Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Dear Sri Vistiji, I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD lectures on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my chart I got a panic attack. This is why. 1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra-Ke in axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 malefics in 3 kendras. 2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting Sa , while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by Ra. 3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was mentioning the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will get tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and results are in line. I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite low and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!! Regards Soumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Soumit, Namaskar Relax. I’m suprised you waited so long before freaking out, even though i’ve seen your chart quite a few times. Heres what i should warn you about. The Ketu+Saturn yoga is going to cause a problem at the time of your mothers demise. It will obstruct you from performing the last rites, and this requires propitiation, or at the appropriate time some extra bali is required. This is further indicating that some jealousy would be heading your way as dristi badhaka is being formed, but Sasa mahapurusha yoga, you are protected. Mars is debilitated in the seventh with Rahu indicating Kuja-Sthambana and with Mars opposite it, indicating serious relationship trouble and a situation close to madness, which you have already experienced. The final Pisacha badhaka yoga would also function during the relationships. Now this boils down to two types of events which could be occuring. 1) someone should have died recently. 2) you have got into a new relationship. If neither of the two have happened, you are fine. Btw. You are running Rahu-Venus, not Rahu-Ketu. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Web: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> & http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of java_sgt 19 May 2005 06:25 [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka 12.0pt"> 10.0pt">Dear Sri Vistiji, I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD lectures on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my chart I got a panic attack. This is why. 1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra-Ke in axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 malefics in 3 kendras. 2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting Sa , while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by Ra. 3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was mentioning the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will get tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and results are in line. I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite low and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!! Regards Soumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi) ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Many thanks for looking to my chart one more time. I have your previous comments on the lineup of Ra-Ma-Sa-Ke, and the one highlighting the good side of moon in 8th (Ak). All these readings are close or right on the money. The were discussed as node afflictions and planets in marana karka sthana. However untill recently I did not recognize their significance as badhaka. I am beginning to hear a recurring message. Now Venus seems to have joined the gang by sitting on the badhakeshs house. I already know that in the event of my mom's death, I will be in deep trouble. What is the remedy to make sure that I am besides my mom and that I get to do her last rites? Thanks again Regards Soumit BTW I was listening to you speak on Kuja Dosha and I must say that your analysis of Mars in the 7th causing indiscriminate giving (therefore the ex was pissed off, as well burning the house of food) is uncannily true and dead on accurate for me atleast. Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Soumit, Namaskar Relax. I’m suprised you waited so long before freaking out, even though i’ve seen your chart quite a few times. Heres what i should warn you about. The Ketu+Saturn yoga is going to cause a problem at the time of your mothers demise. It will obstruct you from performing the last rites, and this requires propitiation, or at the appropriate time some extra bali is required. This is further indicating that some jealousy would be heading your way as dristi badhaka is being formed, but Sasa mahapurusha yoga, you are protected. Mars is debilitated in the seventh with Rahu indicating Kuja-Sthambana and with Mars opposite it, indicating serious relationship trouble and a situation close to madness, which you have already experienced. The final Pisacha badhaka yoga would also function during the relationships. Now this boils down to two types of events which could be occuring. 1) someone should have died recently. 2) you have got into a new relationship. If neither of the two have happened, you are fine. Btw. You are running Rahu-Venus, not Rahu-Ketu. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of java_sgt19 May 2005 06:25To: Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka Dear Sri Vistiji, I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD lectures on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my chart I got a panic attack. This is why.1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra-Ke in axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 malefics in 3 kendras.2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting Sa , while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by Ra.3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was mentioning the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will get tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and results are in line. I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite low and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!!RegardsSoumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi) 10pt">~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today soumit guhajava_sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Dear Soumit, Namaste Malefics in Kendra 10 from AL - rahu, 4 from Al - ketu Moon in 8 Sun debilitated. Sarpa & Pisaca Yoga. Mars in 7 This we have similar Hard life:) 25 oct 82 19:36:30 50n13 18e41 with regards, Rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 The debility of the Sun in my chart causes me to lack ambition, and realize carrier potential and try and play hookey at every possible opportunity. I would rather be out in the garden, but then the Sun is the 10th house & with my AL being there, businessmen keep hunting me out and putting me to work. sigh!!!! Rafal <jyotraff > wrote: Dear Soumit, NamasteMalefics in Kendra10 from AL - rahu, 4 from Al - ketuMoon in 8Sun debilitated.Sarpa & Pisaca Yoga.Mars in 7This we have similar :)Hard life:)25 oct 8219:36:3050n1318e41with regards,Rafal~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today soumit guhajava_sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Hare Visti, Soumit, and Group, Would you please tell us about the "madness" yogas and what we can do about them. Thanks, Julli , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > Relax. I'm suprised you waited so long before freaking out, even though i've > seen your chart quite a few times. > > Heres what i should warn you about. The Ketu+Saturn yoga is going to cause a > problem at the time of your mothers demise. It will obstruct you from > performing the last rites, and this requires propitiation, or at the > appropriate time some extra bali is required. > > This is further indicating that some jealousy would be heading your way as > dristi badhaka is being formed, but Sasa mahapurusha yoga, you are > protected. > > Mars is debilitated in the seventh with Rahu indicating Kuja- Sthambana and > with Mars opposite it, indicating serious relationship trouble and a > situation close to madness, which you have already experienced. > > The final Pisacha badhaka yoga would also function during the relationships. > > > > Now this boils down to two types of events which could be occuring. 1) > someone should have died recently. 2) you have got into a new relationship. > > If neither of the two have happened, you are fine. Btw. You are running > Rahu-Venus, not Rahu-Ketu. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > [] On > Behalf Of java_sgt > 19 May 2005 06:25 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > Dear Sri Vistiji, > I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD lectures > on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my chart > I got a panic attack. > > This is why. > 1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra-Ke in > axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 > malefics in 3 kendras. > 2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting Sa , > while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by Ra. > 3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was mentioning > the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will get > tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and results > are in line. > > I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite low > and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!! > > Regards > Soumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi) > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > _____ > > Links > > * > / > > * > > <? subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 "Bookman Old Style";color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Julli, Namaskar That would require a whole article. There are various remedies for the various types of madness. Here one should keep in mind that madness can affect different facets of the native, and many people can live somewhat normally with their tidbits of craziness. The remedies are many, but i prefer a particular mantra for Dattatreya. Worship of Narayan or Nirankara, or even doing the Savitur Gayatri, is a sureshot protection against madness. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Web: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> & http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of sattvasomma 20 May 2005 01:55 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka 12.0pt"> 10.0pt">Hare Visti, Soumit, and Group, Would you please tell us about the "madness" yogas and what we can do about them. Thanks, Julli , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > Relax. I'm suprised you waited so long before freaking out, even though i've > seen your chart quite a few times. > > Heres what i should warn you about. The Ketu+Saturn yoga is going to cause a > problem at the time of your mothers demise. It will obstruct you from > performing the last rites, and this requires propitiation, or at the > appropriate time some extra bali is required. > > This is further indicating that some jealousy would be heading your way as > dristi badhaka is being formed, but Sasa mahapurusha yoga, you are > protected. > > Mars is debilitated in the seventh with Rahu indicating Kuja- Sthambana and > with Mars opposite it, indicating serious relationship trouble and a > situation close to madness, which you have already experienced. > > The final Pisacha badhaka yoga would also function during the relationships. > > > > Now this boils down to two types of events which could be occuring. 1) > someone should have died recently. 2) you have got into a new relationship. > > If neither of the two have happened, you are fine. Btw. You are running > Rahu-Venus, not Rahu-Ketu. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > [] On > Behalf Of java_sgt > 19 May 2005 06:25 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > Dear Sri Vistiji, > I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD lectures > on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my chart > I got a panic attack. > > This is why. > 1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra-Ke in > axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 > malefics in 3 kendras. > 2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting Sa , > while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by Ra. > 3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was mentioning > the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will get > tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and results > are in line. > > I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite low > and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!! > > Regards > Soumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi) > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > _____ > > Links > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > / > > * To from this group, send an email to: > > <? subject=Un> > > * Your use of is subject to the > <> Terms of Service. ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 This site lists 51 combinations that are not good for the mental health. http://www.vedic astrology.net/mental%20dearrangements%20main.htm After spotting the right variety of insanity, one will have to go beg the guru for a remedy, suitable to the chart. In my case I have a #4, but since I am still running loose, I guess mine is on the lower end of the spectrum, or that it is on the way. Hope this helps Regards Soumit sattvasomma <julli (AT) blazenetme (DOT) net> wrote: Hare Visti, Soumit, and Group,Would you please tell us about the "madness" yogas and what we can do about them.Thanks,Julli, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Soumit, Namaskar> > Relax. I'm suprised you waited so long before freaking out, even though i've> seen your chart quite a few times.> > Heres what i should warn you about. The Ketu+Saturn yoga is going to cause a> problem at the time of your mothers demise. It will obstruct you from> performing the last rites, and this requires propitiation, or at the> appropriate time some extra bali is required. > > This is further indicating that some jealousy would be heading your way as> dristi badhaka is being formed, but Sasa mahapurusha yoga, you are> protected.> > Mars is debilitated in the seventh with Rahu indicating Kuja-Sthambana and> with Mars opposite it, indicating serious relationship trouble and a> situation close to madness, which you have already experienced.> > The final Pisacha badhaka yoga would also function during the relationships.> > > > Now this boils down to two types of events which could be occuring. 1)> someone should have died recently. 2) you have got into a new relationship.> > If neither of the two have happened, you are fine. Btw. You are running> Rahu-Venus, not Rahu-Ketu.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...> > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> http://astrovisti.com> > ***> > _____ > > [] On> Behalf Of java_sgt> 19 May 2005 06:25> > [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka> > > > Dear Sri Vistiji,> I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD lectures > on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my chart > I got a panic attack. > > This is why.> 1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra-Ke in > axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 > malefics in 3 kendras.> 2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting Sa , > while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by Ra.> 3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was mentioning > the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will get > tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and results > are in line. > > I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite low > and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!!> > Regards> Soumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi)> > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > _____ > > Links> > * > /> > * To from this group, send an email to:> > <?subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service.~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today soumit guhajava_sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Soumit, Namaskar These yogas are taken from jataka tattva. Thats a great reference for any types of ailments or illnesses. I use it alot myself. But i must say that one cannot take these yogas on face value. You will notice that a few of the yogas talk about Mars in the seventh house. As you know this is marana karaka sthana and can indicate serious problems to the nerves (majja dhatu is mars and indicates nerves and marrow). Also the seventh house shows you ability to discriminate, as it indicates the people you interact with (the door to the world), hence an ill placed Mars here is detrimental towards this. If birth is during the day, then surely the problems is there, but during the night this is heavily minimized and can instead cause show up as serious bouts of anger. Similarly if Mars is in the Lagna or fifth house, the native will have a tendency towards fierce anger, but again this is cooled down in case of night birth. The planet in Lagna whilst Mars is in the seventh/dusthana is also important. Sun and/or Jupiter in the lagna will never destroy the intelligence, but can make the person do something big or great after a bout of anger (bordering madness)... Again Mars must be in the seventh for this to be complete. Saturn in the lagna and Mars in the seventh is surely going to damage the head/intelligence along with the native’s ability to discriminate, due to disease or illness. Here Saturn when well placed averts the same, and makes the person very strong mentally after having experienced a situation bordering madness. Having mentioned lots of slow-moving planets, i’m sure some people are going to jump from their seats (in madness) proclaiming that they are perfectly sane. Thats right, you are sane, and the final determinor is the trimsamsa (d30) to show whether you merely have bad manners or actually have a mental illness. >From the Rasi we can get a strong indication as to how the native’s pranas are moving, and as a result of this the native will show their saumya/krura attitude which can at times be very unbalanced due to the ammount of krura grahas involved. This is just one facet of madness, more facets are involving the fifth house, the moon, the fourth house, etc. Clinical madness should however be seen from the first, fifth and seventh houses. You can include the fourth house for cases of clinical depression, whilst the Moon alone cannot show real madness, but just a problem in ones interaction with ones community which can be solved with the worship of the mother (kalike (saturn), durgatinashinyai (rahu) or chandike (mars)). Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Web: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> & 10.0pt;font-family:bookman">http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of Soumit Guha 20 May 2005 15:37 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Julli, 12.0pt"> This site lists 51 combinations that are not good for the mental health. 12.0pt">http://www.vedic astrology.net/mental%20dearrangements%20main.htm 12.0pt">After spotting the right variety of insanity, one will have to go beg the guru for a remedy, suitable to the chart. 12.0pt">In my case I have a #4, but since I am still running loose, I guess mine is on the lower end of the spectrum, or that it is on the way. 12.0pt">Hope this helps 12.0pt">Regards 12.0pt">Soumit 12.0pt"> sattvasomma <julli (AT) blazenetme (DOT) net> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> Hare Visti, Soumit, and Group, Would you please tell us about the "madness" yogas and what we can do about them. Thanks, Julli , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > Relax. I'm suprised you waited so long before freaking out, even though i've > seen your chart quite a few times. > > Heres what i should warn you about. The Ketu+Saturn yoga is going to cause a > problem at the time of your mothers demise. It will obstruct you from > performing the last rites, and this requires propitiation, or at the > appropriate time some extra bali is required. > > This is further indicating that some jealousy would be heading your way as > dristi badhaka is being formed, but Sasa mahapurusha yoga, you are > protected. > > Mars is debilitated in the seventh with Rahu indicating Kuja- Sthambana and > with Mars opposite it, indicating serious relationship trouble and a > situation close to madness, which you have already experienced. > > The final Pisacha badhaka yoga would also function during the relationships. > > > > Now this boils down to two types of events which could be occuring. 1) > someone should have died recently. 2) you have got into a new relationship. > > If neither of the two have happened, you are fine. Btw. You are running > Rahu-Venus, not Rahu-Ketu. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > [] On > Behalf Of java_sgt > 19 May 2005 06:25 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > Dear Sri Vistiji, > I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD lectures > on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my chart > I got a panic attack. > > This is why. > 1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra-Ke in > axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 > malefics in 3 kendras. > 2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting Sa , > while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by Ra. > 3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was mentioning > the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will get > tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and results > are in line. > > I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite low > and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!! > > Regards > Soumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi) > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > _____ > > Links > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > / > > * To from this group, send an email to: > > <? subject=Un> > > * Your use of is subject to the > <> Terms of Service. ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today 12.0pt"> soumit guha java_sgt ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Thanks for letting us know the caveats, reassurances and certifying the sanity. You are blessed with amazing insight, since the experience described, is as if recounted from personal ones. The logic and reasoning supplied by you is very clear to me. This article totally blows me away. I am certain that one of these days, we will be hearing a full dissertation on this subject in a future Conference. Regards & Best Wishes Soumit Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Soumit, Namaskar These yogas are taken from jataka tattva. Thats a great reference for any types of ailments or illnesses. I use it alot myself. But i must say that one cannot take these yogas on face value. You will notice that a few of the yogas talk about Mars in the seventh house. As you know this is marana karaka sthana and can indicate serious problems to the nerves (majja dhatu is mars and indicates nerves and marrow). Also the seventh house shows you ability to discriminate, as it indicates the people you interact with (the door to the world), hence an ill placed Mars here is detrimental towards this. If birth is during the day, then surely the problems is there, but during the night this is heavily minimized and can instead cause show up as serious bouts of anger. Similarly if Mars is in the Lagna or fifth house, the native will have a tendency towards fierce anger, but again this is cooled down in case of night birth. The planet in Lagna whilst Mars is in the seventh/dusthana is also important. Sun and/or Jupiter in the lagna will never destroy the intelligence, but can make the person do something big or great after a bout of anger (bordering madness)... Again Mars must be in the seventh for this to be complete. Saturn in the lagna and Mars in the seventh is surely going to damage the head/intelligence along with the native’s ability to discriminate, due to disease or illness. Here Saturn when well placed averts the same, and makes the person very strong mentally after having experienced a situation bordering madness. Having mentioned lots of slow-moving planets, i’m sure some people are going to jump from their seats (in madness) proclaiming that they are perfectly sane. Thats right, you are sane, and the final determinor is the trimsamsa (d30) to show whether you merely have bad manners or actually have a mental illness. >From the Rasi we can get a strong indication as to how the native’s pranas are moving, and as a result of this the native will show their saumya/krura attitude which can at times be very unbalanced due to the ammount of krura grahas involved. This is just one facet of madness, more facets are involving the fifth house, the moon, the fourth house, etc. Clinical madness should however be seen from the first, fifth and seventh houses. You can include the fourth house for cases of clinical depression, whilst the Moon alone cannot show real madness, but just a problem in ones interaction with ones community which can be solved with the worship of the mother (kalike (saturn), durgatinashinyai (rahu) or chandike (mars)). Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Soumit Guha20 May 2005 15:37To: Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka Dear Julli, This site lists 51 combinations that are not good for the mental health. http://www.vedic astrology.net/mental%20dearrangements%20main.htm After spotting the right variety of insanity, one will have to go beg the guru for a remedy, suitable to the chart. In my case I have a #4, but since I am still running loose, I guess mine is on the lower end of the spectrum, or that it is on the way. Hope this helps Regards Soumit sattvasomma <julli (AT) blazenetme (DOT) net> wrote: Hare Visti, Soumit, and Group,Would you please tell us about the "madness" yogas and what we can do about them.Thanks,Julli, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Soumit, Namaskar> > Relax. I'm suprised you waited so long before freaking out, even though i've> seen your chart quite a few times.> > Heres what i should warn you about. The Ketu+Saturn yoga is going to cause a> problem at the time of your mothers demise. It will obstruct you from> performing the last rites, and this requires propitiation, or at the> appropriate time some extra bali is required. > > This is further indicating that some jealousy would be heading your way as> dristi badhaka is being formed, but Sasa mahapurusha yoga, you are> protected.> > Mars is debilitated in the seventh with Rahu indicating Kuja-Sthambana and> with Mars opposite it, indicating serious relationship trouble and a> situation close to madness, which you have already experienced.> > The final Pisacha badhaka yoga would also function during the relationships.> > > > Now this boils down to two types of events which could be occuring. 1)> someone should have died recently. 2) you have got into a new relationship.> > If neither of the two have happened, you are fine. Btw. You are running> Rahu-Venus, not Rahu-Ketu.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...> > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> http://astrovisti.com> > ***> > _____ > > [] On> Behalf Of java_sgt> 19 May 2005 06:25> > [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka> > > > Dear Sri Vistiji,> I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD lectures > on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my chart > I got a panic attack. > > This is why.> 1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra-Ke in > axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 > malefics in 3 kendras.> 2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting Sa , > while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by Ra.> 3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was mentioning New">> the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will get > tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and results > are in line. > > I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite low > and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!!> > Regards> Soumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi)> > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > New">> _____ > > Links> > * To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> > * To from this group, send an email to:> > <?subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service.~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today soumit guhajava_sgt ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today 10pt">~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today soumit guhajava_sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Dear Visti, This is brilliant - I especially love your comment about whether one has a mental illness or merely bad manners! I have retrograde Mars in 4 and AK Saturn in 10. My mother probably has "borderline personality" disorder (my mother-in-law is no treat either). She "acted-out" many of her problems on me growing up culminating in ejecting me from the family when I got married. My mother-in-law wasn't much better. My thought is that since this is, after all, my chart, I must also have this sickness too. I certainly have little inner peace if I don't stay vigilent and stop my mind when it starts thinking bad thoughts. Mantras help fill the void. In my D30, Jupiter is in my Sag Lagna which must explain what sanity I have. Blessings to all, Julli , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > These yogas are taken from jataka tattva. Thats a great reference for any > types of ailments or illnesses. I use it alot myself. But i must say that > one cannot take these yogas on face value. > > You will notice that a few of the yogas talk about Mars in the seventh > house. As you know this is marana karaka sthana and can indicate serious > problems to the nerves (majja dhatu is mars and indicates nerves and > marrow). Also the seventh house shows you ability to discriminate, as it > indicates the people you interact with (the door to the world), hence an ill > placed Mars here is detrimental towards this. > > > > If birth is during the day, then surely the problems is there, but during > the night this is heavily minimized and can instead cause show up as serious > bouts of anger. Similarly if Mars is in the Lagna or fifth house, the native > will have a tendency towards fierce anger, but again this is cooled down in > case of night birth. > > > > The planet in Lagna whilst Mars is in the seventh/dusthana is also > important. Sun and/or Jupiter in the lagna will never destroy the > intelligence, but can make the person do something big or great after a bout > of anger (bordering madness)... Again Mars must be in the seventh for this > to be complete. > > > > Saturn in the lagna and Mars in the seventh is surely going to damage the > head/intelligence along with the native's ability to discriminate, due to > disease or illness. Here Saturn when well placed averts the same, and makes > the person very strong mentally after having experienced a situation > bordering madness. > > > > Having mentioned lots of slow-moving planets, i'm sure some people are going > to jump from their seats (in madness) proclaiming that they are perfectly > sane. Thats right, you are sane, and the final determinor is the trimsamsa > (d30) to show whether you merely have bad manners or actually have a mental > illness. > > From the Rasi we can get a strong indication as to how the native's pranas > are moving, and as a result of this the native will show their saumya/krura > attitude which can at times be very unbalanced due to the ammount of krura > grahas involved. > > > > This is just one facet of madness, more facets are involving the fifth > house, the moon, the fourth house, etc. Clinical madness should however be > seen from the first, fifth and seventh houses. You can include the fourth > house for cases of clinical depression, whilst the Moon alone cannot show > real madness, but just a problem in ones interaction with ones community > which can be solved with the worship of the mother (kalike (saturn), > durgatinashinyai (rahu) or chandike (mars)). > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > [] On > Behalf Of Soumit Guha > 20 May 2005 15:37 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > Dear Julli, > > This site lists 51 combinations that are not good for the mental > health. > > http://www.vedic astrology.net/mental%20dearrangements%20main.htm > > After spotting the right variety of insanity, one will have to go beg the > guru for a remedy, suitable to the chart. > > In my case I have a #4, but since I am still running loose, I guess mine is > on the lower end of the spectrum, or that it is on the way. > > Hope this helps > > Regards > > Soumit > > > sattvasomma <julli@b...> wrote: > > Hare Visti, Soumit, and Group, > > Would you please tell us about the "madness" yogas and what we can do > about them. > > Thanks, > > Julli > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > > > Relax. I'm suprised you waited so long before freaking out, even > though i've > > seen your chart quite a few times. > > > > Heres what i should warn you about. The Ketu+Saturn yoga is going > to cause a > > problem at the time of your mothers demise. It will obstruct you > from > > performing the last rites, and this requires propitiation, or at the > > appropriate time some extra bali is required. > > > > This is further indicating that some jealousy would be heading your > way as > > dristi badhaka is being formed, but Sasa mahapurusha yoga, you are > > protected. > > > > Mars is debilitated in the seventh with Rahu indicating Kuja- > Sthambana and > > with Mars opposite it, indicating serious relationship trouble and a > > situation close to madness, which you have already experienced. > > > > The final Pisacha badhaka yoga would also function during the > relationships. > > > > > > > > Now this boils down to two types of events which could be occuring. > 1) > > someone should have died recently. 2) you have got into a new > relationship. > > > > If neither of the two have happened, you are fine. Btw. You are > running > > Rahu-Venus, not Rahu-Ketu. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> > http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com/> & > <http://astrovisti.com <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > http://astrovisti.com <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of java_sgt > > 19 May 2005 06:25 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Vistiji, > > I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD > lectures > > on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my chart > > I got a panic attack. > > > > This is why. > > 1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra-Ke in > > axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 > > malefics in 3 kendras. > > 2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting > Sa , > > while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by Ra. > > 3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was > mentioning > > the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will get > > tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and results > > are in line. > > > > I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite low > > and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!! > > > > Regards > > Soumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi) > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * > > / > > > > * > > > > <? > subject=Un> > > > > * > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > soumit guha > java_sgt > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > _____ > > Links > > * > / > > * > > <? subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. 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Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 Namaskaar Julli Few pointers towards Mentally Challenged personalities Check at the affliction on Moon and Mercury. Moon represents the mind. If it is afflicted by malefics, it becomes reactive to situations and also helps form erroneous self judgments. Moon passes on the experiences of life to Mercury to judge. If the input is faulty, the more likelihood of judgment to be faulty. Mercury represents the intellect - it is the reasoning and analytical power within us. When afflicted by malefics, the standards of judgment take a fall and the buddhi is called vipreet or Tamasic. Meaning- whatever is right is taken as wrong and vice versa. Study the 4th house (Mind) and the 5th house (intellect, creativity) too and the influence on the same Study the position of Jupiter and see if it is forming any benefic yogas with the above. Jupiter represents dharma and natural indicator of erasing prarabdha karma vasanas (desire born out of our reactions to Prarabdha or destiny). Its benefic presence can negate a lot of malefic influences on the above. Further study the Panchamsa and Jupiter's position in such. Also study the 5th lord and its position in Panchamsa. Alongwith study the sign Cancer. If you find the above to be afflicted to a great extent especially with the nodes, Saturn and Mars, then, it would point to psychaitric problems with the natives. Remedial Measures: If mind (moon) is afflicted only - Either do Japa of Lord Shiva or Ma Durga if buddi (mercury) is afflicted only - do japa of Lord Vishnu Couple these Japas with Deity Japa of the malefic influence on Moon and Mercury: for Rahu: Mahamritunjya Mantra or Ma Kali Japa or Ma Durga for Ketu: Sri Ganesh Japa for Mars: Sri Hanuman Japa for Saturn: Sri Hanuman Japa or Sri Krishna Japa Other remedies include - donation to mentally retarted children or lepers (especially if affliction is by ketu) The definition of Normalacy is a healthy self judgment. Please refer to a book "Talks on Emotional Maturity" by Sri Swami Dayanandaji of Arsha Vidya Gurukulum. This will help you understand the immaturity and you can rapidly associate the planets with it. Thanks and Regards Bharat , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Julli, Namaskar > > That would require a whole article. There are various remedies for the > various types of madness. Here one should keep in mind that madness can > affect different facets of the native, and many people can live somewhat > normally with their tidbits of craziness. > > The remedies are many, but i prefer a particular mantra for Dattatreya. > Worship of Narayan or Nirankara, or even doing the Savitur Gayatri, is a > sureshot protection against madness. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > [] On > Behalf Of sattvasomma > 20 May 2005 01:55 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > Hare Visti, Soumit, and Group, > > Would you please tell us about the "madness" yogas and what we can do > about them. > > Thanks, > > Julli > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > > > Relax. I'm suprised you waited so long before freaking out, even > though i've > > seen your chart quite a few times. > > > > Heres what i should warn you about. The Ketu+Saturn yoga is going > to cause a > > problem at the time of your mothers demise. It will obstruct you > from > > performing the last rites, and this requires propitiation, or at the > > appropriate time some extra bali is required. > > > > This is further indicating that some jealousy would be heading your > way as > > dristi badhaka is being formed, but Sasa mahapurusha yoga, you are > > protected. > > > > Mars is debilitated in the seventh with Rahu indicating Kuja- > Sthambana and > > with Mars opposite it, indicating serious relationship trouble and a > > situation close to madness, which you have already experienced. > > > > The final Pisacha badhaka yoga would also function during the > relationships. > > > > > > > > Now this boils down to two types of events which could be occuring. > 1) > > someone should have died recently. 2) you have got into a new > relationship. > > > > If neither of the two have happened, you are fine. Btw. You are > running > > Rahu-Venus, not Rahu-Ketu. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of java_sgt > > 19 May 2005 06:25 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Vistiji, > > I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD > lectures > > on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my chart > > I got a panic attack. > > > > This is why. > > 1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra-Ke in > > axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 > > malefics in 3 kendras. > > 2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting > Sa , > > while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by Ra. > > 3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was > mentioning > > the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will get > > tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and results > > are in line. > > > > I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite low > > and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!! > > > > Regards > > Soumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi) > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * > > / > > > > * > > > > <? > subject=Un> > > > > * > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > _____ > > Links > > * > / > > * > > <?subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. 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Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 "Bookman Old Style";color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Julli, Namaskar Normally if our parents are ‘bonkers’, it shows up in the D12. But when it shows up in the D1, it means we have really taken on alot of these problems on ourselves. Here its along the fourth and tenth houses, and has affected your state of happiness. Other than that you are fine, and mantras are the key to this. Your attitude towards your work can be abit problematic, and the mantras are definitely required to put you in the right direction. The Ishta Devata is the way. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Web: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> & http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of sattvasomma 21 May 2005 03:01 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka 12.0pt"> 10.0pt">Dear Visti, This is brilliant - I especially love your comment about whether one has a mental illness or merely bad manners! I have retrograde Mars in 4 and AK Saturn in 10. My mother probably has "borderline personality" disorder (my mother-in-law is no treat either). She "acted-out" many of her problems on me growing up culminating in ejecting me from the family when I got married. My mother-in-law wasn't much better. My thought is that since this is, after all, my chart, I must also have this sickness too. I certainly have little inner peace if I don't stay vigilent and stop my mind when it starts thinking bad thoughts. Mantras help fill the void. In my D30, Jupiter is in my Sag Lagna which must explain what sanity I have. Blessings to all, Julli , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > These yogas are taken from jataka tattva. Thats a great reference for any > types of ailments or illnesses. I use it alot myself. But i must say that > one cannot take these yogas on face value. > > You will notice that a few of the yogas talk about Mars in the seventh > house. As you know this is marana karaka sthana and can indicate serious > problems to the nerves (majja dhatu is mars and indicates nerves and > marrow). Also the seventh house shows you ability to discriminate, as it > indicates the people you interact with (the door to the world), hence an ill > placed Mars here is detrimental towards this. > > > > If birth is during the day, then surely the problems is there, but during > the night this is heavily minimized and can instead cause show up as serious > bouts of anger. Similarly if Mars is in the Lagna or fifth house, the native > will have a tendency towards fierce anger, but again this is cooled down in > case of night birth. > > > > The planet in Lagna whilst Mars is in the seventh/dusthana is also > important. Sun and/or Jupiter in the lagna will never destroy the > intelligence, but can make the person do something big or great after a bout > of anger (bordering madness)... Again Mars must be in the seventh for this > to be complete. > > > > Saturn in the lagna and Mars in the seventh is surely going to damage the > head/intelligence along with the native's ability to discriminate, due to > disease or illness. Here Saturn when well placed averts the same, and makes > the person very strong mentally after having experienced a situation > bordering madness. > > > > Having mentioned lots of slow-moving planets, i'm sure some people are going > to jump from their seats (in madness) proclaiming that they are perfectly > sane. Thats right, you are sane, and the final determinor is the trimsamsa > (d30) to show whether you merely have bad manners or actually have a mental > illness. > > From the Rasi we can get a strong indication as to how the native's pranas > are moving, and as a result of this the native will show their saumya/krura > attitude which can at times be very unbalanced due to the ammount of krura > grahas involved. > > > > This is just one facet of madness, more facets are involving the fifth > house, the moon, the fourth house, etc. Clinical madness should however be > seen from the first, fifth and seventh houses. You can include the fourth > house for cases of clinical depression, whilst the Moon alone cannot show > real madness, but just a problem in ones interaction with ones community > which can be solved with the worship of the mother (kalike (saturn), > durgatinashinyai (rahu) or chandike (mars)). > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > [] On > Behalf Of Soumit Guha > 20 May 2005 15:37 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > Dear Julli, > > This site lists 51 combinations that are not good for the mental > health. > > http://www.vedic astrology.net/mental%20dearrangements%20main.htm > > After spotting the right variety of insanity, one will have to go beg the > guru for a remedy, suitable to the chart. > > In my case I have a #4, but since I am still running loose, I guess mine is > on the lower end of the spectrum, or that it is on the way. > > Hope this helps > > Regards > > Soumit > > > sattvasomma <julli@b...> wrote: > > Hare Visti, Soumit, and Group, > > Would you please tell us about the "madness" yogas and what we can do > about them. > > Thanks, > > Julli > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > > > Relax. I'm suprised you waited so long before freaking out, even > though i've > > seen your chart quite a few times. > > > > Heres what i should warn you about. The Ketu+Saturn yoga is going > to cause a > > problem at the time of your mothers demise. It will obstruct you > from > > performing the last rites, and this requires propitiation, or at the > > appropriate time some extra bali is required. > > > > This is further indicating that some jealousy would be heading your > way as > > dristi badhaka is being formed, but Sasa mahapurusha yoga, you are > > protected. > > > > Mars is debilitated in the seventh with Rahu indicating Kuja- > Sthambana and > > with Mars opposite it, indicating serious relationship trouble and a > > situation close to madness, which you have already experienced. > > > > The final Pisacha badhaka yoga would also function during the > relationships. > > > > > > > > Now this boils down to two types of events which could be occuring. > 1) > > someone should have died recently. 2) you have got into a new > relationship. > > > > If neither of the two have happened, you are fine. Btw. You are > running > > Rahu-Venus, not Rahu-Ketu. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> > http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com/> & > <http://astrovisti.com <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > http://astrovisti.com <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of java_sgt > > 19 May 2005 06:25 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Vistiji, > > I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD > lectures > > on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my chart > > I got a panic attack. > > > > This is why. > > 1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra-Ke in > > axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 > > malefics in 3 kendras. > > 2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting > Sa , > > while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by Ra. > > 3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was > mentioning > > the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will get > > tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and results > > are in line. > > > > I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite low > > and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!! > > > > Regards > > Soumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi) > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > > / > > > > * To from this group, send an email to: > > > > <? > subject=Un> > > > > * Your use of is subject to the > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > soumit guha > java_sgt > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > _____ > > Links > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > / > > * To from this group, send an email to: > > <? subject=Un> > > * Your use of is subject to the > <> Terms of Service. ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 Namaskaar Julli and other members, The borderline personality disorder has a way of tranferring on to others, only when, they try to manage those who have it. I have recently started collecting birth details of people having various psychaitric disorders. I am sure you will realize how difficult is to get such data. I would request you all to kindly send me the data of such cases. I would be highly obliged. Sri Visti, just a small question: "Would bad manners constitute the normally accepted behaviour of a person". For this is how most people define a "mad" person - that he/she is out of bounds. or else define abnormality or normality. Thanks and Regards Bharat , "sattvasomma" <julli@b...> wrote: > Dear Visti, > > This is brilliant - I especially love your comment about whether one > has a mental illness or merely bad manners! > > I have retrograde Mars in 4 and AK Saturn in 10. My mother probably > has "borderline personality" disorder (my mother-in-law is no treat > either). She "acted-out" many of her problems on me growing up > culminating in ejecting me from the family when I got married. My > mother-in-law wasn't much better. > > My thought is that since this is, after all, my chart, I must also > have this sickness too. I certainly have little inner peace if I > don't stay vigilent and stop my mind when it starts thinking bad > thoughts. Mantras help fill the void. In my D30, Jupiter is in my > Sag Lagna which must explain what sanity I have. > > Blessings to all, > > Julli > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > > > These yogas are taken from jataka tattva. Thats a great reference > for any > > types of ailments or illnesses. I use it alot myself. But i must > say that > > one cannot take these yogas on face value. > > > > You will notice that a few of the yogas talk about Mars in the > seventh > > house. As you know this is marana karaka sthana and can indicate > serious > > problems to the nerves (majja dhatu is mars and indicates nerves and > > marrow). Also the seventh house shows you ability to discriminate, > as it > > indicates the people you interact with (the door to the world), > hence an ill > > placed Mars here is detrimental towards this. > > > > > > > > If birth is during the day, then surely the problems is there, but > during > > the night this is heavily minimized and can instead cause show up > as serious > > bouts of anger. Similarly if Mars is in the Lagna or fifth house, > the native > > will have a tendency towards fierce anger, but again this is cooled > down in > > case of night birth. > > > > > > > > The planet in Lagna whilst Mars is in the seventh/dusthana is also > > important. Sun and/or Jupiter in the lagna will never destroy the > > intelligence, but can make the person do something big or great > after a bout > > of anger (bordering madness)... Again Mars must be in the seventh > for this > > to be complete. > > > > > > > > Saturn in the lagna and Mars in the seventh is surely going to > damage the > > head/intelligence along with the native's ability to discriminate, > due to > > disease or illness. Here Saturn when well placed averts the same, > and makes > > the person very strong mentally after having experienced a situation > > bordering madness. > > > > > > > > Having mentioned lots of slow-moving planets, i'm sure some people > are going > > to jump from their seats (in madness) proclaiming that they are > perfectly > > sane. Thats right, you are sane, and the final determinor is the > trimsamsa > > (d30) to show whether you merely have bad manners or actually have > a mental > > illness. > > > > From the Rasi we can get a strong indication as to how the native's > pranas > > are moving, and as a result of this the native will show their > saumya/krura > > attitude which can at times be very unbalanced due to the ammount > of krura > > grahas involved. > > > > > > > > This is just one facet of madness, more facets are involving the > fifth > > house, the moon, the fourth house, etc. Clinical madness should > however be > > seen from the first, fifth and seventh houses. You can include the > fourth > > house for cases of clinical depression, whilst the Moon alone > cannot show > > real madness, but just a problem in ones interaction with ones > community > > which can be solved with the worship of the mother (kalike (saturn), > > durgatinashinyai (rahu) or chandike (mars)). > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of Soumit Guha > > 20 May 2005 15:37 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > > > > > Dear Julli, > > > > This site lists 51 combinations that are not good for > the mental > > health. > > > > http://www.vedic astrology.net/mental%20dearrangements%20main.htm > > > > After spotting the right variety of insanity, one will have to go > beg the > > guru for a remedy, suitable to the chart. > > > > In my case I have a #4, but since I am still running loose, I guess > mine is > > on the lower end of the spectrum, or that it is on the way. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Regards > > > > Soumit > > > > > > sattvasomma <julli@b...> wrote: > > > > Hare Visti, Soumit, and Group, > > > > Would you please tell us about the "madness" yogas and what we can > do > > about them. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julli > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > wrote: > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > > > > > Relax. I'm suprised you waited so long before freaking out, even > > though i've > > > seen your chart quite a few times. > > > > > > Heres what i should warn you about. The Ketu+Saturn yoga is going > > to cause a > > > problem at the time of your mothers demise. It will obstruct you > > from > > > performing the last rites, and this requires propitiation, or at > the > > > appropriate time some extra bali is required. > > > > > > This is further indicating that some jealousy would be heading > your > > way as > > > dristi badhaka is being formed, but Sasa mahapurusha yoga, you are > > > protected. > > > > > > Mars is debilitated in the seventh with Rahu indicating Kuja- > > Sthambana and > > > with Mars opposite it, indicating serious relationship trouble > and a > > > situation close to madness, which you have already experienced. > > > > > > The final Pisacha badhaka yoga would also function during the > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this boils down to two types of events which could be > occuring. > > 1) > > > someone should have died recently. 2) you have got into a new > > relationship. > > > > > > If neither of the two have happened, you are fine. Btw. You are > > running > > > Rahu-Venus, not Rahu-Ketu. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > http://srigaruda.com > > <http://srigaruda.com/> & > > <http://astrovisti.com <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > > http://astrovisti.com <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of java_sgt > > > 19 May 2005 06:25 > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Vistiji, > > > I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD > > lectures > > > on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my > chart > > > I got a panic attack. > > > > > > This is why. > > > 1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra-Ke in > > > axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 > > > malefics in 3 kendras. > > > 2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting > > Sa , > > > while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by > Ra. > > > 3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was > > mentioning > > > the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will > get > > > tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and results > > > are in line. > > > > > > I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite > low > > > and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!! > > > > > > Regards > > > Soumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > > that the > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Links > > > > > > * > > > / > > > > > > * > > > > > > <? > > subject=Un> > > > > > > * > > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > soumit guha > > java_sgt > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * > > / > > > > * > > > > <? > subject=Un> > > > > * > > <> Terms of Service. 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Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Bharat, Namaskar A person being out of bounds is a type of madness, and is caused by malefics influencing the lagna and/or seventh houses. But this may not be a disease unless confirmed from other points in the chart. It all depends on how much control the native has over this. Basically a disturbance to the prana causes madness, which sometimes makes the person excessively angry, sad, or makes the person obsessive. How much is the question. When more malefics are involved, they may not necessarily cause a yoga for madness, unless these malefics are inimical towards each other. Hence the reason i layed weight on Saturn and Mars yogas. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Web: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> & http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of bharateiya 21 May 2005 10:26 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka 12.0pt"> 10.0pt">Namaskaar Julli and other members, The borderline personality disorder has a way of tranferring on to others, only when, they try to manage those who have it. I have recently started collecting birth details of people having various psychaitric disorders. I am sure you will realize how difficult is to get such data. I would request you all to kindly send me the data of such cases. I would be highly obliged. Sri Visti, just a small question: "Would bad manners constitute the normally accepted behaviour of a person". For this is how most people define a "mad" person - that he/she is out of bounds. or else define abnormality or normality. Thanks and Regards Bharat , "sattvasomma" <julli@b...> wrote: > Dear Visti, > > This is brilliant - I especially love your comment about whether one > has a mental illness or merely bad manners! > > I have retrograde Mars in 4 and AK Saturn in 10. My mother probably > has "borderline personality" disorder (my mother-in-law is no treat > either). She "acted-out" many of her problems on me growing up > culminating in ejecting me from the family when I got married. My > mother-in-law wasn't much better. > > My thought is that since this is, after all, my chart, I must also > have this sickness too. I certainly have little inner peace if I > don't stay vigilent and stop my mind when it starts thinking bad > thoughts. Mantras help fill the void. In my D30, Jupiter is in my > Sag Lagna which must explain what sanity I have. > > Blessings to all, > > Julli > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > > > These yogas are taken from jataka tattva. Thats a great reference > for any > > types of ailments or illnesses. I use it alot myself. But i must > say that > > one cannot take these yogas on face value. > > > > You will notice that a few of the yogas talk about Mars in the > seventh > > house. As you know this is marana karaka sthana and can indicate > serious > > problems to the nerves (majja dhatu is mars and indicates nerves and > > marrow). Also the seventh house shows you ability to discriminate, > as it > > indicates the people you interact with (the door to the world), > hence an ill > > placed Mars here is detrimental towards this. > > > > > > > > If birth is during the day, then surely the problems is there, but > during > > the night this is heavily minimized and can instead cause show up > as serious > > bouts of anger. Similarly if Mars is in the Lagna or fifth house, > the native > > will have a tendency towards fierce anger, but again this is cooled > down in > > case of night birth. > > > > > > > > The planet in Lagna whilst Mars is in the seventh/dusthana is also > > important. Sun and/or Jupiter in the lagna will never destroy the > > intelligence, but can make the person do something big or great > after a bout > > of anger (bordering madness)... Again Mars must be in the seventh > for this > > to be complete. > > > > > > > > Saturn in the lagna and Mars in the seventh is surely going to > damage the > > head/intelligence along with the native's ability to discriminate, > due to > > disease or illness. Here Saturn when well placed averts the same, > and makes > > the person very strong mentally after having experienced a situation > > bordering madness. > > > > > > > > Having mentioned lots of slow-moving planets, i'm sure some people > are going > > to jump from their seats (in madness) proclaiming that they are > perfectly > > sane. Thats right, you are sane, and the final determinor is the > trimsamsa > > (d30) to show whether you merely have bad manners or actually have > a mental > > illness. > > > > From the Rasi we can get a strong indication as to how the native's > pranas > > are moving, and as a result of this the native will show their > saumya/krura > > attitude which can at times be very unbalanced due to the ammount > of krura > > grahas involved. > > > > > > > > This is just one facet of madness, more facets are involving the > fifth > > house, the moon, the fourth house, etc. Clinical madness should > however be > > seen from the first, fifth and seventh houses. You can include the > fourth > > house for cases of clinical depression, whilst the Moon alone > cannot show > > real madness, but just a problem in ones interaction with ones > community > > which can be solved with the worship of the mother (kalike (saturn), > > durgatinashinyai (rahu) or chandike (mars)). > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of Soumit Guha > > 20 May 2005 15:37 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > > > > > Dear Julli, > > > > This site lists 51 combinations that are not good for > the mental > > health. > > > > http://www.vedic astrology.net/mental%20dearrangements%20main.htm > > > > After spotting the right variety of insanity, one will have to go > beg the > > guru for a remedy, suitable to the chart. > > > > In my case I have a #4, but since I am still running loose, I guess > mine is > > on the lower end of the spectrum, or that it is on the way. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Regards > > > > Soumit > > > > > > sattvasomma <julli@b...> wrote: > > > > Hare Visti, Soumit, and Group, > > > > Would you please tell us about the "madness" yogas and what we can > do > > about them. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julli > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > wrote: > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > > > > > Relax. I'm suprised you waited so long before freaking out, even > > though i've > > > seen your chart quite a few times. > > > > > > Heres what i should warn you about. The Ketu+Saturn yoga is going > > to cause a > > > problem at the time of your mothers demise. It will obstruct you > > from > > > performing the last rites, and this requires propitiation, or at > the > > > appropriate time some extra bali is required. > > > > > > This is further indicating that some jealousy would be heading > your > > way as > > > dristi badhaka is being formed, but Sasa mahapurusha yoga, you are > > > protected. > > > > > > Mars is debilitated in the seventh with Rahu indicating Kuja- > > Sthambana and > > > with Mars opposite it, indicating serious relationship trouble > and a > > > situation close to madness, which you have already experienced. > > > > > > The final Pisacha badhaka yoga would also function during the > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this boils down to two types of events which could be > occuring. > > 1) > > > someone should have died recently. 2) you have got into a new > > relationship. > > > > > > If neither of the two have happened, you are fine. Btw. You are > > running > > > Rahu-Venus, not Rahu-Ketu. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > http://srigaruda.com > > <http://srigaruda.com/> & > > <http://astrovisti.com <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > > http://astrovisti.com <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of java_sgt > > > 19 May 2005 06:25 > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Vistiji, > > > I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD > > lectures > > > on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my > chart > > > I got a panic attack. > > > > > > This is why. > > > 1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra-Ke in > > > axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 > > > malefics in 3 kendras. > > > 2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting > > Sa , > > > while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by > Ra. > > > 3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was > > mentioning > > > the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will > get > > > tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and results > > > are in line. > > > > > > I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite > low > > > and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!! > > > > > > Regards > > > Soumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > > that the > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Links > > > > > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > > > / > > > > > > * To from this group, send an email to: > > > > > > <? > > subject=Un> > > > > > > * > > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > soumit guha > > java_sgt > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > > / > > > > * To from this group, send an email to: > > > > <? > subject=Un> > > > > * Your use of is subject to the > > <> Terms of Service. ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Visti, Thanks for reminding me to watch the D12 - sometimes I loose my way. My D12 has Mars and Rahu in Leo Lagna with Saturn and Venus in 3rd. Mars ruling both mother and father, conjoining Rahu in Leo sums up my parents nicely. Work has always been a problem since I always have angry, screaming bosses: Mars in 7th from 10th in rasi and D10 Mars in 9th. Thanks again for my Ishta Devata mantra - I hope you can't wear them out. Blessings, Julli , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Julli, Namaskar > > Normally if our parents are 'bonkers', it shows up in the D12. But when it > shows up in the D1, it means we have really taken on alot of these problems > on ourselves. Here its along the fourth and tenth houses, and has affected > your state of happiness. Other than that you are fine, and mantras are the > key to this. Your attitude towards your work can be abit problematic, and > the mantras are definitely required to put you in the right direction. > > The Ishta Devata is the way. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > [] On > Behalf Of sattvasomma > 21 May 2005 03:01 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > Dear Visti, > > This is brilliant - I especially love your comment about whether one > has a mental illness or merely bad manners! > > I have retrograde Mars in 4 and AK Saturn in 10. My mother probably > has "borderline personality" disorder (my mother-in-law is no treat > either). She "acted-out" many of her problems on me growing up > culminating in ejecting me from the family when I got married. My > mother-in-law wasn't much better. > > My thought is that since this is, after all, my chart, I must also > have this sickness too. I certainly have little inner peace if I > don't stay vigilent and stop my mind when it starts thinking bad > thoughts. Mantras help fill the void. In my D30, Jupiter is in my > Sag Lagna which must explain what sanity I have. > > Blessings to all, > > Julli > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > > > These yogas are taken from jataka tattva. Thats a great reference > for any > > types of ailments or illnesses. I use it alot myself. But i must > say that > > one cannot take these yogas on face value. > > > > You will notice that a few of the yogas talk about Mars in the > seventh > > house. As you know this is marana karaka sthana and can indicate > serious > > problems to the nerves (majja dhatu is mars and indicates nerves and > > marrow). Also the seventh house shows you ability to discriminate, > as it > > indicates the people you interact with (the door to the world), > hence an ill > > placed Mars here is detrimental towards this. > > > > > > > > If birth is during the day, then surely the problems is there, but > during > > the night this is heavily minimized and can instead cause show up > as serious > > bouts of anger. Similarly if Mars is in the Lagna or fifth house, > the native > > will have a tendency towards fierce anger, but again this is cooled > down in > > case of night birth. > > > > > > > > The planet in Lagna whilst Mars is in the seventh/dusthana is also > > important. Sun and/or Jupiter in the lagna will never destroy the > > intelligence, but can make the person do something big or great > after a bout > > of anger (bordering madness)... Again Mars must be in the seventh > for this > > to be complete. > > > > > > > > Saturn in the lagna and Mars in the seventh is surely going to > damage the > > head/intelligence along with the native's ability to discriminate, > due to > > disease or illness. Here Saturn when well placed averts the same, > and makes > > the person very strong mentally after having experienced a situation > > bordering madness. > > > > > > > > Having mentioned lots of slow-moving planets, i'm sure some people > are going > > to jump from their seats (in madness) proclaiming that they are > perfectly > > sane. Thats right, you are sane, and the final determinor is the > trimsamsa > > (d30) to show whether you merely have bad manners or actually have > a mental > > illness. > > > > From the Rasi we can get a strong indication as to how the native's > pranas > > are moving, and as a result of this the native will show their > saumya/krura > > attitude which can at times be very unbalanced due to the ammount > of krura > > grahas involved. > > > > > > > > This is just one facet of madness, more facets are involving the > fifth > > house, the moon, the fourth house, etc. Clinical madness should > however be > > seen from the first, fifth and seventh houses. You can include the > fourth > > house for cases of clinical depression, whilst the Moon alone > cannot show > > real madness, but just a problem in ones interaction with ones > community > > which can be solved with the worship of the mother (kalike (saturn), > > durgatinashinyai (rahu) or chandike (mars)). > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of Soumit Guha > > 20 May 2005 15:37 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > > > > > Dear Julli, > > > > This site lists 51 combinations that are not good for > the mental > > health. > > > > http://www.vedic astrology.net/mental%20dearrangements%20main.htm > > > > After spotting the right variety of insanity, one will have to go > beg the > > guru for a remedy, suitable to the chart. > > > > In my case I have a #4, but since I am still running loose, I guess > mine is > > on the lower end of the spectrum, or that it is on the way. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Regards > > > > Soumit > > > > > > sattvasomma <julli@b...> wrote: > > > > Hare Visti, Soumit, and Group, > > > > Would you please tell us about the "madness" yogas and what we can > do > > about them. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julli > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > wrote: > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > > > > > Relax. I'm suprised you waited so long before freaking out, even > > though i've > > > seen your chart quite a few times. > > > > > > Heres what i should warn you about. The Ketu+Saturn yoga is going > > to cause a > > > problem at the time of your mothers demise. It will obstruct you > > from > > > performing the last rites, and this requires propitiation, or at > the > > > appropriate time some extra bali is required. > > > > > > This is further indicating that some jealousy would be heading > your > > way as > > > dristi badhaka is being formed, but Sasa mahapurusha yoga, you are > > > protected. > > > > > > Mars is debilitated in the seventh with Rahu indicating Kuja- > > Sthambana and > > > with Mars opposite it, indicating serious relationship trouble > and a > > > situation close to madness, which you have already experienced. > > > > > > The final Pisacha badhaka yoga would also function during the > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this boils down to two types of events which could be > occuring. > > 1) > > > someone should have died recently. 2) you have got into a new > > relationship. > > > > > > If neither of the two have happened, you are fine. Btw. You are > > running > > > Rahu-Venus, not Rahu-Ketu. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > http://srigaruda.com > > <http://srigaruda.com/> & > > <http://astrovisti.com <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > > http://astrovisti.com <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of java_sgt > > > 19 May 2005 06:25 > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Vistiji, > > > I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD > > lectures > > > on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my > chart > > > I got a panic attack. > > > > > > This is why. > > > 1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra-Ke in > > > axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 > > > malefics in 3 kendras. > > > 2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting > > Sa , > > > while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by > Ra. > > > 3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was > > mentioning > > > the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will > get > > > tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and results > > > are in line. > > > > > > I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite > low > > > and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!! > > > > > > Regards > > > Soumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > > that the > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Links > > > > > > * > > > / > > > > > > * > > > > > > <? > > subject=Un> > > > > > > * > > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > soumit guha > > java_sgt > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * > > / > > > > * > > > > <? > subject=Un> > > > > * > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > _____ > > Links > > * > / > > * > > <? subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. 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Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 I am new to this group. What are D12 and D10. Thanks Sureshsattvasomma <julli (AT) blazenetme (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Visti,Thanks for reminding me to watch the D12 - sometimes I loose my way. My D12 has Mars and Rahu in Leo Lagna with Saturn and Venus in 3rd. Mars ruling both mother and father, conjoining Rahu in Leo sums up my parents nicely. Work has always been a problem since I always have angry, screaming bosses: Mars in 7th from 10th in rasi and D10 Mars in 9th. Thanks again for my Ishta Devata mantra - I hope you can't wear them out.Blessings,Julli--- In , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Julli, Namaskar> > Normally if our parents are 'bonkers', it shows up in the D12. But when it> shows up in the D1, it means we have really taken on alot of these problems> on ourselves. Here its along the fourth and tenth houses, and has affected> your state of happiness. Other than that you are fine, and mantras are the> key to this. Your attitude towards your work can be abit problematic, and> the mantras are definitely required to put you in the right direction.> > The Ishta Devata is the way.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...> > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> http://astrovisti.com> > ***> > _____ > > [] On> Behalf Of sattvasomma> 21 May 2005 03:01> To: > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka> > > > Dear Visti,> > This is brilliant - I especially love your comment about whether one > has a mental illness or merely bad manners!> > I have retrograde Mars in 4 and AK Saturn in 10. My mother probably > has "borderline personality" disorder (my mother-in-law is no treat > either). She "acted-out" many of her problems on me growing up > culminating in ejecting me from the family when I got married. My > mother-in-law wasn't much better.> > My thought is that since this is, after all, my chart, I must also > have this sickness too. I certainly have little inner peace if I > don't stay vigilent and stop my mind when it starts thinking bad > thoughts. Mantras help fill the void. In my D30, Jupiter is in my > Sag Lagna which must explain what sanity I have.> > Blessings to all,> > Julli> > > > > > --- In , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote:> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar> > > > These yogas are taken from jataka tattva. Thats a great reference > for any> > types of ailments or illnesses. I use it alot myself. But i must > say that> > one cannot take these yogas on face value.> > > > You will notice that a few of the yogas talk about Mars in the > seventh> > house. As you know this is marana karaka sthana and can indicate > serious> > problems to the nerves (majja dhatu is mars and indicates nerves and> > marrow). Also the seventh house shows you ability to discriminate, > as it> > indicates the people you interact with (the door to the world), > hence an ill> > placed Mars here is detrimental towards this.> > > > > > > > If birth is during the day, then surely the problems is there, but > during> > the night this is heavily minimized and can instead cause show up > as serious> > bouts of anger. Similarly if Mars is in the Lagna or fifth house, > the native> > will have a tendency towards fierce anger, but again this is cooled > down in> > case of night birth.> > > > > > > > The planet in Lagna whilst Mars is in the seventh/dusthana is also> > important. Sun and/or Jupiter in the lagna will never destroy the> > intelligence, but can make the person do something big or great > after a bout> > of anger (bordering madness)... Again Mars must be in the seventh > for this> > to be complete.> > > > > > > > Saturn in the lagna and Mars in the seventh is surely going to > damage the> > head/intelligence along with the native's ability to discriminate, > due to> > disease or illness. Here Saturn when well placed averts the same, > and makes> > the person very strong mentally after having experienced a situation> > bordering madness.> > > > > > > > Having mentioned lots of slow-moving planets, i'm sure some people > are going> > to jump from their seats (in madness) proclaiming that they are > perfectly> > sane. Thats right, you are sane, and the final determinor is the > trimsamsa> > (d30) to show whether you merely have bad manners or actually have > a mental> > illness.> > > > From the Rasi we can get a strong indication as to how the native's > pranas> > are moving, and as a result of this the native will show their > saumya/krura> > attitude which can at times be very unbalanced due to the ammount > of krura> > grahas involved.> > > > > > > > This is just one facet of madness, more facets are involving the > fifth> > house, the moon, the fourth house, etc. Clinical madness should > however be> > seen from the first, fifth and seventh houses. You can include the > fourth> > house for cases of clinical depression, whilst the Moon alone > cannot show> > real madness, but just a problem in ones interaction with ones > community> > which can be solved with the worship of the mother (kalike (saturn),> > durgatinashinyai (rahu) or chandike (mars)).> > > > Best wishes,> > > > ***> > > > Visti Larsen> > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...> > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> > http://astrovisti.com> > > > ***> > > > _____ > > > > > [] On> > Behalf Of Soumit Guha> > 20 May 2005 15:37> > To: > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka> > > > > > > > Dear Julli,> > > > This site lists 51 combinations that are not good for > the mental> > health.> > > > http://www.vedic astrology.net/mental%20dearrangements%20main.htm > > > > After spotting the right variety of insanity, one will have to go > beg the> > guru for a remedy, suitable to the chart.> > > > In my case I have a #4, but since I am still running loose, I guess > mine is> > on the lower end of the spectrum, or that it is on the way.> > > > Hope this helps> > > > Regards> > > > Soumit> > > > > > sattvasomma <julli@b...> wrote:> > > > Hare Visti, Soumit, and Group,> > > > Would you please tell us about the "madness" yogas and what we can > do > > about them.> > > > Thanks,> > > > Julli> > > > > > --- In , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > wrote:> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar> > > > > > Relax. I'm suprised you waited so long before freaking out, even > > though i've> > > seen your chart quite a few times.> > > > > > Heres what i should warn you about. The Ketu+Saturn yoga is going > > to cause a> > > problem at the time of your mothers demise. It will obstruct you > > from> > > performing the last rites, and this requires propitiation, or at > the> > > appropriate time some extra bali is required. > > > > > > This is further indicating that some jealousy would be heading > your > > way as> > > dristi badhaka is being formed, but Sasa mahapurusha yoga, you are> > > protected.> > > > > > Mars is debilitated in the seventh with Rahu indicating Kuja-> > Sthambana and> > > with Mars opposite it, indicating serious relationship trouble > and a> > > situation close to madness, which you have already experienced.> > > > > > The final Pisacha badhaka yoga would also function during the > > relationships.> > > > > > > > > > > > Now this boils down to two types of events which could be > occuring. > > 1)> > > someone should have died recently. 2) you have got into a new > > relationship.> > > > > > If neither of the two have happened, you are fine. Btw. You are > > running> > > Rahu-Venus, not Rahu-Ketu.> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > ***> > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...> > > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > http://srigaruda.com> > <http://srigaruda.com/> & > > <http://astrovisti.com <http://astrovisti.com/> >> > > http://astrovisti.com <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > > > > ***> > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > [] On> > > Behalf Of java_sgt> > > 19 May 2005 06:25> > > To: > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Vistiji,> > > I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD > > lectures > > > on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my > chart > > > I got a panic attack. > > > > > > This is why.> > > 1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra-Ke in > > > axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 > > > malefics in 3 kendras.> > > 2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting > > Sa , > > > while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by > Ra.> > > 3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was > > mentioning > > > the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will > get > > > tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and results > > > are in line. > > > > > > I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite > low > > > and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!!> > > > > > Regards> > > Soumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > > that the> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Links> > > > > > * > > > /> > > > > > * > > > > > > <?> > subject=Un> > > > > > > * > > > <> Terms of Service.> > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > soumit guha> > java_sgt > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links> > > > * To visit your group on the web, go to:> > /> > > > * > > > > <?> subject=Un> > > > > * > > <> Terms of Service.> > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > _____ > > Links> > * > /> > * To from this group, send an email to:> > <?subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service.~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Suresh, There are so many study material in this ( and vedic astrology) first read them, read the articles in www.srath.com www.srigaruda.com and read the book by PArasara (BPHS) and then look in to these groups to learn and test your knowledge.. Hope this helps you. Anendd --- "K.R.Suresh" <krsuresh wrote: > Dear Julli, > > I am new to this group. What are D12 and D10. > > Thanks > > Suresh > > sattvasomma <julli wrote: > Dear Visti, > > Thanks for reminding me to watch the D12 - sometimes > I loose my way. > My D12 has Mars and Rahu in Leo Lagna with Saturn > and Venus in 3rd. > Mars ruling both mother and father, conjoining Rahu > in Leo sums up my > parents nicely. > > Work has always been a problem since I always have > angry, > screaming bosses: Mars in 7th from 10th in rasi and > D10 Mars in 9th. > > Thanks again for my Ishta Devata mantra - I hope you > can't wear them > out. > > Blessings, > > Julli > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" > <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Julli, Namaskar > > > > Normally if our parents are 'bonkers', it shows up > in the D12. But > when it > > shows up in the D1, it means we have really taken > on alot of these > problems > > on ourselves. Here its along the fourth and tenth > houses, and has > affected > > your state of happiness. Other than that you are > fine, and mantras > are the > > key to this. Your attitude towards your work can > be abit > problematic, and > > the mantras are definitely required to put you in > the right > direction. > > > > The Ishta Devata is the way. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > & > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of sattvasomma > > 21 May 2005 03:01 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about > Badhaka > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > This is brilliant - I especially love your comment > about whether > one > > has a mental illness or merely bad manners! > > > > I have retrograde Mars in 4 and AK Saturn in 10. > My mother > probably > > has "borderline personality" disorder (my > mother-in-law is no treat > > either). She "acted-out" many of her problems on > me growing up > > culminating in ejecting me from the family when I > got married. My > > mother-in-law wasn't much better. > > > > My thought is that since this is, after all, my > chart, I must also > > have this sickness too. I certainly have little > inner peace if I > > don't stay vigilent and stop my mind when it > starts thinking bad > > thoughts. Mantras help fill the void. In my D30, > Jupiter is in my > > Sag Lagna which must explain what sanity I have. > > > > Blessings to all, > > > > Julli > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Visti > Larsen" <visti@s...> > > wrote: > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > > > > > These yogas are taken from jataka tattva. Thats > a great reference > > for any > > > types of ailments or illnesses. I use it alot > myself. But i must > > say that > > > one cannot take these yogas on face value. > > > > > > You will notice that a few of the yogas talk > about Mars in the > > seventh > > > house. As you know this is marana karaka sthana > and can indicate > > serious > > > problems to the nerves (majja dhatu is mars and > indicates nerves > and > > > marrow). Also the seventh house shows you > ability to > discriminate, > > as it > > > indicates the people you interact with (the door > to the world), > > hence an ill > > > placed Mars here is detrimental towards this. > > > > > > > > > > > > If birth is during the day, then surely the > problems is there, > but > > during > > > the night this is heavily minimized and can > instead cause show up > > as serious > > > bouts of anger. Similarly if Mars is in the > Lagna or fifth house, > > the native > > > will have a tendency towards fierce anger, but > again this is > cooled > > down in > > > case of night birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > The planet in Lagna whilst Mars is in the > seventh/dusthana is also > > > important. Sun and/or Jupiter in the lagna will > never destroy the > > > intelligence, but can make the person do > something big or great > > after a bout > > > of anger (bordering madness)... Again Mars must > be in the seventh > > for this > > > to be complete. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn in the lagna and Mars in the seventh is > surely going to > > damage the > > > head/intelligence along with the native's > ability to > discriminate, > > due to > > > disease or illness. Here Saturn when well placed > averts === message truncated === The only thing that stands between a man and what he wants from life is often merely the will to try it and the faith to believe that it is possible. http://www.itworksww.com password: guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Dear Suresh, The "D" charts refer to the "divisional" charts. D12 is the Dwadasamsa (12th division-lineage), D10 is the Dasamsa (10th division- career). Another excellent book for study is Narasimha Rao's "Vedic Astrolog, An Integrated Approach" - excellent for beginners. Good luck with your studies, Julli , "K.R.Suresh" <krsuresh> wrote: > Dear Julli, > > I am new to this group. What are D12 and D10. > > Thanks > > Suresh > > sattvasomma <julli@b...> wrote: > Dear Visti, > > Thanks for reminding me to watch the D12 - sometimes I loose my way. > My D12 has Mars and Rahu in Leo Lagna with Saturn and Venus in 3rd. > Mars ruling both mother and father, conjoining Rahu in Leo sums up my > parents nicely. > > Work has always been a problem since I always have angry, > screaming bosses: Mars in 7th from 10th in rasi and D10 Mars in 9th. > > Thanks again for my Ishta Devata mantra - I hope you can't wear them > out. > > Blessings, > > Julli > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Julli, Namaskar > > > > Normally if our parents are 'bonkers', it shows up in the D12. But > when it > > shows up in the D1, it means we have really taken on alot of these > problems > > on ourselves. Here its along the fourth and tenth houses, and has > affected > > your state of happiness. Other than that you are fine, and mantras > are the > > key to this. Your attitude towards your work can be abit > problematic, and > > the mantras are definitely required to put you in the right > direction. > > > > The Ishta Devata is the way. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of sattvasomma > > 21 May 2005 03:01 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > This is brilliant - I especially love your comment about whether > one > > has a mental illness or merely bad manners! > > > > I have retrograde Mars in 4 and AK Saturn in 10. My mother > probably > > has "borderline personality" disorder (my mother-in-law is no treat > > either). She "acted-out" many of her problems on me growing up > > culminating in ejecting me from the family when I got married. My > > mother-in-law wasn't much better. > > > > My thought is that since this is, after all, my chart, I must also > > have this sickness too. I certainly have little inner peace if I > > don't stay vigilent and stop my mind when it starts thinking bad > > thoughts. Mantras help fill the void. In my D30, Jupiter is in my > > Sag Lagna which must explain what sanity I have. > > > > Blessings to all, > > > > Julli > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > wrote: > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > > > > > These yogas are taken from jataka tattva. Thats a great reference > > for any > > > types of ailments or illnesses. I use it alot myself. But i must > > say that > > > one cannot take these yogas on face value. > > > > > > You will notice that a few of the yogas talk about Mars in the > > seventh > > > house. As you know this is marana karaka sthana and can indicate > > serious > > > problems to the nerves (majja dhatu is mars and indicates nerves > and > > > marrow). Also the seventh house shows you ability to > discriminate, > > as it > > > indicates the people you interact with (the door to the world), > > hence an ill > > > placed Mars here is detrimental towards this. > > > > > > > > > > > > If birth is during the day, then surely the problems is there, > but > > during > > > the night this is heavily minimized and can instead cause show up > > as serious > > > bouts of anger. Similarly if Mars is in the Lagna or fifth house, > > the native > > > will have a tendency towards fierce anger, but again this is > cooled > > down in > > > case of night birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > The planet in Lagna whilst Mars is in the seventh/dusthana is also > > > important. Sun and/or Jupiter in the lagna will never destroy the > > > intelligence, but can make the person do something big or great > > after a bout > > > of anger (bordering madness)... Again Mars must be in the seventh > > for this > > > to be complete. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn in the lagna and Mars in the seventh is surely going to > > damage the > > > head/intelligence along with the native's ability to > discriminate, > > due to > > > disease or illness. Here Saturn when well placed averts the same, > > and makes > > > the person very strong mentally after having experienced a > situation > > > bordering madness. > > > > > > > > > > > > Having mentioned lots of slow-moving planets, i'm sure some > people > > are going > > > to jump from their seats (in madness) proclaiming that they are > > perfectly > > > sane. Thats right, you are sane, and the final determinor is the > > trimsamsa > > > (d30) to show whether you merely have bad manners or actually > have > > a mental > > > illness. > > > > > > From the Rasi we can get a strong indication as to how the > native's > > pranas > > > are moving, and as a result of this the native will show their > > saumya/krura > > > attitude which can at times be very unbalanced due to the ammount > > of krura > > > grahas involved. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is just one facet of madness, more facets are involving the > > fifth > > > house, the moon, the fourth house, etc. Clinical madness should > > however be > > > seen from the first, fifth and seventh houses. You can include > the > > fourth > > > house for cases of clinical depression, whilst the Moon alone > > cannot show > > > real madness, but just a problem in ones interaction with ones > > community > > > which can be solved with the worship of the mother (kalike > (saturn), > > > durgatinashinyai (rahu) or chandike (mars)). > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > [] On > > > Behalf Of Soumit Guha > > > 20 May 2005 15:37 > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Julli, > > > > > > This site lists 51 combinations that are not good for > > the mental > > > health. > > > > > > http://www.vedic astrology.net/mental%20dearrangements% 20main.htm > > > > > > After spotting the right variety of insanity, one will have to go > > beg the > > > guru for a remedy, suitable to the chart. > > > > > > In my case I have a #4, but since I am still running loose, I > guess > > mine is > > > on the lower end of the spectrum, or that it is on the way. > > > > > > Hope this helps > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Soumit > > > > > > > > > sattvasomma <julli@b...> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Visti, Soumit, and Group, > > > > > > Would you please tell us about the "madness" yogas and what we > can > > do > > > about them. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Julli > > > > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > > > wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Soumit, Namaskar > > > > > > > > Relax. I'm suprised you waited so long before freaking out, > even > > > though i've > > > > seen your chart quite a few times. > > > > > > > > Heres what i should warn you about. The Ketu+Saturn yoga is > going > > > to cause a > > > > problem at the time of your mothers demise. It will obstruct > you > > > from > > > > performing the last rites, and this requires propitiation, or > at > > the > > > > appropriate time some extra bali is required. > > > > > > > > This is further indicating that some jealousy would be heading > > your > > > way as > > > > dristi badhaka is being formed, but Sasa mahapurusha yoga, you > are > > > > protected. > > > > > > > > Mars is debilitated in the seventh with Rahu indicating Kuja- > > > Sthambana and > > > > with Mars opposite it, indicating serious relationship trouble > > and a > > > > situation close to madness, which you have already experienced. > > > > > > > > The final Pisacha badhaka yoga would also function during the > > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this boils down to two types of events which could be > > occuring. > > > 1) > > > > someone should have died recently. 2) you have got into a new > > > relationship. > > > > > > > > If neither of the two have happened, you are fine. Btw. You are > > > running > > > > Rahu-Venus, not Rahu-Ketu. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > http://srigaruda.com > > > <http://srigaruda.com/> & > > > <http://astrovisti.com <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > > > http://astrovisti.com <http://astrovisti.com/> > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > [] On > > > > Behalf Of java_sgt > > > > 19 May 2005 06:25 > > > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Question about Badhaka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Vistiji, > > > > I was following your 2003 West Coast Conf CD > > > lectures > > > > on the subject mentioned above, and while applying them to my > > chart > > > > I got a panic attack. > > > > > > > > This is why. > > > > 1. The case study of the woman with capricorn lagna, and Ra- Ke > in > > > > axis and Sarpa yoga nearly matches mine. I have a total of 5 > > > > malefics in 3 kendras. > > > > 2. One badhaka Ke is sitting square in lagna totally afflicting > > > Sa , > > > > while the other one Ma is in debility and getting pounded on by > > Ra. > > > > 3. During the lecture Pdt. Sanjayji had chimed in and was > > > mentioning > > > > the antardasha which is 7th from the maha dasha, the going will > > get > > > > tough. I am currently running a Ra-Ke badhakesh dasha and > results > > > > are in line. > > > > > > > > I was seeking a proactive remedy, because I am already at quite > > low > > > > and cannot afford to lose any more altitude. Help!! > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Soumit (Oct 24, 1962, 13:37 N Delhi) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who > said > > > that the > > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > * > > > > / > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > <? > > > subject=Un> > > > > > > > > * > > > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > > that the > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > soumit guha > > > java_sgt > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > > that the > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Links > > > > > > * > > > / > > > > > > * > > > > > > <? > > subject=Un> > > > > > > * > > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > > > * > > / > > > > * > > > > <? > subject=Un> > > > > * > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. 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