having a rare 8 points in Ashtakavarga in 10th > 6. Kalasarpa Yoga > 7. Birth on 2nd October – same to Gandhiji > 8. Birth in noon time. > > My doubts are: > I have read somewhere that 3 or more planets concentrating in one > house normally lead the person to become an ascetic. Can Saturn's > placement in UL in this case further strengthen this along with A7 > falling in 10th house and Rahu becoming Atmakaraka. > > Otherwise, if the person leads a normal life, can this combination > make the person a great with power and authority due to many > Rajayogas. > > Kindly clear my doubts. > Regards, > Kannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 || Om Krsna Guru || Dear Kannan, Namaskar The Moon in the first five degrees of Taurus is in mrita, not baala avastha, because Taurus is an even sign. Note that the Moon gains deep exaltation in the 3rd degree of Taurus, in Krittika nakshatra. In this chart the Moon is less that 3 degrees away from this point, so it is definitely exalted. Consider that the Moon must be in mrita avastha to be in deep exaltation. I've already mentioned it's high vaiseshikamsa bala also. Of course being in Rasi sandhi will not go without its effects, but the Moon is still strong. I would never have thought there was a health hazard, and I still can't see why. I'd better go and study hard, and find out. I don't know if the Kaala Sarpa Yoga has anything to do with it. A little clarification to what I said about the Sadhu yoga: Parasara says that if, of the 4 (or more) planets joined in a kendra, some are combust but otherwise strong, the native will not take to ascetism, but will have deep reverence for the same. However, if the same planets are weak and combust, then a tapasvi is born. I do not know if we can call the planets weak in this case, given Mercury's exaltation. However Mars seems pretty weak being in an inimical sign and with low shadbala. Both planets are behind the Sun also. I look forward to reading the comments of others. Best wishes, Samir "kankan_73" <kankan_73 Fri May 20, 2005 4:51 am Re: A very interesting Chart Many thanks for your reply and making some valid comments. To add some more events, the child is a baby girl and at the time of birth there was a huge threat to her life as both the lungs were not working. Due to good medical support and great prayers by her parents and relatives, the lungs started working and now she is alright. The first one month was a horrible experience for her parents. As you said the deep conjuction of Mercury and Mars, lords of 5th and 10th with 9th lord Sun may be a huge Rajayoga. But please note the degree position of Moon. I think Moon is in infancy and hence not exalted. Also in Saptamsa Moon the 5th lord is debiliated. Hope you may give more comments. I will keep you updated on any more information coming from her parents. I also request Vistiji to give his expert comments on this chart. Regards, Kannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Dear Samir, Many thanks for the clarifications. May be it is a new learning to me that Moon in 1st degrees of an even sign is in Mrita avastha than baala avastha (my knowledge and understandings is very less). But I think if my memory is correct, Moon is exalted in Rohini, her own nakshatra than in Krittika, you may please correct me, once again referring the books. I don't know about Vaiseshikamsa, kindly let me know this also. Is this means planet occupying same position in may Vargas? I was thinking that Moon is weak and that prompted the health hazard. But here you think the Moon is strong, so we have to find out some other reason. While we were discussing on whether the person will become a tapasvi or not, can we analyse the opposite, i.e., chances of married life, considering 7th lord and karaka both are powerful. Also 2nd from UL has Venus. Like you I also wish some learned member will comment on this great chart. Regards, Kannan , Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...> wrote: > || Om Krsna Guru || > > Dear Kannan, Namaskar > > The Moon in the first five degrees of Taurus is in mrita, not baala > avastha, because Taurus is an even sign. > > Note that the Moon gains deep exaltation in the 3rd degree of Taurus, in > Krittika nakshatra. In this chart the Moon is less that 3 degrees away > from this point, so it is definitely exalted. Consider that the Moon must > be in mrita avastha to be in deep exaltation. I've already mentioned it's > high vaiseshikamsa bala also. Of course being in Rasi sandhi will not go > without its effects, but the Moon is still strong. > > I would never have thought there was a health hazard, and I still can't see > why. I'd better go and study hard, and find out. I don't know if the > Kaala Sarpa Yoga has anything to do with it. > > A little clarification to what I said about the Sadhu yoga: Parasara says > that if, of the 4 (or more) planets joined in a kendra, some are combust > but otherwise strong, the native will not take to ascetism, but will have > deep reverence for the same. However, if the same planets are weak and > combust, then a tapasvi is born. I do not know if we can call the planets > weak in this case, given Mercury's exaltation. However Mars seems pretty > weak being in an inimical sign and with low shadbala. Both planets are > behind the Sun also. > > I look forward to reading the comments of others. > > Best wishes, > > Samir > > > ---------- > "kankan_73" <kankan_73@> > Fri May 20, 2005 4:51 am > Re: A very interesting Chart > > Many thanks for your reply and making some valid comments. > > To add some more events, the child is a baby girl and at the time of > birth there was a huge threat to her life as both the lungs were not > working. Due to good medical support and great prayers by her > parents and relatives, the lungs started working and now she is > alright. The first one month was a horrible experience for her > parents. > > As you said the deep conjuction of Mercury and Mars, lords of 5th > and 10th with 9th lord Sun may be a huge Rajayoga. But please note > the degree position of Moon. I think Moon is in infancy and hence > not exalted. Also in Saptamsa Moon the 5th lord is debiliated. Hope > you may give more comments. > > I will keep you updated on any more information coming from her > parents. > > I also request Vistiji to give his expert comments on this chart. > > Regards, > Kannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Kannan, Namaskar Haven’t you read Parasara? Moon gets exalted in Krittika nakshatra. You must be thinking about Sri Krishna Avatara who was born when the Moon was transiting his favorite nakshatra; Rohini. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Web: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> & http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of kankan_73 20 May 2005 13:16 [Om Krishna Guru] Re: A very interesting Chart 12.0pt"> 10.0pt">Dear Samir, Many thanks for the clarifications. May be it is a new learning to me that Moon in 1st degrees of an even sign is in Mrita avastha than baala avastha (my knowledge and understandings is very less). But I think if my memory is correct, Moon is exalted in Rohini, her own nakshatra than in Krittika, you may please correct me, once again referring the books. I don't know about Vaiseshikamsa, kindly let me know this also. Is this means planet occupying same position in may Vargas? I was thinking that Moon is weak and that prompted the health hazard. But here you think the Moon is strong, so we have to find out some other reason. While we were discussing on whether the person will become a tapasvi or not, can we analyse the opposite, i.e., chances of married life, considering 7th lord and karaka both are powerful. Also 2nd from UL has Venus. Like you I also wish some learned member will comment on this great chart. Regards, Kannan , Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...> wrote: > || Om Krsna Guru || > > Dear Kannan, Namaskar > > The Moon in the first five degrees of Taurus is in mrita, not baala > avastha, because Taurus is an even sign. > > Note that the Moon gains deep exaltation in the 3rd degree of Taurus, in > Krittika nakshatra. In this chart the Moon is less that 3 degrees away > from this point, so it is definitely exalted. Consider that the Moon must > be in mrita avastha to be in deep exaltation. I've already mentioned it's > high vaiseshikamsa bala also. Of course being in Rasi sandhi will not go > without its effects, but the Moon is still strong. > > I would never have thought there was a health hazard, and I still can't see > why. I'd better go and study hard, and find out. I don't know if the > Kaala Sarpa Yoga has anything to do with it. > > A little clarification to what I said about the Sadhu yoga: Parasara says > that if, of the 4 (or more) planets joined in a kendra, some are combust > but otherwise strong, the native will not take to ascetism, but will have > deep reverence for the same. However, if the same planets are weak and > combust, then a tapasvi is born. I do not know if we can call the planets > weak in this case, given Mercury's exaltation. However Mars seems pretty > weak being in an inimical sign and with low shadbala. Both planets are > behind the Sun also. > > I look forward to reading the comments of others. > > Best wishes, > > Samir > > > ---------- > "kankan_73" <kankan_73@> > Fri May 20, 2005 4:51 am > Re: A very interesting Chart > > Many thanks for your reply and making some valid comments. > > To add some more events, the child is a baby girl and at the time of > birth there was a huge threat to her life as both the lungs were not > working. Due to good medical support and great prayers by her > parents and relatives, the lungs started working and now she is > alright. The first one month was a horrible experience for her > parents. > > As you said the deep conjuction of Mercury and Mars, lords of 5th > and 10th with 9th lord Sun may be a huge Rajayoga. But please note > the degree position of Moon. I think Moon is in infancy and hence > not exalted. Also in Saptamsa Moon the 5th lord is debiliated. Hope > you may give more comments. > > I will keep you updated on any more information coming from her > parents. > > I also request Vistiji to give his expert comments on this chart. > > Regards, > Kannan ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Respected Vistiji & Samir, Vistiji, you really have a 6th sense. I had in mind Lord Krishna and Rohini when I wrote the mail. You correctly got the point. Thank you very much for correcting me. I read BHPS now and clear about Moon's exaltation and 4 planets in same house. Samirji, I am sorry that I asked you to refer the books. I should have read BHPS before asking the same. Thanks for the help. Regards, Kannan , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Kannan, Namaskar > > Haven't you read Parasara? Moon gets exalted in Krittika nakshatra. > > You must be thinking about Sri Krishna Avatara who was born when the Moon > was transiting his favorite nakshatra; Rohini. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > [] On > Behalf Of kankan_73 > 20 May 2005 13:16 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: A very interesting Chart > > > > Dear Samir, > Many thanks for the clarifications. May be it is a new learning to > me that Moon in 1st degrees of an even sign is in Mrita avastha than > baala avastha (my knowledge and understandings is very less). But I > think if my memory is correct, Moon is exalted in Rohini, her own > nakshatra than in Krittika, you may please correct me, once again > referring the books. > I don't know about Vaiseshikamsa, kindly let me know this also. Is > this means planet occupying same position in may Vargas? > I was thinking that Moon is weak and that prompted the health > hazard. But here you think the Moon is strong, so we have to find > out some other reason. > > While we were discussing on whether the person will become a tapasvi > or not, can we analyse the opposite, i.e., chances of married life, > considering 7th lord and karaka both are powerful. Also 2nd from UL > has Venus. > > Like you I also wish some learned member will comment on this great > chart. > > Regards, > Kannan > > , Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...> > wrote: > > || Om Krsna Guru || > > > > Dear Kannan, Namaskar > > > > The Moon in the first five degrees of Taurus is in mrita, not > baala > > avastha, because Taurus is an even sign. > > > > Note that the Moon gains deep exaltation in the 3rd degree of > Taurus, in > > Krittika nakshatra. In this chart the Moon is less that 3 degrees > away > > from this point, so it is definitely exalted. Consider that the > Moon must > > be in mrita avastha to be in deep exaltation. I've already > mentioned it's > > high vaiseshikamsa bala also. Of course being in Rasi sandhi will > not go > > without its effects, but the Moon is still strong. > > > > I would never have thought there was a health hazard, and I still > can't see > > why. I'd better go and study hard, and find out. I don't know if > the > > Kaala Sarpa Yoga has anything to do with it. > > > > A little clarification to what I said about the Sadhu yoga: > Parasara says > > that if, of the 4 (or more) planets joined in a kendra, some are > combust > > but otherwise strong, the native will not take to ascetism, but > will have > > deep reverence for the same. However, if the same planets are > weak and > > combust, then a tapasvi is born. I do not know if we can call the > planets > > weak in this case, given Mercury's exaltation. However Mars seems > pretty > > weak being in an inimical sign and with low shadbala. Both > planets are > > behind the Sun also. > > > > I look forward to reading the comments of others. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Samir > > > > > > ---------- > > "kankan_73" <kankan_73@> > > Fri May 20, 2005 4:51 am > > Re: A very interesting Chart > > > > Many thanks for your reply and making some valid comments. > > > > To add some more events, the child is a baby girl and at the time > of > > birth there was a huge threat to her life as both the lungs were > not > > working. Due to good medical support and great prayers by her > > parents and relatives, the lungs started working and now she is > > alright. The first one month was a horrible experience for her > > parents. > > > > As you said the deep conjuction of Mercury and Mars, lords of 5th > > and 10th with 9th lord Sun may be a huge Rajayoga. But please note > > the degree position of Moon. I think Moon is in infancy and hence > > not exalted. Also in Saptamsa Moon the 5th lord is debiliated. Hope > > you may give more comments. > > > > I will keep you updated on any more information coming from her > > parents. > > > > I also request Vistiji to give his expert comments on this chart. > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > _____ > > Links > > * > / > > * > > <? subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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